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Re: AMERICANS: You Need Not Lick the Boots that Kick You!!!

Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:36:28 -0700

The Commentator (guess@whocares.net) wrote:

Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)" (vgorilla@pobox.alaska.net) wrote:

Raymond Karczewski (arkent@arkenterprises.com) wrote:

NOTE TO COMMENTATOR AND ALL OTHER IGNORANT AFAB BULLY/SKEPTICULTIST DISINFORMATION AGENTS:

rk:>> Notwithstanding your repetitious mining for information in order to allay your fears and the fears of the other cowardly DISINFORMATION AGENTS who have put their financial future in jeopardy via this Common Law Copyright issue, the item(s) conspicuously missing in your/their posts which would assure you all of receiving the answers you/they desire to your questions is the absence of your/their TRUE IDENTITY affixed to your articles.

c: > Cite the law that allows this copyright.

rk: May I draw public attention to commentator's avoidance of dealing with the identity issue while asking a question that would be answered if only he were to step out of the shadows and identify himself.

rk: If the people of America wanted to observe the actions of the real enemy of our country, responsible for the erosion of our freedom here in America, they need go no further than to observe the comments of commentator and vanilla gorilla in this post.

rk: May I suggest the serious reader check out the contributions of commentator and vanilla gorilla to these Internet Newsgroups via the Google archives. Pick any at random. You will better understand the mission of misdirecting GOVERNMENT/MEDIA, SPONSORED/SUPPORTED DISINFORMATION AGENTS as they ply their deceptive trade on these newsgroups/forums.

rk: In a moment of rare candor, vanilla gorilla tells you outright what he is and the purpose he serves on the internet. It takes a nation of inert ignoramuses to sit by while a mind controller tells you to your face what he is doing to you and yet you remain immobilized, entranced, paralyzed, unable to take action even while your country deteriorates before your very eyes. How did America get that way? A clue is found in vanilla gorilla's comment below.

vg: >>> This is called "oligarchy", or "rule by the elite". It's supposed to be this way, and I am fully in favor of it. People like me rulepeople like you, because we are morally, mentally, and physically superior, to you. Frankly, we couldn't care less, whether you or anyone else are aware of it, as you are far too impotent to be able to do anything about it.

vg: >>> Ever wonder why almost five years of your plaintive wailing have had NO effect, whatsoever? Well, wonder no more, Fat Boy. We know. You know. We know that YOU know, and now, you know that WE know. We just don't give a shit. Your poor, minuscule intellect cannot even comprehend its own insignificance. It's the old "mind over matter" problem, we don't mind, and you don't matter.

vg: >>> It's like this: If you were good enough, you'd be in charge now.

vg: >>> It's so simple, even you should have been able to figure it out, before now, but you haven't.

-- V.G.

rk: There you have it, America. Now do you understand why you are losing your country? Do you understand that it has been going on right under your noses, yet you lacked the awareness to grasp the significance of it? That's the nature of human ignorance which has allowed the few to rule the many since the earliest of civilizations. That is nature of Satanic Power which has brought this nation to the brink of destruction.

rk: The enemy operating out of the shadows, slinks amongst you, whispering, suggesting, pandering to your baser emotions. They are the anonymous, faceless rabble-rousers always found on the scene working the crowd into a mob. Has anybody really paid attention to what they really have to say -- what they really have to contribute? Now's your chance to see what was hidden to you earlier.

rk: Read the circular mindless drivel proffered by commentator as he continues to hunker down in the shadows of anonymity unable to stand his full length as an integral man willing to back up his words and actions with his true identity.

rk: Without the protection of anonymity, DISINFORMATION AGENTS could not continue to ply their trade. After all, accountability and deception just don't mix. Yet in this BASSACKWARD civilized world of ours, anonymity on the Internet is prized. Why? Because corrupted, mind controlled intellects are trained to live in constant fear and confusion.

rk: Observe the rest of commentator's and vanilla gorilla's comments in this post. They do tell their story, do they not?

c: > Of course you can not, because no such law exists, and all the bluster, hot air, wankage and trollage that you can muster will not change that fact.

c: > The only party showing fear is you, with your repeatd inability to rie to the simple challenge of citing the law you claim supports your copyright of your name.

rk: >> Until you can screw up enough courage to stand up and act like a man and back up your words with the integrity expected of any being called a *man,* all that a hypocrite such as yourself deserves is to observe your own IGNORANCE exposed as it is mirrored back to you.

rk: >> The solution to your problem is rather simple, is it not? IDENTIFY YOURSELF and you and I can get off this verbal merry-go-round which you insist upon adhering to.

c: > Yup, it is simple, all you have to do is answer a few simple questions, but you can't do that, so you continue to try to cover your lack of substance with yet more hot air.

c: > All you have to do is cite the law that allows your allegd copyright. No big deal, but if you could do such a thing, you would. Since you have not managed to answer even the most basic questions regarding your legal claim, it is strong evidence that it is nonsense.

rk: > As they say, Commentator, TALK IS CHEAP.

c: > Yup, it is cheap, which is the only way you have managed to afford to spew your bullshit for so many years.

c: > Hopefully in your next life you will get a functioning brain, and a soul that is not filled with hate and venom.

c: > Oh yes, pay the fines, you cheap shit.

c: > Hell, isn't it? You are exposed as a loon, a kook and a twit. How you live with yourself is a complete mystery.

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Re: AMERICANS: You Need Not Lick the Boots that Kick You!!!

16 Jul 2002 13:27:35 -0700

The Commentator (guess@whocares.net)

Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)" (vgorilla@pobox.alaska.net) wrote:

Raymond Karczewski (arkent@arkenterprises.com) wrote:

NOTE TO COMMENTATOR AND ALL OTHER IGNORANT AFAB BULLIES/SKEPTICULTIST DISINFORMATION AGENTS:

rk: > Notwithstanding your repetitious mining for information in order to allay your fears and the fears of the other cowardly DISINFORMATION AGENTS who have put their financial future in jeopardy via this Common Law Copyright issue, the item(s) conspicuously missing in your/their posts which would assure you all of receiving the answers you/they desire to your questions is the absence of your/their TRUE IDENTITY affixed to your articles.

vg: I thought you were supposed to be a "detective"? That's what you said, isn't it?

vg: All you need to do is present Internet Alaska, Inc., with a valid court order, signed by a judge, and they'll happily give you my name and address.

vg: If you can't do that, you're just shit out of luck, aren't you?

vg: Fuck off, Raymond Ronald KKKarczewski©! Fuck off, Raymond Ronald KKKarczewski©! Fuck off, Raymond Ronald KKKarczewski©! Fuck off, Raymond Ronald KKKarczewski©! Fuck off, Raymond Ronald KKKarczewski©! Fuck off, Raymond Ronald KKKarczewski©! Fuck off, Raymond Ronald KKKarczewski©! Fuck off, Raymond Ronald KKKarczewski©! Fuck off, Raymond Ronald KKKarczewski©! Fuck off, Raymond Ronald KKKarczewski©! Fuck off, Raymond Ronald KKKarczewski©! Fuck off, Raymond Ronald KKKarczewski©! Fuck off, Raymond Ronald KKKarczewski©! Fuck off, Raymond Ronald KKKarczewski©! Fuck off, Raymond Ronald KKKarczewski©! Fuck off, Raymond Ronald KKKarczewski©! Fuck off, Raymond Ronald KKKarczewski©! Fuck off, Raymond Ronald KKKarczewski©! Fuck off, Raymond Ronald KKKarczewski©! Fuck off, Raymond Ronald KKKarczewski©! Fuck off, Raymond Ronald KKKarczewski©! Fuck off, Raymond Ronald KKKarczewski©! Fuck off, Raymond Ronald KKKarczewski©! Fuck off, Raymond Ronald KKKarczewski©! Fuck off, Raymond Ronald KKKarczewski©! Fuck off, Raymond Ronald KKKarczewski©! Fuck off, Raymond Ronald KKKarczewski©! Fuck off, Raymond Ronald KKKarczewski©! Fuck off, Raymond Ronald KKKarczewski©! Fuck off, Raymond Ronald KKKarczewski©! Fuck off, Raymond Ronald KKKarczewski©! Fuck off, Raymond Ronald KKKarczewski©! Fuck off, Raymond Ronald KKKarczewski©! Fuck off, Raymond Ronald KKKarczewski©! Fuck off, Raymond Ronald KKKarczewski©!

Nazi cunt.

-- V.G.

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Is This a Government Sponsored/Supported Disinformation Agent at Work? (Was: Re: AMERICANS: You Need Not Lick the Boots that Kick You!!!)

Carl R. Osterwald (i@mac.com) wrote:

Raymond Karczewski (arkent@arkenterprises.com) wrote:

rk: The post below was written by one "Carl R. Osterwald." Pay attention to Osterwald's reply to my comment made to "the commentator" wherein I wrote, "the item(s) conspicuously missing in your/their posts which would assure you all of receiving the answers you/they desire to your questions is the absence of your/their TRUE IDENTITY affixed to your articles."

rk: When Osterwald said " Wrongo, Dano! It is my true identity" was Osterwald admitting to being the anonymous poster "the commentator?"

rk: Pay attention to the end of the Path of the header. Osterwald sent the following article from "costerwa.nrel.gov!i" The header organization line reads "Organization: National Renewable Energy Laboratory"

rk: At the site for the National Renewable Energy Laboratory "http://www.nrel.gov/", a check of the employee directory shows "Osterwald" to be an employee. The Directory shows the following:

Osterwald Carl - carl_osterwald@nrel.gov

alias: carl_osterwald

name: Osterwald Carl

email: carl_osterwald@nrel.gov

office_phone: 303-384-6764

fax: 303-384-6790

admin_asst_num: 303-384-6491

center: 5200

1617 Cole Blvd Golden, CO 80401-3393

rk: I have two questions for you to answer inasmuch as other Government/Media Sponsored/Supported AFAB BULLY/SKEPTICULTIST DISINFORMATION AGENTS have been linked to this mind control/disinformation operation on the Internet.

rk: 1. Are you in fact, as your statement below claims, the anonymous poster "the Commentator?"

rk: 2. Are your posts (which originate from the offices of the "National Renewable Energy Laboratory") to these Internet Newsgroups/forums authorized by your employer?

rk: "Enquiring minds want to know!"

Raymond Karczewski©
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From: Carl R. Osterwald (i@mac.com)

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Subject: Re: AMERICANS: You Need Not Lick the Boots that Kick You!!!

Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:28:58 -0000

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In article (c0588d7a.0207170013.18024e01@posting.google.com) Raymond Karczewski, arkent@arkenterprises.com writes:

rk:>> Notwithstanding your repetitious mining for information in order to allay your fears and the fears of the other cowardly DISINFORMATION AGENTS who have put their financial future in jeopardy via this Common Law Copyright issue

cro: Oh, you mean like the following; no problem, happy to oblige: Raymond Karczewski© Raymond Karczewski© Raymond Karczewski© Raymond Karczewski© Raymond Karczewski© Raymond Karczewski© Raymond Karczewski© Raymond Karczewski© Raymond Karczewski© Raymond Karczewski© Raymond Karczewski© Raymond Karczewski©

rk: > the item(s) conspicuously missing in your/their posts which would assure you all of receiving the answers you/they desire to your questions is the absence of your/their TRUE IDENTITY affixed to your articles.

cro: Wrongo, Dano! It is my true identity.

cro: You are just mad that no one believes your messianic claims.

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President Bush, It is Time to Clean Up Our Government!

President George W. Bush

The White House

1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW

Washington, DC 20500

president@whitehouse.gov

July 17th, 2002

Mr. President:

Once again I write your office for your assistance. To date I have not received any replies from your office to my communications. But, unfortunately, that has come to be what is expected. I am not alone in my view of the change which has befallen our government.

Perhaps you can now rectify that.

Attached to this letter you will find the Internet article titled: "Is This a Government Sponsored/Supported Disinformation Agent at Work?"

It serves as hard evidence that an investigation into a Government/Media Sponsored/Supported mind control/disinformation campaign on unwary users of the Internet is long overdue.

On November 2nd, 1997, I filed a Criminal Complaint with the Medford, Oregon FBI office regarding the subject of "Conspiracy to Libel" and the wider issue of government/media-sanctioned mind control operations being conducted on the Internet. Since that filing of complaint with the FBI, all that I have received from my government via your predecessor Bill Clinton, Oregon Senators Ron Wyden and Gordon Smith, and members of the print media has been an ABSOLUTE STONE WALL OF SILENCE.

I'll not go into detail, as ample evidence of this can be found on my Web Site bulletin Board at http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialchst.htm

Over the past 4 1/2 years I have found the conduct of the FBI, my Senators and the media unconscionable in the handling of what clearly poses a major scandal to our government at the highest levels.

At one point I circulated a "Petition to Congress to Compel the FBI to Investigate Government/Media sponsored/supported Mind Control/Disinformation Activities on the Internet" See: http://www.PetitionOnline.com/RayNita1/petition.html

However, the disinformation operators, the very same individuals who would have been the subject of the FBI Investigation, succeeded in *trashing* it.

Forgive me, Mr. President, but based on my years of experience with government (I am a retired police sergeant), I have lost all confidence in my elected representatives.

As such, I am compelled to post this communication publicly on the Internet. I request that fellow citizens who share my concern that our government is rapidly deteriorating and is no longer a servant of the people, contact you to assist you in making a decision which can restore balance to our government.

Without a thorough FBI investigation into this matter of Mind Control operatives controlling public dialogue, I fear our country and our US Constitution will not long survive.

Your decisive action in this matter would go a long way toward restoring public confidence in our government.

May I have your response in writing?

Yours truly,
Raymond Karczewski©

Attachment: http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialch61.htm#Government

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Re: President Bush, It is Time to Clean Up Our Government!

Date: 07/18/02 11:40:10 AM

L. Faure ( ivehadit_au@yahoo.com.au)

Raymond....I have just accessed this forum....and I must tell you that you have impressed me very much. I am always impressed by people who hold their government accountable....who have the intelligence to figure out that dissent...from any quarter.....is the pathway to change...for the better. And the reason I am so impressed is because I live in Australia and here dissent on cyberspace is disallowed...it is looked upon as politically incorrect. The edict is....."grin and bear it!!! for Australia is the most perfect place on earth. I have attempted to criticise certain facets of the Australian system.....only to be censored..completely...and banned totally from that forum. Lest do these people know that even "perfect places" in the absence of dissent....can become "imperfect" quite quickly...as there is no vigilance by its citizens...or better no vigilance is permitted by the system!!!

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Re: President Bush, It is Time to Clean Up Our Government!

Date: 07/18/02 11:40:10 AM

L. Faure ( ivehadit_au@yahoo.com.au)

Raymond Karczewski (arkent@arkenterprises.com

lf: > Raymond....I have just accessed this forum....and I must tell you that you have impressed me very much. I am always impressed by people who hold their government accountable....who have the intelligence to figure out that dissent...from any quarter.....is the pathway to change...for the better.

rk: Is it not a sad commentary upon civilized society that a simple, common, man of Truth, who neither desires, possesses, nor strives to acquire political power, status, and/or celebrity, but clearly understands the unfoldment of Supreme Intelligence when living his life atone with his God-given gift of Sovereignty as a Child of God, a Christ, should be considered impressive?

rk: The simple Truth is that such balance is the True Estate of all men/women. It is, unfortunately, lost to all those who through cultural and societal conditioning have sealed their fate and find themselves reduced to habitual, outer-directed, groveling, bowing and scraping minions of Hell. In their conditioned "self-doubt" they have sold their souls to Satan, the petty god of intellect, for the usual empty promises of "security."

rk: Look around you. Is our world secure?

rk Anyone who depends upon elected hypocrites who promise but seldom deliver on their promises deserve what they get. This I will tell you though. Men and Women of Truth will not be amongst them in the coming Hell they will have brought upon themselves.

rk: The truth of man's sovereignty is eternal. It, however, is hidden-in-plain-sight to time-bound, "Politically Correct," conditioned, blindly-believing ignoramuses -- those who claim to be civilized; but who, in terms of being ruled by a Satanic, dualistic, kill-or-be-killed consciousness, have not progressed one iota from the Stone Age.

rk: A simple man/woman of Truth lives holistically in a nondualistic state of balance -- the "narrow way" which transcends the dualistic Hell of a Satanically (opposer) driven Intellect.

lf: > And the reason I am so impressed is because I live in Australia and here dissent on cyberspace is disallowed...it is looked upon as politically incorrect.

rk: Such abuse of power is an illusion. It would not stand another moment were the legion of Hell's minions to awaken from their conditioned nightmare.

lf: > The edict is....."grin and bear it!!!

rk: That, my spiritual brother, is an even sadder commentary.

lf: > for Australia is the most perfect place on earth. I have attempted to criticise certain facets of the Australian system.....only to be censored..completely...and banned totally from that forum.

rk: It is all a matter of momentum. Those who set and control the momentum "usually" win the game. The simple surefire solution is -- DON'T PLAY THE GAME!!

lf: > Lest do these people know that even "perfect places" in the absence of dissent....can become "imperfect" quite quickly...as there is no vigilance by its citizens...or better no vigilance is permitted by the system!!!

rk: The key to the dissolution of power by the few over the many is not found in RESISTANCE, for such dualistic conflict only feeds the prevailing momentum set and controlled by Satan's Select.

rk: No, resistance is not the way. Those who make the rules and control the money (the symbol of energy) DO NOT PRODUCE anything. They merely exploit and manage the energy of others. Their "apparent" power comes from the common man whose labor is converted into money then redistributed from the HAVE NOTS to the HAVES through legalistic deceptions and intrigue.

rk: No, my spiritual brother, RESISTANCE is not the way. The simple solution to the present problem facing our "civilized world" is found in the passive act of BOYCOTT, BOYCOTT, BOYCOTT!! Do not fuel the political and financial machinery with your own energy (money) and it grinds to a halt, does it not?

rk: STOP THE MOMENTUM of HELL on Earth. When the momentum of Hell comes to an end for lack of energy (money), a NEW CONSCIOUSNESS will emerge. There will be no need for a NEW WORLD ORDER. As long as the present momentum continues, however, traditional conditioned thought patterns dictate that Ignoramuses would rather pick up a gun and kill or be killed.

rk: Make no mistake about it, the financial future of this country (USA) as well as the other nations of the world is already sealed. This country has been bankrupt for decades. Its enslaved minions have been conditioned to place their trust in valueless fiat money.

rk: Those who manage the money -- the bankers, the moneychangers of yesteryear -- are the architects of the present FINANCIAL CRASH IN PROGRESS. It must happen before they can install a CASHLESS SOCIETY and have absolute control over your energy. Does anybody need a better definition of SLAVERY?

Raymond Karczewski©

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"IF RABBITS HAD GUNS, WHO WOULD GO RABBIT HUNTING?"

By Raymond Karczewski

rk: A Post from the Past: Written May 8th, 1996

rk: Truth is Timeless, isn't it?

Who would go rabbit hunting if the rabbits had guns? That was the advice given to me in my old boxing days back in the 50's by my black trainer, a scarred, uneducated, street-wise, South Chicago, 0ver-the-hill fighter. He was a remarkable man who lived by his wits. He was unemployed and had no prospects for such. He survived and supported his family by serving in the only business he knew--fighting. He was a young man in his thirties, and wise beyond his years. He had learned well the harsh lessons of survival, both in the street and in the ring.

He was willing to play the cards life had dealt him, and he faced each day as it came. Being the only white fighter in an all black gym on the south side of Chicago, I learned a great deal about the life I was about to embark upon in those early violent lessons. The lessons have stood me well throughout my life.

What was the lesson of the rabbits? Clearly it was one of momentum. Those who set and control the momentum of any contested course of action are inevitably the victors. Those who make the rules, who can alter the momentum of an event, can change the course and win the contest. It was in this brutal setting that I learned the lesson of one-pointedness; the shift from the fear of duality to the clarity of nonduality, where one's actions were were the mark of the man. I learned that a man was, indeed, the acknowledged sum of his actions.

What has all this to do with life today, as we know it? The answer to that lies in why there is such an effort to disarm the populace of the civilized world through gun control measures. Our founding fathers knew the answer to that one, for the Constitution reveals the wisdom of a society composed of well-armed, free people.

I have written many many articles on the net over the past year about personal sovereignty that is the heritage of all who live in this world of ours, with very little response to my posts. There have been many who have ignored the content of my messages, but chose instead the tactic of shifting focus away from the articles by inserting personal attacks upon the writer. This was followed by multiple campaigns to have my messages taken off the net through my local net server. Why?

It has always been easier to destroy the messenger than to deal with the message. Who amongst you is capable of recognizing the message of freedom when presented to you? By the outcome of my net experience, it would appear to be few indeed. Are we nothing more than fools and dolts, so easily manipulated as long as we have the ablitity to lose ourselves in the distractions of momentary pleasures? It would seem so. Is there hope for a civilized mankind which has been seduced to live life at a level of rationalized ignorance? If there wasn't, I would cease to continue writing on the net. The main theme of my articles center about the use of mind control by the organized institutions of Government and Religion, the two sides of the same coin we call civilized authority.

How do we break loose from the tyranny of institutions based in dualistic concepts? Does not this dependence upon conceptual living make the divisions of the leaders and the led, the haves and the have-nots, the masters and the slaves? Look for the bottom line, look deeply and you will see the truth for yourself.

Again the question must be asked, who would go rabbit hunting if the rabbits had guns? If the people were indeed "intelligent," would they need the "superior" intelligence of goverment and religious leadership to govern and overrule their personal personal thinking process? Clarity dictates that government and religions are the servants of mankind. It is only through confusion and fear which grips an intelligence bound by mind control that casts the same entities as tyranical masters to be served by the mass mind relegated to a level of slavery. Thus, in this simple switch to dualistic dependency based in thought, is created the tyranny of the man-made Hell civilized life has become.

This tyranny is not noticed by most, as their intelligence has been greatly dulled through the conditioning practices which enslave them. They only react to gross emotional stimuli after the policies of encroachment have impacted upon their freedoms, further limiting them in their own parochial, prideful perceptions. It is a slow, incremental, but relentless process. Remember, in mind control, those who set the momentum and make the rules wind up winning the game. It is all done through an educational system which creates self-doubt and encourages a relinguishment of self-responsibility, causing one to depend on intellectually- inclined experts to solve one's personal problems. It contributes to weaving a web of infinite complications that lead to the hell of codependence at every level. Who is able to see that these problems are the product of conceptualized, chronic behaviour patterns instilled upon the young, holistic minds of our children through a hypocritical, uncaring, indifferent, cold and manipulative educational process. What is there to do about it?

First of all, the di has been cast. We, in the Western world, are at the end of a long, established momentum of imperialistic violence founded in the Judeo-Christian traditions of the bible. That is the so-called "white man's law" that has annihilated millions of people throughout the world in the "Name of God," broken the Red Man's culture, stripped him of his lands, and kidnapped and enslaved the black man by promulgating a myth of inferiority.

Whenever a momentum is disturbed, violence occurs. Death and destruction follow naturally. Presently, the violence is controllable and ongoing through management policies of rulemakers, whether it be the government, the UN, or the real rulers behind the scenes, the bankers and multinational elitests who bear no allegiance to anything but profit and power. It is the latter who are behind the shift toward a cashless, one world government. If that should happen, slavery will return to this world big time, certain to surpass the biblical level of the Pharoahs. Make no mistake about it, human life for the have-nots will be manifested as technologically identifiable chattel, nothing more.

Our currency, the medium of trade, the symbol of a man's energy, has been debased. Here in the United States, through an out of control, unaccountable, spending policy of our leadership, combined with the printing of worthless paper, a massive debt has been incurred which calls for the enslavement of our children and grandchildren to pay it off (if ever possible).

It is my perception that we are being manuevered toward a government controlled event which will bypass constitutional constraints. Our freedoms have eroded and, like the proverbial sheep being led to the boxcar, we obey out of fear. With each step we take, space has been stripped away, pushing us into a corner. All the while the clock is ticking, the deficit is soaring, bankrupcy looms larger in the consciousness of a fear-based, collective consciousness as we elect to escape from our personal responsibility by dreaming the dream of a better society. That, my friends, is a clear sign of collective insanity.

What to do about it.

1. Take back possesion of our money (see my suggestions for doing so in my audio tapes "Christs with Amnesia" listed on home page).

2. Return to a gold and silver standard.

3. Call for a national disavowment, a reneging on the U. S. national debt. Let us wipe the slate clean, start over afresh. That is the quickest return to state of equality amongst men. Our world will change overnight. The elitists and bankers will come to know the meaning of equality.

Will there be violence as a result of this action--yes. But it will not be the governmentally-controlled violence currently underway which targets selective portions of world population for extermination through a cold, dualistically-structured administrative approach which carries with it posited immunity releasing them from accountability.

This article is dedicated to my trainer Ron Cannon.

Thanks for the advice!

Ray
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"The freedom of one man living peacefully and cooperatively with others is the key to the freedom of the entire society. Such a change must begin with the individual and flow out like a ripple from a pebble dropped into a pond."

Excerpt from "Journey Beyond Thought" by Raymond Karczewski

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"And the Wall Came Tumbling Down!!"

Raymond Karczewski (arkent@arkenterprises.com) wrote:

JAMIE ECKLES aka drpostman, should you claim the papers sent you via Registered Mail were destroyed "in a fire," I am posting this article to assist your attorney in giving you his best advice.

In this post, I repeat the contents of the Private Security Agreement and Invoice for fees for the unauthorized use (i.e., counterfeiting) of my Private Property (my Common Law Autograph Signature) sent earlier to, and received by you via Registered Mail. See: Attn: AFAB BULLIES/SKEPTICULTISTS: Step Right Up -- Take the Challenge!! http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialch59.htm#AFAB

You and the other AFAB BULLIES/SKEPTICULTISTS may find it interesting that since my letter to President George Bush on July 17th, 2002, see: http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialch61.htm#President It has been noted that the Treasury Dept. (Secret Service??) i.e., "11.treas.gov - - [17/Jul/2002:15:21:50 -0700]" has visited my website.

The import of this which concerns you and the other Government/Media Sponsored/Supported Mind Control/Disinformation Agents operating on these Internet Newsgroups/forums is that the STONE WALL OF SILENCE is being shaken at the highest levels of government and is about to come "tumbling down."

The unmasking of the Government/Media Sponsored/Supported AFAB Bullies/Skepticultists Disinformation Agents who now find themselves between a "rock and a hard place" is an event that will shake the very foundation of this once free society.

Hell, isn't it?

Raymond Karczewski©
Autograph Common Law Copyright. All Rights Reserved
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RAYMOND RONALD KARCZEWSKI©

PO Box, 1870, Cave Junction, OR 97523

INVOICE
Verified Statement of Account Non-Negotiable-Private Between the Parties
Account Debtor:...........................................Account Creditor:
Jamie Eckles.................................Raymond Ronald Karczewski©
106½ Graham, Apt C.................. Post Office Box 1870
West Memphis, AR 72301..............................Cave Junction 97523 Oregon

In accordance with notice and terms contained within that certain private, consensual contract by and between Account Debtor JAMIE ECKLES and Account Creditor Raymond Ronald Karczewski©, i.e. "Notice by Written Communication/Security Agreement" dated June 24, 2002 received and executed by JAMIE ECKLES on June 23, 2002, and July 12, 2002, respectively , an accounting of unauthorized-use fees incurred by JAMIE ECKLES current as of this Invoice, re JAMIE ECKLES' use of Account Creditor's private, common-law copyrighted property, is set forth as follows:

Principal Amount....Unauthorized-Use....Locator Occurrences of Use....Extended Amount

$500,000.00......... Written Internet Communication.......... 1008.......... 504,000,000.00
authored by JAMIE ECKLES/DrPostman (Its@mysig.emailthere)
Message-ID: rndbhu43mmcr542q1dq9brq4kts7ogs48c@4ax.com
dated Sun, 23 Jun 2002 11:58:04 GMT


$500,000.00......... Written Internet Communication.......... 1008.......... 504,000,000.00
authored by JAMIE ECKLES/DrPostman (Its@mysig.emailthere)
Message-ID: nclchucln441sq3bj8elu0ol7goc5g73at@4ax.com
dated Sun, 23 Jun 2002 23:12:05 GMT


$500,000.00......... Written Internet Communication.......... 198.......... 99,000,000.00
authored by JAMIE ECKLES/DrPostman (Its@mysig.emailthere)
Message-ID: 44rsiug47jtk7nulhf21vbbgsjtjgi322l@4ax.com
dated : Fri, 12 Jul 2002 05:43:41 GMT


.................................................................. total 1,107,000,000.0

The total amount of this Invoice is One Billion , One Hundred Seven Million, United States Dollars ($1,107,000,000.00). This amount is now due and owing. Payment in full is herewith demanded. Remit to:

Raymond Ronald Karczewski©

In care of: Post Office Box 1870

Cave Junction 97523 Oregon

This Invoice is dated: the Twelfth Day of the Seventh Month in the Year of Our Lord Two Thousand Two.

The Undersigned, Raymond Ronald Karczewski© does herewith swear, declare, and affirm that the Undersigned has examined this Invoice and any accompanying schedules, statements, and documents and that, in accordance with the best of the Undersigned's knowledge and belief, this statement of account is true, correct, and complete. This declaration of Raymond Ronald Karczewski© is based on all information of which Raymond Ronald Karczewski© has any knowledge.

Signed: Raymond Karczewski©
Autograph Common Law Copyright. All Rights Reserved

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Re: "And the Wall Came Tumbling Down!!"

Mon, 22 Jul 2002 00:09:06 GMT

DrPostman (Look@mysig.foremail)

On 21 Jul 2002 10:07:16 -0700, arkent@arkenterprises.com (Raymond Karczewski) in accordance with The Prophecy prognosticated:

rk: JAMIE ECKLES aka drpostman, I have given you and the others every opportunity to back out of this financial pickle that once entered, you shall never recover from, yet you persist.

rk: drpostman, it is clear you are not merely an ignorant man, you are a very stupid man.

rk: The fact that I have no desire to become a SLAVEHOLDER, holding the life of another human being in my hands, has been the reticence you and others observe in my actions. However, your comments below indicate there is no other option left but to allow you to learn the lesson the hard way.

Raymond Karczewski©
Autograph Common Law Copyright. All Rights Reserved

rk: >>JAMIE ECKLES aka drpostman, should you claim the papers sent you via Registered Mail were destroyed "in a fire," I am posting this article to assist your attorney in giving you his best advice.

pm: > Give it a rest Ray. I am too busy rebuilding my life to think about your silliness. You don't even know my full legal name, so you are wasting your time. I don't even have an ISP for you to go after anymore - not that you ever did that or know how to.

pm: > You are not a well person and I think it is best to ignore you for a while, if not for good.

pm: > Good by Ray, get help soon.

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President Bush, It is Time to Clean Up Our Government! (Was: Re: What The Hell happened to Anita?)



President George W. Bush

The White House

1600 Pennsylvania Avenue

NW Washington, DC 20500

president@whitehouse.gov

July 23rd, 2002

Mr. President,

The following is additional information to assist you in bringing this present STONEWALLED matter of GOVERNMENT/MEDIA, SPONSORED/SUPPORTED MIND CONTROL/DISINFORMATION ON THE INTERNET to closure.

May I expect your answer in writing?

Raymond Karczewski©
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Tue, 23 Jul 2002 15:24:59 GMT

"Just Babble" (res0nipg@verizon.net) wrote:

Raymond Karczewski (arkent@arkenterprises.come) wrote:

rk: jb, your comment "I really admire him for standing up to you inmature trouble makers" misses the mark.

rk: You fail to see these anonymous cowards are not "immature trouble makers." That is merely their cover. These vicious, malevolent-souled individuals are a well organized group of conspiratorial Government/Media Sponsored/Supported Disinformation Agents whose sole purpose is to affect/impact the mindsets of newsgroup contributors and ultimately control the flow of information on these Internet newsgroups/forums through tactics of defamation, misdirection and intimidation.

rk: They have accomplished their goal of intimidation of you when you say "I didn't want to get into this and this will be my last post on the subject so dont expect replies to your criticism of me."

rk: What group of "inmature trouble makers" do you know who would band together using a multitude of aliases and headers to defame, libel, stalk, forge, hack, mail-bomb, erect websites for the express purpose of ridicule, conduct repeated bandwagon campaigns to encourage others to stop my posting on the Internet through fictitious filing of SPAM complaints to my ISP, and ultimately block my posts from reaching their intended newsgroups through behind-the-scenes technical computer manipulations, spending thousands of hours over the 7 1/2 years I have posted on the Internet, and brag openly of their conduct by admitting they are employed to do so?

rk: Note Jamie Eckles' aka drpostman's very first post as it appears on USENET on January 1, 1997. His sig line was already composed. Anyone find that a bit intriguing?

rk: He hits the ground running. Note his comments in his very first post are directed toward me on Jan. 11th, 1997 in the "alt.religion.roy-masters newsgroup" (there's a clue there for those folks who have the "eyes to see") when he says "Our paychecks for dissing you finally arrived." These "in your face" admissions have been repeatedly made by other anonymous Government/Media Sponsored/Supported AFAB BULLY/SKEPTICULTIST DISINFORMATION AGENTS. In those statements, drpostman and the other anonymous disinformation agents establish the intention to use my private property, i.e., my copyrighted name for commercial gain. That's going to cost them dearly.

rk: I have attempted to seek remedy through established government channels since November 2nd, 1997 and have come to realize that our Government, from the highest levels down to the County and Local level, isn't the least concerned about serving and/or protecting its citizens from this kind of outrageous abuse of our American Right to Freedom of Speech. I have contacted President Bush, his predecessor Bill Clinton, and my Oregon Senators Ron Wyden and Gordon Smith regarding this matter on several occasions. All that I have received for my efforts throughout the years has been a STONE WALL of SILENCE.

rk: By the way, this post is also being sent to President Bush. Let us see how long this issue can be ignored. Can it, will it be ignored until our nation's sovereignty is dissolved and we as a once free nation are assimilated into the slavery of a NEW WORLD ORDER? That only you, the *aware* reader, can control. Once martial law is implemented, you can KISS YOUR FREEDOM GOODBYE!!

rk: In the interim, I have opted to take the law into my own hands, Commercial Law, the Uniform Commercial Code (UCC).

rk: drpostman is merely the first of many more AFAB BULLY/SKEPTICULTIST DISINFORMATION AGENT financial casualties to come. Under the terms of the private self-executing contract (see: http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialch59.htm#AFAB ) by their actions they have no shield of government immunity to protect them.

rk: Hell, isn't it?

Raymond Karczewski©
Autograph Common Law Copyright. All Rights Reserved
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From: DrPostman (jamiemps@mindspring.com)

Subject: Re: I don't get it !!!!!!!!

Newsgroups: alt.fan.art-bell

Date: 1997/01/01

Postmans sigline: Dr.Postman USPS, MBMC, HdCPSA

Knight of the Potato Cannon,

Facilitator of Art Bell Anonymous,

Member,Board of Directors of afa-b,

And a lifetime member of the Art Bell Internet Fan Club,

"Disgruntled, But Unarmed"

NOTICE TO SPAMMERS - YOU DO NOT HAVE MY PERMISSION TO ADD ME TO ANY EMAIL LIST TO DO SO WILL BE CONSIDERED AND INVITATION TO ABUSE AND/OR WILL BE REPORTED TO YOUR PROVIDER

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

From: DrPostman (jamiemps@mindspring.com)

Subject: Re: Talking Catfish, etc....

Newsgroups: alt.fan.art-bell, alt.fan.publius, alt.religion.roy-masters

Date: 1997/01/11

arkent@cdsnet.net (Raymond Karczewski) wrote:

whole hunka doo doo snipped

rk: > By the way, many long-silent individual detractors are now coming out of the woodwork and jumping on the bandwagon at one time as if on cue. You folks wouldn't be having another e-mail campaign to marshall your forces again, are you?

pm: Our paychecks for dissing you finally arrived. I guess the weather held them up.

-- Dr.Postman USPS, MBMC, HdCPSA

Knight of the Potato Cannon,

Facilitator of Art Bell Anonymous,

Member,Board of Directors of afa-b,

And a lifetime member of the Art Bell Internet Fan Club,

"Disgruntled, But Unarmed"

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From: LadyNi (nanaweedkiller@yahoo.com)

Subject: Hey Bro Ray!

Newsgroups: alt.fan.art-bell

Date: 2002-07-22 20:55:44 PST

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-- Dani's Nana A Man of Few Words

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Re: What The Hell happened to Anita?

LadyNi (nanaweedkiller@yahoo.com) wrote

ln: >> Is she sick?

http://www.arkenterprises.com/nitakitc.jpg

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The Commentator (guess@whocares.net) wrote:

c: >> She went to shit and Kazoo ate her...

http://www.arkenterprises.com/nitakitc.jpg

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tscottme (blahblah@blah.net) wrote:

t: >> That's one of the healthiest cadavers I have ever seen. http://www.arkenterprises.com/nitakitc.jpg

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jb: > Thats pretty low - picking on his wife, what does she have to do with it ?

jb: > if you have ever been married you will see that wives cannot control their husbands and may not approve of whatever you think he is doing wrong.

jb: > I read some of the threads when you guys started picking on Raymond and I really don't think it is the right thing to do - everyone should have the right to speak their minds - even raymond.

jb: > I really admire him for standing up to you inmature trouble makers.

jb: > I didn't want to get into this and this will be my last post on the subject so dont expect replies to your criticism of me.

jb: > but i think he should know some of us are on his side.

jb: btw - he has a lovely wife, I love thin attractive women.

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Politics and Religion: "The Devil Is In The Details!!"

Raymond Karczewski (arkent@arkenterprises.com) wrote:

"Lanae" wrote:

At 08:43 PM 7/24/02 -0700, you wrote:

hello ray,

l: two days ago i watched on c span the coverage of louis farrakhan. also the statement of the iranian leader. they both spoke the truth, something you do not hear from our leaders. i have not seen or heard of any coverage of these two speaches. should i be surprised? i think not. did you see these speaches and if so would you comment.

thankyou. p.s. give my regards to anita.

Lanae,

As neither Anita nor I caught the program(s) you refer to, I cannot comment.

The nature of Politics, however, is the "manipulation of public perception." Always has been, always will be. Politics and Religion are the vehicles which allow "the blind to be led by the blind." Truth is something quite different, and is not found within the purview of such PR performances.

All this nonsense would come to an end were the public to awaken to their true Estate as *holistic* human beings, understand their TRUE POWER as the only producers of wealth, and withhold such hard-earned wealth by using the simple tactic of BOYCOTT, BOYCOTT, BOYCOTT.

Withdraw the money which fuels the machine of politics and it will meet the same fate as that of a car which has just run out of gas -- just a nonfunctional pile of parts sitting on the side of the road, inert, unusable and if not refueled, will sit there forever, ripe for salvage.

Lanae, if the banking elitists "crash" the economy in America as is clearly their intention, America, the last bastion of freedom in this world, will be reduced to regional slavery through complete control of a newly-formed peonage via a Cashless, computerized NEW WORLD ORDER.

If the "common people" were to awaken to the fact that they have been swindled, that our fiat money is worthless and has been the vehicle for bringing this country to its present brink of destruction, they would see the intelligence of initiating their own *crashing* of the econony.

Whoever sets and controls the momentum retains power in any dualistic struggle. The solution to America's multitude of problems lies in an immediate financial boycott of government and banks. Even Jesus of Nazareth understood the wisdom of taking on the bankers of his day, the "Temple Moneychangers."

The clear, simple, passive, nonagressive act of Boycott, reinforced by the thunderous voice of an exploited, fed up populace standing shoulder to shoulder would motivate our present unresponsive politicians to either "shape up or ship out."

Following such a simple political cleansing, we can then go about the business of returning this country to an historically value-based gold and silver standard.

It is simply amazing to me that my spiritually blind brothers and sisters are unable to see that TRUTH lies in such simplicity.

In a balanced, Truth-based WORLD, the producers of wealth are the Power. Those who merely manage wealth are Servants. However, in a BASSACKWARD WORLD -- well, no one is really so blind that they cannot see such simple Truth, are they?

Truely it may be said that of the complexity-oriented SATANIC intellect, "THE DEVIL IS IN THE DETAILS."

Raymond Karczewski©

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SOVEREIGNTY, SLAVERY, ILLUSION, MONEY AND THE NEW WORLD ORDER!!!

"Lanae" wrote:

Raymond Karczewski (arkent@arkenterprises.com) wrote:

Fri, 26 Jul 2002 16:04:13 -0700

l: > since everything is conditional and carniverous on this planet how would trying to keep our fiat money mean anything?

rk: Money is merely a manifest symbol of one's esoteric energy. The average "conditioned" person does not possess an iota of understanding regarding such esotericism.

l: > i dont see any thing changing in this present system as long as money rules.

rk: All is energy. A simple, integral person, a Christ, is one who understands the pitfalls of the Satanic (Opposer) Dualistic Way, and thus walks the narrow nondualistic way of balance, the Razor's Edge of Truth.

rk: Such a balanced, creative entity has all that is necessary to meet the challenges of life at any moment, at any given time.

rk: Such Supreme Intelligence, the Holistic (Holy) Spirit of Truth mirrors the foolishness of greedy, acquisitive, wanton, intellectually-driven ignoramuses conditionally tethered to the accumulation of money as a means toward problem solving.

rk: A fragmented person ruled by the vagaries of a dualistic, divided intellect is not only in constant conflict with him/herself but with others. Hell, isn't it?

l: > money as exchage would have to be canceled altogether.

rk: How does one cancel an accumulation of energy? Can it not be seen that until one becomes clear of sight, kind of heart and balanced in nature, the Satanic-induced problems of Hell is the only legacy civilized men shall ever come to know?

l: > when you say boycot you are talking to a separated population.

rk: I am talking to the "individual," not to group-thought-directed "minions." The former is the essence of Intelligence, the latter, the essence of Satanically-ruled Hell. Now look at the world created by Civilized Men. Therein is told the "rest of the story," is it not?

l: > witholding individual income tax without the safety of perponderant groups would only assure an indivual attack.

rk: Ponder a country of 280+ million "individuals" awakening to their true estate of Divine Intelligence. What possible power could a Satanic-ruled few have over such a simple display of holistic intelligence?

l: > with all the legislation on homeland security being passed we will all be without constitutional rights.

rk: Only if the "Wizard of Oz" insanity of the present Trance State of Politically Correct Conditioning continues to hold. Such hypnotic trances, in reality, are delicate illusions, bubbles which may be burst and disintegrated at any time. It is ignorance and inertia which contribute to the longevity of such illusions.

l: > soon each person will have to choose between being part of this system and its perpetual commerce/ greed or they will be a fugitive. simple as that.

thankyou.

rk: "Lanae," with all due respect, you STILL DON'T GET IT!! Let MILLIONS of INDIVIDUALS awaken from their conditioned sleep, rise to their full stature as SOVEREIGN HUMAN BEINGS, stand shoulder to shoulder, face their Intellectually driven Satanic Leaders and -- JUST-- SAY--NO!!

rk: Then you and your sleepyhead spiritual brothers and sisters shall come to understand the TRUE ESTATE OF INTELLIGENCE of CHILDREN OF GOD.

Raymond Karczewski©
Autograph Common Law Copyright. All Rights Reserved

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SOVEREIGNTY, SLAVERY, ILLUSION, MONEY AND THE NEW WORLD ORDER!!!

"Lanae" wrote:

Raymond Karczewski (arkent@arkenterprises.com) wrote:

Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 20:48:04 -0700

l: i have read your site for some time even wrote a comment on your book beyond thought but not until now have i thought you to be arrogant and unkind in your replies.

rk: Just how have I been arrogant and unkind in my reply? I was not addressing only you, but responding to the issues you brought up so that all who have eyes may see. Yet you internalized my comments and narrowly perceived that I was talking about you. Have you not heard the admonition, "Judge not lest Ye be Judged?" It is you who have judged yourself in this unkind manner, not I.

rk: Reread the prior post, which has caused such an emotional reaction in you. Pay attention and you will learn the lesson that your own level of unawareness has taught you.

l: since i am so asleep and not deserving of being spoken to in an uncondesending mannor i can now count you among the many assholes i have tried to communicate with. hell isnt it?

rk: You have said it, have you not?

Raymond Karczewski

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Is An Ounce of Prevention Still Worth a Pound of Cure?

By Anita Karczewski

In present day America, is an ounce of prevention still worth a pound of cure? Doesn't seem so.

On July 18th, 2002, I had a conversation with a well-respected Selma business person who has close ties to the Fire Prevention District - those individuals we depend upon to protect us, our homes and property.

I commented on the smoke in the air. She indicated it was from fires in O'Brien and near Selma.

Then she shocked me by saying "they were going to let it burn. Rather than call out 10 men to fight a small fire, they'd rather wait and call out a hundred."

I commented that if my house were in the path of the fire, I would not be happy about that.

One wonders at the dubious wisdom of such "experts" who hold our lives and property in their hands and then come up with such policies.

Have we lost our common sense? Is this 3+ million-dollar "pound of cure" worth the "ounce of prevention" which could have nipped it in the bud?

Look at the increased fires raging throughout the U.S. Observe how many have been attributed to the very people who have sworn an oath to protect us.

Does common sense still exist in present day America? Is an ounce of prevention still worth a pound of cure?

Isn't it time we come to our senses and hold our officials accountable?

Anita Karczewski

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Isn't it Time Americans Hold Their Public Officials Accountable?

By Raymond Karczewski©

June 7th, 2002. I had my first experience in dealing with personnel of the Josephine County Recorders office. Being a retired Police Sergeant, it was a real eyeopener to see just how much government service has devolved at the trickle-down level of service to the average citizen.

June 18th, 2002. Since no return phone call was received from County Clerk Georgette Brown on June 10th, 2002 as was assured me by Chief Deputy Art Harvey, I sent the following letter to Josephine County Clerk Georgette Brown. See: http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialch57.htm#Clerk

June 27th, 2002. In response to letter received from JOCO Clerk Georgette Brown, See: http://www.arkenterprises.com/uccgbrn2.jpg I sent the following letter to Clerk Georgette Brown via snail mail. See: http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialch58.htm#Identity

One will note that Brown's original excuse for not responding to a common citizen's complaint on June 10th, 2002 was that she was busily engaged with election recount matters. One will also note that in her response to my letter of June 18th, she indicated that the letter was not brought to her attention until June 24th, 2002 a full week after it was sent.

In the letter of the June 27th, I asked Brown and/or the Josephine County Counsel's office for a legal clarification regarding ORS 193.080 which was not addressed. Brown instead attempted to misdirect attention toward the irrelevant section ORS 193.020.

All communications with County Clerk Brown were sent to the County Commissioners via their county email address BCC@co.josephine.or.us In addition, they were publicly posted on bulletin boards in the Cave Junction County Building, Masonic Lodge Building in Kerby and a number of other public community bulletin boards.

August 2nd, 2002, Nearly two months has now elapsed since my first contact with the Josephine County Recorder's Office on June 7th, 2002.

What is wrong with this picture?

Has our country deteriorated to the point where it is folly for one to expect that government is the PEOPLE and elected officials and hired bureaucrats are merely SERVANTS of the PEOPLE??

I still await a clear-cut response from Josephine County Clerk Georgette Brown and/or the County Counsel's office based on existing law and not the "color of office" whimsy of elected officials/public bureacracies who no longer view themselves as public servants.

Here we are today, August 2nd, 2002, and STILL NO WORD has been received regarding this legal matter from County Recorder Georgette Brown, the County Counsel's office, and any one or all of the County Commissioners. What, indeed, is wrong with this picture?

Raymond Karczewski©
PO Box 1870
Cave Junction OR 97523

PS. This communication is being sent to the Josephine County Commissioner email address at BCC@co.josephine.or.us and will also be posted on the Internet at http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialchst.htm and public newsgroups. I encourage all to direct their opinions to the Josephine County Commissioners office regarding this matter. Isn't it time we restored a proper relationship with the public servants we put into office?

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Isn't it Time Americans Hold Their Public Officials Accountable?

Fri, 02 Aug 2002 16:23:40 -0700

Bruce Edmond Stapleton (koo@kykookman.com) wrote:

Raymond Karczewski wrote:

bes: > Yes. But you claim to be a sovereign citizen, and therefore you wouldn't be an American citizen.

bes: > Quit whining about your rights, if you claim to be sovereign.

bes: > Want to be treated like an American?

bes: > Then act like one!

bes: > Pay your taxes and your traffic fines, asshole!

rk: How many times have you heard this Christ say that a Christ Without Amnesia, a simple man/woman of Truth, is but a Divinely guided entity. Although sharing this earthplane with the "Legion of the Hell-bound", (s)he is a free, unencumbered Child of God who is on a visitor's pass to Hell.

rk: As Hell hath no jurisdiction over a Christ, neither does Hell hath jurisdiction over a Sovereign.

rk: Your twisted, compensatory words shout of the pain and suffering of a confused prideful Intellect. Unable to transcend the Satanic contradiction which rules your BASSACKWARD civilized consciousness, you and the multitude of other anonymous cowardly Government/Media shills continue to promote Hell on Earth while you embarrassingly wear such ignorance like a badge of accomplishment.

rk: > Hell, isn't it?

rk: By the way, anyone out there who is seriously interested in breaking the Satanic Hold over their present conditioned state of mind, a good start would be my book "Journey Beyond Thought: Breaking the Bonds of the Conditioned Mind". For order details, consult my Website at http://www.arkenterprises.com/

rk: If the $7.00 asking price is too high a price to pay for spiritual salvation, you may read my free bulletin board at http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialchst.htm

rk: If you are too inert and/or unaware to see the wisdom of what is being offered you in view of the accelerated hellish changes our society and world are undergoing, you shall ensure that you receive the fate you so justly deserve.

Raymond Karczewski©

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Re: Isn't it Time Americans Hold Their Public Officials Accountable?

Sat, 03 Aug 2002 10:32:50 -0600

svanier (svanier@qwest.net) wrote:

Raymond Karczewski wrote:

Isn't it Time Americans Hold Their Public Officials Accountable?
By Raymond Karczewski©

rk: > June 7th, 2002. I had my first experience in dealing with personnel of the Josephine County Recorders office. Being a retired Police Sergeant, it was a real eyeopener to see just how much government service has devolved at the trickle-down level of service to the average citizen.

****SPV.....Just think you sent people to jail for stupid shit and they had to fight this system. How do you sleep at night? And Jesus said you shall have to pay to the last farthing.

spv: Ray lives in a Hell of guilt. He now is mature enough to see what he did with his life and it burns his butt.

spv: Ray lives in Hell. Phamtoms assail him from the windows and doors of his residence. He lives in some paranoid delusion where he has become the victim and yet nobody ever knocks at his door. So he goes and gets a ticket and refused to pay hoping he can be the christ and someone will be at the door to take him away.

spv: Ray is sick. Ray is so fucking nuts he SHOULD take drugs.

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