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Re: Spin Doctors, Tyrants, and Fools -- HELL, ISN'T IT?

snoop IP: 209.136.175.6 wrote:

Raymond Karczewski (arkent@arkenterprises.com) wrote:

posted 08-13-2001 08:18 PM

s: I that li'l debacle in Oregon traffic court isas close as you have come to resisting gubmnt tyranny, I wash my hands of you.

rk: Many rail at my descriptions of anonymous "rabble rousing," mind controlling Internet Disinformation Agents as "slithering, slinking, secreted shadow dwellers" hiding behind masks and refusing to exhibit a scintilla of personal integrity by backing up their words with their "True Identity." Yet you, in you own inimitable, "in your face" method, rub the public's noses in their ignorance with the clear, unequivocal, and proudly proclaimed Internet "handle" of SNOOP!

rk: SNOOP says it all, doesn't it? Yet how many who read your deliberate down home attempt to appear to be a crowd-working, "functional illiterate" rabble rouser and thereby gain support through identification, have the eyes to see and pick up on such a blatant technique of mind control?

s: There are folks on this forum who have bearded the lion in its den and it wasn't traffic court.

rk: Such meaningless "generalities" only impress lesser IGNORAMUSES than you, don't they, SNOOP? Why not be more specific in your writing? Who are these "folks"? What did they do? What was the outcome? You see, that style of writing that you stay far far away from requires integrity, not merely the ability to libel others with cheaps shots and character smears while using words like "li'l" "isas" and "gubmnt" to endear you to the vast choir of ignoramuses you habitually sing to.

rk: You're a phony, SNOOP!

rk: In the vast Google Archives under my name, I challenge you to find a single example of such integral writing arising from the keyboards of my cowardly anonymous detractors (such as yourself). Betcha can't!!

s: You sir, for allyour 65 years, are a piker.

rk: And you, unquestionably, expose yourself as a COWARD!

rk: Now, having established that FACT, shall we proceed?

rk: The vast majority of newsgroup/forum posts which attack my character and my family come from Government/Media Sponsored/Supported mind control/Disinformation Agents attempting to block an individual from speaking Truth on the Internet. They intimidate, they libel, they threaten, they twist and turn words for the purpose of misdirection. Yet the average reader is so dumbed down and insensitive to this vicious anti-human behavior that they consider and accept such violence and deception as "normal daily fare." The media, the broadcast, tv, movie, and print mind controllers do nothing to dissuade this mind set from taking hold. In fact, they go out of their way to reinforce it.

rk: In the instant case, for the last 6 years this well established momentum has failed to twist the words of a man of truth without being exposed by the "Mirror of Truth" which accurately reflects their nefarious actions back to these professional deceivers.

rk: In this post you use the psychological tool of comparison to diminish another's character/reputation in the eyes of spectating readers of these newsgroups/forums.

rk: Instead of dealing with the facts, you wish to create a momentum of speculation by comparing offenses which bring one before a court of law. That's the first step you take in creating a tangential state of illusion -- a handy misdirection.

rk: The next illusion which enslaves the conditioned minds of the masses is the "revered institution" civilized man calls A COURT OF LAW. What a joke!

rk: In this country our COURT OF LAW no longer follows our U.S. Constitution and as such is now synonymous with the phrase TOOL OF OPPRESSION.

rk: It's time the public take a good hard look at our legal system operated by an exclusive good ole boy's club busily engaged in the primary function of the "redistribution of wealth" from the "have nots" to the "haves!" Anybody surprised at that comment? You ought not to be, for it is plain as the nose on your collective face. That ought to tell you something about the current level of intelligence operating in the "politically correct-thinking" mass mind.

rk: You and others openly taunt and challenge another to go out and deliberately commit overt crimes just to be noticed by Law Enforcement. Why would any law abiding person with a semblance of intelligence go out of his/her way to attract the attention of a dumbed-down law enforcement AUTOMATON -- an agent of the corporate government who is deliberately foreclosed upon from operating according to his/her own inherent Intelligence and personal judgment and coerced under penalty of losing their jobs and pensions into enforcing exploitive, extortion based policies of their bosses?

rk: As you well can see, I don't suffer fools very well, as I have long ago learned the lesson of "resist not evil." I merely truthfully and accurately speak OF my observations and do not pander to swarms of ignoramuses bent on misdirection. Hence, most are unable to SEE where I am coming from in my comments. That is the greatest disturbance of all, for without the ability to understand the source of my comments, they are unable to discredit me (if they truly understood the source of my comments, they would find nothing to discredit). The simple fact is that their own conditioned IGNORANCE is the bar to their understanding such simple inarguable TRUTH.

rk: I encourage dialogue, but seldom find it in this medium. As such, I am content to demonstrate an OTHER way of life which cannot be grasped by knowledge bound ignoramuses. A way of life which lies beyond the limited reach of the intellect of LEGIONS of readers. A life based in the narrow way of balance, of TRUTH.

rk: The traffic ticket is not the issue as you would have others believe, is it, SNOOP? It is UNALIENABLE RIGHTS. Most IGNORAMUSES don't have them because they have ALREADY WAIVED them in favor of the security of enslavement through GOVERNMENT LICENSING/PRIVILEGE.

rk: When the average man holds his government officials (including our judges) accountable by demanding his RIGHTS and refusing to capitulate to the threats and intimidations of an UNCONSTITUTIONAL Court, our justice system would rapidly become entangled and ultimately strangled in its own massive web of deceit and exploitation.

rk: That's how Americans can restore Justice in a society of errant Institution-based Injustice.

rk: Many are becoming aware that censorship of my articles is increasing at an extraordinary pace. Here is a list of groups/forums which have censored my articles. Why not write them and ask them why?

USENET newsgroups

Google Archives http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search

MSNBC Religion & Ethics Forum http://bbs.msnbc.com/bbs/msnbc-faith/index.asp

MSNBC Political Forum http://bbs.msnbc.com/bbs/msnbc-politics/index.asp

NEO-TECH Forums http://www.neo-tech.com/front/

Medford Oregon Mail Tribune Newspaper Forum http://www.mailtribune.com/

Oregonian Newspapaer Town Square Forum; http://www.oregonlive.com/forums/townsquare/

**Bendnet Electronic Community Forum http://www.bend.com/bendnet/index.php ***

Friends of Liberty International Discussion Board (Patriot Movement) http://www.friendsofliberty.com

The POWER HOUR http://www.gulfwarvets.com/cgi-bin/forumdisplay.cgi?action=topics&forum=The+Power+Hour&number=5

progun1's Freedom Board, http://members3.boardhost.com/progun1/

AMERICAN PATRIOT FRIENDS NETWORK - bulletin board http://disc.server.com/Indices/149495.html,

rk: Pay close attention to the Patriot Groups. Read my articles, then you tell me where I am in conflict with their claims of wanting a return of justice and freedom to this land.

rk: My take on their censorship is that it can be traced to my exposure of religious mind control techniques employed via a narrow Christian mindset. In their ignorant religious mindset, they are unable to reconcile the word CHRIST as applied to anyone other than their own MYTHICAL HERO Jesus of Nazareth.

rk: The simple fact is that no one can save a slave from their own self-imposed slavery. It is their own mind set which determines a CHRIST, a MASTER, or a SLAVE.

rk: So my question still remains: What's it going to be for the human race -- A NEW WORLD CONSCIOUSNESS or a NEW WORLD ORDER?!!

Ray Karczewski

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Spin Doctors, Tyrants, and Fools -- HELL, ISN'T IT?

snoop ISP: 209.136.175.6 wrote:

Raymond Karczewski (arkent@arkenterprises.com) wrote:

posted 08-14-2001 07:12 PM

rk: Following is "OLE DOWN HOME SNOOP" with his remarkably cleaned up rebuttal. Note SNOOP'S admissions and absence of denials as to his purpose on these boards. After all, would a seasoned Disinformation Agent Lie to You?

s: >>> If that li'l debacle in Oregon traffic court is as close as you have come to resisting gubmnt tyranny, I wash my hands of you.

rk: >> Many rail at my descriptions of anonymous "rabble rousing," mind controlling Internet Disinformation Agents as "slithering, slinking, secreted shadow dwellers "hiding behind masks and refusing to exhibit a scintilla of personal integrity by backing up their words with their "True Identity."

s: > Most of the folks on this forum know my "true identity" and some have known it for years. Others have met me face to face, so that shoud answer your claim as to my cowardice.

rk: How so???

rk: >> Yet you, in your own inimitable,

s: > Thanks I kinda hoped it was a little different.

rk: >> in your face" method, rub the public's noses in their ignorance with the clear, unequivocal, and proudly proclaimed Internet "handle" of SNOOP!

s: > I earned the sobriquet "sooper snoop" nearly 30 years ago, and for reasons which will NOT be divulged on line, at least NOT to you. Some there are who know them, but as a matter of friendship and courtesy, are NOT talkin'.

rk: Other seasoned "Shadow Dwellers," eh? Isn't that Convenient???

rk: >> SNOOP says it all, doesn't it?"

s: > Says what all?

rk: >> Yet how many who read your deliberate down home attempt to appear to be a crowd-working, "functional illiterate" rabble rouser and thereby gain support through identification, have the eyes to see and pick up on such a blatant technique of mind control?

s: >>> There are folks on this forum who have bearded the lion in its den and it wasn't traffic court."

s: > Yep and I was among them! If I believed you had the INTEGRITY to keep your MOUTH shut, I would refer you to at least one locus where you would have to eat a little crow.

rk: >> Such meaningless "generalities" only impress lesser IGNORAMUSES"

s: > The plural of IGNORAMUS IS IGNORAMII, FYI!

rk: All of a sudden you found your misplaced literacy? Isn't that also convenient???

rk: >> than you, don't they, SNOOP?

s: > You have been impressed sufficiently as to cause you to respond.

rk: >> Why not be more specific in your writing? Who are these "folks"? What did they do? What was the outcome? You see, that style of writing that you stay far far away from requires integrity, not merely

rk: >> "the ability to libel others"

s: > Best youy study your legal terminology a little more, ol'bud!

rk: Not only literate, but now a legal scholar. This does not bode very well for the future use of your "down home country bumpkin" characterization, does it???

rk: >> with cheaps shots and character smears while using words like "li'l" "isas" and "gubmnt" to endear you to the vast choir of ignoramuses you habitually sing to.

s: > Again I thank you for your response. Kinda places you in the catgegory you describe above.

rk: >> You're a phony, SNOOP!

s: > It DOES take one to recognize one, EH?

rk: SNOOP, did your knee jerk on that one?

rk: >> In the vast Google Archives under my name, I challenge you to find a single example of such integral writing arising from the keyboards of my cowardly anonymous detractors (such as yourself). Betcha can't!!"

s: > Does anyone else savvy just what tge preceeding sentence means?

s: >>> You sir, for allyour 65 years, are a piker.

rk: >> And you, unquestionably, expose yourself as a COWARD!"

s: > WE ALL KNOW how safe it IS to be so brave online!!!

rk: >> Now, having established that FACT, shall we proceed?"

s: > To where, for what, and most of all , WHY!!!!

rk: >> The vast majority of newsgroup/forum posts which attack my character and my family come from Government/Media Sponsored/Supported mind control/Disinformation Agents attempting to block an individual from speaking Truth on the Internet. They intimidate, they libel, they threaten, they twist and turn words for the purpose of misdirection. Yet the average reader is so dumbed down and insensitive to this vicious anti-human behavior that they consider and accept such violence and deception as "normal daily fare." The media, the broadcast, tv, movie, and print mind controllers do nothing to dissuade this mind set from taking hold. In fact, they go out of their way to reinforce it.

rk: >> In the instant case, for the last 6 years this well established momentum has failed to twist the words of a man of truth without being exposed by the "Mirror of Truth" which accurately reflects their nefarious actions back to these professional deceivers."

s: > Boy YOU are good.

s: > YEP!!! I am a gubmnt agent with only one goal: to quell the yammerings of such as you!! I work for he SATISFACTION of a job well done.

rk: >> In this post you use the psychological tool of comparison to diminish another's character/reputation in the eyes of spectating readers of these newsgroups/forums.

s: > Yep!

rk: "YEP!!! I am a gubmnt agent with only one goal:..." "Yep!" You admit to the use of the psychological tool of comparison to diminish another's character/reputation in the eyes of spectating readers of these newsgroups/forums!! Inquiring minds want to know why you must be so obvious in your liberal use of double-bind statements, confessions and admissions ordinarily expected of Intelligence operatives? What is missing, however, is the usual government CYA (cover your ass) caveat "Just joking, ha ha!!"

rk: >> Instead of dealing with the facts, you wish to create a momentum of speculation by comparing offenses which bring one before a court of law. That's the first step you take in creating a tangential state of illusion -- a handy misdirection.

s: > Ol BUD, I beat, acting as my OWN counsel, the first three tickets I was given as a direct result of my deliberate flaunting of the laws and ordinances of the City of Denver and the State of Colorado. That was while I WAS a gubmnt agent and arfeserve police officer as well .I was on the bandwagon you are now attempting to board way back in 1972.

rk: >> The next illusion which enslaves the conditioned minds of the masses is the "revered institution" civilized man calls A COURT OF LAW. What a joke! "

rk: >> In this country our COURT OF LAW no longer follows our U.S. Constitution and as such is now synonymous with the phrase TOOL OF OPPRESSION.

s: > Surprisingly, we agree.

rk: >> It's time the public take a good hard look at our legal system operated by an exclusive good ole boy's club busily engaged in the primary function of the "redistribution of wealth" from the "have nots" to the "haves!" Anybody surprised at that comment? You ought not to be, for it is plain as the nose on your collective face. That ought to tell you something about the current level of intelligence operating in the "politically correct-thinking" mass mind."

rk: >> You and others openly taunt and challenge another to go out and deliberately commit overt crimes just to be noticed by Law Enforcement. Why would any law abiding person with a semblance of intelligence go out of his/her way to attract the attention of a dumbed-down law enforcement AUTOMATON -- an agent of the corporate government who is deliberately foreclosed upon from operating according to his/her own inherent Intelligence and personal judgment and coerced under penalty of losing their jobs and pensions into enforcing exploitive, extortion based policies of their bosses?

rk: >> As you well can see, I don't suffer fools very well, as I have long ago learned the lesson of "resist not evil." I merely truthfully and accurately speak OF my observations and do not pander to swarms of ignoramuses bent on misdirection. Hence, most are unable to SEE where I am coming from in mycomments. That is the greatest disturbance of all, for without the ability to understand the source of my comments, they are unable to discredit me (if they truly understood the source of my comments, they would find nothing to discredit). The simple fact is that their own conditioned IGNORANCE is the bar to their understanding such simple inarguable TRUTH.

rk: >> I encourage dialogue, but seldom find it in this medium. As such, I am content to demonstrate an OTHER way of life which cannot be grasped by knowledge bound ignoramuses. A way of life which lies eyond the limited reach of the intellect of LEGIONS of readers. A life based in the narrow way of balance, of TRUTH.

rk: >> The traffic ticket is not the issue as you would have others believe, is it, SNOOP?"

s: > IN a word- NO ! ! ! !

rk: >> It is UNALIENABLE RIGHTS. Most IGNORAMUSES (ignoramii-sic) don't have them because they have ALREADY WAIVED them in favor of the security of enslavement through GOVERNMENT LICENSING/PRIVILEGE."

rk: >> When the average man holds his government officials (including our judges) accountable by demanding his RIGHTS and refusing to capitulate to the threats and intimidations of an UNCONSTITUTIONAL Court, our justice system would rapidly become entangled and ultimately strangled in its own massive web of deceit and exploitation."

s: > Please tell us just precisely HOW you will hold your li'l jerkwater country court JP responsible, in terms of the preceeding two paragraphs.

rk: >> That's how Americans can restore Justice in a society of errant Institution-based Injustice."

s: > HOW AND WHEN?

s: > Soap box,

s: > Jury box

s: > ballot box

OR ;

s: > last but not least AND TRULY (in final analysis) MOST EFFECTIVE; cartridge box?

rk: Ah!! There it is -- Spoken like a True Agent Provocateur busily working the crowd into a mob bent on inciting a SHOOTING REVOLUTION!!

rk: SNOOP, isn't it about time for you to follow disinformation SOP (Standard Operating Procedure) and slink back into your protective shadows only to re-emerge with a new handle and start all over again? After all, with a new handle you can avoid the SPAM issue when posting your multiple libelous attacks to your assigned multiple groups/forums, can't you?

Raymond Karczewski

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Spin Doctors, Tyrants, and Fools -- HELL, ISN'T IT?

snoop IP: 209.136.175.6 wrote:

posted 08-14-2001 10:17 PM

s: I am a disagent of information.

s: I will brainwash you into obeying my evil desires. Particularly as your freedom is concerned.

s: I want you to NEVER go against the gobierno!!

s: And always pay a little more income tax than the schedule says you owe. And on and on and.............

s: GEEE i been caught red-handed!! I am blushing shamefully!

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Re: Spin Doctors, Tyrants, and Fools -- HELL, ISN'T IT? (FORGERY)

Re: Town Square (New Admin)

Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 03:44:01 GMT

From: Raymond Karczewski (arkent@arkenterprises.com)

Re: Spin Doctors, Tyrants, and Fools -- HELL, ISN'T IT?

"Lou MinattiT" (louminatti@watchingyou.com) wrote in message news:3B79E233.3FA2@watchingyou.com... > Raymond Karczewski wrote: > > > rk: The vast majority of newsgroup/forum posts which attack my > > character and my family come from Government/Media Sponsored/Supported > > mind control/Disinformation Agents attempting to block an individual > > from speaking Truth on the Internet. > > lm: I challenge you to name names, and submit your evidence.

rk: Well, there's the guy across the street who likes to just stand at the gates of the ranch with a weasel on his head. Call me a Crazy Christ, but there's got to be something sinister about that. Then there's the Bank Of America people. Every night I call them and ask them to turn off that damn sign. IT BURNS! I know they can do it...they have the power!

rk: Then there's Oprah Winfrey, of course. I really don't need to go into detail here, do I?

rk: Hell, there's a whole plethora--A SMORGASBORD, if you will...

rk: ...mmmmmm, smorgasbord....

rk: Damn. Where was I? There's scores of people I could name here. You know, the CFR, the Tri-Lateral Commission, Rush Limbaugh (Now THERE'S a disinformation agent if I ever saw one!) Steve Forbes, Dave Thomas from Wendy's...

rk: Mary Kate and Ashley. Can you say PAID ASSASSINS?

rk: There's more, but the meds are wearing off and I need sleep.

Ray Karczewski

-- *************************************************************** When Christ Speaks --- Who Listens? Error: posting not allowed. MSNBC is currently rejecting posts from your site. Ruminations of a Living Christ http://www.arkenterprises.com ***************************************************************

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The least one can say is you're a piker Ray

Re: Spin Doctors, Tyrants, and Fools -- HELL, ISN'T IT? (Raymond Karczewski)

Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 06:14:42 GMT

From: Utterly meaningless life and death (unknown)

Traffic court hysteria is your big claim to fame? Pathetic. Your "life" really is totally meaningless, isn't it? Your death will be too. I hope you remember the day you die how much damned time you wasted pointlessly attacking others as opposed to engaging in serious, potent action. You must watch waaaaay too much TV, judging from such constant overblown treatment of the most inane things people can be. What's left of your brain has been ground down into liquified pulp.

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You're a vicious child abuser. You'll get no respect here

Re: Spin Doctors, Tyrants, and Fools -- HELL, ISN'T IT? (Raymond Karczewski)

Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 06:16:50 GMT

From: At least snoop doesn't attack children (unknown)

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Your paranoid screedfests are shameless

Re: Spin Doctors, Tyrants, and Fools -- HELL, ISN'T IT? (Raymond Karczewski)

Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 06:22:59 GMT

From: snoop (unknown)

I am a disagent of information. I will brainwash you into obeying my evil desires. Particularly as your freedom is concerned.

I want you to NEVER go against the gobierno!!

And always pay a little more income tax than the schedule says you owe. And on and on and.............

GEEE i been caught red-handed!! I am blushing shamefully!

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JoCo Mental Health Department loves you Ray

Re: Spin Doctors, Tyrants, and Fools -- HELL, ISN'T IT?

Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 06:24:58 GMT

From: Senor Chico (unknown)

Ray, you really do need to seek the counsel of mental health professionals.

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Government and the Patriots -- Perfect Together!!

Joseph Keeney (joseph.keeney@internetcds.com) wrote:

Raymond Karczewski (arkent@arkenterprises.com) wrote:

mafia and the globalists -- perfect together

thu Aug 16 13:26:52 2001

jk: I am a 60 second activist.

jk: While I do support Convervatives like Rush Limbaugh, they should also support me.

jk: I am victim of ritual abuse by globalists, communists and the mafia. The mafia in carrying out their vendettas, do not really put this country first nor God. They put their own vindictive aims first, and they would sleep with the devil if they could.

jk: The power they hold within the CIA is more helpful to the NWO and socialists more than it is to this country. And, if they don't like one of their persecuted targets speaking out politically -- tough!!!

jk: Harassment by all groups in this country has put this patriot (me) in an unique situation whereby I can see what is going on. What has happened to me is classified so the lies and disinformation can go on.

jk: But so what I was just a human being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

jk: And, what the hell is ths supposed to mean? Dec 31 1969 18:00

rk: Joe, forgive me for changing your title, but it needed to be said!!

rk: As to your time stamped message: "Dec 31 1969 18:00" I don't know Joe, but I have been getting the same repeated messages from the APFN Patriot group, even after my articles have been stopped by their moderator from appearing on the "public" APFN board.

rk: CENSORSHIP is alive and well in the Patriot Community. I keep putting the articles up, and somebody from APFN keeps taking them down. (By the way, this one's going up too. Lets see how long it stays up and whether the CENSORS at APFN will comment openly about the issues presented in this article.)

rk: Here is what the APFN moderator wrote me after my continued postings to his group. (Yes, it was all in CAPS!!)

To: arkent@arkenterprises.com CC: American Patriot Friends Network (apfn@apfn.org)

Subject: RE APFN MESSAGE BOARD

YOU ARE WASTING YOU TIME POSTING TO APFN MESSAGE BOARD... I WILL DELETE ALL YOUR POSTINGS.... IT IS NOT YOUR PERSONAL FORUM THANK YOU FOR RESPECTING THIS BOARD.... ON WARD AND UP WARD... GOD BLESS ----------PATRIOT - FREEDOM- RESTRICTION- CENSORSHIP-

rk: Anybody sensing a mixed message here?

rk: Why do you suppose a Moderator of such a board would try to make a case that I am trying to use his board a personal forum when, by the sheer evidence of the numbers alone of articles posted, THAT CLEARLY IS NOT THE CASE.

rk: Why are my articles and not those of others who post more frequently selected for censorship? Could it be DEPTH OF CONTENT which penetrates deeply beyond the psychological defense mechanisms of the human psyche and exposes such predictable knee jerk responses of conditioned human beings who are incrementally being primed to KILL and be KILLED? All is not what it appears to be, eh Joe?

rk: Since this message doesn't have a snowball's chance of making it public to the APFN Board, I'm going to POST IT ANYWAY along with reposting it to the remaining rapidly dwindling numbers of newsgroups/forums (and the public thinks the Internet is not being controlled by those who control all other present venues of communication) which still allow my articles to appear.

rk: As for you, Joe, and others who wish to be assured of reading what I have to say, you can always read them on my bulletin board at http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialchst.htm The busily working Internet gremlins/hackers have taken a couple of runs in the past at bringing down my website, but so far they have failed.

rk: I'm just about ready to wash my hands of the American People (Remember Sodom & Gomorrha, Noah, etc?) and let them get exactly what they deserve. They sure as hell are TOO DUMB and INERT to expect FREEDOM!!

rk: They're being worked over by both sides, the government and Patriot movement leadership. Each "apparent Opposite" (Remember what I have said about SATAN, the OPPOSER?) which make up the whole of power are pushing the American People and other WORLD CLASS IGNORAMUSES toward MASS ANNIHILATION.

rk: Look to where the FUNDING is coming from. There you will find the same few elitists backing both sides, pitting them against each other. When will the IGNORAMUSES of the world, finally learn the lessons of HISTORY? At present, the "Political/Religious Correct Thinking public seems to be too DUMB DOWN and UNAWARE to understand it.

Ray Karczewski

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Deleting off-topic posts

Always amazed (Unk)

Thu Aug 16 15:45:49 2001

Your posts are undoubtedly deleted because they are self-serving and self-aggrandizing rants that have *nothing to do with the topic of this board.* We *still* don't care about the constant, stupid squabbles you can't extricate yourself from on other forums, and no one wants this forum plunged into the mental illness and aggression you subject other places to. The fact you keep getting thrown off many, many other boards shows you smply can't control your own mental illness, and must be forced to either stay on topic or stop posting to preserve the integrity of the board. Get past your sickness Raymond, and learn to understand that your strange psychosis is not the be and end all of existence.

Even the way you "understand" the fact people don't want their boards cluttered with your sick screeds proves how unwell you have let yourself become. The fact you can't see beyond your own fixations only underscores there's nothing to do but forcibly delete whatever you obsessively post that degrades the board, and turns it from a forum where people can exchange ideas about personal responsibility and proper government into a degrading, and degraded mudslinging fest. Grow up already, and learn to control your own overwrought emotions.

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Please do "wash your hands" of this board

Anonymous wrote:

Thu Aug 16 15:57:02 2001

You need more than a good, harsh cleansing to come back to your senses. Your psychotic screeds do nothing to uplift, inform, or challenge. All you do is assault anyone who disagrees with you, and reflexively turn their names over to the government you claim to hate so much, demanding all dissenters be investigated and imprisoned for no better reason than they know you are insane and say so. You are a disagrace to the patriot movement, and make us look like a bunch of damned kooks. Good riddance to bad mental health. Good bye already Ray.

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No one is preventing you from posting to your own board

Anonymous wrote:

Thu Aug 16 15:53:21 2001

Your constant attacks and obvious emotional unbalance have made your posts completely unworthy of this forum however. Feel free to post whatever you want on your message board: you have the right to attack anyone you want there. But you've become damned weird and abusive, especially as of late, and seem incapable of staying on topic even if your life depended on it. I for one thank the forum modreator for not allowing this board to become another sick joke of yours, as you seem determined to make it.

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Christs and a New World Consciousness or Satanists and a New World Order?!!

rk: Read the above article at http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialch25.htm#Christs

rk: Then observe the following responses to it?

rk: And I'll bet you thought Disinformation Agents did not work around the clock on these Internet newsgroups/forums?

Raymond Karczewski

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You call a man in a wheelchair debris on wheels?

Glen Quarnstrom

Sat Aug 18 06:12:55 2001

arkent@internetcds.com (Raymond Karczewski) wrote:

rk: > Ad hominem attacks are a sign of ignorance. Why use them?

gq: Not bad, 'Zoose. That was a 9.3, even with all the filters installed.

gq: G "human debris on wheels" Q

(FYI: Glen in an old man in a wheelchair whom Ray likes to call "debris on wheels") --

gq: "rk: Ad hominem attacks are a sign of ignorance. Why use them?" ---bRay gives the Irony Meter a field test.

glenq@cyberhighway.net

rk: NOTE: Glen Quarnstrom, DIED approximately a month ago.

rk: This forum has just been TREATED to a post by a DEAD MAN!!

rk: And you think, DISINFORMATION AGENTS DON'T ABOUND ON THESE GROUPS/FORUMS.

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You did call him debris on wheels Ray.

Oregon Patriot

Sat Aug 18 06:27:30 2001

op: No one invited you to cross-post anything here Ray. Keep your mental illness to yourself. Your malice during the man's life changes nothing about your lack of character and decency. What you are will be made known Ray. You will not rewrite history.

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Urgent request for Raymond Karczewski

A Patriot

Sat Aug 18 06:03:31 2001

ap: Ray, these self-serving rants you constantly spam here make the board look like a bunch of damned kooks. You have your own message board, so spam yourself for a change. Just like what you did with the petition to withdraw form the UN, I ask to **out of decency and respect to not lead anyone to confuse real patriots with your mental problems and strange history of violence.** That's not what I am about, nor are the rest of the folks who post here. If you have even a shred of decency or sanity left in you, stop posting these screeds about being God here. You obviously know nothing about Christ, what is holy, or what is even minimally good in the world in human terms. Such assertions on the part of someone as hate-filled and mentally ill as you are deeply offensive, to say the least. Don't plunge this board into your personal toilet of narcissism and hate.

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Still trying to unload those vanity tapes?

The Oregonian

Sat Aug 18 05:56:01 2001

Good luck Ray: it's been many years you've been trying to hawl your hypocrisy, and you still haven't unloaded it. People see through your hate and violence. No godliness in you at all.

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Your history as a child abuser makes me sick

Reaction from Ray's Neighbors

Sat Aug 18 05:51:59 2001

Ray, you are a deeply offensive hypocrite. You abused the hell out of your own damned children to the point you haven;t laid eyes on them in decades, and now try and pass yourself off as God. In the end, God has made you pay the price for your creulty and viciousness. No one takes you seriously on Townsquare and your history shall be made known. You will not rewrite your violent past away as some self-agrandizing myth of your own holiness. Christ did not abuse children.

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Staop cross-posting your filthy laundry here

Anonymous

Sat Aug 18 06:24:52 2001

Ray, this is disgusting and pathetic. Not only is your original rant stupid and meglomaniac, but the responses you cross-post here to prove what a "victim" you are elsewhere is abject. Keep your garbage on your own masseage board, and stop making this forum look like your personal outhouse. You degrade the patriot movement with your delusions of being Christ, and I resent you trying to confuse what we're doing here with your painful psychosis.

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Two-bit tax parasite, whining psycho, and child abuser

Re: Christs/New World Consciousness or Satanists/NWO (Raymond Karczewski)

Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 10:45:37 GMT

From: No godliness at all in you hypocrite (unknown)

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Stop spamming our board w/ your self-aggrandizing crap

Re: Christs/New World Consciousness or Satanists/NWO (Raymond Karczewski)

Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 11:03:58 GMT

From: APFN (unknown)

To: arkent@arkenterprises.com

CC: American Patriot Friends Network (apfn@apfn.org)

Subject: RE APFN MESSAGE BOARD

YOU ARE WASTING YOU TIME POSTING TO APFN MESSAGE BOARD... I WILL DELETE ALL YOUR POSTINGS.... IT IS NOT YOUR PERSONAL FORUM THANK YOU FOR RESPECTING THIS BOARD.... ON WARD AND UP WARD... GOD BLESS

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Your arrogance is sickening

Anonymous

Sat Aug 18 07:07:33 2001

Christ was the epitome of humilty. You on the other hand are the most flamingly arrogant narcissist on the Internet. Repent Ray. Your soul is eaten away by pride and hate.

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Christs and a New World Consciousness or Satanists and a New World Order?!!

Tax money.

Ray's beleagured neighbor

Sat Aug 18 09:49:54 2001

rbn: For all his rants about taxes, he and his wife have refused to work for decades and live completely off our taxes. He was forcibly retired from a short stint as a cop in California because he couldn't be trusted with a gun in public, and has been drawing money off that ever since. This in addition to SSI, and other public welfare grants.

rk: Note: Every thing the anonymous coward states in his posts is false and libelous. My two neighbors on each side were older retired couples with no children. Aside from the sale of my books and tapes, my source of income is derived from a Police Retirement Pension via California's Public Employee Retirement System (PERS). It arises as a result of a medical retirement (Back Injury). If one looks closely at the picture of the Water Tower Incident they will discern a "back brace" being worn as I pull the suspect down from the Water Tower. See http://www.arkenterprises.com/watower.gif and http://www.arkenterprises.com/tower.htm

rk: As far as living on welfare grants, I have never been the recipient of welfare benefits in my entire life.

rbn: He rationalizes it by saying Jesus didn't work, so he can sponge off us. He lives off someone else's property, refuses to pay rent,

rk: All you need do now is prove such an assinine assertion.

rbn: and rationalizes it in the same way. This is why he gets the reaction he does here in Oregon. We don't believe in able-bodied people living off other people's labor and contributions to society. Another thing he doesn't mention is the fact he had to flee California and Nevada because people got sick of his weird attacks and sickness there too.

rk: more nonsense from a cowardly anonymous libeler.

rk: Does anybody see how dangerous this issue of free-wheeling anonymous Character Assassination attacks by Government/Media sponsored/supported Mind Control/Disinformation Agents has become? This malfeasance of office is part of the Hegelian Dialectic of our Federal Government and is designed to Strip away Free Speech Rights on the Internet and exacerbate the present explosive level of conflict which permeates our society, and is leading us into a NEW WORLD ORDER.

rk: All they had to do was to investigate the criminal complaint lodged with the Medford Oregon field office of the FBI on November 2nd, 1997 and easily do so with the laws presently on the books. Yet the curious choice, steadfastly adhered to, by the FBI, the Federal, State and County Politicians, and the Media responsible for reporting the News HAS BEEN TO ERECT A STONE WALL of SILENCE surrounding the issue and keep the non-computer using public completely IGNORANT of the issue which now threatens our present way of life. Anyone out there ever hear of such Government/Media STONE WALLING tactics used as a matter of "NATIONAL SECURITY?"

rk: If that's not MIND CONTROL and EVIDENCE of an errant GOVERNMENT/MEDIA no longer serving the Public, then what is???

Its time to WAKE UP folks!!

rbn: He just moves from state to state until he is has inevitable legal problems due to his Christ complex and public psychosis.

rk: Proof is necessary, not libelous statements shot from the hip!!

rk: Anita and I have held residency in Three (3) States in our entire lives. Illinois 24 years, California 21 years, Oregon 18 years (and counting). Hardly Transient, wouldn't you say?

rbn: He's done this here too recently, he has threatened virtually everyone here in the process,

rk: Who is EVERYONE? Hell, you won't even identify YOURSELF!! Rather cowardly, isn't it?

rbn: and we are hoping he will move away and leave us in peace. He is dangerous, aggressive, psychotic, armed, refuses all help, and turns over the names of anyone who disagrees with him to the FBI and CIA for investigation. We want him away from our families before he hurts someone.

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To whoever the hell is cross-posting Karczewski crap

Re: Town Square (New Admin)

Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 13:43:57 GMT

From: Who gives a hot damn?? (unknown)

Give it a rest. The man's severely psychotic, and everyone knows it. Ignore him, and eventually his spam will die away.

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No it won't.

Re: To whoever the hell is cross-posting Karczewski crap (Who gives a hot damn??)

Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 14:37:52 GMT

From: More than 6 years he's been spamming her (unknown)

Ray has refused to work for decades now, has literally nothing else to do in his life, and no amount of inattention has succeeded in reducing or eliminating his spam. This has been going on now for several years. His screeds are completely pointless, I agree, but ignoring him doesn't work to diminish his attacks. Gievn this basic fact,. I think it is best all the truth be posted with his own myths, so people can intelligently evaluate them for what they are.

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There is no Ray of hope...

Re: To whoever the hell is cross-posting Karczewski crap (Who gives a hot damn??)

Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 15:02:18 GMT

From: Help Desk (unknown) We have endured his senseless drivel for more than 6 years on the internet... the man clearly will never stop. There have been many who have tried to help him, but there is no longer any hope for Ray.

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Yeah Ray. Government agents are up all night watching

Re: Christs/New World Consciousness or Satanists/NWO (Raymond Karczewski)

Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 13:42:38 GMT

From: What a wanker you are. Be ashamed. (unknown)

Ray, you're getting flamed, again. Why does this surprise you? There is nothing more predictable and despressing than watching you wallow in self-indulgence and victimotology. And why in the world would you posit some damned government "agents" would possibly be up 24 hours a day watching for your ludicrous posts? There is plenty for private people to mock without positing anything so ridiculous as this. Get a grip on your grossly overblown ego man. You're making a sick spectacle of your mental illness...again.

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How do you reconcile your contradictions?

Re: Christs/New World Consciousness or Satanists/NWO (Raymond Karczewski)

Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 15:54:25 GMT

From: Hal (unknown)

On one hand you suggest we "resist not evil", ie: let the world go its merry way, but retaining our own integrity. On the other, you say we should change the world (and you suggest the ways). Your message is confusing.

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This is my question too.

Re: How do you reconcile your contradictions? (Hal)

Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 16:09:11 GMT

From: Another contradiction in essence (unknown)

You constantly spam raging posts against your multitude of detractors, yet equally demand one "resist not evil." Which is it Ray? How you do understand your own posts, given they're nothing but vituperation against what you perceive as evil? Your contradiction in essence couldn't be more jarring or ironic.

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Why do you LIE so much, Ray? Why?

Re: Tax money. (Raymond Karczewski)

Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 18:58:20 GMT

From: Your long-suffering neighbor. (unknown)

Unk: Every one of my statements is true. Your rebuttals are all false, and backed up only by the weakest of links to an arcane, psychotic jumble of a web site that YOU YOURSELF have created. What kind of "proof" is that?! Only your enormous gun collecion keeps the sheriff's office away from your compound.

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Re: Christs and a New World Consciousness or Satanists and a New World Order?!!

Sat, 18 Aug 2001 16:45:56 -0100,

pumpkin@freedom.net wrote:

SPV wrote:

Raymond Karczewski wrote:

rk: >> And you think, DISINFORMATION AGENTS DON'T ABOUND ON THESE GROUPS/FORUMS.

****SPV > .....Ray, why do you give a shit if someone is pulling your leg. Ray has no sense of humor. Ray has no depth.

p: Ray has seen the end of human civilization and desperately wants to help.

spv: > And Ray is without creativity.

p: The world must change with a new vision of truth based on principles.

spv: > Well God likes the world the way it is so you're shit out of luck.

p: Spv-You and others like you prove that this world is not under gods control yet! It is evil that is in control here. But hopefully soon he will begin the process that will restore a world united in universal brotherhood.

spv: > So why fight the flow Ray?

p: Because ray knows that the horror that has become this world must be stopped.

spv: > Why go against what is happening consciously for a reason?

p: Because he cares about the needless suffering of others-something that you're kind is incapable of. By your kind I mean druggies!

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Christs and a New World Consciousness or Satanists and a New World Order?!!

Raymond Karczewski (arkent@arkenterprises.com) wrote:

rk: May I bring the readers attention to the original article of this thread below.

rk: I also would ask the readers to observe the following MISDIRECTING responses in this thread following the original article.

rk: Were the contents of the original article addressed? Or has a deliberate misdirection of attention taken place, distracting readers from the importance of the message itself?

rk: Are most readers even aware of the how easily their attention can be misdirected away from serious discussion by the Government/Media Sponsored/Supported Mind Control/Disinformation Agents who prowl these newsgroups/forums and control the flow of information through such tactics as petty gossip, outright deceptions, intimidation and character assassination?

rk: Some may have also observed the sudden recent spate of articles FORGED in my name using my actual email address.

rk: Although these cowardly anonymous deceivers are attempting to attribute such character demeaning FORGERIES to parody, one ought look a little deeper into them before accepting the psycho-manipulators' repeated hypnotic suggestion of parody, ought they not? Is it parody, or is it something much more sinister, destructive, and Satanic in nature?

rk: I have long put forth the challenge to these IGNORAMUSES, and/or to anyone at all, to find a single "Contradiction in Essence" in any of my writing on or off the Internet over the past 6 years.

rk: NOBODY has been unable to do so unless they have first MANUFACTURED the contradiction by misquoting, twisting my words, and/or have taken them out of their original context. They then attack their own constructed deceptions.

rk: These FORGERIES in the name of Raymond Karczewski which now are suddenly appearing on these Internet newsgroups/forums are of such a nature. When memories fade, statements from these forgeries will be taken out of context by these cowardly, shadow dwelling deceivers and/or by their undiscerning cheerleading squad of wannabe coattail-riding ignoramuses who will once again attempt to present them as my words.

rk: As such, the Government/Media sponsored/supported Mind Control/Disinformation Agents have NOW added a new burden on themselves in their failed campaign to discredit me. Not only will they have to prove a "Contradiction in Essence" in any of my writings, but they will now also have to prove that I WAS THE AUTHOR OF SUCH STATEMENTS!!

rk: To ALL the anonymous cowardly disinformation jerks who have toiled so long and hard to set up a simple Man of Truth and have wound up with enough egg on your faces to feed the multitudes, I have three words for you -- HELL ISN'T IT?

Raymond Karczewski

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ORIGINAL ARTICLE

I have written thousands of articles on the Internet since 1995.

Few respond seriously to the simple content of my messages. Many attack that which they do not understand. Understandably so, for such is the tenuous path walked by Christs in a world populated by Satanists.

I write about the "Fall from Grace" civilized man has supported since the dawn of Civilization. It is this fall into Hell that is observed by the Spiritually Sighted as Life on Earth populated by human beings who blindly stumble through its many intellectually imposed problems sans their rightful estate of Divine Intelligence.

It is the prideful, unhealthy, "conditioned" ego which seeks to be a "god in its own right" that is bound to the worship of fragmented reflections which abound in dualistic conceptually ridden, blind Intellects. It accounts for the "blind to be led by the blind" -- for the "few to rule the many."

Many are outraged by my use of the *word* CHRIST. Yet few understand what I MEAN by it.

A Christ is a man/woman of Truth. It has always been, is now, and will forever BE SO.

Truth is the unmistakable essence of WHAT IS. It stands alone. It resonates with an original holistic (nondualistic) vibration unmatched and unattainable by lesser, conflicted dualistic energies of Intellectualism. As such, it stands as a mirror to all who are not whole human beings.

Another word for a CHRIST is a "Child of God." The essence which resonates atone with the unmistakable essence of the indefinable Infinite one calls GOD.

Another word for a CHRIST, a more "down to earth" word, is that individual who resonates in Spirit as a SOVEREIGN human being. The state of Sovereignty is Holistic. A Sovereign Consciousness enables men like a simple carpenter who lived some 2000 years ago to be regarded as "King of the Jews."

But what is a King? And why was this simple carpenter labeled as such by his fellow man?

Perhaps the following excerpt from my book "Journey Beyond Thought: Breaking the Bonds of the Conditioned Mind " will shine the "Light of Truth" upon it.

"This man Jesus, in reference to the civilized world of His time, said that He was "in this world, but not of it." He admitted to being on the outside of the structured society of His time, living in a state of noncontradiction, a state of Love. He coexisted with the law. His relationship was one of abiding with, but not being solely bound to the confines of man's law."

"His was a relationship of fulfillment, not protest, not resistance."

"He preached "Resist not Evil." Resistance to anything gives strength to that which is resisted. It increases the contradiction within oneself and destroys one's inner peace, which is Love. When there is Love, there is intelligence. When intelligence is operating, there is harmony, an atonement with all. He spoke to the people of His time about the spiritual equality of man. This, ultimately, is what led to His death."

"What happens when there is a state of Oneness with all? There is no longer the duality of greater and lesser, there is just "What Is." When one looks at another man while in that state of atonement, the other is perceived to be neither superior nor inferior. In that state of Oneness, authority does not exist."

" In the time of Jesus, what kind of a man would view himself to have no authority over him? ONLY A KING! For would not all others consider themselves to be subject to the ruling authority? This led to the charge of blasphemy, which carried with it the label of "King of the Jews."

"The only crime committed on that day was the execution of an uncivilized mind by civilized society. The Man's death was a tribute to the state of wholeness and Love. That Love truly was the example of Christ's life and death. For with His final breaths of life, He uttered, "Forgive them Father, for they know not what they do." His last concern appeared to have been for the ignorance of those who were not aware of their true nature."

"The uncivilized mind is seen to be nonpersonal, unfragmented, nonjudgmental. It is not concerned with the me, the ego. It has the intelligence of self-ending. It is capable of functioning well within the technical area, but it does not spill over into the psychological realm. In doing so, it does not get trapped in illusory thought patterns. It, therefore, is a free mind, a nondualistic mind which is capable of adapting and flowing with the stream of life that is ever-changing. Yet, it remains stable and clear in its perception of "What Is."

"The uncivilized mind is the mind grounded in common sense: the sense that is common to all minds. This common sense links one to the Universal Mind that is shared by all. One's common sense can only be relinquished in response to the pressures of conditioning. It is traded off in return for the acquisition of knowledge, which tethers a mind that is in search of security. Through the temptation of doubt, its wholeness and simplicity are given up in return for the promise of more, the pursuit of pleasure, power, and the fulfillment of its desires. It becomes lost when caught in the state of becoming, in goal setting. These are the mind's escapes that are readily provided in order to divert one's attention. This diversion, found in the mindful state of becoming, is nothing more than the seduction of being drawn away from the reality of "What Is" and thrust into one's projected fantasy of what should be. This psychological mechanism is what produces the endless effort, pain, and struggle that we know to be life. This is the cost to one who is living in a civilized world."

"It is only the uncivilized mind that is in this world but not of it. It is the "outsider" who poses a threat to the authority of his time. It is the mind that is based in Love, in understanding, Oneness with all. It is the mind of the entity that can "Love his neighbor as himself," for in the state of Oneness, the neighbor is himself. It is the mind that does not resist evil; for evil is only an idea that is the opposite of the idea of good, fed by one's own energy. Good needs evil and evil needs good in order to maintain their very existence. In the state of common sense, there is no judgment; therefore there is no good and evil. There is only "What Is," a state of harmony and order; and one is able to deal with everything they face, effortlessly. One truly is free. That is what Jesus meant when He declared, "The Kingdom of Heaven is at hand." It is here, now, this moment, this instant!"

Who amongst you can grasp the Truth of the above statements? If WE lived such TRUTH, would not our world be a different place for all concerned?

I write about Mind Control. All who are subject to fragmented belief systems inculcated into them by their mind controlling handlers, be they political or religious, or their own parents who are also ignorant of their TRUE SELVES, are servants to "SATAN, the Opposer"; in other words, to their own Satanically-directed Intellect.

Does that make a Christian a Satanist? Look deeply into energy of the above communicated TRUTH for yourself. Let the TRUTH reveal itself to you. Look not to another for a "pat answer"; for if you do, surely your mind will be controlled by such outside "authority."

I have offended many on and off the Internet who have misunderstood my message due to such far reaching and penetrating political and religious mind conditioning.

The only question of any consequence to all who read this is for them to answer the following questions for themselves: "WHO AND WHAT IS IT THAT I (the reader) SERVE? Do I (the reader), in fact, serve GOD, or merely the idea of God; i.e., SATAN?!!

Shocking, isn't it?

It is time for an AWAKENING.

The world of "civilized man" is ruled by the Satanic few who rule the many. It is the dark force which permeates our world as the elitist few now seek to consolidate their power in a NEW WORLD ORDER.

Is it a helpless, hopeless situation for mankind?

FAR FROM IT!!!

There are MORE of US than there are of THEM. We are the producers. They are the manipulators. We are Sovereign Beings, not Slaves. They ARE NOT our masters.

We have the power to CHANGE OUR WORLD in the blink of an eternal eye!

Each of you ALREADY understand intuitively which momentum guides you in your present state of consciousness and its ultimate outcome.

So the question remains, why do you live the life you are now living? Life's momentum can be changed INSTANTLY by YOU. For indeed, YOU ARE LIFE itself. You are CHRISTS, even though you presently suffer from Amnesia.

In civilized society, which is invented (not created) by the Satanically-driven dualism-based Intellect, one inevitably "chooses" to live their life in HELL. One has been seduced by the Satanic Intellect away from his/her True Estate of Divine Intelligence -- CHRIST CONSCIOUSNESS.

In such a Satanically-ruled, fragmented, partial realm of consciousness, time is invented and the "eternal" moment of NOW is filtered through and imprisoned by the aftermoment-based realm of thought. The aftermoment is clearly observable to be of the past conceptually-interpreted living moment of NOW.

The past is a DEAD thing. It is found nowhere but in the dead, mechanical instrument of the dualistic, concept-bound Intellect. Thus one finds Civilized Society is a dualism based Hell on Earth -- inhabited, supported, and worshipped by the "Living Dead."

In Hell, the dualistic thought-based realm ruled by a Satanically-Driven Intellect, ALL perceptions are filtered through concepts which manifest opposition, confusion, violence, and power. Familiar? It should be. For most of you reading this -- THIS IS YOUR LIFE!!

In such an "artificial pseudoexistence," bereft of wholeness and love, emerges the spectre of the Leaders and the Led, the Haves and the Have Nots, the Masters and the Slaves.

Those who set the momentum have control over those who follow the momentum laid out for them. Thus the leaders and the led, regardless of their position of power or lack thereof, voluntarily give up their personal sovereignty, their wholeness as Spiritual Beings, independent and Free, in order to don the cloak of the codependent HELL BOUND. Why? So that they may achieve the Satanic Intellect's promise that they too may become "gods" in their own right.

This simplicity is beyond the ken of the average civilized human being who in the past has shown repeatedly that they choose death over life when given the opportunity. This is the "silly intentional sacrifice called martyrdom" found in every bloody revolution which has plagued mankind since his "Fall from Grace."

All the while, the leaders still maintain their power, their momentum over the led, by creating more crises which impact the lives of their value-producing, codependent followers by imposing more and more rules, then using the monies gained through their increased taxes, tithings, and fines against them. The followers, the codependent frustrated slaves dumbed down through a relentless campaign of incremental mind control conditioning, can only seethe with resentment over their impotence while fantasizing with relish their own programmed death wish of a glorious, heroic demise via a bloody revolution.

The answer to this as seen though the average conditioned Hell-bound intellect is that IT IS IMPOSSIBLE to stop the present momentum short of such necessary martyrdom.

In fact, the answer to this is quite simple, direct, and WORLD CHANGING when observed by the "Spiritually Sighted."

STOP THE MOMENTUM SET BY THE LEADERS.

There are millions and millions more of value producing HAVE NOTS than there are of the few HAVES who rule them.

THE SOLUTION -- BOYCOTT, BOYCOTT, BOYCOTT!!!

Take back your "control" of your money. Withdraw from the *Voluntary* withholding tax agreement you have with your employer. Get a full day's pay for a full day's work.

Rescind the fictitious National Debt created through interest owed on valueless paper money. Take your money out of the hands of the "money changers" -- the bankers.

Restructure your government by demanding that it fund its own services through the *Trillions* of dollars it currently has in its coffers through investments outlined in the Comprehensive Annual Financial Report -- CAFR!

Do that, and there need not be a SHOT FIRED in Revolution!

How many of you reading this, who consider yourselves to be Intelligent, are INTELLIGENT ENOUGH TO SEE THIS as a viable solution for mankind's present crisis?

What can you do HERE and NOW? First, if you see the simple Truth of what has been expressed in this article, share it with your loved ones. Then repost the message to all Internet groups you perceive to have an interest in changing our world short of bloody revolution. LET'S GET SERIOUS!! Let us cover the Internet with this simple message of Peace.

Do not SINK to a NEW WORLD ORDER. RISE to a NEW WORLD CONSCIOUSNESS.

Ray Karczewski

Since my posts are actively being censored by unknown persons, and are prevented from reaching my usual newsgroups/forums and GOOGLE Archives (though I continue to post to them), a full complement of my writings may be found by the serious reader on my bulletin board http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialchst.htm at my website. http://www.arkenterprises.com

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Christs and a New World Consciousness or Satanists and a New World Order?!!

Reaction from Oregon wrote:

Mon Aug 20 12:23:33 2001

rfo: It's the God-damned arrogance Ray

rfo: People are riffing your arrogance, as is undoubtedly to be expected. It's perfectly ludicrous, given how little you've done and accomplished in your life, both in terms of education and professional achievements, and given your ironic contempt for everyone around you. For you to attempt to set yourself as some sort of God and attribute the derisive reactions your meglomania inspires to NWO disinformation agents is simply absurd. As for the "contradictions in essence" in the constant spam you post on Townsquare, their name is legion. Your claims of being published in many volumes of Who's Who, about having worked as a professional writer, about having worked as a philosopher, and about your history of domestic abuse have all been definitively disproved by investigation and evidence many times. Pretending this never happened only makes you an increasing target for mockery and parody. In my opinion, you are receiving what you deserve: anyone so wholly self-absorbed, abusive, and fraudulent would do best to learn form his many, many mistakes in life, as opposed to simply reposting the same stupid spam that got him into trouble to begin with.

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Give it a rest, Ray. Yer not all that important, and

Re: Christs/New World Consciousness or Satanists /NWO (Raymond Karczewski)

Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 16:58:22 GMT

From: your rants are not worth reading. (unknown)

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Let all the fraud be exposed I say

Re: But they're obviously worth responding to.

Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 17:22:18 GMT

From: Let the truth be known (unknown)

In this age of shameless "reinvention," reality must kick in from time to time. Ray's lies will be exposed for what they are. Truth is a good thing, and Ray too is accoutnable for his constant lies and fraud.

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How many times are you going to repost this?

bart wrote:

Mon Aug 20 12:31:12 2001

We read this already the first 100,000,000 times you posted it. If you're trying to unload your vanity tapes, it's obviously not working: if you couldn't get anyone to take that stuff off your hands in so many years, abusing people on the Internet and re-spamming that abuse thousands of times doesn't nothing but make you look like a crank. Again Ray: this has nothing to do with anything on this board, so feel free to keep your pointless and self-aggrandizing abuse to yourself.

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SATANIC DUALISTIC OPPOSER CONTROLLED IGNORAMUS (FORGERY rk)

Re: How many timeas are you going to re-post this? (bart)

Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 18:11:23 GMT

From: Raymond "Whee! Look at me!!!: Karczewski (unknown)

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Marketing advice for Raymond Karczewski

Re: He is, He's trying to unload vanity tapes (Couldn't pay me enough to take them Ray)

Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 18:07:04 GMT

From: Never let them see it coming (unknown)

I too would like to see this interminable repetition of pointless advertising come to a very belated end. My advice is clear: do NOT post any of the actual content of your tapes. Once people get a load of what you are actually trying to sell, you'll never, ever unload it. Your best bet is to play off their ignorance of who you are, of the bankrupt nature of what you're trying to hawk, and by the time they realize what they wasted their money on, they'll have no right to a refund. Just be done with this inane repetition of the same damned post already, O.K.?

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What censorhip???????

Re: Ray doesn't spam -- he mass-posts on forums. (Logomania at it's very best!)

Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 17:53:19 GMT

From: Oregonian (unknown)

Townsquare is lousy, simply lousy with your constant spam Ray. Where do you get the idea even for a minute that you could possibly be being censored, given how much space you waste here with your weird cross-posted fights on other forums, and vain attempts to unload your self-indulgent egofests. Reality check Ray: if you were being censored, your posts wouldn't be here. Period. As it is, you're running off at the mouth, strictly repeating the same stupid threats and paranoia, and it is all archived for the world to see. I just wonder why you would want to make such a screaming public display of ignorance and aggression.

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He is, He's trying to unload vanity tapes

Re: It sounds like he's a salesman. (Chris)

Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 17:41:57 GMT

From: Couldn't pay me enough to take them Ray (unknown)

Ray made a bunch of audio tapes and a short pamphlet which he paid to have copied several years ago, and can't get anyone to take that stuff off his hands. That's the point of the spam and never-ending re-re-re-re-re-spam here: he's trying to abuse people into giving him money for worthless stuff he's taking a bath on. I can't even begin to account for the faulty logic here, but this is Ray we're talking about. He's about the biggest, most meglomanical kook on the Internet. Go figure!

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If Earth is Hell, and Christ is long gone,

Re: Christs/New World Consciousness or Satanists /NWO (Raymond Karczewski)

Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 17:53:53 GMT

From: then Why are YOU here? (unknown)

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Because he has amnesia

Re: If Earth is Hell, and Christ is long gone, (then Why are YOU here?)

Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 18:46:28 GMT

From: Explains sooooo much (unknown)

That would also explain why Ray's completely forgotten what it is to be decent, compassionate, honest, and self-effacing like the real Christ. Maybe a good knock upside the head would help jog his memory?

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No. It started with government plots in Pacifica.

Re: Folks -- it all started with a traffic violation a few (years ago...seriously.)

Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 21:44:14 GMT

From: GET THIS GUY'S GUNS AWAY FROM HIM (unknown)

Ray obsessively attended city council meetings, where he accused the municipal government and local cops of carrying out a conspiracy against him when they forcibly retired him. Sound like anything familiar? This has been going on for 30 years. At least they took his guns from him in California. He apparently went out and got more, and has threatened to take them to the streets. There is no helping this guy short of locking him away where he can do no harm. I'm all for it.

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The irony is, that without the Internet...

Re: There's hope

Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 22:06:21 GMT

From: (unknown)

which Ray loves to rail against -- along with mind-control and censorship and whatever -- were it NOT for the 'net, Ray would likely be REALLY dangerous. He would write letters to authorities (although he probably does that anyway), and they could come looking for him, and there could be some sort of standoff. I believe that the Internet gives him an outlet for his psychosis, and saves him from such consequences. As for Greg...he is actually mentioned by name on Ray's website. If you want to know Ray, you must read his own words -- here's a link to a truly frightening page from his website, where his mania is laid bare for all the world to see: http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialchs5.htm

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Can't. It's analytically impossible.

Re: Don't threaten his demetia, he will only escape (deeper into his private Hell.)

Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 21:34:16 GMT

From: Ray revels in his psychosis and hate (unknown)

Ray revels in his sickness, and NEEDS to attack others just to feel alive. There is nothing to which he can sink any lower than this. I stopped feeling sorry for him long ago, and now hope the authorities get him the hell off the streest before he hurts someone in his psychosis.

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Sick is one thing. Dangerous and out for revenge is another

Re: The man is sick, plain and simple. (Pandering to him will make him worse.)

Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 21:37:26 GMT

From: I want him away from my family, now. (unknown)

If he gets bad enough, maybe the mental health authorities in Josephine County will finally do the responsible thing and slam him into an asylum. He's been festering like this for years now, and has attacked too many people in that time to be tolerated as yet another Internet kook. I want him away from my family. Now.

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IT IS TIME to forcibly commit you. That's what time it is.

Re: Mind Control/Disinformation Agents (Raymond Karczewski)

Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 21:15:44 GMT

From: Stop your assaults and be responsible (unknown)

Why are you posting the same damned messages scores of times here Ray? No one cared in March about this brainless post, and we care even less now (if that's possible).The only thing it's time for is to forcibly commit you, and make you stop the incessant and groundless assaults you launch daily against people who won't pander to your delusions of godness and persecution. If you refuse to accept responsibility for yourself, society may have to force it on you. You ought to be ashamed for acting like such an adolescent at such a terribly advanced age. No wonder your family cut you off. I can't imagine what you put them through.

rk: I suggest you affix your true identity to the committment papers and take responsibility for you libelous comments, then, in view of all the FORGERIES floating around under my name, PROVE that I am indeed the one posted the article you are presently complaining about then fully expect that you and the other signator needed for such committment will be held responsible for such actions.

rk: The Internet awaits your next move!!!

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Gotcha, Moron.

Re: ATTENTION: FORGERY! (Raymond Karczewski)

Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 23:31:57 GMT

From: IceNine (icenine@locnetwork.com)

Yeah, it's been me ripping your posts to shreds for about the past week. And I must say, the quality of your posts have done nothing but improve after I've taken over for you. I must admit that not even I thought that I could come even close to matching your braggadocio word for word, but after a week, several copycat posts, and actually getting a few people to bite the hook, I thought I'd come clean. After all, It's not like you actually have the stones to DO anything about it, Coward. i9 http://locnetwork.com The Left Of Center InterNetwork

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The irony is...

Re: The irony is, that without the Internet...

Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 22:15:11 GMT

From: Only mind controller here is Ray (unknown)

Ray's the only one desperately trying to control minds around here, all the while railing about government disinformation agents attempting the very thing he alone has been doing for years. I think Ray's just too far gone to even begin to understand or control his own psychotic behavior. If he's armed, call the police. One good face to face armed confrontation with the cops and I'll bet Ray does some cooling off time in a state hospital. With any luck, he'll do more than that. Anita too should be looked into. She's more than a mere enabler in my opinion, and approaches vicious harpie in her refusal to get her husband the emergency medical attention he so obviously needs.

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What is a Perpetrator

Joseph Keeney joseph.keeney@usa.net wrote:

Mon Aug 20 12:36:27 2001

jk: The Perpetrators

jk: Who would want this job?

jk: What is a Perpetrator?

jk: A Pepertrator is one who has been trained to federal standards, either directly or indirectly, to harass, torture, maim, and kill a Target, either by direct means, or by covert means including, electronic, biological, or"accidental" means.

jk: And how may a perpetrator be identified?

jk: Mostly by their actions. If the Perps are doing their job, they will reveal themselves.

jk: Look for the following:

jk: Irrational Hatred: Hatred of the Target for no rational reason. When pressed as to why they hate the Target, the Perp will give a really lame excuse like: "I don't like your luggage." Or something else just as stupid and illogical. The Perp is not going to tell the Target the real reason because they are being paid to hate the target. It is that particular Perp's job assignment to hate the Target. That is how they earn their paycheck. This can be inconsequential unless that Perp happens to be married to the Target's best friend or a family member. The ultimate goal is to destroy the Target's relationship with that person and isolate the Target from friends and family.

jk: Eventually, this will work in most cases.

jk: Hidden Agenda: Perps pretend to be going about doing ordinary things; however, careful observation will reveal a different agenda than most folks. Perps follow the Target into a place of business, then spend most of the time crowding the Target's space, and sometimes wind up doing very little business with the establishment. The Perp's follow the Target out the door and appear to leave. Observation sometimes reveals, they circle the block and come back, as that establishment is their assignment for a period of time that day.

jk: Visage devoid of soul: The longer a perp has been in this vile business, the less human they become. This is especially true of those who have made this their life-long career. Career Perps are required to do evil to Targets everyday without feeling remorse. This is a job requirement and inevitably results in a hardened, cold face, lacking in compassion. Some of the Targets report this as being most helpful in early identification of Perps.

jk: Who are the Perpetrators?

jk: 1. Perps who apply for the job:

jk: Perps who apply are usually people who can't find a real job. They just don't have what it takes to succeed on their own. Perps don't have to be smart. Anyone can be a Perp and make easy money, all they have to do is:

jk: a. Follow orders

jk; b. Never admit the truth

jk: This type of perp usually does not advance, but will, nonetheless; have job security for as long as the American people continue turn a blind eye to the illicit activities of their Government.

jk: 2. Perps who are recruited for the job:

jk: Anyone can be recruited. Many people turn to the dark side and join this vast network of evil. Homeless people, rich people, retarded people, addicts, alcoholics, young, old, geniuses, morons, people of any profession, people of all faiths and persuasions. Anyone desiring a place in this dark madness may have one. The most disappointing and pathetic of all are the christians. There are a quite a lot of "pretend-a-christians" involved in this conspiracy who have been tricked into joining.

jk: These Pretend-a-Christians attend more Perp meetings than Christian meetings and go about the day serving the dark side by heaping misery on Targeted Individuals.

jk: Convinced that Christians are god's chosen; and therefore, chosen to decide who is undesirable and who isn't and who will live and who will die. How this is done is inconsequential. These type of Perps mean well but will continue to do evil until they truly find God.

jk: 3. Perps who enjoy sado-machostic actives:

jk: This type of Perp has found Perpdom to be the fulfillment of a life long dream. How else can anyone commit trespass, burglary, slander, vandalism, terrorism, drugging, rape, abduction, and even murder without being called to task? This power hungry Perp enjoys inflicting pain on the target and feeds off their fear. This Perp definitely has a life long career with our evil and Satanic Government and will advance far up the ladder to become part of the management team.

jk: How could anyone be "forced" into Perpdom?

jk: Anyone can be tricked into joining in the torture of the Targets by the following means:

jk: Lies: The Perp is told the Target is a drug pusher, terrorist, homosexual, socialist, or jew, muslim, Democrat, etc. It is easy to find out where the Perp's "hot buttons" are and push them in order to motivate them to do things that may be against their moral beliefs. The information may not be conveyed directly, but rather inferred. Even so, this will work on a subliminal level until finally, in the Perp's mind, the Target is trash and therefore, does not deserve to live. Perps are brainwashed to believe "the end justifies the means", that is, some people will have to be done away with in order to make the world a better place to live. The message is "we know what is best for society and what kind of person deserves to live in the new world order." How this is done is inconsequential.

jk: Co-ercion: Threats to the person or their family members, pets, or friends. Usually this does not come in the form of a verbal threat. Threats can be implied. The death of a pet, terrorist break-ins, street theater continually crowding the Targets space or implying threats. I have watched at least one really good person become real co-operative and join this evil network after his daughter was involved in a suspicious car wreck. Seems the guy crossed two lanes of traffic to hit her. Perps are also able to infiltrate and cause on the job harassment, loss of job, and blacklisting so that regardless of the qualifications, the Target cannot find employment.

jk: Either-OR: Either you work for us or you are going to jail. The number of Perps forcibly recruited in this manner is not known. Some of our callers report that a background check on the Perps will often result in the discovery of a criminal record. These Perps usually start out as informants, and advance into street theater if they can stay out of trouble. That is why some of the Perps appear to have been drug addicts with no history of legal employment. The Government has found a recruiters gold mine in the mandatory sentencing laws for minor drug offenses. Of course, these involuntary Perps will never be free. They will serve a lifetime of perpdom because anyone who tries to leave, will meet with an accident or die of "natural causes."

jk: Who would want this job?

jk: Perps are often recruited from broken Targets who finally just give up after months or years of harassment and veiled threats to their family and friends. Usually, the Target cannot hold a job due to continual Perpetrator influence; ie, infiltration of the job site, sabotage, continual vandalization of the Target's mode of transportation, etc. It is easier to join evil than to resist. Eventually, evil becomes fun, a high, and those who delight in it are turned forever to the dark side.

jk: Why would anyone want to be a perpetrator?

jk: Most new Perps are in it for the money and training for a new career. They have a sense of belonging to an elite group, privy to information that others do not have. They may be told they are ridding the world of "undesirables" (people with unconventional attitudes). As they work their way from informant to orchestrator,

jk: Perps become privy to more and more information. They are carefully groomed and hardened so that as they inflict more and more pain on the Targeted Individuals, they feel no remorse. Perps are convinced Targets are just dumb smucks who don't deserve to live anyway.

jk: Perps are trained not to question why someone is undesirable, only to follow orders and observe the rules of secrecy. Therefore, it does not matter what kind of person the Perp is asked to target, the Perp is to obey without question.

jk:Perps are trained in street theater, then become informants, then agent provocateurs, then move up to orchestrator. The longer a Perp has been in the program, the less conscience and humanity the Perp will retain. Long time Perps are usually easy to identify. The daily schedule of continuos evil doing eventually leaves them with a visage devoid of soul.

jk: Convinced they are part of an elite group whose destiny it is to shape the world into what they have been brainwashed to believe is a better place, Perpetrators are willing to do anything for the cause. Even murder, so long as they can't be caught. This is easily accomplished with Directed Energy Weapons. These devices can be directed to single out one person, causing sleep depravation and permanent damage to the body. Eventually the Target dies, apparently from natural causes. The perfect crime has been committed. No one really knows how many victims the Perps have killed because most Doctors cannot recognize the symptoms of Directed Energy Weapons (DEW)

"The ideal tyranny is that which is ignorantly self-administered by its victims. The most perfect slaves are, therefore, those which blissfully and unawaredly enslave themselves." -- Dresden James

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