I'll not pander to slave-minded IGNORAMUSES on the Internet. You've already had five years of my life devoted to exposing the ignorance of the conditioned Intellect.

Enough is Enough!

IT IS TIME for ALL to WAKE UP or FACE THE CONSEQUENCES of their present inert state of conditioned consciousness.

For those who have seen the simple, inarguable Truths expressed in my writings, and are willing to risk the personal consequences of openly mirroring the corruption of our present way of life, NOW is the time for your public contribution.

I am calling for a Spiritual Revolution of Consciousness, not a Political Revolution which can only bring bloodshed to humanity at an unprecedented level.

I am asking that mankind RISE to a New World Consciousness, not DESCEND to a "New World Order."

To those of you who have the eyes to see and the ears to hear, IT IS TIME for you to put sufficient pressure upon your elected Federal/State governmental officials to act responsibly in adherence with their own publicly sworn oath to support our US Constitution.

IT IS TIME for spiritual brothers and sisters to make themselves known at this time of crisis within our country, to hold accountable their public servants who seek not to serve but to rule.

IT IS A TIME for action by all who understand this NATION cannot continue to exist if it continues to follow in its present "One World Order" course.

IT IS TIME to FORCE the FBI to publicly bring forth the results of their Investigation into my criminal complaint lodged with their Medford, Oregon office on November 2nd, 1997 regarding the issue of government/media supported/sponsored mind control/disinformation activities being conducted against their own Internet using U.S. citizenry.

IT IS TIME for US Citizens to demonstrate their personal sovereignty by BOYCOTTING a *NO CHOICE* Election System or face the consequences of the inevitable slavery which awaits them.

Let the TRUE SPIRIT of America make itself known to the World.

Remove the 1 1/2 year-long White House, Congressional, and FBI STONE WALL of Silence erected over this issue of utmost importance. Before you vote, make sure you get a specific answer to it from ALL of the Presidential Candidates on the Campaign Trail.

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Posted by Joe on October 21, 2000 at 08:46:56:

Posted by SECRET COMBINATIONS on October 21, 2000 at 10:28:22:

Raymond Karczewski (arkent@arkenterprises.com)wrote:

rk: Here is just one example which points to the motivation and the enormous time, effort, and focus spent by these Internet disinformation agents who seek to draw public attention away from the simple, inarguable truths contained in my posts.

rk: In two days it will be 13 months (395 days) since I allowed my Oregon Driver's License to expire and reclaimed my Inalienable Right to Liberty which includes my right to travel upon the public roadways in my private automobile for private (non-commercial) purposes without being subject to government licensing procedure designed toward regulation of Commercial "motor vehicles."

rk: In that time, despite the high profile the issue has been given on these Internet newsgroups/forums and my personal correspondence specific to the issue at hand with my county District Attorney and Sheriff, I have not been stopped, arrested, or interfered with in any way by any Oregon Law Enforcement officer when travelling the Oregon roadways in my private automobile for private purposes/tramsportation. Therein lies the "rest of the story."

rk: One may also ask, what relevance does my web site order page have to do with my original article regarding the issue of elections, freedom and individual sovereignty? Quite a misdirection, is it not?

rk: The entire "lengthy" argument below, which joe places before a gullible public, is moot since it applies only to the operation of MOTOR VEHICLES.

See: http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~karl/govt/driver/driver.html

"There is a clear distinction between an automobile and a motor vehicle. An automobile has been defined as:

"The word `automobile' connotes a pleasure vehicle designed for the transportation of persons on highways. "American Mutual Liability Ins. Co., vs. Chaput, 60 A.2d 118, 120; 95 NH 200.

The term `motor vehicle' is different and broader than the word `automobile.'" City of Dayton vs. DeBrosse, 23 NE.2d 647, 650; 62 Ohio App. 232.

The distinction is made very clear in Title 18 USC 31:

"Motor vehicle" means every description or other contrivance propelled or drawn by mechanical power and used for commercial purposes on the highways in the transportation of passengers, or passengers and property.

"Used for commercial purposes" means the carriage of persons or property for any fare, fee, rate, charge or other considerations, or directly or indirectly in connection with any business, or other undertaking intended for profit.

"Clearly, an automobile is private property in use for private purposes, while a motor vehicle is a machine which may be used upon the highways for trade, commerce, or hire.

rk: At any rate, there is at least one person sufficiently awake to call joe on his deception. Read SECRET COMBINATIONS' response below.

rk: I cut and pasted joe's "cut and pasted" argument AS IS! Note the "no-break" block style designed to disuade even the most "serious" reader from plowing through it, let alone the "one-liner" ignoramuses who proliferate on these newsgroups/forums.

rk: A daunting task, is it not? That is a favorite mind control technique lawyers use when manipulating jurors.

rk: Pay attention to the next trial you attend.

rk: Watch as the jurors are inundated with minutia, bored to the point of falling asleep. At the end of days and sometimes weeks of this hypnotic lulling, spinning their web, confusing the hell out of jurors, lawyers then are able to pull the rug out from under them, disrupt their hypnotic spell, in summing up with closing arguments which are brimming with charm, seduction, and highly suggestive phrases/words which subconsciously stick in the minds of jurors. They close their case much like a salesman who is closing a sale.

rk: The jurors, who are tired, bored, and wish to get back to their mundane routines ultimately take the path of "least resistance" to peer pressure. Their vote more often than not is not based on the facts but on the "subconscious emotional reactions" seeded during the trial by the better hypnotist, i.e., lawyer.

rk: So much for our "revered" legal system where personal freedoms and even lives hang in the balance of such inculcated ignorance. Who amongst you see that our courtroom "Trial by Jury" tradition is the epitome of an exploitable "Mind Control Experiment" which abundantly rewards the "officers of the courts" (lawyers, judges, supporting staff, etc.) and has dire consequences for those unfortunate enough to be caught in the "Web of Words."

rk: Take a close look the next time you find yourself in court. Pay attention. If you are aware enough to see beyond the images of power specifically designed to intimidate and induce capitulation, you will understand the controlling nature of, by, and for the Hell-bound.

Re: It Is TIME. . . To place an order!

Posted by Joe on October 21, 2000 at 08:46:56:

In Reply to: It Is TIME. . . ! posted by Raymond Karczewski on October 21, 2000 at 04:00:55:

The motive is always very clear $$$$$$$$$$$$ !

j: It Is TIME. . . (to send me your money!)

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IDIOT LEGAL ARGUMENTS relating to traffic laws: state govt can restrict driving on the public roads to drivers with valid current licenses, and restrict drivers to vehicles registered as having passed inspection, notwithstanding argument about a "right to travel". Hendrick v. Maryland (1915) 235 US 610 (a state may restrict the use of its highways to drivers who have complied with the license, insurance and vehicle registration laws of this state or, if the driver is a non-resident, of his home state); Bell v. Burson (1971) 402 US 535 (state statute which denies or suspends drivers license for failure to carry insurance or comparable financial responsibility does not violate constitution); (this authority to prescribe reasonable requisites for the "privilege" of driving on the public highways is inherent in state and local govts) State v. Booher (Tenn.Crim.App 1997) 978 SW2d 953 ("the appellant asserts that the state ... has unduly infringed upon his 'right to travel' by requiring licensing and registarion .... However, contrary to his assertions, at no time did the State of Tennessee place constraints upon the appellant's exercise of this right. His right to travel ... remains unimpeded.... Rather, based upon the context of his argument, the appellant asserts an infringement upon his right to operate a motor vehicle on the public highways of this state. This notion is wholly separate from the right to travel. The ability to drive a motor vehicle on a public highway is not a fundamental 'right'. Instead, it is a revocable 'privilege' that is granted upon compliance with statutory licensing procedures."); Quackenbush v. Superior Court (1997) 60 Cal.App.4th 454, 70 Cal.Rptr.2d 271 (state can require insurance for drivers licenses); ditto (state has legitimate interest in requiring financial responsibility of drivers) Berberian v. Lussier (1958) 87 RI 226, 139 A2d 869 (this crank, a lawyer who was evidently his own favorite client and eventually got himself disbarred for threatening to bomb the courthouse, Carter v. Berberian (RI 1981) 442 A2d 1263, later got his 13 year old son to sue over the age requirement for learners permits, see below); see generally essay, Validity of Motor Vehicle Financial Responsibility Act, 35 ALR2d 1011 & suppl.; Guerrero v. Ryan (1995) 272 IL.App.3d 945, 209 IL.Dec 408, 651 NE2d 586 app.denied 163 IL.2d 556, 657 NE2d 621 cert.den 516 US 1180 (state can suspend license already issued if lack of insurance is discovered, drivers license not a basic constitutional right); similarly State v. Turk (1982) 197 Mont 311, 643 P2d 224; ditto Berberian v. Lussier (1958) 87 RI 226, 139 A2d 869; (cannot evade insurance requirement by religious objections) State v. Cosgrove (So.Dak. 1989) 439 NW2d 119 cert.den 493 US 846; similarly State v. Skurdal (1988) 235 Mont 291, 767 P2d 304 ("This is obviously a growing school of thought which had been misguided.... The notion of right to travel remains wholly separate from the right or privilege to operate a motor vehicle on the public highways." The court made a point of discussing many of the crank arguments against requiring drivers licenses; evidently the crank notion is not only are the licensing requirements inapplicable to them but also speed limits); similarly City of Bismarck v. Stuart (No.Dak 1996) 546 NW2d 366 ("No court has ever held that it is an impermissible infringement upon a citizen's constitutional Right to Travel for the legislature to decree that ... every person who operates a motor vehicle on public roads must have a valid operator's license.... The legislature has the constitutional police power to ensure safe drivers and safe roads."); similarly City of Salina v. Wisden (Utah 1987) 737 P2d 981 ("Mr. Wisden's assertion that the right to travel encompasses 'the unrestrained use of the highway' is wrong. The right to travel granted by the state and federal constitutions does not include the ability to ignore laws governing the use of public roadways. The motor vehicle code was promulgated to increase the safety and efficiency of our public roads. It enhances rather than infringes on the right to travel. The ability to drive a motor vehicle on a public roadway is not a fundamental right; it is a privilege that is granted upon the compliance with the statutory licensing procedures."); similarly ("The right to operate a motor vehicle is wholly a creation of state law; it certainly is not explicitly guaranteed by the Constitution, and nothing in that document or in our state constitution has even the slightest appearance or an implicit guarantee of that right. The plaintiff's argument that the right to operate a motor vehicle is fundamental because of its relation to the fundamental right of interstate travel ... is utterly frivolous. The plaintiff is not being prevented from traveling interstate by public transportation, by common carrier, or in a motor vehicle driven by someone with a license to drive it. What is at issue here is not his right to travel interstate, but his right to operate a motor vehicle on the public highways, and we have no hesitation in holding that this is not a fundamental right.") Berberian v. Petit (RI 1977) 374 A2d 791, 86 ALR3d 468 (this case was a 13-year-old boy challenging the age requirement for learners permits, the court quoted from a 1958 decision involving his father's challenge to the requirement for motorists insurance); similarly Jones v. City of Newport (1989) 29 Ark.App 42, 780 SW2d 338; similarly Azubuko v. Registrar of Motor Vehicles (1st Cir unpub 9/3/96) cert.den 520 US 1157; ditto (state can require drivers license, vehicle registration, display of license plate, etc., notwithstanding argument about "right to travel") State v. Weisman (Minn.App unpub 11/1/88) cert.den 489 US 1080; ditto Maxfield v. Corwin (WD Mich unpub 3/17/87); ditto ("While there exists a fundamental right to travel, neither this court, nor our [state] supreme court, nor the US Supreme Court has ever held that there exists a fundamental right to drive a moter vehicle." State can require display of official registration tag, and that driver present police with valid license and car registration, even against purported religious objections, and can punish for use of homemade license plate) Terpstra v. State (Ind.App 1988) 529 NE2d 839; ditto City of Spokane v. Port (1986) 43 Wash.App 273, 716 P2d 945 revw.den 106 Wash.2d 1010; State v. Patterson (Kan.App unpub 2/14/92) review den (Kan. Supm 1992) 250 Kan 807; ditto US ex rel Verdone v. Circuit Court for Taylor County (7th Cir 1995) 73 F3d 669; similarly Commonwealth v. Levy (1961) 194 Penn.Super 390, 169 A2d 596; see especially essay, Validity of statute making it a criminal offense for operator of motor vehicle not to carry or display his license or registration, 6 ALR3d 506 & suppl.); similarly (right to "property" does not enable perp to drive his car despite its lack of registration, safety inspection, license plate, drivers license, etc., nor to prevent it from being impounded until he complies with the licensing laws) Wisden v. City of Salina (Utah 1985) 709 P2d 371; similarly (perp already had an SSN but refused, supposedly on religious grounds, to provide it to apply for drivers license and thereby refused to renew or carry drivers license on religious grounds; "The appellant advised [the policewoman] that he could not be arrested because her God was not as big as his God. He referred to her as 'an agent of the socialist govt ...", court held the state had sufficient reasons to require SSNs for drivers licenses and that, since driving without a license is a crime, religious fastidiousness could not excuse a criminal act) State v. Loudon (Tenn.Crim.App 1993) 857 SW2d 878; similarly (when cranks already have SSNs but refuse to reveal them for drivers licenses applications, supposedly on religious grounds) Penner v. King (Mo.Supm 1985) 695 SW2d 887; similarly (refused to reveal SSNs for drivers license on privacy grounds, citing various laws on non-disclosure of SSNs, court held that state could require disclosure of SSN on license application) Nowlin v DMV (1997) 53 Cal.App.4th 1529, 62 Cal.Rptr.2d 409; if state law requires the SSN on the license application then the use of the SSN is not optional and an applicant who fails to provide his SSN will thereby be refused a license. Schmidt v. Powell (IL App 1972) 4 IL.App.3d 34, 280 NE2d 236; Ostric v. Board of Appeals on Motor Vehicle Policies (Mass 1972) 361 Mass 459, 280 NE2d 692; similarly (crank claimed to have unilaterally revoked his SSN and tried to invoke state law that would permit an individual without an SSN to obtain a drivers license upon submission of a federal govt document attesting to the lack of a Soc.Sec. number or account for that person, at least the individual's own assertion without the federal documentation was insufficient; the court noted that driving on the public roads is a privilege, not a right nor a contract, and the state may impose reasonable conditions upon that privilege and someone too fastidious to meet those conditions would not obtain the privilege) Hershey v. Commonwealth Dept of Transportation (Penn.Commonw.Ct 1995) 669 A2d 517 app.den 544 Penn 664, 676 A2d 1202; ditto Kocher v. Bickley (Penn.Commonw.Ct 1999) 722 A2d 756; similarly (state can insist on SSN to obtain a drivers license and apparently not required to offer alternatives to someone with religious objections to having an SSN) McDonald v. Alabama Dept of Public Safety (Alab.Civ.App unpub 4/9/99); ditto Miller v. Reed (9th Cir 1999) 176 F3d 1202 (and quoting from Bowen v. Roy, 1986, 476 US 693, which upheld an AFDC requirement that welfare payments would not be paid for children whose parents did not provide the child's SSN, notwithstanding the parents' religious objections to SSNs, and without offering an alternative); requirement of SSN to obtain a drivers license did not infringe on religious rights, because the "plaintiffs may preserve their religious scruples intact by foregoing this privilege [of driving on the public roads]. It is for them to balance the resulting inconvenience." Penner v. King (Mo. 1985) 695 SW2d 887; similarly, "The state of Missouri, by making the licensing requirements in question, is not prohibiting Davis from expressing or practicing his religious beliefs or from traveling throughout this land. If he wishes, he may walk, ride a bicycle or horse, or travel as a passenger in an automobile, bus, airplane or helicopter. He cannot, however, operate a moto vehicle on the public highways without ... a valid operator's license." State v. Davis (Mo.App 1988) 745 SW2d 249; (on the other hand, some states have made provision for issuing drivers licenses in special circumstances in which an SSN is unavailable, such as lawfully admitted aliens, with their green cards, who are ineligible for Soc.Sec.) Lauderbach v. Zolin (Cal.App 1995) 35 Cal.App.4th 578, 41 Cal.Rptr.2d 434; similarly (accepting the IRS's Taxpayer Identification Number [TIN] as a substitute for the SSN) Devon Inc. v. State Bureau (Ohio App 1986) 31 Ohio App.3d 130, 508 NE2d 984; ditto (state would accept TIN as a substitute for the SSN and not obliged to create any more alternatives) Kocher v. Bickley (Penn.Commonw.Ct 1999) 722 A2d 756; [the state may also give applicants the option of not having their SSNs appear on their drivers license and the public registry but may stil require the SSN on the applications. Doe v. Registrar of Motor Vehicles (Mass.Super unpub 6/8/93) 1 Mass.L.Rptr 156, 21 Media L.Rptr 2041; and if the drivers license does not display the SSN, a policeman stopping the driver may insist on seeing the driver's Soc.Sec. card when the SSN is required on traffic citations. State v. T.N. Hill (Ohio App. unpub 2/6/92)]; neither right to migrate nor right to a job implies a right to unlicensed driving. Maher v. State (Ind.App 1993) 612 NE2d 1063; (ditto, when crank sent the state letters "rescinding his signature" to all drivers license papers assenting to the state's statutory consent to breathalyzer test this had the effect of cancelling his drivers license, and he was charged with unlicensed driving; moreover, the state's refusal to return his car until he presented a valid license and registration was not a taking without due process) Maxfield v. Corwin (WD Mich unpub 3/17/87); {Note: There are reasons, other than dangerous driving, that a court may use to suspend or revoke drivers licenses; e.g. non-payment of taxes; Wells v. Malloy (D Vt 1975) 402 F.Supp 856 aff'd 538 F2d 317; failure to pay court fines; City of Milwaukee v. Kilgore (Wis.App 1994) 185 Wis.2d 499, 517 NW2d 689; failure to pay child support; Richey v. Richey (La.App 1997) 704 So.2d 343; generally essay, Revocation or Suspension of Drivers License for Reason Unrelated to Motor Vehicle, 18 ALR5th 542 & suppl. Another essay deals with putting conditions upon the reinstatement of a suspended license, such as requiring proof of financial responsibility. 2 ALR5th 725.} ("The right to travel on public highways is not absolute. It is subject to reasonable regulation by the state, pursuant to the police power granted by the Constitution. We have previously held that the motor vehicle codes are a valid use of police power. We have also previously held that requiring automobile insurance coverage and the registration of vehicles is a valid use of the police power and does not violate the due process requirements of the US Constitution.") State v. R.E. Wilson (Mont.Supm unpub 12/3/98); {The references to the "right to travel" in this propaganda turn out to refer to court cases that dealt with restrictions on passports, or on restrictions on out-of-state visitors or newcomers to a state obtaining employment or benefits such as food stamps; cf. G.B. Hartch, Wrong Turns: A critique of the Supreme Court's right to travel cases, 21 Wm. Mitchell Law Rev. 457 (1995). The exercise of state and municipal police powers to regulate and restrict traffic on public roads predates the automobile by at least a half-century, when bicycle riding was restricted to avoid frightening horses; cf. R.D. Perry, The Impact of the Sport of Bicycle Riding on Safety Law, 35 Amer. Business Law Jrnl 185 (1998). In France, the registration of automobiles goes back to 1893, before the first US automobile factory, and in the US, registration of cars dates back to 1901 and the licensing of drivers to 1916, and by the mid-1920s there were, in almost every state, age requirements and other limitations on who could be licensed to operate an automobile, even for personal use; for example, see J. Simon, Driving Governmentality: Automobile accidents, insurance, and the challenge to social order in the inter-war years, 1919 to 1941, 4 Conn. Insur. Law Jrnl 521 (1998). As the US Supreme Court noted in 1915, "The movement of motor vehicles over the highways is attended by constant and serious dangers to the public, and is also abnormally destructive to the [high]ways themselves. ... [A] state may rightfully prescribe uniform regulations necessary for public safety and order in respect to the operation upon its highways of all motor vehicles - those moving in interstate commerce as well as others. ... This is but an exercise of the police power uniformly recognized as belonging to the states and essential to the preservation of the health, safety, and comfort of their citizens." Hendrick v. Maryland (1915) 235 US 610; and in 1927, "Motor vehicles are dangerous machines, and even when skillfully and carefully operated, their use is attended by serious dangers to persons and property. In the public interest the state may make and enforce regulations reasonably calculated to promote care on the part of all, residents and non-residents alike, who use its highways. ... The state's power to regulate the use of its highways extends to their use by non-residents as well as by residents." Hess v. Pawloski (1927) 274 US 352. There is nothing in the cranks' reliance on a "right to travel" to try to exempt themselves from driver license and traffic laws that limits their theory to wheeled vehicles and they might eventually claim an unregulated right to pilot aircraft over cities! Courts have already held that driving without a license or registration is, by itself, indicative of reckless driving; see essay, 29 ALR2d 963 & suppl.} ; (enforcement of traffic laws is not governed by the UCC; speed limits and their enforcement is not a violation of the "right to travel") Barcroft v. State (Tex.App 1994) 881 SW2d 838; ditto (UCC inapplicable to case involving driving unregistered vehicle) Gipson v. Callahan (WD Tex 1997) 18 F.Supp.2d 662; (state can require that vehicle be maintained with current inspection and registration stickers and tags) State v. Kuball (Minn.App unpub 8/15/89); state can require that drivers carry a drivers license, vehicle registration and proof of insurance. City of Billings v. Skurdal (1986) 224 Mont 84, 730 P2d 371 cert.den 481 US 1020; Nowlin v. Dept of Motor Vehicles (1997) 53 Cal.App.4th 1529, 62 Cal.Rptr.2d 409 (state can require applicants for new or renewed license to provide their Soc.Sec numbers and refuse licenses until applicant obtains a Soc.Sec number); ditto Miller v. Reed (9th Cir 1999) 176 F3d 1202; ditto McDonald v. Alabama Dept of Public Safety (Alab.Civ.App unpub 4/9/99); ditto Hersshey v. Commonwealth (Commonw.Ct of Penn 1996) 669 A2d 517 app.denied (Penn Supm unpub 6/4/96) 544 Pa 664, 676 A2d 1202; ditto (and also pretending that accepting a benefit from the state, in the form of a license, is against his religion) Terpstra v. State (Ind.App 1988) 529 NE2d 839; ditto State v. Clifford (1990) 57 Wash.App 127, 787 P2d 571 review denied 114 Wash.2d 1025, 792 P2d 535; ditto State v. Booher (Tenn.Crim.App 1997) 978 SW2d 953; ditto (claiming that his religious beliefs were against registering for a drivers lic) Schmidt v. Powell (IL App 1972) 4 IL.App.3d 34, 280 NE2d 236; ditto (and also pretending that violation of license and registration laws is a victimless crime) State v. Yoder (Ohio App unpub 6/7/95); (police request that driver show them his license and registration and proof of insurance is not a "search" under the Fourth Amendment, the law requires a driver to keep these documents, and driver cannot insist on search warrant) State v. Reed (1984) 107 Ida 162, 686 P2d 842; (ditto, does not violate Fifth Amendment) Sherman v. Babbitt (9th Cir 1985) 772 F2d 1476; (ditto, does not violate First Amendment religious rights) Terpstra v. State (Ind.App 1988) 529 NE2d 839; (as part of a justifiable traffic stop, the police can instruct the driver to step out of his car) Pennsylvania v. Mimms (1977) 434 US 106; (thought that posting No Trespassing notices on his truck was a sufficient substitute for having license plates - and was surprised when the police had his truck towed away) Fenili v. Calif. Dept of Motor Vehicles (ND Cal unpub 6/16/98); (homemade license plate, saying "Freeman", not acceptable, and state may impound car until perp presents current and valid license, registration, etc.) Maxfield v. Corwin (WD Mich unpub 3/17/87); (mere use of homemade license plates is indicative that car is not properly registered and is sufficient to justify police stop) Granse v. State (Minn.App unpub 7/1/97); State v. French (1994) 77 Haw 222, 883 P2d 644 (required to comply with license and traffic laws event though perp believes that Hawaii is still an independent kingdom, there is no federal legislation that overrides the state's authority to regulate driving); driving is a privilege not an inherent right and may be regulated by the state for public safety reasons: Jones v. City of Newport (1989) 29 Ark.App 42, 780 SW2d 338; (driving not synonymous with "right to travel") Azubuko v. Registrar of Motor Vehicles (1st Cir unpub 9/3/96) cert.den 520 US 1157; ditto City of Spokane v. Port (1986) 43 Wash.App 273, 716 P2d 945 revw.den 106 Wash.2d 1010; similarly (including driver license laws and requirement for vehicle registration and insurance) Goode v. Foster (D. Kan unpub 10/21/96); ditto Gordon v. State (1985) 108 Ida 178, 697 P2d 1192; ditto State v. Von Schmidt (1985) 109 Ida 736, 710 P2d 646; ditto Endsley v. State (1987) 184 Ga.App 797, 363 SE2d 1; similarly Lebrun v. State (1986) 255 Ga 406, 339 SE2d 227; ditto Humphreys v. State (Okla. Crim. App 1987) 738 P2d 188; ditto State v. Booher (Tenn.Crim.App 1997) 978 SW2d 953 (privilege of operation a motor vehicle on the public streets is "wholly separate from the right to travel"; perp refused to identify himself to police, tried to present policeman with his own version of "Miranda warning"; claims to be immune to license & registration requirement as an "unenfranchised citizen of Tennessee", etc.; held "No person in the State of Tennessee may exempt himself or herself from any law simply by declaring that he or she does not consent to its applying to them"); ditto State v. D.R. Gibson (1985) 108 Ida. 202, 697 P2d 1216 (perp claimed that as a "free man" who had not "accepted" a drivers license, he is exempt from all traffic laws); similarly Terpstra v. State (Ind.App 1988) 529 NE2d 839; similarly State v. Stuart (No.Dak 1996) 544 NW2d 158; similarly (including argument that his driving is not "commercial" or not connected to govt activity and therefore not susceptible to any state controls) State v. Skurdal (1988) 235 Mont 291, 767 P2d 304 ("That claim is baseless in Montana and we find no law in any other jurisdiction to support it either."); ditto (tried to argue that registration and licensing laws only apply if the vehicle is "for extraordinary use"; "We see no reason why we should place any limitations on the application of the registration statute when the legislature decided not to.") Slye-Nelson v. State (Tex.App 1993) 862 SW2d 628; ditto ("completely frivolous and meritless") J.M. Anderson v. State of Michigan (WD Mich unpub 3/18/93); ditto City of Spokane v. Port (1986) 43 Wash.App 273, 716 P2d 945 revw.den 106 Wash.2d 1010; ditto City of Belton v Horton (Mo.App 1997) 947 SW2d 104; ditto Humphreys v. State (Okla. Crim. App 1987) 738 P2d 188; ditto (claimed "it is a legal impossibility for the state or anyone to collect a civil penalty for non-registration of a private vehicle" and wanted $2.5M in damages; "completely frivolous and meritless") J.M. Anderson v. State of Michigan (WD Mich unpub 3/18/93); ditto (also that this was a "victimless crime") City of South Euclid v. Carroll (Ohio App unpub 10/6/88) app.dism 42 Oh.St.3d 706, 537 NE2d 225; similarly (tried to argue that limiting driving to those able to afford car insurance was discriminatory) Maher v. State (Ind.App 1993) 612 NE2d 1063; ditto State v. J.S. Smith (Minn.App unpub 6/11/96); (tried to argue that he could not be required to pay a fine nor pay for a license nor for registration in the absence of gold and silver coiage) Lowry v. State (Alask.App 1982) 655 P2d 780; (tried to argue that a traffic ticket required the same tedious red tape, such as notarization or accompanying papers, as a formal indictment or a complaint in a lawsuit) State v. Gibson (Ohio App unpub 6/19/95); (seemed to think that by denying US citizenship could immunize himself from drunk driving laws and from traffic court) T.J. Johnson v. State (Ark.App unpub 10/7/92); ditto (as "a 'free' man who is no longer a 14th Amendment citizen, he is not required to register his vehicle, wear a seatbelt or maintain liability insurance, ... also asserts that he is not required to abide by any state or federal laws.") State v. Folda (Mont 1994) 267 Mont 523, 51 Mont St.Rep 1149, 885 P2d 426; ditto State v. Skurdal (1988) 235 Mont 291, 767 P2d 304; ditto (argued that his unregistered truck was not a vehicle but a "religious conveyance" and as a "natural citizen" rather than an enfranchised citizen he was exempt from licensing law) Terpstra v. State (Ind.App 1988) 529 NE2d 839; ditto (also tried to argue that his unregistered automobile was not a "motor vehicle" unless and until it was registered) State v. Booher (Tenn.Crim.App 1997) 978 SW2d 953; similarly (altho alone in his truck, tried to deny that he was "driving a motor vehicle" but rather "traveling in a conveyance". "His reasoning for this premise ... is not based on any relevant statute or case precedent, and has no merit. [State law] defines an operator as a person ... 'who is in actual physical control of a motor vehicle upon a highway.' ... Since Davis was in actual physical control of the pickup truck, he was operating a motor vehicle.") State v. Davis (Mo.App 1988) 745 SW2d 249; similarly (argued that traffic laws, even against driving the wrong way down a one-way street, violated the 10th Amendment ... and sent the traffic judge letters on the letterhead of "The Committee to Save the Judges from Hanging Even Though They Deserve It" with the printed marginalia that "oppressed people have never once regained their freedom until they had hung the judges and stoned the tax collectors to death." ) Freeman v. Town of Lusk (Wyo.Supm 1986) 717 P2d 331; similarly (awarded himself, as "a first class judicial citizen", a permanent lifetime "travelers authorization" ... "it also means that never again will he have to wait in line at the Dept of Motor Vehicles for a renewal") Estes-El v. Town of Indian Lake (ND NY unpub 5/11/98); (an international driving permit is not, alone, a sufficient substitute for a drivers license, and requires additionally a drivers license from that person's country or state of residence) Schofield v. Hertz Corp. (1991) 201 Ga.App 830, 412 SE2d 853; Dwyer v. Margono (1997) 128 N.C.App 122, 493 SE2d 763 review den (1998) 347 NC 670, 500 SE2d 85; Eskew v. Young (SD IL 1998) 992 F.Supp 1049; someone whose drivers license had been deliberately suspended or revoked here cannot resume driving by obtaining an international drivers permit. People v. Platts (1995) 274 Ill.App.3d 753, 655 NE2d 300; where an arrestee has an international drivers permit in a false name that is a strong indication of an inclination and ability to flee and adopt false identities for which a high bail may be demanded. US v. Himler (3d Cir 1986) 797 F2d 156; having organized a small mob to resist law enforcement efforts to arrest him, having denied his citizenship and denied being susceptible to the laws or courts, and having threatened the judge, all justify the court refusing to allow him bail or pre-trial release. US v. Kanahele (D Haw 1995) 951 F.Supp 921; {The international driving permit is issued under the authority of the UN Convention on International Road Traffic, and it serves as an authoritative multi-lingual translation and verification of the person's home drivers license, which means that it has no legal weight without that home drivers license (and, also, a driver's international permit has no weight inside the driver's home country). It is good for not more than 12 months (less in some countries) and the driver is still subject to all the traffic laws. In the US, they are available from AAA for $10. Apparently there is a lively Internet scam of selling unauthorized or fake permits and at prices up to $300; cf. USA Today, 5 March 1999; Business Wire, 20 Jan 1999; Toronto Star, 5 Sept 1998}.

By Bernard J. Sussman, JD, MLS, CP,(as of: August, 11, 1999)

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Joe

IDIOT LEGAL ARGUMENTS relating to traffic laws: By Bernard J. Sussman, JD, MLS, CP

Joe

Posted by SECRET COMBINATIONS on October 21, 2000 at 10:28:22:

SECRET: Well I don't believe it JOE, I finally agree with everything you posted on the traveling issue. The state does have the right to enforce its traffic laws for motor vehicles, i.e., D.L., insurances, registration.

If a person is ignorant enough to get a license and register their "HORSELESS CARRIAGE" as a motor vehicle, then they are telling the state that their car is a commercial vehicle and then becomes a privilege not a right.

It is the deception by the states under the foreign flag and the ignorance and wrong arguements by the people. I DON'T THINK YOU READ ANDYTHING YOU POST.

Remove the 1 1/2 year-long White House, Congressional, and FBI STONE WALL of Silence erected over this issue of utmost importance. Before you vote, make sure you get a specific answer to it from ALL of the Presidential Candidates on the Campaign Trail.

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easy money (your_usa_id@unixmail.ks.boeing.com) wrote:

Raymond Karczewski wrote:

em: To help put your mind at ease sir, were here the true spirit is alive and will, we see we hear we read the ones who made this country what is today and well keep that way, the ones that won every war we been in even vietnam were not going anywhere. Just letting you know were not all ignoramuses.

rk: That sir, is merely a face-saving statement which usually accompanies lack of action. It is the hallmark of apathy.

rk: Intelligence requires timely action at the subtle levels of consciousness while one still has space in which to maneuver.

rk: Ignorance is the unmistakable energy of conflicted momentum based in emotional reaction when one's freedom, one's space has been systematically stripped away and one has no alternative but to lash out in narrowness, in frustration, in anger.

rk: The former leads to life, the latter -- to death. The holistic Spirit of Intelligence will always mirror the fragmented apathetic in pointing out the death-bound dualism-based, Intellectual energy of DELAY and FANTASY-BASED THINKING.

rk: Were people to live their daily lives intelligently, to hold their tax-supported government accountable for their malfeasance in office in a timely fashion, would there be a need for bloody revolution?

rk: I seek not the support of deluded ignoramuses who are so easily manipulated into violence through the remote keying of their long-implanted mind control buttons.

rk: I look around on the net. All I see is chaos, ignorance, and imbalance expressing itself. Look at the average postings seen on these newsgroups/forums. See how the few serious communications which arise from time to time are rapidly reduced to confusion and chaos by government/media sponsored/supported disinformation specialists who are employed to disrupt, to confuse, to misdirect.

rk: Truth is always self-evident. It operates through the agency of intelligent human beings.

rk: Where are the intelligent, the insightful, who are able to stand alone if necessary? So few to be found in a land of so many, eh?

rk: Open your eyes and look around. What do you see? Is the preponderance of energy observable on these groups/forums based in Intelligence or Ignorance?

rk: What are you going to do about it?

Remove the 1 1/2 year-long White House, Congressional, and FBI STONE WALL of Silence erected over this issue of utmost importance. Before you vote, make sure you get a specific answer to it from ALL of the Presidential Candidates on the Campaign Trail.

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25 Oct 2000 12:45:21 -0400

From: a@shell3.shore.net (a)

Organization: Shore.Net, A PRIMUS Company

In article (39f0dbae.20732626@reader.meganews.com), Raymond Karczewski (arkent@internetcds.com) wrote:

IT IS TIME to FORCE the FBI to publicly bring forth the results of their Investigation into my criminal complaint lodged with their Medford, Oregon office on November 2nd, 1997 regarding the issue of government/media supported/sponsored mind control/disinformation activities being conducted against their own Internet using U.S. citizenry.

GOOD NEWS RAY!!!

The FBI has finally released those results!

Here they are:

Anita Karczewski

Raymond Karczewski

Post Office Box 1870

Cave Junction, OR 97523

Dear Mr. and Mrs Karczewski

The FBI is in receipt of a package of information you provided to the office of Senator Ron Wyden concerning difficulties you have experienced on the Internet. The information has been reviewed and a formal record is being made in our files. No violation of federal law that meets investigative guidelines is presented and no investigation is being undertaken by the FBI.

A copy of this letter is being provided to the office Senator Ron Wyden as requested.

Sincerely

David W. Szady

Special Agent in Charge

By:

Steven R. Fiddler

Supervisory Senior Resident Agent

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Just another anonymous ignorant disinformation agent

rk: As can be expected of any cowardly anonymous government/media sponsored/supported, misdirecting disinformation agent in a last ditch attempt at damage control, you cut and pasted a letter out of the context of the original post issued by me on June 11th, 2000.

rk: For interested readers, the following "repost" will provide you with the "rest of the story."

rk: At the bottom of this post, just above my signature line, the reader will find a question which has accompanied every post I have written on these Internet newsgroups/forums since Sept 26th, 2000.

rk: It was placed thusly to bring this issue of Government/Media sponsored/supported Mind Control/Disinformation experiments upon unwary users of the Internet to closure. It was inserted in order to hold our government officials accountable -- To break through the STONE WALL of silence which has been erected by our government and media surrounding the criminal complaint filed by me with the Medford, Oregon office of the FBI on November 2nd, 1997.

rk: After all, what better opportunity to expose the corruption of our present government than by publicly asking questions regarding the continued viability of our government during a high profile Presidential Election campaign? Could such a secret so damaging to the future of this Constitutional form of government be kept from an awakening people? As of this moment, it would apparently seem so. Such is the evidence of the power held by the few over the many.

rk: Of course it could always wind up like the public performance given by Oregon Senator Ron Wyden during a Cave Junction Town Hall meeting on Apr. 16th, 2000 when he was directly questioned by me as to why 10 emails sent to his office in the years prior to the public meeting had gone unanswered. It was claimed none were received, although I had recieved autoresponder confirmation of their receipt.

rk: It must be noted that Senator Wyden's public performance that day was one thing, while his private performance prior to and subsequent to the meeting was quite another. Like all positive rhetoric, schmoozing, pandering politicians, Wyden's performance that day got him through the public meeting alright, but his subsequent performance only fortified the Stone Wall of silence which continues to surround this issue. This post is being written on Oct 25th, 2000, some five months since his public performance at the Town Hall Meeting. I have yet to receive the communication promised by him at the meeting regarding his action/disposition in this matter.

rk: Now it seems a bit curious to anyone with even a scintilla of intelligence that in a land of 260 million people, NOT ONE PERSON has seen fit to ask any of the Presidential candidates the pointed question during the Presidential campaign. If you "think" it not curious, then I can only rest my case as to the effectiveness of mind control upon the American Populace.

rk: If the question regarding the STONEWALLING of the American Public was indeed asked, then one must followup with the question -- Why is it that the media has seen fit to not publish the answer?

rk: And you folks think Mind Control is not going on?

rk: As long as you remain in your "politically correct" hypnotic sleep, you remain putty in the hands of such MIND CONTROLLERS.

rk: Wake UP AMERICA!!

Posted June 11th, 2000

An FBI Scandal in the Making??

For 951 days, the FBI has had in their possession a complaint issued by Raymond Karczewski, a citizen. For 951 days, other than erecting a STONE WALL of SILENCE to prevent it from being leaked to the American public, nothing was apparently done regarding resolution of the complaint.

What would cause a Federal Law Enforcement Agency to act in such a manner?

The essence of the complaint threatens the very fabric of the American way of Life. The complaint opens a Pandora's box of intrigue and deception which contains within it the very secret of power itself. It contains the secret of how man has been kept enslaved and ruled by his leadership since the dawn of civilization itself.

What is it that is so threatening to a system of government that not a public word was uttered by government/media on this issue for 951 days?

The answer is found in this question: IS GOVERNMENT/MEDIA using sub rosa mind control operatives to control the flow of information and shape opinions of unwary citizens who use the Internet?

Is such an issue worth investigating? Answer the question yourself. Don't rely upon another to answer it for you, for that "outer directed" stimuli which impinges upon your consciousness is the very essence of mind control and has made you the codependent, unwhole person most of you are today.

Two days ago, June 9th, 2000, 951 day from when it all began on Nov. 2nd, 1997, the STONE WALL of SILENCE was broken via the undated letter below.

Note, if you will, the determination to not investigate was not based on the two original complaints [mine on Nov. 2nd, 1997, 951 days prior, and my wife Anita's complaint on Oct. 29, 1999, 254 days prior, but on the brief information sent to them by Senator Wyden's office (go ahead, read the Special Agent's comments below, it couldn't be more clearly stated) subsequent to my public confrontation with Senator Wyden at a public Town Hall meeting in Cave Junction, Oregon on April 16th, 2000, some *54* days ago). What, in fact, did the FBI do about the case during the time in which it languished in their politically directed hands for 951 days?

If the American people allow this example of flagrant governmental disregard for the plight of the common citizen who petitions his government to do its job to go unquestioned and do not/will not hold their government officials accountable for such gross dereliction of their sworn oath of office, YOU CAN KISS THIS CONSTITUTION-BASED COUNTRY GOODBYE!!

I've done my part to awaken you from your conditioned slumber. The rest is up to you. Your way of life and the quality of life you bequeath your children depends on it.

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Letter from the FBI

Post Office Box 709

Portland, Oregon 97207

Anita Karczewski

Raymond Karczewski

Post Office Box 1870

Cave Junction, OR 97523

Dear Mr. and Mrs Karczewski

The FBI is in receipt of a package of information you provided to the office of Senator Ron Wyden concerning difficulties you have experienced on the Internet. The information has been reviewed and a formal record is being made in our files. No violation of federal law that meets investigative guidelines is presented and no investigation is being undertaken by the FBI.

A copy of this letter is being provided to the office Senator Ron Wyden as requested.

Sincerely

David W. Szady

Special Agent in Charge

By:

Steven R. Fiddler

Supervisory Senior Resident Agent

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My comments regarding the letter written in an earlier post:

rk Anybody see anything wrong with this picture?

Here's a few clues. Letter is not dated (although the envelope which contained the above letter bears three postmarks (one for June 6th 2000, and two for June 7th, 2000).

No case or file number is included in the letter. (How does one verify through the Freedom of Information Act, the FBI's preliminary investigation to support their position that mind control/disinformation activities on the Internet is not a serious enough undertaking to warrant their attention?)

No mention is made either of my or Anita's original complaints, lodged long before Senator Wyden's note sent to them subsequent to April 16th, 2000. Nor was any mention made of the thousands of pieces of accumulated evidence that may be found in the Internet archives covering the past four-and-a-half-years of this case. Their decision to not investigate this issue appears to be based solely on the "brief" amount of information sent to Julie Rubenstein, aide to Senator Wyden, as per her instructions.

It is clear to at least one person (ME) that a law enforcement "kiss-off" letter such as this one could have been written by anyone at the FBI office at any time during the 951 days the FBI has had the case in their custody.

Again, one must ask the question -- WHAT'S WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE?

In closing, are there any Law Firms which specialize in Civil Rights/Constitutional law that would be interested in representing me Pro Bono in bringing forth a definitive closure to this issue of Government/Media Sponsored/Supported Mind Control/Disinformation being conducted upon unwary users of the Internet? If so, contact me through my web site.

Remove the 1 1/2 year-long White House, Congressional, and FBI STONE WALL of Silence erected over this issue of utmost importance. Before you vote, make sure you get a specific answer to it from ALL of the Presidential Candidates on the Campaign Trail.

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Isn't it time for a fundamental change to emerge within Human Consciousness?

NOW IS THE TIME!

I invite ALL to listen to my streaming audio message "Truth or Consequences at: http://www.arkenterprises.com/truth.html

After listening to the message, contemplate its deeper meaning; then let your own Spirit of Intelligence guide you the rest of the way.

Just two simple steps taken by each of us acting independently, without the clutter of organization, can change our present world INSTANTLY:

1. Boycott the U.S. "NO CHOICE" Presidential Election in November.

A mass absence of participation in the Election Process will clearly show the actual WILL of the American Public.

A Vote Cast is a clear *VOTE* of CONFIDENCE!

A Boycott or *NO VOTE* is a message of NO CONFIDENCE by the American People in the present state of its government!

What could be clearer?

2. Take Back Your Money from the Money Handlers and you will take back control of your life.

10/27/2000

kristine (queenkristine@thecastle.com) wrote:

Raymond Karczewski wrote:

rk: Pay attention to the spirit of the following post written by one who uses the name kristine campbell.

rk: And you folks wonder why our kids are killing themselves and each other.

rk: It speaks for itself!!

rk: Is this the state of consciousness American Women have been reduced to?

rk: Hell, isn't it?

kc: leave to fucking bRat to get things bassackward and confused.

kc" oh well, he and that cunt he is married to STILL don't understand the simple of concept of what constitutes libel, so why i am not surprised that he has no grasp of the electoral process in the very country he lives in?

rk: > > A mass absence of participation in the Election Process will clearly show the actual WILL of the American Public.

kc: sorry, bub, but making no choice is still a choice...only it is made for you. how can you purport to link the "will of the american public" to not voting? you can not demonstrate your 'will' with apathy...its oxymoronic.

kc: uh, wait a minute, unless your 'will' is being a fat, sanctimonious blowhard living in squalor in oregon spamming your ridiculous rants all over the usenet 16 hours a day, and not voting so you have no say so in how your own country is run. in that case, you are showing your 'will'.

kc: having less people vote only means that less people decide...the decision gets made either way.

kc: and "mass absence"? bwhahaha. i don't think you, anitacunt, your paranoid daughter and fatassed son constitue a mass absence at the voting booth. i would venture to guess that only about handfull of knuckle heads even read what you spew and take it seriously...which wouldn't even be a blip on the voting radar screen.

kc: your rally cry for a boycott is really a whimper for abdicating responsibility.

rk: > > A Boycott or *NO VOTE* is a message of NO CONFIDENCE by the American People in the present state of its government!

kc: listen carefully...a vote of no confidence is a vote of no confidence. that wasn't provided for in the constitution. perhaps you got mixed up after reading the details of your pension plan, and meant to cast a vote of "no confidence" to the head of the union that runs the pension. hey, does the benevolent order of police there in oregon know that you think highway fines are "extortion"? and that you are a fugitive?

kc: the hispanics down in texas boycotted the gubernatorial elections last time around because of their staunch dislike for shrub, and look where that got them. he runs around now claiming to have over 50% of the hispanic vote in his home state. "they love me down there" he recently boasted. oh really?

kc: go ahead, bRat, stay home 7th...that makes my vote count all the more.

kc: you can boycott services but not a process. by not participating you simple allow others to chose for you. of course, your logic falls under its own weight...sorta like your fat head.

rk: > > What could be clearer?

kc: in your muddled, greasy little brain? nothing.

rk: > > 2. Take Back Your Money from the Money Handlers and you will take back control of your life.

kc: hey, bRat, did you ever go in and demand from your department to stop withholding taxes from your paycheck?

kc: does that fathead bRat jr. do that when he goes into work? i would ask if your pathetic excuse of a daughter does that as well, but since she is pathologically afraid of her own computer and can not turn it on, one can only assume that zippers, the internal combustion engine and a time clock would throw her into a catatonic state, therefore, she is probably on some sort of disability.

kc: oh and pay the fine, you cheap shit. perhaps if you functioned with more integrity, others might listen to what you have to say.

--

kristine queen of the undead afab army

* * * * * * * *

i'm an agent of satan, but my duties are mostly ceremonial

Remove the 1 1/2 year-long White House, Congressional, and FBI STONE WALL of Silence erected over this issue of utmost importance. Before you vote, make sure you get a specific answer to it from ALL of the Presidential Candidates on the Campaign Trail. -- Raymond Karczewski http://www.arkenterprises.com

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Here are some of the immediate responses to my exposure of kristine campbell in an article I posted just three hours ago.

How many of you are able to discern the panic emerging within the consciousness of these intimidating, libeling character assassins who cower in the shadows of anonymity while attempting to put their damage control spins upon the INARGUABLE TRUTH.

These are the same people who have struck fear into the average Internet posters who once felt these newsgroups offered them an opportunity for serious dialogue. Rather a short lived fantasy, wasn't it?

Note the underlying theme of these cowardly government/media anonymous "hired guns."

What is their goal?

What is their aim?

What is their agenda?

In the responses below, they are telling it to you straight out.

How many of you are aware enough to pick up on it?

I and my MESSAGE are a threat to the corruption they serve.

It has been their intention for the last five years to shut me down with whatever means they have at their disposal.

They must control the flow of information on these newsgroups, otherwise a slumbering mind controlled automaton might WAKE UP.

There is one clear and indisputable way to bring this Internet terrorism to a halt. Every one of you who have the "eyes to see" the "WHAT IS" unfolding before you, must face your own fears and doubts and act decisively to stop this Internet Terrorism in its tracks.

RISE UP FROM YOUR APATHY. PRESSURE YOUR GOVERNMENT into doing its sworn duty. Take measures which are befitting a Master, not a Slave. If your elected and appointed officials won't do their jobs, get them out of there and replace them with those who will.

PRESSURE THE GOVERNMENT into releasing the results of their investigation. Yes, folks, you can bet an investigation has already been conducted into this matter to some degree before it was derailed at the highest levels of our government.

Otherwise there would be no need for the unrelenting STONEWALLING campaign at all levels of our government and media.

Make no mistake about it. This isn't an issue of "where there's smoke there's fire." The thick black cloud which hovers ominously over this issue can only be excused by the cowardly, the inert, the codependent, the blind and the ignorant.

Look deeply into yourselves. Ask yourself which of the above adjectives DO NOT accurately characterize your daily life.

Our present government can only operate in the manner it does because of its confidence that the American Populace is nothing but a mass of gullible mind controlled "sheeple" who cannot rise above their conditioned "politically correct" thinking.

I, for one, am compelled to ask a rather startling question; one which may be a bitter Truth most Americans may not want to face --

Is this all that remains of the once indomitable American Spirit?

The following libelous attacks arise from the keyboards of ed wilkinson and other assorted anonymous government/media disinformation agents who, through disruption, intimidation, and character assassination control the flow of information on public Usenet Newsgroups/Forums

Commentary by an American Woman, Wife, Mother, and "Nurse" ( Re: A Revolution in Human Consciousness: THE TRANSITION!)

10/27/2000

kristine (queenkristine@thecastle.com) wrote:

Raymond Karczewski wrote:

rk: Pay attention to the spirit of the following post written by one who uses the name kristine campbell.

rk: And you folks wonder why our kids are killing themselves and each other.

rk: It speaks for itself!!

rk: Is this the state of consciousness American Women have been reduced to?

rk: Hell, isn't it?

kc: leave to fucking bRat to get things bassackward and confused.

kc" oh well, he and that cunt he is married to STILL don't understand the simple of concept of what constitutes libel, so why i am not surprised that he has no grasp of the electoral process in the very country he lives in?

rk: > > A mass absence of participation in the Election Process will clearly show the actual WILL of the American Public.

kc: sorry, bub, but making no choice is still a choice...only it is made for you. how can you purport to link the "will of the american public" to not voting? you can not demonstrate your 'will' with apathy...its oxymoronic.

kc: uh, wait a minute, unless your 'will' is being a fat, sanctimonious blowhard living in squalor in oregon spamming your ridiculous rants all over the usenet 16 hours a day, and not voting so you have no say so in how your own country is run. in that case, you are showing your 'will'.

kc: having less people vote only means that less people decide...the decision gets made either way.

kc: and "mass absence"? bwhahaha. i don't think you, anitacunt, your paranoid daughter and fatassed son constitue a mass absence at the voting booth. i would venture to guess that only about handfull of knuckle heads even read what you spew and take it seriously...which wouldn't even be a blip on the voting radar screen.

kc: your rally cry for a boycott is really a whimper for abdicating responsibility.

rk: > > A Boycott or *NO VOTE* is a message of NO CONFIDENCE by the American People in the present state of its government!

kc: listen carefully...a vote of no confidence is a vote of no confidence. that wasn't provided for in the constitution. perhaps you got mixed up after reading the details of your pension plan, and meant to cast a vote of "no confidence" to the head of the union that runs the pension. hey, does the benevolent order of police there in oregon know that you think highway fines are "extortion"? and that you are a fugitive?

kc: the hispanics down in texas boycotted the gubernatorial elections last time around because of their staunch dislike for shrub, and look where that got them. he runs around now claiming to have over 50% of the hispanic vote in his home state. "they love me down there" he recently boasted. oh really?

kc: go ahead, bRat, stay home 7th...that makes my vote count all the more.

kc: you can boycott services but not a process. by not participating you simple allow others to chose for you. of course, your logic falls under its own weight...sorta like your fat head.

rk: > > What could be clearer?

kc: in your muddled, greasy little brain? nothing.

rk: > > 2. Take Back Your Money from the Money Handlers and you will take back control of your life.

kc: hey, bRat, did you ever go in and demand from your department to stop withholding taxes from your paycheck?

kc: does that fathead bRat jr. do that when he goes into work? i would ask if your pathetic excuse of a daughter does that as well, but since she is pathologically afraid of her own computer and can not turn it on, one can only assume that zippers, the internal combustion engine and a time clock would throw her into a catatonic state, therefore, she is probably on some sort of disability.

kc: oh and pay the fine, you cheap shit. perhaps if you functioned with more integrity, others might listen to what you have to say.

--

kristine

queen of the undead afab army

* * * * * * * *

i'm an agent of satan, but my duties are mostly ceremonial

The following libelous attacks arise from the keyboards of ed wilkinson and other assorted anonymous government/media disinformation agents who, through disruption, intimidation, and character assassination control the flow of information on public Usenet Newsgroups/Forums

This didn't come out of nowhere

Re: Commentary by an American Woman, Wife, Mother (Raymond Karczewski)

Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 00:07:16 GMT

From: What happened here? (unknown)

This looks like someone who knows you and your family Ray, and it makes me wonder how things got to such a point this could be written. What did you do to her to make her dislike you so much? Presenting such a message completely out of context makes me think you're hiding almost the entire story here. Given the way you threaten everone you know, I'd bet there's a lot of s**t underpinning this post.

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Is there no end to your hatred Ray?

Re: This didn't come out of nowhere (What happened here?)

Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 00:20:54 GMT

From: Are you nothing but bitterness? (unknown) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~``

Disgusting comment as usual Ray

Re: Commentary by an American Woman, Wife, Mother (Raymond Karczewski)

Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 00:12:07 GMT

From: What about your kids Ray? (unknown)

rk: And you folks wonder why our kids are killing themselves and each other. This is a hell of a remark!!!!! What made you say a thing like this? Is there something in your own family that would inspire such an off-the-wall and obscene remark? I've never seen your kids around these parts, and I think you have three of them: do they have anything to do with you? I'll bet you abused the hell out of them when they were too little to get away from you and they don't see you anymore. On the money Ray? As usual, your post tells us much more about you than about anyone else possible.

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This is deeply offensive even for Ray

Re: Disgusting comment as usual Ray (What about your kids Ray?)

Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 00:27:44 GMT

From: (unknown)

If there is an embodiment of sickness and annihilation it's you Ray, and you poison everyone around you with your malice and vice. Why did you say this? Did one of your kids do something because of you?

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God have mercy, you're sick

Re: Commentary by an American Woman, Wife, Mother (Raymond Karczewski)

Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 00:13:57 GMT

From: Have pity on us all Lord (unknown)

JOSEPHINE COUNTY MENTAL HEALTH DEPARTMENT CLINICAL SERVICES Crisis Services - Emergency Phone Number 541-474-5365. Crisis Services are provided 24 hours a day to anyone experiencing a Mental Health Emergency.

Josephine County Mental Health Program Robert C. Beckett, Administrator 714 NW A Street Grants Pass, OR 97526 Phone: (541) 474-5365 Fax: (541) 474-5366 Website: http://www.jcmhd.com

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Revolting self-righteous remarks about women

Re: Commentary by an American Woman, Wife, Mother (Raymond Karczewski)

Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 00:17:37 GMT

From: (unknown)

If you've got a problem with women, and you obviously do, keep it to yourself. What the hell are you doing with your life?

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Stupid mind, stupid prejudice

Re: Revolting self-righteous remarks about women

Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 00:19:42 GMT

From: What did you expect from Ray Karczewski? (unknown)

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Wrong question Ray

Re: Commentary by an American Woman, Wife, Mother (Raymond Karczewski)

Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 00:23:52 GMT

From: Be ashamed Ray (unknown)

rk: Is this the state of consciousness American Women have been reduced to? No Ray. The question is what the hell state of "consciousness" have you been reduced to?

Be ashmed of your lack of self-control, dignity, and intelligence. And save your cheap, bigoted shots for Amita: I'm sure she's the only person on the face of the planet who tolerates you at all.

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Consequences of giving names to Ray

Re: Ray has a point... (LoC)

Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 22:24:23 GMT

From: Stop threatening people then Ray (unknown)

If people attached their names to criticisms of Ray, he'd be at their doors and damned dangerous in no time. Those as sick as Ray are cannot be trusted to act reasonably, and legally nothing can be done until AFTER he's hurt someone. People have the right to their opinion, and to be free from harm for voicing it, and if Ray wants to make a public spectacle of his paranoia and biterness, he can expect people to disparage him. He can also simply fall silent: no one is pointing a gun at his head and demanding he post idiotic and threatening messages every day to scores of Internet lists. SO WHY ARE YOU WHINING RAY: no one ever says anything about you until you start another damn attack. So SHUT UP and you'll have no problem.

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When Ray ends up at your home you'll sing a different tune

Re: Ray has a point... (LoC)

Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 22:37:22 GMT

From: (unknown)

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So where's the libel?

Re: The Latest Salvo (Raymond Karczewski)

Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 22:20:04 GMT

From: No lie, no libel (unknown)

Ray,

s: can't help but wonder if i am being monitored because i spend time on your site.

rk: You are. I monitor visitors to my site.

Subject: Re: One Small Step for Man, One Giant Leap in Consciousness for Mankind

Date: 09/23/2000

Now Ray, you yourself wrote this, so where the libel in somply informing people about the truth? If you admit monitor people on your website, and have in fact surrendered their names to various agencies, why do you demand this be kept a secret? WHY ARE YOU SO VICIOUS?

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No one's ever libeled Ray

Re: So where's the libel? (No lie, no libel)

Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 22:29:41 GMT

From: (unknown)

He's just an a**hole who gets so mad whenever anyone disagrees with or insults him him he labels that disagreement/insult libel. Ray. you'll NEVER get anyone to respect you this way, and nobody gives a crap about your opinion in any regard: the only reason you post at all is because it's the only life you have, and insults are better than silence for you. So why are you complaining? Get a life, get a job, do something better with your time, and you won't need abuse to fill up your hours. You're pathetic old man.

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I agree: where's the lie?

Re: So where's the libel? (No lie, no libel)

Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 22:42:22 GMT

From: (unknown)

All I see in any of these messages are personal reactions to threats/insults Ray has issued and warnings to people to be careful about his website. Why is any of this "libel?" It looks more like Ray is trying to lure people to his site and is not honest about what he does with the information he gets when they come: if anyone is criminal here, Ray is: be honest about yourself and your actions and people won't attack you. This is rather the point of the messages against you: you're a liar Ray, and all this does is underscore that fcact.

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NEWS FLASH RAY: We woldn't get this response

Re: The Latest Salvo (Raymond Karczewski)

Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 22:35:46 GMT

From: (unknown)

rk: Ask yourselves how many of you reading this would be able to stand up under such libelous attacks on a near-daily basis for five years.

You're the only one to get this response, and your experience is limited to you and people like you alone. NEWS FLASH RAY: people will react to threats, abuse, arrogance, and fraud in a negative way. If you stop threatening, abusing, lying, and insulting everyone, you'll have no problem. But of course you won't: you're an obvious mental case and cannot stop yourself. I hope you end up locked away for your own good. You do nothing but drag society down into your slime.

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Simple solution Ray: stop posting your inane garbage

Re: The Latest Salvo (Raymond Karczewski)

Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 22:43:36 GMT

From: No one cares anyway (unknown)

Remove the 1 1/2 year-long White House, Congressional, and FBI STONE WALL of Silence erected over this issue of utmost importance. Before you vote, make sure you get a specific answer to it from ALL of the Presidential Candidates on the Campaign Trail.

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Novus Ordo Seclorum! That phrase can be found just under the Pyramid on the back of a U.S. One Dollar Bill. Take a dollar out. Look at it for yourself. Were you even aware that it existed or what the phrase even meant? See the trappings of brainwashing hidden in plain sight -- right under your noses. How many of you are even aware of it?

What does "Novus Ordo Seclorum" mean? In essence, it means -- "Out of Chaos comes Order."

As to the above literal "letter of the word" definition of the phrase, I stand corrected by Illuminist "Frater Shintaro info@illuminat.nl " who said "Literally it means: New Order of the Ages."

However, the enlightened who would read the following article clearly understand its "essence" to be inarguable.

After reading this article, I recommend all who wish to gain a greater insight into this matter to visit my PETITION to "Compel the FBI to Investigate Government/Media sponsored/supported Mind Control/Disinformation Activities on the Internet" at : http://www.PetitionOnline.com/RayNita1/petition.html

Examine the signatures and comments. There you will find the evidence any reasonable person needs to determine the threat my Internet articles pose to the unrelenting momentum of the NEW WORLD ORDER.

Are these the words and actions of reasonable men, or those of cowardly hypocrites who must slink and attack from the shadows?

With great simplicity, the PETITION reveals the panic experienced by those who have lost their ability to intimidate integral sovereign citizens. Why does the simple writing of one man elicit such vitriolic, outrageous attacks from these cowardly, anonymous Government/Media Disinformation "hired guns."

What reasonable person would sign a petition anonymously? Anyone see anything wrong with that picture?

Who repeatedly colors their "suggestive" language to support the "Satanic" mode of consciousness?

Who hires and supports the actions of these anonymous Disinformation types?

Answer those questions for yourself, and you will grasp the secret of how man has been ruled through the ages by those who possess the knowledge of mind control.

What kind of world supports the dark spirit communicated via the words of these anonymous petition disrupters?

Ask these questions of yourself, for you hold in your hand, the key to the future of your world.

The purpose of these Disinformation types is, and always has been, to misdirect, disrupt, ridicule, carry on ad hominem attacks, and intimidate anyone from lending their name to the petition and/or initiating/carrying on a serious dialogue with others on these newsgroups and forums.

They do it with slogans; for sadly enough, they are incapable of expressing themselves beyond terse sound bytes. Sadder yet are the multitudes of readers who cannot fathom truth which is not easily packaged in terse slogans.

Do not shrink from what you must do because of such cowardly anonymous attacks. They can only influence you through "peer pressure," that is, of course, if you consider them to be your peers.

Are these anonymous cowardly hypocrites your PEERS?

If not, then let's get on with taking our world back from such toothless predator "grunts."

Now, let's look at the Big Picture of Government and YOU!

Governments control "civilized" peoples through force, fear, and mind control. Governments could not function, nor would they retain their power for long were they foreclosed upon from creating problems for their tax-supporting public by repeatedly implementing the *Hegelian Dialectic* Philosophy of Mind Control; i.e., Thesis--Antithesis--Synthesis.

Governments must have problems to solve in order to justify their existence. If none exist, they create them. The present vote scam occuring in Florida and elsewhere nationwide is just one such example. Watch closely leadership's mind control of the American Public over this issue. Pay attention -- for the future of our US Constitution depends on it.

A steady stream of problems ensure a societal atmosphere of chaos, confusion, fear and uncertainty when perceived through the conditioned filters of any "politically correct-thinking," trained, *security-conscious Intellect.*

Politicians know that masses of purposely dumbed-down, psychologically reactionary constituents who've been "cookie cuttered" via an heavy indoctrinational education system supplemented by mind controlling broadcast and print media can be made to doubt themselves, for they have lost their ability to see and act clearly. They have been seduced through high-sounding political rhetoric, made to capitulate. In that moment of capitulation, civilized man loses his balance and sells his holistic soul to the Satanic (the Opposer) Intellect, the "god" of civilized man's world.

Millions of such people who consider themselves to be "normal" (politically correct) in every way have been rendered inert and apathetic through such seductive means.

If problems appear remote, do not immediately touch their lives personally, "normal" people have been trained to procrastinate from taking action rather than to act decisively when their neighbors friends and families lives are being impacted.

Such is the success of the age-old mind control technique of Divide and Conquer. It has been utilized by every political regime which has existed since the beginning of time.

Still works, doesn't it? Technologically man has soared, has he not? Psychologically, however, man still lives at the level of our Stone Age ancestors, for modern day "civilized man" remains as "dumb as a rock."

Look at the ratcheting up of emotion over this predictable Vote Scam issue now underway in our country. Talk of Violence and Bloodshed is increasing. People are ready to kill each other, or be killed in the process themselves, rather than stop the soul-destroying momentum cold in its tracks. How? Read my article: "Take Back Your Money --Take Back Your Country --Sign the Petition!" at: http://x76.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=692450234

How do people get that way, you might ask. Truth is always self evident. It is there for all who have the spiritual eyes (sensitivity/awareness) to see. Yet through education and intellectually manipulatable concepts, bright eyes are soon dimmed, then ultimately blinded. The entity immersed in such unawareness is rendered helpless and dependent. The selling of one's soul is complete. One has relinquished his "Living Intelligence" in return for taking his place amongst the BLIND and LIVING DEAD, compelled to live life filtered through the dead, aftermoment-based Intellect. A Son Of God, a Sovereign Human Being, a potential Christ, has been reduced to a mind-controlled slave.

They cannot see, but they certainly can feel the pain of living the life they lead. Hell, isn't it?

Such hypocrisy-ruled consciousness will readily rationalize its personal impotence when called upon to cope with a pattern of life which has purposely been laid out for them by their leaders through unending campaigns of brainwashing and unrelenting, incremental, subtle hypnotic conditioning over extended periods of time.

Their reduced sensitivity (awareness) allows for the stripping away of their rights, their freedom, their intelligence and their life force. This is how masses of people can be made into expendable slaves whose destiny in a rigidly controlled society inevitably leads to prison work forces, concentration labor camps, or extermination camps.

This is how ordinary (normal) people who can rationalize to themselves that "it can't happen here" can be herded off into railway cars, then be ushered in to take a "shower" when they reach their destination.

This is how millions are held spellbound by "positive imaged" empty rhetoric and can be held at bay when they are made to doubt and excuse what they see unfolding all around them until it is too late.

That scenario repeats itself throughout history. It occurs when each generation can be made to forget the Truth of history's lessons through politically dictated historical revisionism.

Can't happen here, you say? How do you feel the German people would have answered that question prior to Hitler's consolidation of power prior to World War II?

Only instead of calling it the Third Reich, which was to have lasted a thousand years, it is being called the NEW WORLD ORDER. After all, who do you think is responsible for placing the phrase Novus Ordo Seclorum on the back of a U.S. Dollar bill?

Do you want to stop the present insanity that is gripping America? Start with the simple step of holding your elected officials accountable for Malfeasance of Office.

Sign the Online PETITION at: http://www.PetitionOnline.com/RayNita1/petition.html

Then TAKE BACK YOUR MONEY! Watch how quickly your elected leaders sit up and take notice when such a massive shift of consciousness occurs in defining who truly is the master and who is the servant in a government "of the people, by the people, and for the people."

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Are you feeling a bit unbalanced and helpless over the Vote Fraud issue in Florida and elsewhere in our country?

No Need.

Listen to my Streaming audio message "Balance" at: http://www.arkenterprises.com/balance.html

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After listening, ask yourself why Patriotic American men and women who desire our Country's return to its Constitutional form of government would prefer to kill or be killed in a violent, bloody, armed revolution when the glaringly foolproof remedy is a BLOODLESS and OBVIOUS one.

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