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Raymond Karczewski (arkent3@earthlink.net) wrote:
pj: well, you will always have Crack the Matrix to get your views out Ray....
rk: Thanks PJ. What troubles me most in this eight year experience of mine is the obliviousness of the participants/readership of these newsgroups/forums to the "in your face" insanity that is going on in our world by the very leadership the public has put its trust in. Granted there is much talk afoot, but there is little action, except talk of revolution, which is counterproductive and plays into the hands of the NEW WORLD ORDER..
rk: A resolution to the ills we face in this country and the rest of the world for that matter will not come by counting upon elected officials to solve our problems, (THEY ARE THE PROBLEM) but for each of us to see just how kaflooey our human society has become, realize our contribution to it, STOP THE MOMENTUM AND BOYCOTT BOYCOTT, BOYCOTT the government, FED RESERVE, UN, and THE WAR EFFORT from the top on down.
rk: Stop feeding the machine with personal support and energy and it WILL grind to a halt from lack of fuel.
rk: What if there was a war and NOBODY CAME?
Ray
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Raymond Karczewski (arkent3@earthlink.net) wrote:
Sun May 23, 2004 5:07pm
This is Not an Open Forum. Posts not related the Klamath Basin Water Crisis are subject to removal, as well as any posts the moderators deem inappropriate.
That is why I delete Raymond Karczewski's posts and will continue to do so.
kbc
rk: You folks sit idly by counting leaves while I go to the root of the tree. You problems have NEVER BEEN about water. Your problems are about POWER and TYRANNY and rationalizing your self-perceived impotence in dealing with it..
rk: With all due respect, look at your situation in Klamath Falls Oregon from the beginning till now. Are you folks worn out jumping through hoops yet"
rk: You folks are spiritual babes in the woods and don't understand your REAL POWER.
rk: Anybody who doesn't want to read my posts has always
had access to the delete button. Instead your emotional imbalanced prideful Intellect does not allow you to quietly push the button for yourself. You have to work the crowd into a lynch mob to feel better about your personal impotence.
rk: Hell, isn't it?
Raymond Ronald Karczewski©
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 16:25:13 -0700
"Kathy L. Dean" <kathylynndean@direcway.com>wrote:
Raymond Karczewski (arkent3@earthlink.net)wrote:
kld: > Absolutely NOTHING exciting happened! No lobby arrest for Nick, no wild Sheriff shenanigans.
rk: Kathy, the tactic now underway by the Josephine County Court can be called the "judicial grind" as they begin to play with court dates and set up endless postponements. They do this to increase your legal expenses, to keep the stress going, to wear you out psychologically and physically, and ultimately to hope the short attention span of the public will remove public scrutiny from their actions.
rk: When public interest in the case begins to wane, then they'll move.
rk: This is quite typical. In order to hold the illusion of control,the court must be able to control the dissemination of public information. That's where the media comes in. The courts depend on the carefully crafted PUBLIC RELATIONS image they enjoy with the aid of an accomodating press which sells the idea of fairness and justice to a gullible, trusting public, when nothing could be further from the Truth.
rk: They managed to keep the public from learning of my first hunger strike for the first 27 days of the fast, before the Grants Pass Courier grudgingly ran the story after Anita held a press conference in front of the County Jail.
rk: The power to hold public officials accountable, be they judges, DA's, sheriffs, etc., is public opinion. That is why this board and other local journalistic websites such as Pete Sparacino's, John Taft's, and Paul Walters' are so important. If we are to maintain our freedom, the public AT LARGE must be an informed public.
rk: However, such public reporting, which offsets the establishment spin by establishment media, cannot be limited to the Internet alone. People must talk to their neighbors--those without computers, without Satellite radio and without TV.
rk: It is important the taxpayers of Josephine County go to the courthouse and observe these criminal servants in action. Only then can justice return to Josephine County Oregon.
kld: > Although Nick was supposed to meet John Taft http://www.strobezone.homestead.com/ (This is John's old site, but it's still great) in the front of the building, their paths somehow got misaligned. It was important to us that someone be there as a witness just in case they did try to arrest Nick when he entered the building.
rk: The law enforcement intimidation Nick has been exposed to is no exception to the rule and is going on all over our country. Most people who are busily scratching out an existence are unaware of it, as the major media will not cover it. The face of law enforcement has changed radically since my days as a police sergeant in California. I am ashamed of my fellow officers.
kld: > Lucky for Nick, Paul Walter, Editor of NewsWithViews http://www.newswithviews.com/ stuck by Nick's side the entire time. I believe Paul asked for permission to film and was denied. The request has to be submitted "X" amount of days in advance, so he will be filming at the next hearing.
kld: > Just as I thought, this arraignment was again extended another two weeks because the JoCo Sheriff Department just can not get their evidence to us.
rk: In my three unlawful felony arrests and imprisonments, which spanned 17 months and resulted in 128 days of incarceration (121 of them in solitary confinement/maximum security) in the Josephine County Jail, none of my written court communications (including, motions, discovery, etc.) were ever answered by either the court or the District Attorney, even though the prevailing law commanded them to do so. They don't follow the law, they make it up as they go along. The JOCO Judicial system/DA's office counts on the ignorance of the jury to get away with their legal shenanigans in court.
kld: > It has been two months now, and all they have to come up with are the video tapes and audio tapes, and for some strange reason, just can not do it. Our lawyer has some of the evidence, but not all.
rk: Don't hold your breath!!
kld: > Thank God this case is about a chicken. Can you imagine if someone had been murdered and it took them two months to find the tapes?
rk: Nick, Kathy, consider this -- YOU'RE IN JOSEPHINE COUNTY, OREGON!!
kld: > What could be going on? I know how long it takes to copy a tape, both video and audio. MINUTES!!! What are they doing to them? Wouldn't you think any judge would ask what the problem is?
rk: What your innocent comment brings to mind is the story of the boxer who was getting a real shellacking, comes back to his corner after the round, bloodied, bruised and disoriented. His corner man tells the fighter he's doing fine, the other guy hasn't laid a glove on him. The fighter groggily looks up and replies, "You better damn well watch the referee then, because somebody's kicking my ass." My advice to you Kathy and Nick, is to keep an eye on the judge and DA.
kld: > The next court date has been set for Monday, 07 June 2004 at 1:30PM. Nick still has not been arraigned or pled to anything. In any other place on this whole Planet this case would have been thrown out long ago.
rk: Kathy, Nick, I went through two Felony Trials WITHOUT EVER BEING ARRAIGNED! Remember, you're in Josephine County, Oregon.
kld: > Nick was interviewed by KOBI Channel 5. We can't get local stations where we live, but I am assuming it will be on at either 5:00PM or 6:00PM.
kld: > Nick also made one last brave attempt at picking up his paperwork, with Paul Walter standing firmly by his side, but the rules have changed again. For the past two months we have been getting our paperwork directly from the Sheriff and/or DA office. Usually we have to pay for it, but it's normally under $10.00.
rk: Kathy, Nick, if the papers are filed with the Court Clerk's office, they are public documents and you may purchase them at your expense.
kld: > As of today, since we now have a lawyer, the DA will no longer give Nick any paperwork involving our case. Nick explained that we have always had a lawyer, right from the beginning. NOPE! NO PAPERWORK! NEW RULES!
rk: See above. Get the papers from the Court Clerk's office if they are filed.
kld: > Also, I received a lot of conflicting information about recording in a public building. All states are different, I assume, but in Oregon it's legal as long as you tell the person you have a tape recorder. You also have to show it, I think. So Nick was perfectly legal in showing the little Panasonic tape recorder and saying he was using it and it was on. A lot of people thought that was illegal. It's only illegal if you tape someone without their knowledge.
rk: Keep this in mind, the people are SOVEREIGN, the government is servant. Of course, this only holds true as long as the servant government does not declare war on it's SOVEREIGN people through martial law.
kld: > It is also not illegal in Oregon to video tape buildings, public or private from outside. Naturally, you wouldn't want to go onto someone's private property and invade their privacy. Some people told me it was illegal to videotape due to the threat level, or National Security. You of course have to get permission ahead of time to videotape inside county buildings, but I think that's standard everywhere.
kld: > So, that's it for now. I'm sure something exciting will happen within the next two weeks, and I'll be sure to tell you about it.
rk: Relax, Nick and Kathy. Get prepared for the LONG HAUL!!!
Raymond Ronald Karczewski©
kld: > If you haven't done so yet, sign up to the Yahoo site. There have been some great conversations on there, and Deputy Tripp even joined with his Visa Card, and suggested I was in some way trying to scam him. So far, he is the ONLY person who has managed to find an area where a credit card was required, but I told him thanks, I was buying all sorts of new things with it...K.
The Supreme and Final Authority of Constitutional TrVth on the Internet aka Government "disinformation spook" wrote:
Raymond Karczewski (arkent3@earthlink.net) wrote:
May 25, 04 - 12:42 PM
ds: > Because whether you like it or not, a thief is a thief is a thief.
rk: Where is the theft? Who owned the chicken? Who filed a complaint accompanied by affidavit affirming that they were the owner of the chicken and a theft had indeed occurred?
ds: > It's obvious you want this person to start committing felonies they way you did, I can only guess the reasons... because you are a convicted felon, if this chicken thief becomes a convicted felon, you would be committing another felony by schmoozing with a fellow felon.
rk: If I am a convicted felon, why am I not in jail? Why am I a free man.
rk: Hang in there awhile and you might even come to cross paths with some of the Josephine County Judges when you meet them behind bars. Your mind-controlling disinformation schtick is finally being seen for what it is by awakening civilized "sleepyheads." Your cowardly days are numbered. Hell, isn't it?
ds: > You want to whine about your Constitutional rights? Lets examine them. The United States Constitution grants you no specific rights at all.
rk: My rights are Unalienable and granted me by my Creator. No government can abridge them. Doesn't that just frost you? I live by GOD'S LAW.
ds: > It is the 27 Amendments to the Constitution that grant U.S. citizens various rights, and anything not specifically granted, prohibited, or regulated at the Constitutional level, is thusly granted to the state to grant, prohibit, or regulate at it's discretion. Your Constitution ignorance is glaring, is it not?
rk: First of all the Constitution is not an instrument which compels performance of the people, but rather it compel performance of government. Bassackwards, aren't you?
ds: > Your so called sovereign rights end where the safety of other citizens begins. Just because you didn't cause the reckless death of someone when you were rudely driving with your high-beams doesn't mean you cannot be held accountable for your actions.
rk: Where was the damage, harm, or infringement upon the rights of another as a result of my actions? Without evidence of damage, harm or infringement of rights, NO CRIME exists in Common Law, the law under which I derive and stand upon my rights. Administrative courts have no jurisdiction for sovereign peoples operating under the DeJure Constitution of 1789.
ds: > Just because you didn't commit vehicular homicide because you were certified to operate your car, which is a potentially lethal weapon, doesn't mean you are absolved of your reckless and illegal behavior.
rk: According to Common Law, there was no evidence presented by the prosecution of any crime committed in either case. It was all smoke and mirrors. SATANIC, isn't it?
rk: Hell, after 21 months the crooked, corrupt Josephine County District Attorney CLAY E. JOHNSON, and the 8 Josephine County Judges, who together knowingly and willingly conspired to commit fraud, official misconduct in the first degree and simulation of legal process in their unlawful prosecution of this living breathing, flesh and blood, sentient natural man, have yet to prove jurisdiction and/or scare up anyone who actually filed a claim against me accompanied by affidavit or sworn testimony upon their own unlimited personal commercial liability. What's wrong with this picture?
ds: > Then you chose to file fraudulent liens against those who were doing their job; a job with duties that they had no choice but to discharge, which resulted in your being held accountable by the Oregon Department of Justice. You attempted to victimize seven people in that little episode.
rk: Nothing "fraudulent" about those liens. You're confusing "holding accountable" with "victimize." Bassackward, aren't you?
ds: > Now, because you are starved for attention, you are demonstrating jealousy over the attention being shown to a chicken thief.
rk: The high profile status of Nick Gambos' case is due to the degree of insanity so readily displayed by our law enforcment and judicial officials in the performance of their duties here in Josephine County, Oregon. When our lawmakers and enforcers exercise such irrational judgment in the performance of their duties, it is time for a change, is it not?
ds: > It's difficult to imagine a more ridiculous scenario than an old man in his dotage, spewing bile because he made a traffic ticket into a federal case, and a "Snuffy Smith" styled chicken thief commanded more media attention.
rk: My case has to do with sovereignty and freedom, no more, no less. The fact that I am but one voice in the wilderness which does not easily resonate with lazy, blindly-believing, non-discriminating, codependent, narcotized, beer-swilling, pleasure-seeking, sport-watching ignoramuses only serves to further indict our increasingly sick society.
rk: The insanity of the circumstances of my case snowballed from the ignorant actions of armed agents for the private, for profit corporation of Josephine County and State of Oregon. The courts here in Oregon are administrative courts and therefore are not lawful courts and do not constitute a "lawful" Article III court as per the Constitution.
rk: In reality,the sheriff's deputies are no more than armed agents of the private corporation, not unlike the pirates of yesteryear who roamed the seas (highways) in search of booty (automobile impoundments) for their master's and their personal enrichment.
rk: The problem is that the public has been conditioned into a state of paralyzing fear when it comes to holding their public servants accountable when servants seek to be master.
ds: > Your problem is that you are simply too stubborn, too proud, and too obnoxious to admit that you were wrong, and that you should have just payed your fine.
rk: You forgot the comment about licking the boots of those who would enslave us. You're an obedient, obsequious little pipsqueak, aren't you?
ds: > You are not an inspiration to anyone, in fact, the only thing you have successfully executed is making a fool of yourself.
rk: You know the old saying -- "It ain't over til its over!!"
rk: When I finish with JOCO and the State of Oregon, I'm coming after all of you cowardly, shadow slinking government/media disinformation agents who play with the minds of the gullible on the Internet. You will, in time, come to understand the difference between a "creditor" and a "debtor." Of that you can be assured.
ds: > Another thing you need to do is comply with the law regarding your status as a convicted felon and surrender your firearms to your local law enforcement agency. I think the time has come for an internet petition for law enforcement agencies to start enforcing the law in regards to seizing illegally held firearms, and you make the perfect example to cite.
rk: You're a real piece of work, aren't you, oh sidewinding "shadow dweller?"
ds: > A final caveat; you are not an attorney. You are hereby charged and advised to not dispense legal advise, which includes your claims that people should stop paying taxes, stop obeying the law, and act in a manner in contravention to the laws which exist to promote peaceful society and safety for all.
rk: I have never advised others to disobey the LAW. You confuse the minds of the nondiscriminating reader of these groups/forums when you deliberately substitute Corporate private policy for public Law.
ds: > You can claim your BOYCOTT spewage means whatever you want, but BOYCOTTING government essentially means that the one doing the BOYCOTTING stops paying their taxes and observing laws that are an inconvenience.
rk: When you have criminals in positions of power in government, BOYCOTT them. Pull the pursestrings tight and you will see the "weeping and gnashing of teeth" when their free ride and syphoning from the public trough comes to a halt. Now there's a worthy goal for the American People.
ds: > Act your age, Ray. These childish antics, were at one time entertaining, but are now stale and tiresome. The only imposed slavery by the government is that which you impose upon yourself by your criminal acts.
rk: Do not confuse private policies with crimes!! It only exposes your prideful stupidity.
ds: > This is spoken with love, not as an attack.
rk: That dog won't hunt!! Your forked tongue spews hypocrisy, nothing more, nothing less.
ds: > I realize you will encounter difficulty curbing your urge to attack my advice with all sorts of silly insults, but try, for once in your life, to swallow your pride and listen to a voice not inside your head. That isn't jumping through hoops, it's exercising good sense.
rk: No difficulty involved at all. A Mirror of Truth can only reflect that which stands before it, Hell, isn't it?
Raymond Ronald Karczewski©
There you go, TrVth.
Refreshing, isn't it?
The Supreme and Final Authority of Constitutional TrVth on the Internet aka Government "disinformation spook" wrote:
Raymond Karczewski (arkent3@earthlink.net) wrote:
May 25, 04 - 12:42 PM
ds: >>> Because whether you like it or not, a thief is a thief is a thief.
rk: >> Where is the theft? Who owned the chicken? Who filed a complaint accompanied by affidavit affirming that they were the owner of the chicken and a theft had indeed occurred?
ds: > That's a matter for discovery during the investigative phase of this prosecution. You are not a police officer and are not assigned to the case, therefore you are not kept apprised of information pertinant to this case, information which is critical to formulating an informed opinion about this case. Essentially, you have jumped the gun and made much ado about nothing.
rk: Yet, you are the one who jumps to the conclusion and judges another as a "a thief is a thief is a thief" Are you observing how that Mirror of Truth works yet?
rk:>> If I am a convicted felon, why am I not in jail? Why am I a free man.
ds: > Well it's obvious that the Judge who has presided over you in your past felony court cases, felt sorry for you, and didn't want to imprison an old man with a sick wife. I can promise you that this time will be different though. They will not take any more of your childish antics, and will come down on you with the full force of the law. I'm telling you this for your own good, but your too d@mn dumb to accept my benevolent advice.
rk: My rights are Unalienable and granted me by my Creator. No government can abridge them. Doesn't that just frost you? I live by GOD'S LAW.
ds: > Your rights end where infringement upon society's begins. When you behave in a reckless manner, you are held accountable for such indiscretions. Using your logic, I can build bombs as long as they don't blow up and hurt people. I can act like Yosmite Sam and play with guns like toys as long as no one gets shot. I can manfure heroin in my bathroom, because as long as there is no victim, there's no crime. It's your logic, Ray. What would you do if your neighbor was building bombs, playing with guns, and manufacturing drugs?
rk: Government and Pharmaceutical Companies do it all the time.
The question is what will the Sovereign people do about it?
ds: > Your so called sovereign rights end where the safety of other citizens begins. Just because you didn't cause the reckless death of someone when you were rudely driving with your high-beams doesn't mean you cannot be held accountable for your actions.
rk: No one's safety was compromised. No harm or damage was done. What crime was committed? What is one to be held accountable for? You, like many obsequious corporate linked boot lickers confuse the revenue generating policies of private, "for-profit" corporations through their enforcement of victimless infractions with actual common-law crime.
ds: >>> Just because you didn't commit vehicular homicide because you were not certified to operate your car, which is a potentially lethal weapon, doesn't mean you are absolved of your reckless and illegal behavior.
rk: >> According to Common Law, there was no evidence presented by the prosecution of any crime committed in either case. It was all smoke and mirrors. SATANIC, isn't it?
ds: > You are held accountable to the laws of the city, county, state, and nation. Common law only exists within the confines of spaces not defined by legislative law.
rk: You've got that bassackwards, have you not? Legislative law is Corporate Policy which applies to corporate subjects. When no damage, harm, or infringement of rights has occured no crime has been committed according to Common Law.
rk:>> Hell, after 21 months the crooked, corrupt Josephine County District Attorney CLAY E. JOHNSON, and the 8 Josephine County Judges, who together knowingly and willingly conspired to commit fraud, official misconduct in the first degree and simulation of legal process in their unlawful prosecution of this living breathing, flesh and blood, sentient natural man, have yet to prove jurisdiction and/or scare up anyone who actually filed a claim against me accompanied by affidavit or sworn testimony upon their own unlimited personal commercial liability. What's wrong with this picture?
ds: > You broke the law. Period. Accept responsibility for your behavior, pay your fine, then go home and take care of your poor sickly wife. If you think Anita's failing health is a perpetual "get out of jail free" card, your gravely mistaken. I cannot speak for law enforcement and the judiciary in Josephine County, but I'm certain that they are quite sick your childish antics, and this is it. The free ride is over.
ds: > Then you chose to file fraudulent liens against those who were doing their job; a job with duties that they had no choice but to discharge, which resulted in your being held accountable by the Oregon Department of Justice. You attempted to victimize seven people in that little episode.
rk: Nothing fraudulent about the liens. Government, IRS, Corporations and business employ that legal commercial venue all the time. Have you not heard that what is "sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander." The people are sovereign, the government operates only under a cloak of limited sovereignty, and does so at the behest of the people. When public servants overstep their authority, they can be held personally accountable for their actions through such nonjudical remedies.
rk:>> Nothing "fraudulent" about those liens. You're confusing "holding accountable" with "victimize." Bassackward, aren't you?
ds: > I'm a member of a diverse organization, many of the members are police officers, lawyers, and even one judge.
rk: Why does that not come as a surprise? I have been a solitary voice in the Internet wilderness since 1998 shouting to the winds regarding the organized government/media/intelligence community mind control/disinformation operation going on these Internet newsgroups/forums and demanding an FBI Investigation into the matter.
ds: > I've briefly discussed your case with them... all I can say is that you should consider yourself fortunate that you don't live near me. You might be able to get away with these childish antics in a rural setting, but in the city, you would be warehoused just like every other felon processed by the criminal justice system.
rk: You finally said it, have you not? Prisons are debtor/slave/human resources warehouses and have nothing to do with justice and fairness. Out of the mouths of establishment SATANISTS, eh?
ds: > Simulation of a Legal Process is a serious offense (a felony), and carries up to five years imprisonment per count.
rk: In open court, on the court record, I have charged 8 Josephine County Judges and the District Attorney with simulation of legal process. Who gets to investigate that?
ds: > Had you started on a courtroom tirade, ranting about your Christhood, you would have spent a 72 hour observation period in the lockdown ward of a state psychiatric hospital.
rk: The fact that you wish to paint me as Jesus Christ is your problem, not mine. I have never made such a claim.
ds: > Considering the lienient treatment you have received thusfar in Josephine County, you should consider your free lunch over. You're a grown man, so start acting like it because you are going to be held accountable the next time you start commiting felonies.
rk: It is the District Attorney and the Judges of Josephine County who have enjoyed a "free lunch." It is time for the people of Josephine County, the Sovereigns, to clean up the mess at the courthouse.
ds: >>> Now, because you are starved for attention, you are demonstrating jealousy over the attention being shown to a chicken thief.
rk: >> The high profile status of Nick Gambos' case is due to the degree of insanity so readily displayed by our law enforcment and judicial officials in the performance of their duties here in Josephine County, Oregon. When our lawmakers and enforcers exercise such irrational judgment in the performance of their duties, it is time for a change, is it not?
ds: > It isn't a high profile case, you idiot. It's been in the papers a couple of times, and the only other coverage has been your prolific spamming of it all over the internet. High profile means front page national news, complete with partisan spin doctoring by television infotainment venues.
ds: >>> It's difficult to imagine a more ridiculous scenario than an old man in his dotage, spewing bile because he made a traffic ticket into a federal case, and a "Snuffy Smith" styled chicken thief commanded more media attention.
rk: >> The insanity of the circumstances of my case snowballed from the ignorant actions of armed agents for the private, for profit corporation of Josephine County and State of Oregon. The courts here in Oregon are administrative courts and therefore are not lawful courts and do not constitute a "lawful" Article III court as per the Constitution.
ds: > The insanity of your case was just cited. Past failures of militia patriot tactics should have been a beacon to your powers of reason, but against all good sense, you refused a professional attorney's assistance and had a fool for a client and you completely bungled a case that has diminished your rights by reducing your civil status to that of a convicted felon. You may not vote, you may not possess firearms, you may not associate with other felons. You have to jump through more hoops now, than ever before.
rk:>> In reality,the sheriff's deputies are no more than armed agents of the private corporation, not unlike the pirates of yesteryear who roamed the seas (highways) in search of booty (automobile impoundments) for their master's and their personal enrichment.
ds: > The deputies are armed because their job is dangerous. Arresting murderers, armed robbers, rapists, and wife beaters, whacked out drug addicts, and other violent nuts isn't prep school. You were supposed to have at one time been a cop, you should know these things, or were you just some idiot behind a desk who never did any real police work?
rk: Do you always go off half-cocked with judgements like that? Surely one would be expected to have a scintilla of knowledge before making such groundless statements. But then again, disinformation character assassins operate that way, don't they?
rk: >> The problem is that the public has been conditioned into a state of paralyzing fear when it comes to holding their public servants accountable when servants seek to be master.
ds: > THe problem is that you broke the law. End of story.
rk: Au contraire. Neither the Sheriff, DA, State's Attorney, or 8 Josephine County Judges have proven that a "crime" was committed by me. What they only proved was that a "crime" was committed by them in conspiring to prosecute a living breathing, flesh-and-blood, sentient, natural man who was not a surety for the "legal fiction" named as defendant.
ds: >>> Your problem is that you are simply too stubborn, too proud, and too obnoxious to admit that you were wrong, and that you should have just payed your fine.
rk:>> You forgot the comment about licking the boots of those who would enslave us. You're an obedient, obsequious little pipsqueak, aren't you?
ds: > I'm not the one who whined to a judge, "I'm sorry, I'm sure sorry your honor, I sure wish I could help you" when you claimed to be steadfastly refusing to sign a document I listened to that track you posted, and you sounded like a ten year old boy who was being questioned by his mother after stealing a package of gum from a store. Whose boots were you licking that day?
rk: I suggest you listen to that sound file again, this time without the noise going on in your interpretive Satanic Intellect.
ds: >>> You are not an inspiration to anyone, in fact, the only thing you have successfully executed is making a fool of yourself.
rk: >> You know the old saying -- "It ain't over til its over!!"
ds: >>> It's over. If you don't believe me, then file another lien or refuse to surrender your firearms.
rk: >> When I finish with JOCO and the State of Oregon, I'm coming after all of you cowardly, shadow slinking government/media disinformation agents who play with the minds of the gullible on the Internet.
ds: > Really? What exactly is it you think you can do to me for disagreeing with you, Ray? I've done nothing actionable, and there isn't a ****ed thing you can do. Disagreeing with you is not a crime, it's my right.
rk: Not when it is an conspiratorial, agenda-based government/media disinformation campaign.
rk:>> You will, in time, come to understand the difference between a "creditor" and a "debtor." Of that you can be assured.
ds: > Is that right? You will, in time, come to understand that repeat felons die in prison. Thats right, Ray, go ahead and file some more fraudulent liens and you will spend the rest of your natural life in a cage with other felons. Is that what you really want? Is that what you want for your poor sickly wife?
ds: >>> Another thing you need to do is comply with the law regarding your status as a convicted felon and surrender your firearms to your local law enforcement agency. I think the time has come for an internet petition for law enforcement agencies to start enforcing the law in regards to seizing illegally held firearms, and you make the perfect example to cite.
rk:>> You're a real piece of work, aren't you, oh sidewinding "shadow dweller?"
ds: > You've got that right. This piece of work believes the time has come for you to be disarmed. You are a convicted felon, as such you are forbidden to be in possession of firearms, and you are hereby being instructed by a responsible, law abiding citizen, to surrender your firearms to a law enforcement official, and you are to do this immediately.
ds: > The time has come to demand that you be brought into full compliance with the law, and in light of your warped and twisted world views, the sooner you are disarmed, the better for the law abiding men, women, and children of your community.
ds: >>> A final caveat; you are not an attorney. You are hereby charged and advised to not dispense legal advise, which includes your claims that people should stop paying taxes, stop obeying the law, and act in a manner in contravention to the laws which exist to promote peaceful society and safety for all.
rk:>> I have never advised others to disobey the LAW. You confuse the minds of the nondiscriminating reader of these groups/forums when you deliberately substitute Corporate private policy for public Law.
ds: > Yeah, right, "BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT government" and "withdraw your support" means stop paying taxes and ignore the law. If it means something else, then by all means explain to the masses who you seem to be convinced are dwelling on your every word and gesture.
rk: I have already explained it many times on the Internet. The denseness of intellectual conditioning of the average ignoramus who would rather take up a gun in bloody revolution than withdraw their personal support/energy which feeds the growing insanity of our world is testimony to your/their ignorance. Confused, complexity-oriented, societally-conditioned intellects cannot grasp the utter simplicity and efficacy of BOYCOTT. BOYCOTT is the Intelligent solution to the problem of a criminally errant government.
ds: >>> You can claim your BOYCOTT spewage means whatever you want, but BOYCOTTING government essentially means that the one doing the BOYCOTTING stops paying their taxes and observing laws that are an inconvenience.
rk: >> When you have criminals in positions of power in government, BOYCOTT them. Pull the pursestrings tight and you will see the "weeping and gnashing of teeth" when their free ride and syphoning from the public trough comes to a halt. Now there's a worthy goal for the American People.
ds: > Another worthy goal is seeing to it that convicted felons who possess firearms are held accountable for their compounding felonious behavior.
rk: When guns are stripped away from the people who have a right to bear arms, only tyrants will have guns. Is that what you propose?
ds: >>> Act your age, Ray. These childish antics, were at one time entertaining, but are now stale and tiresome. The only imposed slavery by the government is that which you impose upon yourself by your criminal acts.
rk: >> Do not confuse private policies with crimes!! It only exposes your prideful stupidity.
ds: >>>So you admit that your childish behavior is a matter of private policy?
rk: See what I mean about word-twisting disinformation agents who manufacture deceptions from the words of another taken out of context?
ds: > It's glarinly apparent who is mired in pride, Ray. I'm not the one convicted of numerous felonies, and making idle threats to people who exercise their First Amendment rights... or by your logic, I'm exercising my sovereignty, and as a sovereign, there isn't a d@mned thing you can do to me.
ds: > Now, has the stining pain of your twisted logic woke you yet?
ds: >>> This is spoken with love, not as an attack.
rk: >> That dog won't hunt!! Your forked tongue spews hypocrisy, nothing more, nothing less.
ds: > I'm trying to save you from a life sentence in some dank cell where you have to fight others to keep your food and prevent yourself from being raped. Thats what happens to imprisoned felons with chips on their shoulders. Sometimes it requires harsh words to awaken someone who is mired in a pool of self destructive behavior.
rk: Sounds like psychological projection to me. How does it sound to you?
ds: >>> I realize you will encounter difficulty curbing your urge to attack my advice with all sorts of silly insults, but try, for once in your life, to swallow your pride and listen to a voice not inside your head. That isn't jumping through hoops, it's exercising good sense.
rk:>> No difficulty involved at all. A Mirror of Truth can only reflect that which stands before it, Hell, isn't it?
ds: > A verbal device that simulates saying "I'm rubber and you're glue" won't protect you from a life sentence in prison when the Sheriff's department comes to deliver you to justice. It won't protect you in prison, either. Remain on your present path, and you will discover that glaring little truism sooner than later.
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Resist Not Tyrannical Government
BOYCOTT IT!!
Raymond Karczewski http://www.arkenterprises.com
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jackdspratt@yahoo.com> wrote:
Raymond Karczewski (arkent3@earthlink.net)
May 25, 2004
Jack
rk: "ds" stands for "disinfo spook," a label which I personally assigned to the individual.
rk: If one looks at the responses to my articles (and those of other authors of serious communication) written on the Internet over the last 8 years, they will find a cadre of disinformation agents who operate under a host of different aliases and prowl the Usenet newsgroups and forums. Their express purpose is to disrupt serious communication thereon.
rk: "ds," disinfo spook, is one such government/media spook bent upon character assassination/mind control/disinformation. His writings may be found concentrated in the newsgroup alt.fan.art-bell but also can be found stalking my writing and the writing of other serious authors in groups/forums on the Internet. They are the group referred to on the "trashed" petition at http://www.petitiononline.com/RayNita1/petition.html
rk: They discovered and insinuated themselves in the "ask a cop" and the JOCO SheriffsWatch forum recently and are now actively posting in both locations. One may observe their spin/disinfo on "ask a cop" in the thread "The real skinny on Big Ray Karczewski." see: http://www.cyberhouse.org/public/phpbb2/viewforum.php?f=3&sid=8e46ceb49942edf8f27aa610214188b1
rk: In my original article on the JOCO sheriff watch forum, I told Kathy that "It is not my intention to redirect attention away from your case but to focus public attention upon the routine corruption that governs the Josephine County Courthouse,"
rk: Members of this group include Grants Pass' ed wilkinson, a small time journalist who has ties to government, the intelligence community, broadcast media and long term ties to a Southern Oregon cult leader.
rk: Perhaps if the JOCO Sheriff's Office were to trace and identify the posters behind those who contributed to the thread "The real skinny on Big Ray Karczewski," this government/media disinformation campaign on the Internet could be solved and a major service provided to the unaware posters on the Internet whose views are molded by such insidious cointelpro operations. That is, if they, the JOCO Sheriff's Office wanted to do the job the taxpayers pay them to do.
Raymond Ronald Karczewski©
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At Tue, 25 May 2004 14:24:27 -0700 (PDT), Jack Spratt
jackdspratt@yahoo.com> wrote:
Mr. Karczewski,
I have been following the dialogues in the yahoo
group JOCO_SheriffsWatch. I know it will be
desperatley obvious once you answer but for my benefit
would you please state who ds is in the dialogues you
post?
I lived in Oregon for 17 years returning to Texas
three years ago after O'Neil(right there in Grants
Pass) gave my ex wife everything she wanted in spite
of all evidence showing her an unfit mother. A judge
in Coos County allowed a tainted resstraining order to
stand as well.
I remember years ago reading about your arrest
over the driving with out a license. I applaud your
willingness to take your stand and face the beast head
on.
Respectfully
By Raymond Karczewski
Is there anybody out there who is willing to join me in asking the Josephine County, Oregon Sheriff Dave Daniel to conduct a thorough investigation into cleaning up his propaganda web site, http://www.cyberhouse.org/public/phpbb2/index.php with specific attention placed on the forum "Ask a Cop".
It must be noted that Anita, my wife, and I are banned from posting or responding to any articles which appear on the forum. This is so, even though neither Anita or I have ever posted an article on the site prior to, or since such banning. Admittedly, the balance of justice here in Josephine County, Oregon is decidedly askew. This kind of heavy-handed, onesidedness is an egregious assault upon the intelligence of the taxpaying public.
Presently, a current article thread titled "The real skinny on Big Ray Karczewski" is being posted on the forum "Ask a Cop" by a number of anonymous posters who refuse to identify themselves, yet readily stoop to the libeling of others under the illusion they are immune from prosecution for such criminal acts.
These kinds of tactics are traced to the same individuals who were and are the subjects of the criminal complaint I filed with the Medford, Oregon office of the FBI on Nov. 2, 1997 and the subject of the Petition subsequently filed on the Internet regarding a Government/Media mind control/disinformation campaign launched against unwary users of the Internet. see: http://www.petitiononline.com/RayNita1/petition.html
Our freedom is threatened because of bogus terrorist threats which prompt legislation that target the freedom and rights of the American People. The American taxpayer, the source of wealth which funds government, his public servants, lives in fear, because of ignorance and impotence when facing their public servants when it comes time to hold them responsible for acts which run counter to their Oath of Office.
When one, such as myself, who has taken such an oath and lives by it, and will stand alone, if necessary, to hold government officials responsible to perform their duties according to their Oath of Office, is made out by the anonymous government/media disinformation agents/provocateurs who prowl these Internet newsgroups/forums to be somehow DIFFERENT from the rest of the average American public, this country ("land of the free and home of the brave") is in serious trouble.
Unfortunately, these disinformation tactics are quite effective in molding the view of a nation of couch potatoes. These psychological techniques result in intimidation of the public. They seed fear and doubt in the minds of conditioned, civilized men and women. They focus mass attention at the lowest base of human consciousness -- on gossip, libel and inane misdirection. It prevents serious communication from occuring and thereby precludes any serious problem-solving which might salvage our Rights under the Constitution and restore to health our dying Republic.
These anonymous AFAB Bullies/government/media disinformation agents/provocateurs have now insinuated themselves into the postings of the "Josephine County Sheriff's Office Bulletin Board" and "JOCO_SheriffsWatch." YOU'VE BEEN INFILTRATED -- PAY ATTENTION!!
Look to the spirit of these posts. They are SATANIC in nature. Nothing honest or straightforward about them! Inattention and fear feed this kind of shadow-dwelling character assassination by government/media provocateurs. It's time these anonymous government/media henchmen were unmasked and held responsible for their crimes against the Republic and the human spirit.
Since Sheriff Daniel's Office has been used as a platform for disinformation and libel, I ask that those who understand the significance of such investigation when it comes to our local community and our country at large, write, call or email Sheriff Daniel and demand an investigation be launched into the government/media mind control case, the same investigation the FBI has refused to conduct since 1997.
One such disinformation agent who operates under a host of aliases, who has numerous ties with the government, Intelligence Community, Broadcast and print media, and long-term ties to a Southern Oregon hypnosis expert/cult leader is Grants Pass small time journalist Ed Wilkinson. This info has been given to the authorities, yet they refuse to move on it.
The investigation is a SLAM DUNK. All that is necessary for a successful conclusion/prosecution is for the authorites to check on the ISPs used by the perpetrators, traced to the number of aliases used by these individuals, backgroud checks made linking them to their political/media/intelligence occupations over the last eight years, and the case for conspiracy to libel is a done deal.
My question to each of you who read this is -- how can you save yourselves, your family, your sovereignty, your freedom if your conditioned view of the world originates from the daily reinforcement of the BIG LIE by these very people?
Raymond Ronald Karczewski©
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Disinfo Post below:
Usenet reader
Guest
Posted: Thu May 27, 2004 11:20 pm Post subject: The guy needs some help
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I am wondering if anybody in the County government has thought what Ray K needs is not your typical criminal sanctions, but rather, some professional help.
We know Ray is a high-maintenance prisoner.... it's not every criminal who finds a way to get kicked out of jail. But he's trying his best to get back in. What are you going to do when there's another round of fraudulent actions served, driving without a license, or firearms violations? Just my opinion here, Ray is a danger to himself, his family, the people of JoCo, and not least of all, to the motoring public. (If you think Anita is doing the driving, stop deluding yourself.)
And let's not forget the mysterious circumstances under which Raymond received a disability discharge from the Pacifica PD in 1971. And that Raymond was too deep-end for even Roy Masters.
Sure it ain't cheap, but have you ever considered a psychatric evaluation of the man? And you know, there are amazing drugs that can be quite effective at treating some schizophrenics. You never know, Ray Himself might thank you for it afterwards
te
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To JCSO: re The Ongoing FBI Investigation
From: "art_in_heav3n" <art_in_heav3n@y...>
Date: Fri May 28, 2004 5:52 am
I hope Cpl Rarey or Sgt Tripp can answer this. But all information is good.
On Nov 2 1997 a complaint was lodged with the Medford field office of the FBI, demanding an investigation of Government/Media
Sponsored/Supported Disinformation Agents practicing Mind Control
upon unwary Internet Users.
This investgation has been ongoing for 6½ years now. Their is
circumstatial evidence of Sen Ron Wydens office trying to stymie the investigation, under the pretence of helping.
Can you tell us anything abuut the status of this investigation. We know at least 2 JoCo residence are awaiting the conclusion of the Federal Criminal Investigation to pave the way for them to collect civil damages for Conspiracy to Libel. It is likely liens will be placed.
Thanks for any information, or if the JCSO doesnt know anything about this long anticipated for momentum, maybe the sheriffs office is one of the targets.
Art
Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 11:41:26 -0500
"Quantum Foam Guy" <quantumfoamguy@nospamyahoo.com> writes:
"Raymond Karczewski" <arkent3@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:40b82797.34082388@news.west.earthlink.net...
AFAB Bully/Disinformation Agent Meets JOCO Sheriff's Office
By Raymond Karczewski
rk:>> Is there anybody out there who is willing to join me in
asking the Josephine County, Oregon Sheriff Dave Daniel to
conduct a thorough investigation into cleaning up his propaganda
web site, http://www.cyberhouse.org/public/phpbb2/index.php with
specific attention placed on the forum "Ask a Cop".
rk:>> It must be noted that Anita, my wife, and I are banned from posting or responding to any articles which appear on the forum. This is so, even though neither Anita or I have ever posted an article on the site prior to, or since such banning. Admittedly, the balance of justice here in Josephine County, Oregon is decidedly askew. This kind of heavy-handed, onesidedness is an egregious assault upon the intelligence of the taxpaying public.
qfg: > If you've never attempted to poast a message there, how do you know you were "banned"?
rk: May 22, 2004: When linking to page, the following message was received: Josephine County Sheriff's Office Bulletin Board Interactive Web Site http://www.cyberhouse.org/public/phpbb2/index.php
You have been banned from this forum.
Please contact the webmaster or board administrator for more information.
rk: >> Presently, a current article thread titled "The real skinny on Big Ray Karczewski" is being posted on the forum "Ask a Cop" by a number of anonymous posters who refuse to identify themselves, yet readily stoop to the libeling of others under the illusion they are immune from prosecution for such criminal acts.
qfg: > "Libel" is not a criminal act.
rk: Conspiracy to commit Libel IS!! (government/media mind-control/disinformation campaign conducted against unwary users of the Internet over 8 year span)
qfg: > Moreover, no libel was posted on the now-defunct message board.
rk: Apparently, defunct IT IS!! Since my message yesterday stating that the Josephine County Sheriff's office bulletin board was being used as as platform for disinformation and libel was posted publicly, I have not been able to access the site. The message appears: "The connection was refused when attempting to contact www.cyberhouse.org"
rk: Remember, Josephine County Taxpayers, and People of America, your tax monies are being used to support this type of government coverup.
rk: Here are some phone numbers to call if the above is not the government service you expect from your public servants:
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Sheriff Dave Daniel DDANIEL@co.josephine.or.us (541)474-5123
Governor Kulongoski: Telephone: 503-378-3111 Fax: (503) 378-4863
Presiding Judge Gerald C. Neufeld: (541) 476-2309
District Attorney Clay E. Johnson: (541) 476-5200
rk: Isn't it time we took back control of our errant public servant government?
Raymond Ronald Karczewski©
RE: [JOCO_SheriffsWatch] AFAB Bully/Disinformation Agent Meets JOCOSheriff's Office
"Kathy L. Dean" <kathylynndean@direcway.com>wrote:
Ray, as you realize, both Nick and I are also banned from the "Ask A Cop" Bulletin Board because we dared to speak the truth. The "truth" is referred to as "FLAMING" by the board moderator, Deputy Sean Rarey. Any and all references that either Nick or I made in regards to what really happened, were immediately removed.Of course being "banned" does not really mean you are BANNED. I can grab my laptop and look at what they are saying anytime I want to. Just don't post any notes because then they have your IP, and instead of just blocking one person from that IP, Rarey bans the whole IP server! I kid you not; he does not know how to delete just one person from the site. Many people that have never even heard of the site prior to this "banning" can't get on there.What's interesting is that it's just mostly cops talking back and forth to one another now. Since this Yahoo Site went up, not one person except a deputy has even bothered posting to their "Chicken Little" section. In just one day, this Yahoo site (which I did not put up and do not own) had more members than their entire Ask A Cop site has collected since it's inception.Ray, I personally don't think it's even worth the effort involved to have it removed. Yes, they are breaking yours and my Constitutional Rights by not allowing us to speak, but after it's revealed what the did during this "Chicken Capture", I don't think there will be many of them left. It's only a matter of time before the house of cards comes tumbling down. They are so corrupt, so evil to the core, so self-serving and arrogant, that they don't even see what they do wrong.They don't understand that sending one officer to a potential bomb threat on a school full of children is normal, whereas sending five officers to capture a chicken isn't. I always forget to mention there was in reality 5 vehicles and 6 men involved in the 1:30AM raid. The Sheriff had an additional car parked on the corner of Powell Creek Road and Water Gap Road, I assume just in case Nick came fleeing down the road naked, chicken in hand.Tripp actually stopped and talked to the officer "standing watch" on the corner for about 10 minutes while Nick was laying prone in the backseat of his vehicle. Tripp assured the other cop that he had the chicken thief safely in custody in his back seat, all cuffed-up really good, and naked, to boot!Bottom Line: It's not worth the effort to have it removed since no one is using it. Yes, they are libeling both you, your wife and Nick and me, but there are other fish to fry, if you know what I mean. I wouldn't be surprised if they removed that whole section soon...K.
