GOVERNMENT AND CHRIST CONSCIOUSNESS: RESIST NOT EVIL -- BOYCOTT IT!!" (The way of Truth, of Christ Consciousness, is anathema to the Satanic mind of man.)

Fri Apr 02, 2004 1:28 am

Revere Publicus Patronus Patria wrote:

Raymond Karczewski (arkent3@earthlink.net) wrote:

rk: >> Then why do you hope?

pr: >  Because faith is the substance of things HOPED for.
And by FAITH I am saved.

rk:  So sayeth a "blind believer" in Satanic Concepts.

pr: >  If you call me an ignoramus one more time, I'm going to blow you off as a NUT

rk:  My, my, defensive and unnerved this morning, aren't you?

pr: >  and you can go Jesus Freak anywhere you want, but you won't do it to me OR mine, unless of course, you are prepared to meet Jesus in person.

rk:  Spoken like a typical judgmental narrowminded bigot.  Can't you hear yourself?

pr: >  So stop trying to insult me and paint me into a corner with your diatribe. Being intelligent and knowlegable is not Satanic.

rk:  So sayeth one who is disturbed at hearing his own words. Look deep within to see who is defensive and who is judging you.  Is it me, or is it you?  Have you not heard the one about "Judge not lest Ye be judged?"

pr: >  I don't claim to know everything, and never have. But I do know when someone is blowing smoke up my ass.

pr: >  And how do I know when that's happening? Because I read the Bible, and judging from your reply to me, obviously more than you have.

rk:  In essence what you are claiming is that the Bible is your chief source of confirming smoking butts, is that it?

rk:  No sir, have you not heard that it is not nice to fool with Mother Nature? Is it not even worse when you try to BS your way out of one's blatant exhibition of prideful ignorance while standing before a Mirror of Truth?

Raymond Ronald Karczewski© -- A Living Christ

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Publicus Patronus Patria wrote:

Fri Apr 02, 2004 3:13 pm  

pr:    RK, you are a very Satanic person.

pr:    "Chist Conscienceness" MY ASS.

pr:    I wouldn't believe you if you were to call fire down from heaven itself.

pr:    You CAN'T be Christian because you are too insolent

pr:    Pepper, be very careful if you have ANYTHING to do with this viper.

Fri Apr 02, 2004 5:39 pm   
     
pr:    Just be careful Pepper, that's all I am going to say.

pr:    I could debate him anywhere anytime, if he'd stop trying to incite me to anger by insulting my intelligence.

pr:    I'm very knowlegeable of the Bible and know the source AS WELL AS THE HISTORY of my rights. He's a mind bender, and that brings sets off my OCCULT ie CULT radar.

pr:    I've won in the Courts here in NC just as he has won in courts in Oregon - SO WHAT.

pr:    Winning in court is NOTHING when you have GOD on your side.

pr:    Just be careful, for by their fruits you shall know them and his fruit to me so far has been ROTTEN.

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GOVERNMENT AND CHRIST CONSCIOUSNESS: RESIST NOT EVIL -- BOYCOTT IT!!" (The way of Truth, of Christ Consciousness, is anathema to the Satanic mind of man.)

Pepper wrote:

Raymond Karczewski (arkent3@earthlink.net) wrote:

Fri Apr 02, 2004 2:50 am
       
p:  > I am sorry to step in here, but I have been reading this all the way down. I am not defending anyone, but to ME, in my humble opinion I see judgementalness and hear patronizing on both sides.

rk:  Pepper, what you and others are observing is a non-typical interchange between a conditioned believer and a Mirror of Truth.  I leave it to you to assign which is which.

p:  > There is a certain amount of disdain in your reponses to PR. I hope you might take a look at that.

rk:  What you are observing is the unvarnished reflections of bigoted believer when his own words are shown to be the source of his own self-judgment.  The harshness felt by him is due to the inescapable clarity of the reflection he is experiencing in prideful judgements/evasions while dealing with a simple man of Truth, a Christ. Our western world is full of such goody-goody Christians who are like the whitened Sepulchres their "Lord and Savior" spoke of.

p:  > I along with almost everyone I know have to fight that tendency and much of it is from defensiveness.

rk:  Whereas you see it, he merely feels it.  He is still flying Spiritually blind while guided by his computer-like, Satanic Intellect.

p:  > I am human as are all of us and that weakness is one that is the hardest to overcome.

rk: Do not make the mistake of excusing weakness in yourself and others for a virtue. That accounts for the very nature of the SATANIC BASSACKWARDS world we live in. Face it, expose it, and get beyond it.  That is the only way to real fundamental change in the satanic afflicted human intellect.

p:  > Addressing him (PR) with compassion and understanding would probably work better, but then I really don't know.

rk:  If one feeds spiritual vampires, they only grows stronger while those who spiritual vampires feed upon becomes diminished.  Is that not the way of the present world today?  Face the bully who will schmooze you on one hand while demonizing you on the other. 

rk:  As an example, did not pr say"

pr: > I feel strongly that RK is a good and Godly man.

rk:  When his schmoozy seduction did not take, did he not follow it up with:

pr: > RK, you are a very Satanic person.

pr: > "Chist Conscienceness" MY ASS.

pr: > I wouldn't believe you if you were to call fire down from heaven itself.

rk:  Is not this typical ploy used repeatedly by countless hypocritical, manipulative christians when sowing hatred and division in the world under the guise of salvation?  

rk:  Nutty, isn't it?  Yet how many are able to see it?  Those who do see it, how many will just capitulate to such evil and "go along to get along?" No pepper, the hell of this world is seeded in these basic relationships.

p: > I like the basic premise you have provided in addressing the "Truth" and I am very interested in knowing more, but I did want to point out what I am seeing here without attacking anyone. I pray that I have succeeded. hahahahaha

rk:  The key to raising the hidden hell behind human action is not found in attacking other (resisting evil) but in MIRRORING IT!!!  Unfortunately, IGNORAMUSES tend to attack the  MIRROR ( the Messenger).

Raymond Ronald Karczewski© -- A Living Christ

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GOVERNMENT AND CHRIST CONSCIOUSNESS: RESIST NOT EVIL --  BOYCOTT IT!!" (The way of Truth, of Christ Consciousness, is anathema  to the Satanic mind of man.)

Pepper wrote:

Raymond Karczewski (arkent3@earthlink.net) wrote:

06:19 AM 4/3/04

Pepper,

rk:  Most of what you say in this communication is attributed to walking the spiritual gauntlet while dualististic judgments line up on each side, attempting to knock you off balance while you tread the narrow way (razors edge) of Truth.  That is the confusion you speak of.


rk: The level of "conscience" is already the beginning of Satanist activity, as it is the struggle between dualistic choices.  One must transcend that level of noise to access the nondualistic energy of TRUTH, of LOVE, of DIVINE INTELLIGENCE, of WHAT IS untrammelled by judgments born of SATANIC OPINION (partial reflections).

rk: What I have just said to you is IMPOSSIBLE to the SATANIC intellect.  Spiritual realization is the impossible made manifest as the POSSIBLE in the emergence of holistic (nondualistic) direct perception/insight.  That is the energy of TRUTH, of LOVE made manifest in life.  All the other human characterizations (ideas) of love, of truth, are merely SATANIC BS masquerading as the ineffable.

rk: The path to TRUTH is SILENCE.  Not the manufactured silence of intellectual methodologies sold to blind believers as meditative (self-hypnosis) exercises. Anything authored by the intellect is always dualistic (SATANIC), and therefore caught in the confusion of the opposites and therefore exploitable. Perhaps now you see the part that power and wealth oriented organized religions (the modern-day Witchdoctor) play in the life of man?

rk: That is the source of human struggle at its subtle levels.  All one need do is look at the world of man based in such SATANIC THOUGHT, and one observes the gross manifestation at the fruit brought forth by the seeds sown at the subtle levels of consciousness.

rk: Pepper, I don't ordinarily engage in private conversations regarding matters of the Spirit, as the civilized world of man is starving for the Truth, yet too dumb and prideful to see and partake of it when it is pointed out right under their noses.

rk: As such, I would ask your permission to post this or remove your identity (Pepper) and post it.  Yours is not an individual experience.  It is shared by all who, unfortunately, still live life in their minds.

rk: Truth requires that if it can be spoken to one, it can be spoken to the world.  It is secrecy which bars the liberation of Spirit and ensures the SATANIC hold the intellect has upon the materially enslaved.

Raymond Ronald Karczewski© -- A Living Christ

p:  > I was going to answer you in red on each item, but, you know, your right about all this and its very confusing to me.  I am just now becoming more aware of my internal voice on a conscious level and I have learned how to surrender to it.

p:  > I agree with you about the intellect.  I used to "will" things to be the way I wanted them and I got a huge lesson years ago (7 to be exact) and I stood on the street by a payphone and said to God, "I surrender" and I did.
hahaha

p:  > Now, tho, I am becoming more aware.  I agree that his turn around on you was a bit weird.  That to me did make it a seduction since he didn't follow up even with your response by saying the same thing and being consistant.

p:  > About 1 month ago I started reading the Bible again.  This time I decided only to read Jesus own words in the gospels and its strange but after a life time of seeing it one way, this time I see it much different.  His teachings are hardly ever referenced by Christians when they want to make a point.
ITs always the old testament and the letters, but almost never the gospels and Jesus own words.  I found it strange.

p:  > When I was getting back into studying the Bible again I had a lot of volunteers who wanted to help me.  I listened to them and got so confused over what was the right thing, that I told them all to go away.  I was going to pray and ask for guidance and read it myself with no one elses input.  It worked since I can feel the truth of Jesus words.

p:  > Most of the Christian writings that I have read were about fear, salvation etc instead of the Love of God and Jesus.  He said that love and fear cannot occupy the same space (my words not his directly, hahaha) and he said you can't have love of God without love of your neighbor.

p:  > He also opposed violence yet said to defend ourselves.  Anyway, I am rambling.  I am glad to have met you, the timing is really incredible. Someone is watching out for me cause this happens to me all the time.  What ever I am in need of appears at the right time.  Thanks for your patience and contributions.  If I ask questions they will be real ones.  I assure you of that.  P

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Just a question

Pepper wrote:

Raymond Karczewski (arkent3@earthlink.net) wrote:

 04:31 PM 4/3/04

p:  > You said this in your last email and I was wondering if you could explain it a bit more??  I will put the pertinent words in red that are giving me the most trouble.
 
P:  >  rk wrote  The level of "conscience" is already the beginning of Satanist activity  as it is the struggle between dualistic choices.  One must transcend

P:  >  (what method does one use to do that??)

rk:   OBSERVE, OBSERVE, OBSERVE,  ( but do not make it into a method)  just watch your thoughts arise and fall without being caught up by them.  In essence BOYCOTT your thoughts, do not lend your energy to them.  The thoughts will eventually drop away and true silence will arise.   THAT IS AWARENESS. THAT IS DIRECT PERCEPTION.  THAT IS THE KEY TO SPIRITUAL LIBERATION.  Discern the subtleties of vibrations (energy resonance) between noise and silence.  That is what Jesus meant when He said that one must die (end the activities of the Intellect) to the mind to be reborn of the SPIRIT. 

rk:   Understand that intellection is absolutely necessary when one must communicate with others and  resolve technical problems (mechanical problems)  but is a barrier to the awareness required to understand the NONTECHNICAL problems of life.


P:  >  rk: wrote: that  level of noise to access the nondualistic energy of TRUTH, of LOVE, of  DIVINE INTELLIGENCE, of WHAT IS untrammelled by judgments born of SATANIC OPINION (partial reflections)."  Will this be clearer to me when I read your book???

rk:   Probably not.  My book is a primer for those hopelessly ruled by thought.  It is a small book, but loaded if read quietly while observing one's habitual psychological reactions to it.  The key to that understanding for which you search for a lifetime  begins when you STOP SEARCHING and just observe.

Hope this helps.
 
                       Ray


Sat, 3 Apr 2004 17:31:07

P:  Actually, that is very clear!  I am surprised?  hahahaha  I know the passage in the Bible that you refer to since I read it only recently and I didn't understand it when I read it.
 
P:  Now it makes sense!  I can see the truth of it regarding "observing" rather than seeing with the Mind through our perceptions.   Its the perceptions that prevent us (since they are unique to each of us) from connecting in understanding or unity as you said.
 
P: Ha, I think I got it.  At least the beginning. You didn't always know these things, tell me how you evolved to this since its also very simple in concept (probably difficult to overcome since the mind is tricky).  Will practice observing with no judgement.  I know, don't make it into a "method" since it defeats the purpose.  Will let you know.  Thanks again, P

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Bible Vs Truth

"DW Suiter"  (dwsuiter@toast.net) wrote:

Sun, 4 Apr 2004 06:07:21 -0700


Throughout many centuries God has revealed truth to some of man by inspiring truth in the minds of these men. But truth, which the Word from God portrays accurately, is not what is found in what man calls the "bible."

The bible was created by religionists. Religionists speak of God in
religious terms. The truth from God cannot be understood by any person who
has not been taught truth by God for with truth from God comes understanding of what the Word portrays.

Religionists did not and cannot understand what the word of those inspired
by God portrays. Lack of understanding prevents them from seeing what is
being said.

Consequently, the "bible" is an attempt by religionists to portray what
others have said concerning God.

But there is a problem. The problem is there are two different languages
being spoken. One, is the truth by those receiving truth from God. The other
is the religious interpretation by those who are not "of" God.

Because of this, the "bible" is certainly not the Word of God. It is the
word of man who attempted to understand what those who were inspired by God said. This is not possible for the religionists lacked understanding of what
was being said. Understanding of the Word from God comes from God alone. Man cannot apply proper understanding when their mind is void and empty of this understanding.

As a result of the religionist's attempts to "interpret" what the inspired
ones wrote, truth is perverted and polluted, and changed into what carnally
minded dead people see and understand concerning God.

Jesus of Nazareth, who was inspired by God with truth, spoke of God in
"other tongues" which is to speak of God in "another way" or in "other
terms."

His word portrayed God accurately, which is in conflict with the religious
view and understanding of God. He was hated and despised because of the word he spoke.

The Jews were so far removed from God; separated from God and truth; they
could not begin to understand what he was speaking of. The Jews only knew
and understood religiosity; religious doctrines and teachings that were not
an accurate portrayal of God and the matters of God.

In this day, those who are called "Christians" are also far removed and
separated from God and the truth of God. They are not true "Christians."
They have not followed the way of Christ. They have not followed the taught
by Jesus of Nazareth in and by which a person gains knowledge and
understanding of the truth.

These, have followed the way of religion, the way of Judaism and other
religions. Their minds and spirits have been created by fellow man and
fellow religionists. They are not the creation of God. They do not know God
and are not known by God as "His." They are not one "of and with God."

Religionists in this day are the same as religionists were in the day Jesus
of Nazareth taught truth concerning God and the way to know the truth
concerning God. Religionists interpret "scriptures" according to what they
have been taught concerning God. They have not been taught truth. They have been taught by fellow man and not God.

For instance, Jesus of Nazareth declared a person must be "born again."
Religionists have no knowledge nor understanding of the reality his word
portrayed. He spoke of a person receiving the Seed from God, which cannot
occur until the mind is made clean; until everything man teaches concerning
God is removed. Then, the Seed from God causes conception, which is the
beginning of a new mind and a new person. This is the beginning of the
creation of and by God which God alone accomplishes.

The new creation grows and as this creation grows, the old creation
diminishes, or dies away. This is the reality of the killing off of the old
man; the reality of the shedding of this blood.

This person is transformed in this manner by God, leaving all that this
person was and becoming a new creation, created by God in mind and spirit.
This, is the reality of being born again, born of God as the Son of God.

This same person must be born of the spirit and the water from God.
Metaphors which speaks of the "Holy Spirit" and the Word from God which
refers to the "waters above."

This is but one instance of the difference between the truth from God and
false religious teachings. However, all matters found in the "bible" are
matters incorrectly interpreted by religionists and taught as truth. The
main lie taught by religionists is the lie that states man cannot be taught
truth by God. By saying this, they present themselves as "anti-Christ" being
against the way of Christ as taught by Jesus of Nazareth.

There is no other way to gain knowledge of the truth concerning God. God
alone teaches truth concerning the matters of God. All others are false
teachers of religions.

This  matter is seen as the cause of mankind remaining separated from God
and remaining in spiritual death. Religionists are spiritually dead for they
do not possess the Holy Spirit from God. This Holy Spirit is what God
inspires in the mind. If what has been inspired in the mind has not come
from God it is not "Holy."

No, religionists have not been appointed nor established by God as
spokespersons for God. No person has been set up by God as a replacement for God. Man has done this by his own hand against the will of God.

God has declared only God is the Creator of the Creation of God. God has
declared only God will engrave His Word in the inner parts of man. If the
word engraved in the inner parts has not been engraved by God, it is not the
Word from God and is not the truth from God.

There are no exceptions.

Those who have been taught truth by God teach the same principles Jesus of
Nazareth taught, doing the same works Jesus of Nazareth performed.
Specifically, teaching the way to know the truth which this word presents.

But mankind has believed the religionists and their false teachings and are
the same as the religionists who confronted Jesus of Nazareth with their
religious judgment. They refused to believe the truth he spoke, choosing to
retain their beliefs in false religious doctrines.

They refused to believe man may seek and find God; ask and receive from God; what God has promised. They refused to believe he was the Son and Creation of God. They awaited a carnal being; a physical being called "Messiah" which would save their carnal being.  They did not and could not understand matters of spirit.

In regards to this, Jesus of Nazareth told them they searched the scriptures
thinking in them to find their life, but the scriptures only speak of him;
the Son and creation of God who lived this life they sought. No person may
possess this life unless they are given this life by God. Scriptures and the
bible cannot give man this life. Certainly religionists cannot give this
life for they are spiritually dead.

Jesus of Nazareth taught his disciples how to ask God for what God has
promised, assuring them, that if they followed the way he taught, they would
surely receive. These later declared they had asked and received this
promise. This, is the way taught by Jesus of Nazareth in and by which man
gains knowledge of the truth. There is no other way.

DW Suiter
Son of God

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A Letter To: Sheriff Dave Daniel, Josephine County Oregon: Please fix this problem...

Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2004 10:15:42 -0700

Roland Croteau (rolandcro@earthlink.net)  writes:

"Kathy L. Dean" (kathylynndean@direcway.com)

rc:   Good Morning Dave,


rc:   I hope this finds you well and in good spirit.

rc:   Please see the cc I received below regarding the already famous "chicken caper". The people of Josephine County have lost their minds. "The system" for doing what it is and the people for putting up with it.

rc:   You and your department are in the news again. The "system" you are a part of nearly killed one man for a "highbeam" infraction and now this "chicken caper". How do you defend your position?? Are you "just enforcing codes"? The Nazi's tried that defense.

rc:   When we visited with you last year you told me you were a "Christian". I gave you a copy of an audio presentation entitled "THE Law" [meaning God's Laws]. We also discussed.., ENFORCING God's laws vs. man-made color-of -law, laws.  YOU CAN'T DO BOTH!!

rc:   Please show me and the rest of the world where, in God's Laws, Nick and Kathy broke His Laws.

rc:   Worldly "law enforcement" may hide behind their badges and the might of "the system" [political power comes out of the end of a gun barrel] but they/you WILL be held accountable before THE JUDGE of all men.

rc:   May I strongly recommend you GIVE UP "enforcing" "the evil that men do" and LEARN God's Laws. God's Laws ARE THE ONLY LEGAL LAWS FOR THIS PLANET. Every man-made "law system" is a travesty. This, your latest INSANE episode, only PROVES this fact.

rc:   A war like this world has never seen is coming to establish God's Laws AS the ONLY legal Law's for this planet. At the moment.., it is CRYSTAL CLEAR.., you are on the WRONG side.

rc:   We are recommending copies of this post be sent far and wide. To any who receive this.., kindly contact me for a FREE copy of the audio presentation I personally handed to Sheriff Daniels last year. My e-dress is:   rolandcro@earthlink.net    Decide for yourselves which you would rather live under; the millions and millions of Satanically-inspired, UNJUST man-made laws or The Two Great Laws as given us by Jesus, The Christ.

rc:   Regardless of what you say Dave.., YOU R ACTIONS speak to who you work for.

rc:   Long live The Fighters for God,
Roland

Begin forwarded message:


From: "Kathy L. Dean" <kathylynndean@direcway.com>
Date: Sat Apr 3, 2004  9:07:37 PM America/Phoenix

Dear Sheriff Daniel,
 
kld:   It was recently brought to my attention that Deputy Rarey "assumed" that a note that was posted on your "Ask A Cop" Bulletin Board was mine.
 
kld:   The accusation that I wrote it does not bother me at all.   What does bother me is that this is supposed to be a "Bulletin Board" where citizens of Josephine County can voice their opinions anonymously.   Your so called Webmaster should be relieved of his responsibility for betraying the trust of the citizen's of Josephine County.
 
kld:   Another matter of great interest to me is the fact that Deputy Rarey seems to be choosing what is to appear on the Bulletin Board.   I know for an absolute fact that many e-mails voicing concern about what you did to my husband and me were not posted.   Quite a few people put me on Cc: or Bcc: to the letters they send to Deputy Rarey and to you.
 
kld:   The greatest of all my concerns, is the fact that Deputy Rarey is talking to himself.   As anyone knows, the HTML code is easily read on anything posted to a web site.   If you look at the HTML code on all the "nasty" answers posted to people that have commented about your vendetta against Nick Gombos, you will note that Deputy Rarey wrote the notes himself.
 
kld:   Only Deputy Rarey can answer why he is doing this.    I can only assume that maybe you are not getting any "positive" mail at this juncture in time.   I will attach the HTML code at the bottom of this note so you can see for yourself that what I am saying is true.
 
kld:   Also, please request that Deputy Rarey cease from sending me e-mail.   Number one, it's unsolicited and I in no way requested it, and number two, I believe it's illegal to have an officer to keep harassing a victim.   Before my husband's arrest Deputy Matt Tripp must have phoned me 10 times threatening to arrest my husband for a Felony, plus take away all his gun and voting rights.   I consider that to be harassment.
 
kld:   Now, after all the trauma, pain and shock you have put us through, I have Deputy Sean Rarey sending me e-mails.   I am kindly asking that you have him cease and desist from doing so immediately.

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A message from Lisa Heathman-Karczewski...

Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 00:51:43 -0700

"Kathy L. Dean" wrote:

"Lisa L Heathman" wrote:

kld:  I have been receiving literally hundreds of e-mails per day, but this one I thought too important to not pass on.   Lisa's father, Ray Karczewski, was jailed by the Josephine County Sheriff's Department on two different occasions, both resulting in hunger strikes on Ray's part.   I have talked to Ray on the phone several times, and the original arrest was based on a failure to dim his car's head lights, and things snowballed from there.

kld:  When Ray was near death, the JoCo Sheriff's did literally leave him at a hospital because I can only assume they did not want him dying on their shift.   How would that look?

kld:  I know that Ray, and his family, are shocked that a chicken gets more press than a person, as am I.   My only conclusion is that a person going on a hunger strike is "believable" whereas someone being arrested for rescuing a chicken isn't.   It's the old National Enquirer syndrome; the weirder the story, the more press it gets.   First time I have thought of that; better contact them tomorrow!

kld:  Lisa, I want you to know we are fighting this battle for your father, and every single other person who has been wronged in this county, and hurt both physically and mentally by the JoCo Sheriff Department.   This isn't just for us.

kld:  If it took a chicken to get the word out, then bless that chicken!   No one knows where she came from; all employees at Ray's Market say she just showed up one day last month.   I think God placed her there for Nick to pick up and bring home to us.   We truly loved her the six days she spent with us.   She had grass and a pond and trees and worms and everything that a parking-lot chicken is denied.

kld:  And Lisa, I know you have not been getting my updates, but if we do get a substantial settlement from this lawsuit, the first thing on our list is to see that people that have been damaged by the Sheriff's are taken care of.   The second thing is to get Speckles back and the third thing...well I don't know yet.   With love and understanding for your pain, K.

--------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Lisa L Heathman

Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 19:21:37 -0700

llh:  "My father, Raymond Karczewski, tested our (meaning OUR - you are included) Constitutional rights, backed up by TWO hunger strikes (totaling 55 days) spending  many agonizing days fighting for our unalienable rights as US Citizens - this all stemmed by failure to dim headlights. 

llh:  After living what folks see as the "motto" Live Free or Die, and the courts unable to refute the basic premise of a human being, the Josephine County jail escorted and abandoned him on a hospital curb (literally) so they wouldn't be responsible for a human death when they didn't fulfill their job duties, and when he demanded his country's response.  Dad made his point or he would be dead and your Government wouldn't resort to Chicken Poop Policies.

llh:  Still not sure why Speckles is politically important -- other than being a "mascot" by a company who couldn't care less and their  mascot is wandering aimlessly.  Speckles probably is a fine chicken - don't know her personally, nor should I need to, SHE'S A CHICKEN...   (Comment by Kathy...Turns out Speckles was not even a "Mascot" as the Sheriff claimed.   She had shown up two to three week prior to Nick picking her up.) ...then someone gets their  "want ad" magazine and finds poultry by their mailbox and gives it chicken kibble.

llh:  This is where self-important, megalomaniacs wander into fowl territory.  Clay E. Johnson, your District Attorney, has made rural Oregon safe for chickens (delinquent or otherwise).   The chicken is held in more esteem than people in your county. (Comment by Kathy...Ray's Market now gets daily "Chicken Patrols" by the Sheriff to ensure Speckle's safety.)

llh:  A judge was awakened in the middle of the night to sign the "warrant" in this case.  Judge Gerald Neufeld actually signed this asinine warrant (although the warrant asked for the signature of Circuit Court "Jude" - is this "Judge",  or "Dude"). "Technicalities" should at least require correct spelling if you want to "seem" superior.

llh:  Obviously the school system is not helping so far, and you are jumping through hoops trying to please YOUR government.  People are NOT required to fulfill government; government is here for the sole purpose of protecting Americans' Constitutional Rights. (phonetically = Amerikans Konstitushunal Rites).

llh:  So fear not, Oregon, you are safe from Speckles - such a dangerous chicken that she has a name; but you, yourself,  will be tested (possibly fatally) on your Constitutional Rights as a Citizen of the United States.  You best not "disobey" YOUR government - they will try their best to intimidate you.  Remember, "Speckles" is free - her benefactor is not.   You who believe what you're told may be safe temporarily; true Americans are not unless we make it so.

llh:  Speckles was cared for by two caring people (who ELSE would save a chicken), and they were paid back by a man being arrested in his Speedos and nothing else (author's note: a diabetic should never save a wayward mascot - could cause early-morning arrest by five deputies who look lovely in their Kevlar while inflicting serious injury to the feet - a known diabetic problem with pretty much everyone but the court).  All this while the felons get released. (Saves serving them chicken dinners...).

llh:  You are America - not the other way around.  "Speckles" is safe - you are not.

llh:  I thank my lucky stars I don't live in your community; although this is the direction we are all headed. In my next life I'd like to be a JoCoChicken.

Lisa Karczewski

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John 14: 6 - 7l  A simple man of Truth said "I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him and have seen him."  When will Civilized man realize what Jesus of Nazareth realized and preached -- That God is Truth. Love is Oneness with Truth. When duality ceases -- LOVE IS. In that eternal moment we are all Sons of God, indeed Christs. However, through powerful Satanic institutions of mindcontrol and belief headed by Scholars and Priests, man has been cursed to muddle through life worshipping the false "god" of intellect with all of its conflicting images all the  while eschewing TRUTH which is evident all around yet hidden in plain sight from the Spiritually blind.  As such, civilized man has "Fallen from Grace" and suffers from Amnesia of his True Estate.

Raymond Karczewski--A Christ Without Amnesia

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Angela Kahealani (angela@kahealani.com)wrote:

Raymond Karczewski (arkent3@earthlink.net) wrote:

Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 21:52:58 -1000

rk: >> God is Truth -- Satan is Illusion
rk: >> When duality ceases -- LOVE IS.

ak:  > So, when you stop separating Satan from God, there will be Love, but until that time YOU are creating duality, destroying LOVE.

rk:  Do you not see the self-insertion of your technically-oriented/judgmental, unhealthy ego into such a simple statement?

ak:  >  Ya know Ray, I've tried to defend your sovereignty position.

rk:  I do not require the services of SATANIC Intellects to come to my defense.

ak:  >   but I see that YOU have chosen this insane mix of newsgroups to cross post to, so EVEN I have to declare you my enemy.

rk:  My My, territorial, aren't you?  How divisive of you!!  SATANIC, ISN'T IT?

ak:  >  This mix of nesgroups CANNOT ever, no matter WHAT you post, ever be an appropriate combination... so whatever you post to this set of newsgroups is OFFTOPIC in at least one of them and anyone who posts off topic IS SATAN.

rk:  IGNORAMUSES can found everywhere.  Why limit the venue to redemption?

ak:  > When you're tired of playing martyr, saviour, or victim, then come back to alt.society.sovereign, but until then take your
self-created hell elsewhere Ray. Take the Christianity to a Christian group.

rk:  Perhaps you ought to pay closer attention to what is written, and not to your own self-projected prejudices.  Christian groups are but the "tip of the SATANIC ICEBERG" of the groups I address.

ak:  > Take the victimhood to a support group.

rk:  No victim here. Are you saying you are being victimized by my posts?

ak:  > If you wanna piss off the maximum number of people with off topic postings, please skip alt.society.sovereign, where the topic of discussion is either a society built of sovereigns, or the relationship of sovereigns with society.

rk:  If you feel that way, wouldn't it be simpler if you just ignored my posts?  BETCHA CAN'T DO IT!!  You see, such knee-jerk
anger, frustration and need for control over others is compulsive and those cursed by it are drawn to the Mirror of Truth even as a moth is drawn to the flame and its own destruction.  You have just provided another clue to a SATANIC INTELLECT in operation, have you not?

ak:  > A sovereign is harmless to others, and doesn't offtopic post.

rk:  Baloney!!  TRUTH is always PERCEIVED as harmful and unwelcome by parochial SATANIC Intellects which fear exposure.  Your post only proves that.

ak:  > A society has rules, and the society of UseNet DEMANDS ON-TOPIC posting, and provides so many thousands of newsgroups that you CAN find an ontopic newsgroup to post to no matter what you have to say.

rk:  How parochial of you!!  Can you not conceive of anyone in search of truth to find it where they may least expect it?  I post TRUTH to the winds. Where Truth falls and upon whom is ITS BUSINESS, not mine.

ak:  > Post on topic, or post elsewhere. It's THE LAW.

rk:  God's law is TRUTH.  Man's law is SATANIC.  Which law
do you abide by?

   Raymond Ronald Karczewski© -- A Christ without Amnesia
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ak:  > Copyright 2004 Angela Kahealani. All rights reserved without prejudice; UCC1-207. All information and transactions are non negotiable and are private between the parties. http://www.kahealani.com/

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PrivacyJack wrote:

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 4:50 am       

ak: > When you're tired of playing martyr, saviour, or victim, then come back to alt.society.sovereign, but until then take your self-created hell elsewhere Ray. Take the Christianity to a Christian group.
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ak: > If you wanna piss off the maximum number of people with off topic postings, please skip alt.society.sovereign, where the topic of discussion is either a society built of sovereigns, or the relationship of sovereigns with society.

pj:  So, where does Angela think her sovereignty comes from? I always wonder how people who do not acknowledge their Creator, and the Way the Truth and the Life, arrive at this conclusion.

ak: > Post on topic, or post elsewhere. It's THE LAW.

rk: God's law is TRUTH. Man's law is SATANIC. Which law do you abide by?

pj:  You definitely nailed this Ray! The Creator's Law is eternal, righteous and unchanging. Man's law spews from the mouths of tyrants and the barrels of guns....I choose the Creator's Law...

Keep on swinging Ray!
_________________
"I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." --Thomas Jefferson

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Date: 11 Apr 2004 07:38:13 -0700

ammitusen-@excite.com (Ayin) wrote:

Raymond Karczewski (arkent3@earthlink.net) wrote:

John 14: 6 - 7l  A simple man of Truth said "I am the way, the
truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from> henceforth ye know him and have seen him."  When will Civilized
man realize what Jesus of Nazareth realized and preached -- That
God is Truth. Love is Oneness with Truth. When duality ceases --
LOVE IS. In that eternal moment we are all Sons of God, indeed
Christs. However, through powerful Satanic institutions of
mindcontrol and belief headed by Scholars and Priests, man has
been cursed to muddle through life worshipping the false "god" of
intellect with all of its conflicting images all the  while
eschewing TRUTH which is evident all around yet hidden in plain
sight from the Spiritual blind.  As such, civilized man has
"Fallen from Grace" and suffers from Amnesia of his True Estate.

  Raymond Karczewski--A Christ Without Amnesia


a: >  seems you're over simplifying to me.  you show that dualistic either/or mentality that you're preaching against ... as if the universe is only black and white and one must choose between the two. but thats not how reality is (from my perspective)...

rk:  Yet, such oversimplification remain incomprehensible to the rigid, reactionary, divisive intellects of SATANIC-ruled IGNORAMUSES.  Just that one insight alone ought to be a spiritual eye-opener for all yet observe for yourself the level of intelligence operating presently in human civilization based on such dualistic intellectual conceptualism.

a: >   reality IS conflicting images and a variety of perceptions. 

rk:  Yes, SATANIC (OPPOSER) isn't it?  The clarity of "WHAT IS" is ALWAYS skewed by intellectual conditioning.

a: >   it's strange to me that religious folks dismiss the intellect while using thiers to further thier own point of view.

rk: Its called IGNORANCE. All POINTS OF VIEW necessarily are PARTIAL therefore divisive.  That is what is meant by SATANIC (dualistic/opposing).  Do you now see the hypnotic hold SATANIC influence has on the minds of civilized men?

a: >    i agree that humans have a bad habit of worshipping false thought constructs in an effort to simplfy the complex nature of reality and that many are brainwashed to take symbolisms literally ... like God versus Satan ... and by the taking
literally of these myths are controled by institutional religions.

rk:  Sir, you and I have not come to an intellectual agreement but to an UNDERSTANDING (At-onement in awareness).  The former is dualistic, the latter nondualistic.  Quite a different vibration, is it not?

a: >   but it is by the exercise of intellect that one can free oneself from the constraints of superstition and dogma.

rk:  That sir, is a self-imprisoning deception.  All thought is partial and therefore incapable of grasping that which lies beyond its limitation.  Speculation is not the same as direct, nondualistic resonance with TRUTH.  Men of Truth, Christs, TALK OF direct perception of Truth, everybody else TALKS ABOUT it. See: THE WISE MAN and the SCHOLAR http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialchs3.htm#WISE

a: >   the universe is endless variety and each one of us adds our perception of those variation to the beauty or ugliness (value judgements, of course) of "God" manifesting. 

rk:  That is TRUE!!

a: >   "good" is that which comforts you, makes you feel safe,
secure and fulfilled.  "evil" is that which threatens your survival ... "evil" is the predator that lurks in the undergrowth.

rk: That is TRUE also!!

a: >   Satan is your imaginary predator that you fear can attack and consume your soul.

rk: That too is also TRUE!!  That is why reality is illusion, NOT TRUTH.

a: >   in spite of all your spirituality you're still working from your base animal survival instincts. 

rk:  You sir, fail to factor in that I am addressing newsgroups and forums occupied by those who live in IGNORANCE, yet they derive no BLISS from it. Admittedly, that statement does not address bible-thumping, parroting christians who have gone off the spiritual deep end while being influenced by positive images and kindly words. They are grand contributors to HELL on earth. Their actions bring horrendous pain and suffering while they remain immersed in pleasurable imagery.  That is why I call their momentum BASSACKWARDS!! They ignorantly violate their own First Commandment which may be paraphrased thus:  I AM TRUTH, THOU SHALT NOT WORSHIP IDEAS (reflections) OF TRUTH BEFORE ME!!


a: >   this is not a criticism because as living creatures it's natural for us to fear the predator. 

rk:  FEAR is merely a symptom of a SATANIC intellect.

a: >   however .. now that we humans are at the tip top of the food chain our predator fear has be sublimated to the realm of imagination.

rk:  SATANIC, isn't it?  


a: >    we have become our own predator.  we have only ourselves to fear.

rk:  When spiritually vampiric IGNORAMUSES cease to feed upon others, what is left but to feed upon themselves?  Hell, isn't it?

Raymond Ronald Karczewski© -- A Christ Without Amnesia

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ammitusen-@excite.com (Ayin) wrote:

Raymond Karczewski (arkent3@earthlink.net) wrote:
 
a:  >  well sir ... i don't see much difference between your reactionary, divisive intellectualisms and mine or others folks.

rk:  It comes as no surprise when the spiritually blind mistake direct perception (spiritual mirroring) of a Christ for the observance of their own limited judgments/prejudices.

a:  >  and i am endeavoring not to blame people for often being stpuid.  not everyOne is a genius.  it's not very compassionate to call the unenlightened "IGNORAMUSES".

rk:  Why not expose ignorance and stupidity if it's true?  One may ask, what is your motive for endeavouring to perpetuate such ignorance and stupidity? 

a:  >  every child developes at thier own pace.

rk:  YES, and they learn by their mistakes being pointed out to them by those who understand (Those spiritual adults who have put away the things of Childhood).  A child is by nature ignorant.  When a child adamantly refuses to rise beyond such ignorance, then you have STUPIDITY. Many who possess adult bodies but retain the minds of children precociously mimic, pretend and  possess a command of language are such spiritual children.

rk:  Immersed in fantasy, fairy tales, and blind belief, it is impossible for spiritual children to see that it is misplaced Intellectualism that poisons consciousness and is not the antidote for their spiritual deadness.  

a:  >  let me get this straight ... so are you saying that you, because of your partial point of view, are also IGNORANT and in the hypnotic sway of SATANIC influence? 

rk:  No sir.  You are saying that. You can only see what you can see.  That is a fact. It is your lack of spiritual discrimination that causes you to jump to such a judgmental conclusion.

a:  >  if this be the case ... how is your version of "Truth" more valid than mine or someOne elses?

rk:  Wake up to the spiritual blindness that an imprisoning Intellect binds your consciousness and the question answers itself.  

a:  >   OR are you claiming to have the ability to view reality from a totally objective view point and that's why you feel you have the authority to judge "others"?

rk:  I don't make claims, I state What Is. I don't judge others -- I MIRROR THEM. When they observe the inescapable Truth as they perceive their reflection in the Mirror of Truth, they freak out in self-judgment.  That is the nature of Ignorance and Stupidity expressing itself.

a:  >   LOL you are totally dualistic ... at the very crux you point to "OTHERS" and insult them ... call them SATANIC IGNORAMUSES.

rk:  What is dualistic about seeing the "What IS" without the buffer of SATANIC Intellectual interpreting it?  You don't see that it is not what I say that disturbs you so, it is what you hear as it is filtered through your conditioning that is so disturbing to you!!  "Judge not lest Ye be judged."

a:  >   somehow i don't think standing on an ego pedastal, pointing down at your fellow humans and calling them names will bring them (or you) enlightenment.

rk:  I understand that I have not yet reached the end of this communication with you, but if you will only examine your comments from the beginning to the end of this post you will see that you are heavily steeped in judgement and are frantically attempting to lay it off on another.  In your SATANIC intellect you are merely engaged in a major struggle of opposites when dealing with your own thoughts. "Judge not lest Ye be judged."

a:  >  tell you what sir ... were it not for the gift of my intellect i might still be mired in the guilt ridden, convolutions of christianity and i thank the Supreme Whatever that i was provided enough IQ to free myself.

rk:  Calling guilt by other names does not change anything, does it.  You, like all verbally talented ignoramuses mistake the letter of the word for the spirit of the word.  It is this talent for the letter of the word, along with your ignored skewed perception that binds you to your particular hell.

rk:  Read again your prideful, judgmental comments in this communication and you will see your are in the same hell as when you considered yourself a Christian -- Calling it a different name is only a SATANIC self-deception.

a:  >   i do agree that "God" is beyond the comprehension of the limited human mind. and i believe that in the truth of LOVE we are ALL One spirit.

rk:  But such belief does not manifest in your words and actions, Why?  Why do you rail so when your decidedly divisive momentum is mirrored back to you? 

a:  >   however ... considering the tone of your responses to your detractors, you have as long a Way to go as any of us in
realizing the One Love of "God".

rk:  Sir, you and yours go about in judgment of your detractors.  I merely mirror detractors where they stand. You  admittedly state you have "as long a Way to go as any of us in realizing the One Love of "God" yet you continue to engage in the very divisive activity that ensures it.  Although you do not SEE what I am saying here, do you get a feel for the mirroring that just took place?

a:  >  well ... we'd have to define "reality" and since each person's perception of reality is different we'd have a pretty hard time coming to perfect agreement as to just what reality IS. 

rk:  Talk is cheap. Theorizing about reality is not the same as living reality. When your words and your actions are as one, you will understand the energy you and other experience when reading my posts.

rk:  If you don't like what you hear, don't read my posts. The simple fact is that you and other blind SATANIC (OPPOSER) ruled  minions find that to be impossible.  You have too much judgment to work out in your present conflicted dualistic consciousness.  I understand it.  The problem is that you don't understand the hell created when one attempts to resolve non-technical problems with a technically-oriented Intellect.

a:  >  seems it might be your illusion that you think you know what TRUTH is and what illusion is for everyOne when all you can actually do is decide these "truths"for yourself.

rk:  Perhaps you will produce evidence where I have told others how to live.  I merely mirror how they live.  The rest of the story is told through their SATANIC reactions.

a:  >  you sir, fail to recognize you're own contributions to the illusion you so disparage.  you seem ignorant of the mirror you gaze into, seeing the distortions of "others" while ignoring your own twisting image.

rk:  Perhaps you will point out such distortion while being cognizant that such distortions are not arising from your own judgement?  In other words, don't just talk the talk, walk the walk. It is that holistic essence which is missing in your communications.

a:  >   seems to me your trying to pick the mote out of the eye of "others" while a huge plank remains in your own eye.

rk:  Did you enjoy that reflection while gazing into the mirror of Truth?  You have yet to determine who your real enemy is. Could it in the one whose consciousness is inextricably tied up in "motes and planks?"

a:  >   seems that the "TRUTH" you worship is an idol of your own making and you have decided that we (all us IGNORAMUSES) should bend our knees to your image and ONLY your image ... of "TRUTH".

rk:  I ask for no such thing.  Do you have a glimmer of your own sense of inferiority expressing itself in such a statement? 

a:  >  FEAR ... is a healthy part of the human survival mechanism.  if you didn't have that fear you'd walk blithely into the path of traffic.

rk: Take that kindergarten argument and place it where it belongs -- in the sandbox of ignoramuses.  It certainly doesn't belong in the context of this communication.

a:  >  and your consistant use of the buzz word "SATANIC" appears to be a tactic to incite fear and through that SATANIC threat to sway people to your point of view ie anyOne not viewing rality from your perspective is ignorant and SATANIC.

rk:  My, my, my, there you go again.  Hit a nerve, did we?  Feeling inferior and fearful?

a:  >   again ... at the crux ... you practice what you preach against.

a:  >  um sir ... you're a christian? right?

rk:  Whatever in the world gave you the idea that a Christ is a Christian?

a:  >  you drink Jesus' blood and eat his flesh and then complain about "other" being vampiric?  sheesh man!  look in the mirror.  you reflect the very image you despise.

rk:  I do not drink the blood of Jesus, nor do I eat his flesh. See what I mean about missing the mark?

Raymond Ronald Karczewski© -- A Christ Without Amnesia