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TOTAL AMOUNT OF DAMAGES TO DATE
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February 24, 2004
$239,180,000.00
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In Protest -- Hunger Strike Two -- DAY 22
In protest of the courts continued refusal to answer the challenge of proving jurisdiction over this living, breathing, flesh-and-blood, sentient private man of the sovereign people, I have today, February 3, 2004, apprised the Josephine County authorities that I will not take any food until the twenty-three (23) Proofs of Claim, accompanied by affidavit, submitted to Josephine County District Attorney Clay E. Johnson and the other officials of the county and State of Oregon, have been rebutted, point-by-point, and the courts have resolved this jurisdictional issue in writing as per the law.
Raymond Ronald Karczewski©

From: "DW Suiter" <dwsuiter@toast.net> wrote:
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 08:10:21 -0800
Let's address society. Let's look at what a social order is.
What is a social order and why does it exist?
Is it not a compilation of law? Is not the establishment of way to live? And does not social law declare what is acceptable and what is not?
But who benefits from the social law?
Social law is a structure of "norms." It defines what is normal according to the thinking of the majority.
Social law is more powerful than criminal law. A person has a right to be judged by his peers and the peers have a right to determine whether a person is guilty of a crime and what punishment the person receives regardless of what a judge infers is proper punishment.
If a social order is a "good" social order, it will protect every citizen. It provides for aid to those in need. It provides incentives for man to be creative and productive.
What happens when social law is commandeered by politicians or religionists? It becomes perverted and unjust. And those who suffer injustice in a perverted social order are those who are weak; the downtrodden; the disabled, ill, young or elderly. Why are they named "downtrodden?" They are walked on; put under foot; considered to be unworthy of protection or aid by others in a social order. Commonly referred to as "second class citizens."
If a social order does not protect the rights and privileges of the least it has no protection for any. Any person is subject to misfortune, illness or disability, creating an inability to work or be productive.
Old age is inevitable. New births are inevitable.
A statement by Jesus of Nazareth is misunderstood by most people. When he declared; "If you have done this to the least of these you have done it to me" he spoke of the social order. He spoke of persons who knew and complied with the will of God. Those who learned and obeyed the social laws of God. Those who are often hated and rejected by others in a social order.
This man was found guilty of disobeying and speaking against religious law. He declared there was a higher law of God people should learn and obey because this law structured a much better social order.
In his statement, he spoke of what man does to fellow man. If man is allowed by social law to harm fellow man, he creates a social order where he himself may become the victim. If man desires protection by social law he must create law that protects the least of the social order thereby insuring no person is allowed to harm others.
If he allows injustice in any form, he creates the possibility of being harmed himself.
Most place their faith in money. They believe money will buy their "good life" in a social order. Surely, man's "justice" is often bought by bribery of judges and others. Money is the measure by which most people are judged in man's social order and law.
What makes a good person is usually not considered for the standard of judging a "good man." Money is usually the standard.
According the law of God "Money is not the measure of a man." Knowledge of the law of God and obedience to the laws of God is the measure God declares to be accurate in measuring a person.
Love of money is said to be the root of all evil. When man loves money more than righteousness, his social order becomes perverted and polluted.
When people with money are subject to one law and people without money are subject to another law, there is perversion and pollution. The result is injustice and lack of equality in the way persons are treated.
There are two different sets of social laws that determine how a person is to be treated by others. Those with money have privileges those without money do not.
What a person sows is what he reaps. What a people sow is what a people reap. The sowing is the act of establishing belief in the minds of others; causing others to believe what is said. When man believes money is more worthy of love and respect than righteousness, he brings on himself, the consequences.
A look at the social ills in the USA is a look at the consequences of established social law. Morality cannot be legislated. This has been known for eons. Yet legislators continue to create more and more criminal law. Has
this prevented social injustice? No.
Criminals, or those who violate the "criminal law," seldom intentionally decide to be a criminal. They do sometimes decide to perform an act or action that is declared to be a criminal act. But do they decide to become a criminal or decide to do something based on personal gain in one way or
another?
So is it not the desire to have or possess something that is the motivation factor? Certainly it is not the threat of punishment that motivates a person to commit a criminal act.
When children are raised with teachings of what is right and wrong according to the law of God, they are different people than those who are raised with teachings of what is right and wrong according to the love of money.
Love of money corrupts morality. Greed and desire often causes a person to violate criminal law and social law. The epitome of a self centered, self loving person is the person who rejects morality because of love of money, and thereby rejects the protection of the social law, violating the morality
of social law.
A family is a social order. A family has established ways of interrelating with one another. They know what is right and wrong according to the family social law. Parents continually teach their children this law. When the law is violated the children are often reprimanded and in some cases punished in attempts to change their behavior.
Parents tend to protect their children. It is the law of nature at work, as seen in the animal world. They do not want harm to come to their young, even emotional harm.
When they fail to desire this same protection for the children of others, they fail to see what they are bringing on their selves.
Children grow up to be adults. The ways in which a child is raised determines for the most part, what type and kind of person the child becomes.
Again, the social ills of the current social order are merely the consequences of how children are raised and how they are protected or not protected from what is harmful.
A perfect social order is structured by perfect law. Certain and definite law that protects all people in a social order from harm. When this law is instilled in the minds of the young and children are raised with teachings of why it is important to know and obey this law, only then is a perfect world created; a perfect social order.
Man does not and cannot structure a perfect social order, or "world." Man does not have a desire for a perfect social order. He is too self centered as he has been taught while being "raised up."
However, God has created a perfect world; a perfect social order. All citizens of this social order are required to know and obey the social laws of God. These citizens know these laws are for the good of the people; these laws structure a life that has been described as a life of "peace, love, and joy." In this social order, the mind is free from the many entanglements found in the social order of man that prevent the proper functioning of the mind. The mind is free to be creative in the social order of God. The mind is free to feel and enjoy the love and good will which everyone expresses to one another.
In this manner, the mind is perfected. It is made perfect according to what God predestined a person to be. Man was predestined by God to be "perfect." The correct understanding of the word "perfect" is to perfect knowledge and obedience to the laws of God. In this perfection, is a desire to know and
obey the laws of God because the mind has understood "self" is much better off by knowing and obeying the social laws of God.
According to the law of God that is called "love" insurance is provided that any and all persons experiencing adversity are aided and assisted by all other persons. Those suffering adversity are not seen as "second class" citizens but are seen as the "self" who has experienced adversity. When people treat others as they would like to be treated, then the laws of God are seen. When people see others as "self," they treat others as they would like to be treated. This requires seeing any citizen of a social order being worthy of the application of the love that is of God. The love of God is a law, not an emotion. It is the act, generated by desire, to do for others what a person would like to be done to them in the same circumstances.
Only in and by this law is a person free from adversity; protected from adversity. Only in this social order is a person free from the criminal acts of others. Morality is created by seeing and knowing the laws of God provide for the needs of the people to have a "good" social order.
The law of God is what has created God. "God" refers to a superior person. A person possessing a superior life. God possesses a superior mind and any person of God knows and understands the need for law and order in a social
order, but a "good" law and order.
The example of a person "of" God is Jesus of Nazareth. This man learned the law of God and learned obedience to this law, not out of fear, but by recognizing the "good" that comes from obedience to this law. It was by desire this man learned the laws and principles of God; the desire to have or possess the life this law structures.
This man laid down the life man taught him to live and "took up" or began living life according to the laws of God. He was not the same man nor the same person he used to be. He had been changed and transformed.
Having experienced this, he taught others concerning the matters of God. He spoke of the life a person may live when a person follows the way he became one of and with God.
No man was able to take this life from him. This life continues when passing on from the physical body. This man now lives with the others of God. Those who possess this same mind and spirit as created by God.
If a person does not learn the laws and principles of God, and learn obedience to these, this person cannot be a citizen of the social order of God. There are no exceptions. The law protects the citizens of this family of God and the law declares no person may enter this family unless they are of the same mind and spirit, knowing and willfully obeying the laws and principles of God.
No person may possess this life unless they know and obey the laws and principles of God. It is the knowledge and obedience that creates this life. It is impossible to possess this life without the knowledge and obedience.
Life and death as God declares life and death, refers to this life. Those who possess this life are alive in this life. Those who do not are dead to this life. This life is not in them. There is no life in them and they are dead.
Adam once possessed this life, but died to this life. This death was caused by the act of Adam; the act of losing what God had given him and accepting what another gave him. What was given was "the way to live." Adam laid down the life God gave him and took up the life another taught him to live. Adam chose to no longer be one of and with God. Why? He was deceived. He believed
a lie. He believed life would be better by following principles and laws not of God.
Today, man follows principles and laws not of God. He is in the "death of Adam" by virtue of the "seed" of Adam; the seed that caused the death of Adam; that which was placed in the mind of Adam by another not of God.
Jesus of Nazareth died to the way of Adam. He laid down this way of life in order to live the life God gives. What was once in Adam was resurrected in the man Jesus of Nazareth; knowledge of the laws and principles of God. However, this man remained true and faithful to the laws and principles of God. Adam did not.
Jesus of Nazareth spoke of how man may return to the life God gives. He spoke of being "born again" which is to become a new person; of a new mind and spirit. There is only one way. By the Seed from God, which is what God places in the mind. Only God is able to impart the knowledge and understanding necessary to know and understand the laws and principles of God. In this way alone, is man saved from the death of Adam and raised up in the life God gives.
Religiosity of man is worthless. Religions of man are worthless. Only knowledge of truth is of value and only God is able to impart this truth into the minds of man.
The truth is, there is a far better way to live than what man teaches. There is a way to live life in peace, love, and joy, one with another. But............, the mind must be recreated. Every thing man teaches concerning God must be removed. This includes all religious teachings.
Then, a person must allow God to create the mind with truth. This truth includes knowledge and understanding of the better life structured by the laws and principles of God. Only in this way is man "saved." What is he saved from? The mind man creates in him. The way to live that man has taught him.
The problem man has, is in conceiving the reality of God and this life God structures. The unbelief he has that such a life is possible. Man has been conditioned by fellow man to remain in his box; his own little world the social order of man has created. He cannot take his thoughts away from the confines of the teachings of man. He has been snared and captured by belief in what man teaches. In his thoughts, he is held captive.
But, they are not his thoughts. They are thoughts generated by what man has created in his mind. He has been raised in the social order of man forced to conform to the "norms" man dictates according to social laws of man. Be he a religionist or an atheist; he is held captive by his own mind. He follows what he has been caused to believe.
Man has been taught and has believed he cannot be taught truth by God; cannot become the creation of God in mind and spirit. His beliefs keep him in death in regards to the life God gives. His beliefs keep him separated from God and what God gives. His beliefs prevent the works of creation by God in him.
Such is the work of man in creating the mind and spirit in fellow man. He uses the lies that caused the death of Adam. He refuses to believe the truth spoken by the second Adam; Jesus of Nazareth.
This second creation of man, by God, in mind and spirit was the coming of the "Messiah" of God, or the "salvation" of and by God. This man was saved from the death of Adam, raised up into the life God creates in man.
It was the second "planting" of the Seed from God, which is the "Word" from God. The teachings from God.
In this man is seen the example of the person knowing and obeying the will of God. It is the will of God that all mankind come into this same knowledge and understanding of this same truth. Without knowledge and understanding of this truth, man cannot have the life God gives.
Only God is able to cause man to know and understand this truth. Only God is able to "teach" man this truth.
Those who are "of" God teach others "this way" in and by which man gains knowledge and understanding of this truth. This truth, sets man free from what man has taught; sets man free from the lies.
Argue your beliefs and opinions all you want. It proves nothing. Only when you possess this life; this mind and spirit God creates; do you know the truth. Only then have you "proved" God.
"The way" is indeed narrow and difficult. It requires a lot of mental work, which is something man is not used to doing. Man would rather open the mind to fellow man and allow fellow man to fill it, never proving what is being fed to the mind to be truth or a lie.
Man is how he has created himself to be; in the image of fallen man; fallen Adam; in the death of Adam.
This word will have little if any effect on the majority of those who read it. But, a few will be seeking truth and seeking God. These, will have a desire to become one of and with God. And they will ask for and receive what God has promised. They believe God "is."
They are able to conceive this life I speak of. They are able to see "the way" I speak of. These, will seek and find God and shall be saved.
The others have their place with all other unbelievers; those who cannot enter into citizenship with the family, or social order, of God. Their place is to be together, living life as they now do, remaining separated from God.
DW Suiter
Son of God
STANLEY NOTE: God bless you Ray. I have faithfully passed on yourcorrespondence the last few years to the Stanley Scoop. God bless your stand, you and your family, and our Constitutional Republic that we are trying to revive. The Lord is with his own. Each of us must decide whether we are of the Lord by accepting his gift of everlasting life forged for us by the death of Jesus Christ on the Cross over 2,000 years ago. Accepting that gift from the Lord and asking for forgiveness reserves a place for each of us in the book of life, and was promised in the bible so long ago. I believe this promise and serve the Lord as do you. Stand strong and tall. We are with you. The fight seems so lonely at times. However, the Lord is ALWAYS with his own. Resisting, Boycotting, Standing up to evil, fighting it actively, defending ourselves, are all part of the Lord's plan. The Lord has a plan for us all.
Rick Stanley
To: RICK STANLEY (rick@stanley2002.org) http://www.stanley2002.org
From Raymond Karczewski (arkent3@earthlink.net)
Rick
I write this to you and your followers in hopes that another facet in the return to freedom in our land may be observed by our sleeping brothers and sisters.
My case parallels yours in many ways. My approach in dealing with the criminal, black-robed Pharisees of our time has been that of nonresistance, of boycott.
I stood on God's Law (TRUTH). And for 16 months demanded that Man's Law, (our CRIMINAL COURTS), prove jurisdiction over this Son Of God -- a Living, Breathing, Flesh-and-Blood, Sentient Natural Man. I stood on my common-law rights and unyieldingly demanded the prosecution/courts produce a victim, willing to testify under oath or affidavit, to the claim made against me. In common law, NO VICTIM=NO CRIME. During that 16 months, they pulled every Satanic Trick in the book to evade addressing those two issues, including incarcerating me for 128 days in their efforts to intimidate me into waiving my Rights or consenting to contract to my own persecution/prosecution.
I stood under the protection of Divine Guidance -- GOD -- TRUTH. After two combined hunger strikes totalling 55 days while in custody, the authorities feared that I would die in their custody; and so, unceremoniously, after beginning with pyramiding charges (much like they have done with you) amounting to more than 35 plus years imprisonment (a life sentence as I am presently 66 years old) I was offered a plea bargain of twenty days and two years supervised probation (which I rejected and represented myself Pro Per). I underwent two felony trials, was found guilty but was sentenced to no jail time and two years of supervised probation. I rejected the offer of probation (as it too, is a contract). Yet they set me free.
After their bluff did not work, armed agents for the corporation of Josephine County, Oregon once again kidnapped me at my home and took me away from caring for my ailing wife, (she's on constant oxygen after extended critical hospital care) leaving her unattended for 5 days. Ultimately, on the 22nd day of the second hunger strike, when my health was being monitored and found to be diminishing, I was released from the jail. They did not want the responsibility of ANOTHER inmate death on their hands to explain.
There appears to be no further desire of Josephine County Courts and Government to expose their unlawful and unconstitutional conduct to the taxpayers of Josephine County, State of Oregon and People of America.
My approach was NOT to RESIST EVIL, but to BOYCOTT IT. Without my energy via waiver or consent, Government was impotent to hold
in custody one over whom they had no jurisdiction.
This Jurisdiction ISSUE is the key to liberation of the American People against an everincreasing errant, tyrannical government.
I hope this may guide you in your case. You, Sir, are a man I am proud to call Brother.
Raymond Karczewski©--A Living Christ
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GOVERNMENT AND CHRIST CONSCIOUSNESS: RESIST NOT EVIL -- BOYCOTT IT!!
By: Raymond Ronald Karczewski -- A Living Christ
No, folks, my admission of being a "Living Christ" is neither a joke nor a deception being played upon ignorant and suggestible minds.
It is a wake-up call for millions of slumbering, spiritually-dead, mind-controlled slaves who "dream" of better days to come, while the SATANICALLY ruled world they support through their own manipulatable consent and finances is crashing down upon them.
In the name of GOD, what have you done to yourselves? What kind of world are you leaving for your children? Are you proud of such a display of IGNORANCE? Seems so, doesn't it?
Codependent, helpless spiritual children cower in fear in the shadows cast by threatening political and religious, mind-controlling "BOGEYMEN."
Long-standing psychological conditioning has damned spiritual children to live in a perpetual hypnotic dream state which renders them inert, fearful and hopeless, little more than immature, helpless, hopeless slaves.
It is fear which compels them to look to the very people -- their Machiavellian-manipulative leaders -- the people who caused the problem, to solve the problem. Ask yourself the question: Why should leadership, self-proclaimed experts, solve problems while they profit through such chaos? Wouldn't problem solving ultimately put them out of a job?
WAKE UP, FOLKS, you are BEING HAD! But you're being had at a Spiritual Level through SATANIC control of thought. It has caused you to live in fear, conflict, and unending exploitation. It has eaten away your life's substance, and reduced you to obedient automatons. Oh, you talk a great deal, but what actually do you do about your plight? You must answer that question for yourselves.
The secret to resolving the problems of a SATANICALLY ruled world is not found in violent acts of RESISTANCE through armed revolution. Have you not learned the lessons of history? Have you not learned that such opposition is the very secret of how CHILDREN OF GOD are reduced to mind-controlled minions of SATAN -- the petty "god" of Intellect?
The secret to deliverance from EVIL (endless opposition) is found in the spiritual act of BOYCOTT -- PEACEFUL WITHDRAWAL OF ONE'S SUPPORTIVE SPIRITUAL ENERGY.
Illusions exist only in THOUGHT -- nowhere else!!
Remove your support, financial and psychological. Do not succumb to satanic doubt. Do that, and Illusions die for their obvious lack of substance. See for yourself that the power attributed to SATANICALLY created/ruled illusions arise only through the medium of self-doubt and opposition.
If that simple revelation doesn't shatter the walls of a rigidly conditioned mind, NOTHING WILL!!
Are you ruled by TRUTH or by ILLUSION? Again, you must answer the question for yourself.
What happens when you WAKE UP? First of all, you stand alone and are regarded as an oddity; one who has lost the ability to "go along to get along." It is the trait of one who has shed the "herd mentality" that is indicative of SATANICALLY ruled human societies.
Break the bonds of mind control, and the SATANIC hold upon the individual falls away. Will you meet with resistance at the hands of existing authorities -- What do you think?
I have been addressing this issue of government/media mind control and government corruption since 1997.
Here is something for you to consider. In all that time, NOT ONE QUESTION I have asked of our LEADERSHIP -- which extends from the White House, Senate, House of Representatives, Oregon Governor's Office, Oregon Attorney General's office, Oregon Circuit Court and the Josephine County Oregon District Attorney's office -- has been answered! NOT ONE!
That, my sleepyhead spiritual brothers and sisters, is the actual performance of government -- NOT the PR illusion of performance which runs into the millions of dollars and comes out of your pocket via media campaigns. And you, each of you, in your SATANIC-inflicted ignorance SUPPORT that illusion.
You want proof? Read the following: http://www.PetitionOnline.com/RayNita1/petition.html
The petition signatures have ALL been removed. By the order of whom and why has not been answered by the petition hosts.
Read the litany of questions asked by me which have gone unanswered by our Government. Perhaps it may dawn upon you the future peril which awaits any of us by an uncaring and anti-public government.
Who knows? You might even DO SOMETHING about it.
http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialch86.html#PETITION
http://www.arkenterprises.com/country.html
http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialch81.html#BETRAYAL
http://www.arkenterprises.com/govmail.html#Kulongoski
http://www.arkenterprises.com/lawresp1.html#COUNTY
http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialch84.html#POLICIES
http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialch84.html#GOVERNMENT
http://www.arkenterprises.com/remedya3.html#CLAIM
http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialch84.html#CRIMES
http://www.arkenterprises.com/govfalt.html#FALTERS
http://www.arkenterprises.com/govperfom.html#DEMAND
http://www.arkenterprises.com/remedy.html#REMEDY
http://www.arkenterprises.com/prfclaim.html#Claim
http://www.arkenterprises.com/linesand.html#Accountable
http://www.arkenterprises.com/account.html#ACCOUNTABILITY
http://www.arkenterprises.com/tortlabo.html#TERRORIST
http://www.arkenterprises.com/ambulnot.html#DEFAULT
http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialch79.html#Taxpayers
http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialch80.html#JOSEPHINE
http://www.arkenterprises.com/lawresp1.html#COUNTY
http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialch78.html#STATUS
http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialch79.html#STATUS
http://www.arkenterprises.com/appbrief.html#Oregon
http://www.arkenterprises.com/discover.html#DISCOVERY
http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialch68.html#Status
http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialch64.htm#Deputies
and ultimately
http://www.arkenterprises.com/govtacct.html#GOVERNMENT
Keep in mind, this is just a sample of the communications I have engaged in with Federal, State and Local Government over the last decade. NOT ONE ANSWER to any of the questions and documents submitted by me have been answered by our government officials. Do you think they'll answer your questions?
ISN'T IT TIME AMERICANS TAKE BACK CONTROL OF THEIR COUNTRY?
ISN'T IT TIME FOR MAN TO TAKE BACK CONTROL OF HIS SPIRITUAL LIFE?
Raymond Ronald Karczewski© -- A Living Christ
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Let man not Fall for a New World Order.
Let mankind Rise to a New World Consciousness!
Raymond Karczewski http://www.arkenterprises.com
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GOVERNMENT AND CHRIST CONSCIOUSNESS: RESIST NOT EVIL -- BOYCOTT IT!!" (The way of Truth, of Christ Consciousness is anathema to the Satanic mind of man.)
Mar-31st-04 11:47 AM
iminnocent wrote:
Raymond Karczewski (arkent3@earthlink.net) wrote:
imin: By the way, <<JESUS>> is not the answer, is only an illusion. Many people thru out the time, fall victims of this illusion.
rk: The way of Truth, of Christ Consciousness is anathema to the Satanic mind of man. My writing on and off the Internet over the years has been shocking to the slumbering conditioned mind -- and so it should. The ILLUSION, the graven images Christians worship is not CHRIST, it is what it is -- no less than a SATANIC SEDUCTION.
rk: Those who prefer SATANIC image to Truth, unknowingly and ignorantly worship such dualistic, created ILLUSIONS (false gods) while they revile the nondualistic essence of CHRIST, of TRUTH.
rk: It comes as no surprise that the simple words of any man of Truth, a CHRIST, raises hell in the intellects of zombie-like satanic minions who addict themselves to the worship of positive imagery although the shocking evidence of the HELL they have sown is ALL AROUND THEM.
rk: BASSACKWARDS, ISN'T IT?
imin: There is a clear distinction between the rebel called Jesus Christ and the religion that followed after him – Christianity.
rk: Yes. One is based in TRUTH. The other in SATANIC conditioning.
rk: Which GOD/god has/does organized Christianity worship since the death of Jesus, 2000 years ago?
imin: Through the gospels of Matthew, Luke, and John, Osho re-introduces Jesus as a man, a mystic, and an uncompromising Master filled with love, fire, and compassion.
imin: The beauty of Christ is there exists a bridge. You can move toward him by and by, and he can lead you toward the unknown – and so slowly that you will not even be aware when you cross the boundary, when you enter the unknown from the known, when the world disappears and God appears.
rk: Remove the anthropomorphized characterization of CHRIST in one's SATANIC-RULED, projecting, emotional, dualistic, religious/political conditioned consciousness, and eternal, nondualistic TRUTH speaks for ITSELF.
rk: In that moment of Truth, of Insight, one leaves behind Spiritual Kindergarten and resonates with the Spiritual understanding which presently eludes him/her because of one's limiting, SATANIC-influenced conditioning.
rk: In that moment of Truth emerges the Resurrection of Spirit, of Divine Intelligence. One has died to the limited known and is reborn of the Eternal Spirit of Divine Intelligence.
imin: You can trust him, because he is so like you yet so unlike. You can believe in him, because he is part of your agony; you can understand his language. – Osho
imin: Unless in this society a person is ready to choose crucifixion rather than consolations, medals, and Nobel Prizes.. only such a man can be a rebel and can be truly spiritual.
rk: There is NO TRUTH to be found in intellectual compromise. There one only finds Satanic Capitulation to illusory images, and with it, endless confusion and conflict.
rk: Hell, isn't it?
rk: The way of Truth, of Christ Consciousness is anathema to the Satanic mind of man.
Raymond Ronald Karczewski© -- A Living Christ
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Let man not Fall for a New World Order.
Let mankind Rise to a New World Consciousness!
Raymond Karczewski http://www.arkenterprises.com
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GOVERNMENT AND CHRIST CONSCIOUSNESS: RESIST NOT EVIL -- BOYCOTT IT!!" (The way of Truth, of Christ Consciousness is anathema to the Satanic mind of man.)
Thu Apr 01, 2004 3:07 am
Revere Publicus Patronus Patria wrote:
Raymond Karczewski (arkent3@earthlink.net) wrote:
rk: >> "The secret to resolving the problems of a SATANICALLY ruled world is not found in violent acts of RESISTANCE through armed revolution. Have you not learned the lessons of history? Have you not learned that such opposition is the very secret of how CHILDREN OF GOD are reduced to mind-controlled minions of SATAN -- the petty "god" of Intellect?"
pr: > I somewhat disagree.
rk: As any partially seeing Satanist-inflicted Intellect would!!
pr: > Have you not learned that you may safely speak, write, petition, and postulate as a consequence of violent acts of resistance to evil, by good men who came before you? Good men who would fight evil in every form of combat, passive and active?
rk: As in "Talk is Cheap, eh"? Have you not heard the adage "Truth Talks while BS walks?" When your words are your actions, and your actions are your words, you will understand the different vibrations which separate your words from the words of a man of Truth.
pr: > Resistance to tyranny and evil, passive and violent, is obedience to God.
rk: Which "god"? If you are referring to SATAN, the "god" of Intellect, well then you've proved my point.
pr: > Christ layed down his life after a VIOLENT act of overturning the money changers' tables and driving them BY FORCE from the temple with a whip made of cords [they're lucky he didn't kill them, but you don't want to know what happened to them after they died anyway].
rk: My, my, such spiritual speculation? Unless you truly understand the Christ state of Consciousness, are you not just "talking through your intellectual hat?" You engage in fruitless misdirection while remaining ignorant of that of which you speak.
pr: > And Moses said unto the judges of Israel, Slay ye every one his men that were joined unto Baalpeor. Numbers 25:5
rk: See what I mean about dead books written by dead, power-oriented men, and mind-control?
pr: > 2 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt. 3 Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.
4 And Saul gathered the people together, and numbered them in Telaim, two hundred thousand footmen, and ten thousand men of Judah. Samuel 15
rk: And after such outer-directed, hypnotic, mind-motivated savagery, won't you thump that Bible ONE MORE TIME!!!
pr: > The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom. The wise general seeks first victory, then the battle.
rk: The wise man understands the BIG PICTURE and is fully cognizant of the need for self-defense in a moment of great, life-threatening peril. The same wise man, however, also stands alone and quite apart when herd-like lemmings run headlong toward the cliff of self-destruction.
pr: > "Make sure you're right, then go ahead." ~ Davy Crockett
rk: Spoken like a wise man." How many Davy Crocketts were there? -- How many "Davy Crockett" wannabees?
pr: > I hope the spirit of revolution for the good of man, violent or peaceful, never dies.
rk: Spoken like a well-meaning manipulator -- albeit a short-sighted (partially blinded) one.
pr: > If it had not been for the Revolutionary War of 1776, you would most likely be flogged for preaching without your license.
rk: And if man had not "fallen from grace" and held to his God-Given Estate of Divine Guidance instead of being seduced into worshipping a dualistic image producing Intellect, then what? Do you understand the silliness of intellectual speculation when it comes to dealing with the nondualistic issues of life?
pr: > I also hope that mankind might one day know true peace and understanding, goodwill toward men, instead of hostility and senseless wars of beauracrats and corporate fascists.
rk: Hope is the goal of the hopeless. Hopes are illusory bubbles waiting to be burst in the eternal moment of NOW.
pr: > It appears as though I wish for something that never was nor ever will be.
rk: Out of the mouths of the hopeless, eh?
pr: > Let all men be liars, for Satan can quote scripture for his own cause, let God be true.
rk: Now reread your comments in this post. They do tell their story, do they not?
pr: > "We should not honor the dead. We should thank God that such men lived." George Patton
rk: Spoken like a high priest of death pontificating over heaps of cannonfodder. The insanity of it all is that this kind of insanity is so pervasive in the SATANIC mind that it is considered NORMAL and worshipped by violent, death-oriented IGNORAMUSES.
pr: > Praise God.
rk: Which "god?" Your comments say it all, do they not?
pr: > As a sovereign American, having all the rights, privileges, immunities, and other dignities as bestowed upon the former King of England, George III in particular, this especial sovereign does hereby state: Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
pr: > After all, that is the Royal Law.
pr: > And to the Kings of the earth, much is given.
pr: > I am my own King, Kaiser, and Pope thank you for your consideration.
pr: > I do not detest righteousness, rather thirst for it and truth, justice, and the American way, whatever particular way that is, it's been rather ill defined lately - hell it's been ugly as a train wreck - with psycho boy George W. in the [Holy Roman] Emperor's House.
rk: "Righteousness -- Wrongnesses" is the very dualistic essence of SATANIC thinking.
pr: > Proselytize me.
rk: You're on your own, pal. I've just about shaken off the last of the dust on my sandals. A man of truth does not waste his time
with prideful ignoramuses, he merely mirrors their kaflooey consciousness back to them. Such is the raising of hell in the consciousness of the deaf, blind, and dumb.
pr: > I'm going to need God to help me through this tyranny I live in. Shall I have the Discourses of Davila as a spiritual motivator?
rk: Why look for an outside motivator? See what I mean about the compulsion for the blind to follow their equally blind leadership?
pr: > When the French Revolution broke out, it certainly afforded to Mr. Burke an opportunity of doing some good, had he been disposed to it; instead of which, no sooner did he see the old prejudices wearing away, than he immediately began sowing the seeds of a new inveteracy, as if he were afraid that England and France would cease to be enemies. That there are men in all countries who get their living by war, and by keeping up the quarrels of Nations, is as shocking as it is true; but when those who are concerned in the government of a country, make it their study to sow discord and cultivate prejudices between Nations, it becomes the more unpardonable. ~ Thomas Paine The Rights of Man
pr: > Skull and Bones in '04
pr: > Whoo Hoo!
pr: > NOT! [yeah, right]
pr: > No, I ain't talking paper ballots or computerized vote riggers, I mean, computerized voting machines (CVMs for short).
pr: > "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."
pr: > Hell, Satan, Praise God and pass the ammunition.
pr: > Anybody seen The Passion?
pr: > I haven't seen it yet.
pr: > Is it anti-jew or are the Jews Anti-Christ?
rk: See what is meant by gibberish misdirection interspersed with bigoted, anti-semitic judgements? You've just demonstrated
how it's done and "normally"accepted by non-perceptive, conditioned automatons who all work together to make this a hell on earth. All "positive imaged" appearances are not what they are cracked up to be, eh?
pr: > Not that I'm beating up on the Jews or trying to be Anti-Semitical if they are Anti-Christ. Just like to know where everybody stands on the issue.
rk: Is that your substitute for the old SATANIC standby excuse of "Just kidding" when you get nailed with your words?
pr: > Should the Jews declare the New Testament Anti-Semitic, (and seeing how there are many semites, I don't quite follow the truth of that logic,) should I applaud it or condemn it? And if the Roman Catholics (the Christians) decide that the Jews are Anti-Christ, and condemn the act of the Jews for their denouncing the New Testament as Anti-Semitic, should I applaud it or condemn it?
rk: You just keep pluggin' along, playing to the choir of the confused and confounded, do you not? Such is the spirit of SATANIC "Rabble-Rousers" bent on working the ignorant, psychologically maleable crowd, into mobs. Listen to some of the Patriot talk show hosts who are gaining momentum and popularity in our sick society. They have made it into an art form.
pr: > And the "modern" People who make their living off of war of Nations [like say, THE BUSH FAMILY] that Thomas Paine referred to above - would they applaud it, or condemn it?
rk: Wise men will do one thing, Ignoramuses do quite another.
pr: > Would they involve themselves in Wars of Religions...Wars which have raged over mankind for centuries and turned mankind at times into brute beasts? How long were you held?
rk: ALL WARS ARE SATANIC -- BAR NONE!!(how many eyes will be opened to that simple fact?).
pr: > I'm sure everyone has their opinion, just as everyone has an asshole.
rk: One is caused to ask, from which end do your opinions arise?
pr: > Just be thankful that you're not a Siamese Twin who shares the same asshole with a homosexual brother who has a date coming over.
pr: > Peace out.
rk: Out of the mouths of SATANISTS, eh?
Raymond Ronald Karczewski© -- A Living Christ
GOVERNMENT AND CHRIST CONSCIOUSNESS: RESIST NOT EVIL -- BOYCOTT IT!!" (The way of Truth, of Christ Consciousness is anathema to the Satanic mind of man.)
Thu Apr 01, 2004 7:36 am
PrivacyJack wrote:
Raymond Karczewski (arkent3@earthlink.net) wrote:
pj: > Very interesting exchange. PR, let me introduce our friend Ray, aka Arkent.
pj: > His extensive site is very worth reviewing, and I believe his ideas on individual sovereignty, ie...Christ Consciousness, are very valid. We agree that one's standing with the Creator are all about NOW, rather than the future.
rk: May I point out the Satanic medium of flawed communication (a technical procedure) is necessarily couched in the dualism of
cultural interpretation? A Christ (simple man of Truth) is necessarily "In this world (on a visitor's pass to the world of SATANISM) but not of it." One must see that in HELL, just as in Rome, in order to communicate, one must do as the hell-bent (romans) do. Otherwise how shall the ignorant grasp what is being communicated? Unfortunately, the ignorant, though they may be proficient in the manipulation of language, cannot transcend their own self-imposed intellectual limitations.
pj: > We have also agreed to disagree on several issues:
pj: > (1) I believe that the scriptura ( the original hebrew, aramaic and greek texts of the scriptures) were inspired, or "breathed in", letter by letter by the Holy Spirit. Ray thinks (knows) they are the works of man.
rk: PJ, note your word "believe". Is that not the limitation of Thought being projected as Truth (merely the act of playing pattycake with the SATANIC idea of Truth.)?
pj: > (2) I believe that the actual flesh and blood historical figure known as Jesus Christ was (and is) the Creator Incarnate,
rk: The Truth is WE ALL ARE THE CREATOR INCARNATE (Sons and Daughters of the Creator), though we suffer SATANIC-IMPOSED AMNESIA (Spiritual blinders through conditioning) of it.
pj: > and that His propitiatory act on a wooden cross outside Jerusalem is the key to our eternal destiny. Ray believes (knows) that the key is to obtain Christ Consciousness in ones own mind and to dismiss satanic thought.
rk: Again your employment of the device of belief, which attests to that which is ALWAYS BEYOND belief, exposes the limitation of logical language. Look at the responses to my posts and you will discover the reason for such vehement and vicious attacks is simply the act of face saving when one's SATANICALLY-imposed limitations are mirrored.
pj: > While these views seem diametrically opposed, I think that there is major truth to be found in his perspective, especially the realization that our experience in the Matrix is all about where we stand with our Creator right now.
rk: Now fess up, PJ. Logic did not lead you to that insight, did it? Did not the essence of Truth itself (beyond thought)the Spirit of Infinite Intelligence lead you to such direct perception?
pj: > Anyway, just thought I would shed some light to keep the thread focused on common beliefs and goals. Ray sometimes has a harsh way of expressing disagreement....
rk: Truth is always a tough pill to swallow for prideful, but limited, compensatory intellects.
rk: TRUTH IS WHAT IT IS, regardless of how it is expressed.
rk: If the transmission of such inexorable TRUTH requires a "'spoonful of sugar' to help the medicine go down," then by all means one is no longer in touch with Truth. In that seductive, time-bound aftermoment, one has stepped into the "faerie-tale" realm wherein the Satanic manipulation of the "idea" of Truth draws the life-force from those addicted to the vagaries of their romantic, emotionally unstable, but ignorant SATANICALLY-governed intellect -- It thrusts one into a life-long, downward spiral into the Hell of confusion and conflict known as human society, doesn't it?
Raymond Ronald Karczewski© -- A Living Christ
GOVERNMENT AND CHRIST CONSCIOUSNESS: RESIST NOT EVIL -- BOYCOTT IT!!" (The way of Truth, of Christ Consciousness, is anathema to the Satanic mind of man.)
Revere Publicus Patronus Patria wrote:
Raymond Karczewski (arkent3@earthlink.net) wrote:
Thu Apr 01, 2004 2:01 pm
pr: > Ok, just let me know when the proselytization begins.
rk: You'll get no proselytizing from me. The simple fact is that one gets the Truth when they are ready for it, not before. No one can give it to you. In lieu of Truth, what is given you by another is hypnotic conditioning, the bread-and-butter tool of SATANISTS. Turn on your TV religious programming; you will see what I mean.
pr: > Again, Satan can quote scripture for his own cause.
rk: See above!!
pr: > All wars are not Satanic.
rk: You bet they are. It is apparent that you do not understand the dualistic nature of SATANIC CONDITIONING.
pr: > There is a basic tennant that man has the right, granted from God, to protect himself from evil and those that are evil.
rk: A living, breathing, flesh-and-blood, sentient natural man, a Child of the Creator indeed has the right to self-defense. However, when the evil SATANIC (dualistic) intellect colors the direct perception of man, organized killing (wars)comes into existence. In the animal kingdom, only man will kill another over a conflict-producing, dualistic IDEA!!
pr: > Many people protecting themselves [constantly] against those that are Satanic (ie Revolution) is not Satanic. There are just wars just as there are unjust wars.
rk: You have not grasped the essence of SATANIC as you are still engaged in the SATANIC influenced act of JUDGMENT. Do you see it for yourself?
pr: > If all wars are Satanic, then God commanding the Israelites to slay all of Amalek's people is Satanic, which cannot be, for God is not Satanic.
rk: The "god" of intellect is SATAN. Your murky grasp of that simple fact prevents you from the clarity of Spiritual Sight.
pr: > Moses killing those who followed Baalpeor MUST have been Satanic by the same twisted logic that all wars are Satanic.
rk: YEP!! If it is the result of organized killing, you bet it was, is, and will be SATANIC!!
pr: > What compact has the light with the dark?
rk: Conceptually or Actually? (hint, hint)
pr: > There was a good reason God commanded they be destroyed.
rk: You bet! The petty "god" of Intellect--SATAN--damned them to their own self-destruction. One faction of ignorant human beings sought power and dominion over another faction of ignorant human beings. Sound familiar?
pr: > I'll let you argue it with Him.
rk: Easy copout, wasn't that? It seems you have reached the end of your psychological tether.
pr: > We'll see who wins the debate and where you end up for eternity.
rk: Ah! Now it seems you desire to set yourself up in the supreme position of refereeing an imagined debate between your own two thought projections. Unsettling, isn't it?
pr: > Now, praise the Lord and pass the ammunition, if you think this is Hell, wait till you see what happens next.
rk: Fear does fuel the fires of believers, does it not?
pr: > And let it come sir, I say let it come. Every jot and every tittle shall be fulfilled. The Good shall not remain cannon fodder of the immoral much longer, and RIGHTLY SO.
rk: Pumped up, aren't we? But tell us, what are your actions behind your words? My words and actions are self-evident if you read the persecution of the last eight years culminated by one who abides in God's Law mirroring the corruption of Man's Law. See: http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialchst.htm
pr: > And if it wasn't for those acts of violent defense committed by the founders of the USA against a ruthless tyranny, you RK would have already been drawn and quartered by the perpetrators of that ruthless tyranny.
rk: The irresolution of the Chicken and Egg conundrum exists in SATANIC thought. Rise above it and SEE for yourself.
pr: > You would have been another victim of the ongoing inquisition.
rk: Are you inferring that what I have been through for the past 16 months WAS NOT AN INQUISITION by a corrupt Josephine County, Oregon Judiciary???
pr: > But, I leave you to your own conscience. Just remember, it was VIOLENT acts of resistance that allowed you to EXERCISE freedom of conscience IN THE FIRST INSTANCE, otherwise you would be dead right now for exercising the right to possessing your own judgement of good and evil.
rk: I resist NO ONE. I BOYCOTT THEM. It was the withdrawal of personal energy and/or consent which drove the Josephine County Judiciary up the walls and revealed their true impotence when dealing with a man who stood steadfast under the protection of God's Law.
rk: You see, they still have not established that a crime was committed by this "living, breathing, flesh-and-blood, sentient, natural man, a Son of God.
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Kregener wrote:
Thu Apr 01, 2004 2:32 pm
k: Clash of the Titans!
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k: "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident." ~ Arthur Schopenhauer, Philosopher, 1788-1860
"And why is America doomed to bankruptcy and ruination? Because we so desperately deserve it, as we are obviously a nation of imbeciles and morons who elect imbeciles and morons to spend us into hell".~ Richard Daughty
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Pepper Constitutional Warrior wrote:
Location: Constitutional Republic of America
Thu Apr 01, 2004 3:18 pm
p: Hi, Arkin, I have a question about this response to PR:
".....When your words are your actions, and your actions are your words, you will understand the different vibrations which separate your words from the words of a man of Truth.
p: I would love it if you would explain this to me in more specific detail!
rk: All you need to understand may be found on my links at http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialchst.htm You will have to mine the Truth out for yourself according to your present level of understanding. Anything less than that is SATANIC CONDITIONING.
p: I also like your concept of "Christ Consciousness" as I have recently made a journy through the gospels concentrating only on Jesus words and what a difference in simplicity and beauty they contain. Anyway, thanks in advance for your response. P
rk: All Truth comes to those who have prepared the way for the LORD (TRUTH). Don't shortchange yourself by asking others for pat answers. Do that, and you sell your soul for a mess of worldly pottage.
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"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animated contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsel or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen -"Samuel Adams
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Revere Publicus Patronus Patria wrote:
Thu Apr 01, 2004 3:23 pm
pr: > Not a clash.
pr: > I feel strongly that RK is a good and Godly man.
pr: > He has absolutely nothing to fear from me, and true to Voltairic philosophy, I will defend his right to speak his conscience.
rk: Have you not heard the one about the road to hell is paved with good intentions? You've just voiced that sentiment above. Has it liberated you or has it only reinforced existing divisions?
pr: > I only hope for the same indulgence.
rk: Sounds like a cash-register mentality to me. Does one hope beget another hope in return?
pr: > We may not agree on everything, but it is error alone which needs the support of men. Truth can stand by itself. Truth can stand on its own.
rk: Then why do you hope? Is not such expression of hope merely a demand upon another for a relationship of codependence?
pr: > If ignorance is bliss, why aren't more people happy?
rk: Because the world of civilized man ruled by SATANISM is a BASSACKWARD, upside down, back-to-front, looney tune world. Don't you get it yet?
pr: > Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong.
rk: Feeble attempt at convolution. Where did it get you?
pr: > The basis of all excellence is truth: he that professes love ought to feel its power, for God chastens those whom He loves, otherwise, he would not care, and would love no one.
rk: There you go again, inserting yourself above GOD and deigning to speak for a DIVINE INTELLIGENCE you yet do not grasp. It is this quality of religious bigotry which pervades human consciousness. no matter their source of belief, which is engaged in so pridefully by IGNORAMUSES. It is the very source of division which has made this a HELL ON EARTH.
pr: If a child is in error, is not Satanic to correct the child. It is Satanic not to.
rk: If a child is in error, that error has already been programmed into him by ignoramuses who can naught but pass on their own ignorance to the child. Have you not heard the one about the "Sins of the Fathers shall be visited upon their Sons"? What is passed on from generation to generation is the SIN of SATANIC INTELLECTUALISM VIA MIND CONTROL.
Raymond Ronald Karczewski© -- A Living Christ
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Let man not Fall for a New World Order.
Let mankind Rise to a New World Consciousness!
Raymond Karczewski http://www.arkenterprises.com
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