Date: 03/25/03 07:05:21 PM

Name: Clouded Leopard  Email: wrote:

Raymond Karczewski (arkent@arkenterprises.com) wrote:

rk:  May I present to the readers Part III of an Exorcism between a simple man of Truth, a Christ, and a "CHRISTIAN," Satanic Minion (i.e.,  NO contradiction in terms) who hides in the shadow of anonymity and functions behind the mask of "clouded leopard."

rk:  Such dependence upon masks by all Hell-bound hypocrites, becomes the first clue that one is dealing with an unwhole (unholy) being; one who lacks integrity, who lacks completeness, who requires dependence upon illusion in order to sustain a clearly conflicted, contradictory spirit.

rk:  For those not sufficiently aware of what truly goes on in an actual  "spiritual exorcism" and are thereby caught in the dizzying compensations and deceptions of Satanic Deceivers bent on creating endless psychological misdirection through reactionary and secondary mirroring of the primary Mirror of Truth, which by its pristine, unsullied nature quite naturally reflects the flaw of the tainted secondary mirror back to its satanic source, it is a daunting task to arrive at the truth when they see only the TAINT reflected ad infinitum by the opposing (SATANIC) mirror placed before the primary, pristine, untainted Mirror of Truth.

rk:  Quite simply, a spiritual exorcism is no more than the reflection of illusion by the holistic Mirror of Truth back to the unholy, psychologically conjured image which stands before it.

rk:  Truth is plain, simple, direct, and whole.  Illusion is complicated, reactionary, fragmented and contradictory.  It is based in the psychological Satanic (Opposer) realm of dualism.

rk:  True exorcisms (not the phony mystical shenanigans perpetrated upon the mind of religious ignoramuses blinded by belief) can only occur in relationship.

rk:  In such relationship, one who lacks clarity of Truth (a Satanic Minion) in their life is left to examine their own naturally confused state of fragmented, conditioned consciousness when their own Satanic Illusory Projections are mirrored back to them, revealing the conflicted spirit of a civilized,  religious/politically correct-thinking, conditioned automaton/minion by the inarguable resonance of a simple man of Truth -- a CHRIST.

rk:  Note the HELL raised below by the EXORCISM below.

rk:  RES IPSA LOQUITOR --- IT SPEAKS FOR ITSELF!!

                       Raymond Ronald Karczewski©

                      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Raymond's Compensatory Attempts
    by the beloved Clouded Leopard

    ***

CL: Let us deal with issues that our internet boogeyman has so libelously asserted. Lets start with the challenge that he wants proof that he has accused me and others of being affiliated with the media, of being  popular radio personalities. One needs only to do a "google groups" search using the following search string:

CL: "Karczewski" AND "Government/Media"

CL: Thousands of articles (3,380 by my count) will appear where Raymond is whining about Government/Media agents sabotaging his agenda of bullying and stalking the casual internet user. His    "Raybotic" penchant for going "Kachunk" and all of the sudden, a new article, full of the same drivel appears. One of the best newsgroups to read about him is the alt.fan.art-bell newsgroup, available on google groups.

rk: So having asserted such a general obfuscation designed to misdirect attention away from the real question, just where exactly is the proof of the specific statement you claim that I wrote, accusing you of being a POPULAR RADIO PERSONALITY?

CL: All the astute reader needs to do is perform the "google groups" search that I indicated above. You accuse EVERYONE that disagrees with you of being a Government/Media Supported/Sponsored Disinformation Agent, and the glaring truth of that statement is a slap in your face. Now that I have forced you  in the Steel Jaws of the Crushing Grip of Reason, you have permission to go cry to wifey.

    ***

rk: I understand such simplicity and directness brings down the house of cards erected by verbally talented  hypocrites -- those who control the minds of less verbally talented individuals.

CL: I'm not a hypocrite! What a venomous and libelous statement. I am here to keep you honest, Raymond.  You conspire to execute carefully calculated plans of buffoonery, and this needs to be exposed to the casual  reader, who hasn't yet been exposed to your tirades of vitriol filled spam.

CL: I am also in control of NO MIND other than my own. There is NO SUCH THING AS MIND CONTROL, but  prideful ignoramuses like Raymond are simply killing time with such noisy outbursts. He doesn't do anything,  and you know what they say about idle minds. I challenge the cowardly hypocrite, Raymond Karczewski, to    present evidence that Mind Control is in use today. I demand proof that ANYONE is acting under the volition of  another at this or any other time. Well, Raymond... We're still waiting...

    ***

CL: My identity for my duration on the Internet has been "Clouded Leopard" or a derivation thereof such as "Clouded_Leopard" and "CloudedLeopard" or "CloudCat" back around the time that CompuServe was the defacto standard.

rk: Again you misdirect attention away from a very simple fact; i.e., your personal penchant for deception, misdirection, and libel by spreading UNTRUE, DEFAMATORY statements on these forums without a scintilla of evidence to back them up.

CL: Again you misdirect attention away from a very simple fact; my internet screen name has always readily identified me as the beloved Clouded Leopard. You are no longer a cop, Raymond. You haven't any right or business to "demand my ID" so stop trying to bully me. You don't intimidate me, although you keep trying through your predatory posts and attacks.

CL: And kazoo... what precisely is defaming or libelous about my apprising your astute betters of my internet screen names. Proof of my righteousness pisses you off, doesn't it. You get in such a tizzy over my honesty that you must have ground your "falsies" to a pulp. These blind attempts to hit your target are akin to throwing  bullets... just one more impotent spectacle of a prideful ignoramus attempting to compensate for his gross inadequacies.

    ***

rk: State your TRUE IDENTITY. Your TRUE NAME. State your AFFILIATIONS with GOVERNMENT/MEDIA. In other words, come out of the shadows and stand alone, like a man, in the BLAZING LIGHT OF TRUTH.

CL: My TRUE IDENTITY is the beloved Clouded Leopard, the name you know and hate. Anything else would only serve to confuse you. Everyone loves me but you, Raymond, and I'm not really concerned with making a kook like you like me. My every word is the very essence of truth, but prideful ignoramuses like yourself, are too busy obsessing over irrelevant extraneous details that do not relate to the original issue of discussion.

CL: And your above statement is PROOF of your accusations that I am affiliated with the government and the media. You rendered the need to research google moot, of course, I have read stories that indicate you have shot yourself in the foot like this on more than one occasion. ...and you call others ignorant... what nerve.

    ***

rk: Join the call for a Thorough, "No Stone Unturned" Federal Investigation into this Government/Media, Mind   Control/Disinformation Campaign used on unwary Internet users.

CL: I hate to be the one to break the news to you Raymond, but there is no such thing as mind control. The CIA tried for decades to pursue such technologies, but to no avail. Also, disinformation is a propaganda tool used by the government to influence popular opinion about POLITICAL issues, and since I do not work for the government, then the term does no apply to me. Your obsession is so grossly blown out of proportion that you cannot see the forest for the trees, can you?

CL: You certainly have refined your ignorance to an art.

    ***

rk: When the findings are in, and the inevitable occurs when it finally reaches the Federal Courts, I suggest you repeat the same defamatory statements you and the other internet prowling, cowardly, anonymous, multi-handled, Government/Media/Intelligence Community-linked Disinformation Agents continually have made    on these Internet Newsgroups for the last eight years, attacking and smearing the name of my wife, my family, my character, my reputation, and do it UNDER OATH in a court of law. Do that and this libelous campaign will be over in the blink of an eye. In addition to a quick and decisive closure, the onlooking public would see the POWER of TRUTH in operation as it overcomes the conditioned belief that "One Can't Fight City Hall."

CL: There will be no findings. After consulting an attorney, she has concluded that while my remarks to you are immature, they do not constitute libel. She also agrees with my astute assessment that you are a kook, but believes that I should expend my energies and intelligence elsewhere. Just so ya know, kook...

CL: It is not illegal to insult people on the internet, and the FBI advises, that if you ARE going to insult someone, it is best to do it anonymously, to prevent your target from initiating an escalation that will lead to illegal behaviors such as assault, fraud, and other forms of retribution. As you can see, there will be no blinking of the eye, no testimony under oath, and no massive on looking public.

CL: So now you have learned that I can sit here and call you a kook till the cows come home, because it is my opinion. I am not making a professional diagnosis of your present mental condition, so I am not breaking any laws by making novice observations about you, one of which, is that you are a kook.

    ***

CL: Raymond's obsession with who I really am, is his method for attempting to distract the reader from the issues at hand. He is a predator, and like a predator, he wants as much personal information about those who disagree with him as possible.

rk: PREDATOR, eh? Without proof, that sounds like a LIBEL to me. How does it sound to you?

CL: As I said previously, calling someone a predator is not libel. Your penchant for obtuse redundancy is testimony to the deteriorating state of your mental health (novice opinion you nimrod). The proof you seek is on bravenet, UseNet, and your very own vulgar excuse for a website. You stalk the shadows of the internet waiting for an unsuspecting person to happen along, then you pounce like a rabid tiger going in for the kill. You immediately inundate their senses with your excessively verbal linguistic acrobatics, talking about your "quack Christhood" and "government/media sponsored/supported disinformation agents" and "satanic this and satanic that." If that isn't predatory, then Webster's must have changed the definition.

CL: Just for kicks, here is the definition of Predatory.

    predatory
adj 1: characterized by plundering or pillaging or marauding; "bands of marauding Indians"; "predatory warfare"; "a raiding party" [syn: marauding , raiding ] 2: living by preying on other animals especially by catching living prey; "a predatory bird"; "the rapacious wolf"; "raptorial  birds"; "ravening wolves"; "a vulturine taste for offal" [syn: rapacious , raptorial , ravening ,
    vulturine , vulturous ] 3: living by or given to victimizing others for personal gain; "predatory  capitalists"; "a predatory, insensate society in which innocence and decency can prove fatal"-  Peter S. Prescott; "a predacious kind of animal--the early geological gangster"- W.E.Swinton [syn: predaceous , predacious ]

CL: In my opinion, "3: living by or given to victimizing others for personal gain" is the definition that describes you best. You come out of the shadows to snatch up someone and try to brainwash them into believing your blasphemous claims of being Christ and that the Real Jesus Christ, was just a man, and that the Holy Bible was just another book. For what gain? To use them as rabid attack dogs against the astute reader who renders a verdict that identifies your kookery as just that... kookery.

    ***

CL: Raymond wants to know who I am for one reason: Harassment.

rk: No Harrassment to it. Your Satanic deceptions will cause you to lose EVERYTHING you own, EVERYTHING you will EVER own, EVERYTHING you have EVER gained through such long, practiced, highly-honed, predatory Satanic-reversal tactics you seek to psychologically project onto another.

CL: Just how will I loose every thing I own by exposing you for what you are? As a Christian, it is my duty to expose your blasphemy to the world, and especially to those you assail on these public forums. I believe you to be evil, and I treat you as such. Get thee behind me  Satan.

CL: The words that come out the obscene sewer beneath your nose are outrageous and an offense to meek and humble Christians everywhere. I am the vanguard on watch, monitoring your buffoonery, apprising the masses of your every wrongful post. If you speak in a public forum, then you should expect to have your every word examined. By the way, I have gained nothing from my exposure of your sinister evil, other than a sense of personal gratification at knowing I am helping to protect the world from you.

    ***

rk: You and the other spiritually bereft, intellectually-oriented government/media, disinformation agents are about to learn the basic Spiritual Lesson of how satanic reversal tactics ultimately result in the self-destruction of all ignorant satan-worshipping minions who deign to stand too long in the LIGHT OF TRUTH.

CL: Whew! Did you work up a sweat cranking out that circus of linguistic acrobatics? The statement you just made is a prime example of your attempts to persuade the casual reader that you possess intelligence, simply by perpetrating a cascade of "big words" but you do not fool many, if any. You possess only "artificial  intelligence" as granted to you by the beast. You have been prophesied by the Holy Bible, and I can see by your presence on the Earth, that the End Times are here.

CL: IT IS MY CHRISTIANLY DUTY TO TELL THE WORLD!!!

    ***

CL: He wants to punish me for keeping him honest and exposing his evil, despicable agenda to the casual reader, who hasn't experienced the Karczewski brand of stalking.

rk: Like all Satanic Minions, you've got it all BASSACKWARDS, have you not? One merely need look at the ORIGINAL articles of these threads to see who is the attacking reactor to another's words. (I must issue one caveat, however, to the discriminating reader. BEWARE of FORGERIES posted under my name by these same Disinformation Agents/Mind Controllers/Internet Hackers.)

CL: These supposed forgeries were not forgeries at all. Your writing has a signature style that is unique and easily identifiable. The moment you demand proof of something that you claim you didn't say, when the quote and link is presented to you, your immediate reactionary response is to yell "forgery!" Have you ever heard of the boy who cried wolf? Since all these alleged forgeries are identical in format and content to the crap you continuously pour into these forums and newsgroups, how is the "discriminating reader" supposed to discern this crap from that crap?

    ***

rk: I merely mirror such satanic behavior, and it does drive you and the satanic minions up the proverbial wall, does it not? That is the nature of "RAISING HELL."

CL: And I have shattered your impotent and soiled mirror with my Omnipotent Mirror of Truth. I thrust you in front of the Untrammeled Lens of Scrutiny and expose your buffoonery for all to see. You constantly find yourself in so many ridiculous situations of your own making, that you are destined to continually drown in a sea of chagrin.

CL: Nothing about you "drives me up the proverbial wall." I see you as an evil, demonic agent of Satan, so I remain in a position to closely supervise and monitor you. I enjoy exposing you to the readers of these bravenet forums, it is a free public service that I perform as an act of selfless benevolence.

    ***

CL: It is fear for my safety and my families safety, that my anonymity must be maintained.

rk: DECEPTION cowers in the face of TRUTH, does it not? You've said a mouthful there, haven't you?

CL: As I said, I must protect myself and my loved ones. Someone like you who is so entrenched in a state of static hypnotic stupor is simply incapable of fathoming such a protective stance. Your constant obsession with identity is a bullying tactic that you could never shake after the Pacifica PD got rid of you.

    ***

CL: Lynn, can you now see the evil, the malice demonstrated by this boogeyman? He is like the monster that hides in a child's closet or under the bed... look at his ambushing tactics.

rk: Evidence!! Evidence!! Can you at least see what lacking in your statements and why they are libelous?

CL: A wealth of evidence is as close as the nearest google, using the search string I rendered at the top of this  post. For ease of use, I shall post a few pre-searched links.

CL: Google: "Karczewski" AND "Satanic" articles that demonstrate his obsession with accusing everyone that disagrees with him of being Satanic.

CL: Google: "Karczewski" AND "Ignoramus" articles that demonstrate his predilection with abusing people with  insults such as "Ignoramus."

CL: Google: "Karczewski" AND "Christ" articles that illustrate his penchant for claiming to be Christ and the thoughts and feelings of others that disagree.

CL: As I said, a wealth of evidence. Pick from thousands of articles, all of which lend credence to the fact that he has sinister motives.

    ***

CL: You don't have to believe me or him, point out the things he says to a minister.

rk: I understand the man Jesus pointed out all these things to the Saducees and the Pharisee, the ministers of His time. So what is your point?

CL: As I said, feel free to ignore ME and KARCZEWSKI. Ask a trusted minister or friend of the family that maintains a close relationship with God.

    ***

CL: Ask your minister what his position is on a person who claims the Holy Bible is just another book, a person that claims that Jesus Christ was just another man, and a person that claims that HE is Christ.

rk: I understand the man Jesus found out the "positions" of the Saducees and the Pharisees, the ministers of His time. You saw what happened to Him when He stepped on the toes of these Satanic Minions who ruled  over the intellects of the conditioned ignoramuses of His time.

CL: As you can see, Raymond is having difficulty debating the fact that you should speak with someone you trust, because the harder he fights it, the more guilty he appears. This is frustrating to him, so as I said, feel free to ignore ME and KARCZEWSKI. Ask a trusted minister or friend of the family that maintains a close relationship with God.

    ***

CL: Ask a police officer or an attorney for their assessment of a man who claims that a driver's license, or automobile insurance is not necessary. Ask a Judge what happens to men who don't appear in court when they are being sentenced for crimes that they were rightfully convicted.

 rk: I was a police officer. I have rendered such an assessment. Yet you reject that and seek the counsel of another police officer whose opinion would be equally unknown to you. Shooting blanks is not the sign of Intelligence when one seeks to go to war with TRUTH, is it?

CL: Seek counsel with your families attorney. Seek counsel with a police officer that you have met and respect. Karczewski may have been a cop at one time, but all the stories floating around on the internet, indicate that he was considered something of a "Barney Fife" on the force. This so-called ex-police officer claims that driver's licenses and automobile insurance are not necessary to drive down the street. How can you trust that?!! He spent time in jail because of his incredulous claims. Seek out a COMPETENT officer of the law, or better yet, ask a judge.

    ***

CL: Click here for quick access to the forum of Christians I told you about earlier

rk: Do that and you will find the same Disinformation Agents utilizing different handles while attacking my posts.

CL: You say that about everyone that disagrees with anything you say. These people are Good Honest Christians who make for good fellowship and offer competent advice.

    ***

CL: Click here for quick access to the newsgroup that is most familiar with Raymond (alt.fan.art-bell)

rk: Do that and you will find the same Disinformation Agents utilizing different handles while attacking my posts.

CL: You say that about everyone that disagrees with anything you say. These people know you, and are familiar with your writings and claims.

    ***

CL: My prayers go with you, Lynn. May you find the path that is right for you. I am sure that you now are able to discern the animosity exhibited by this internet boogeyman.

    ***

    by Clouded Leopard
    Creative Criticisms for Raymond Karczewski
    Creative Solutions for a Better Internet

    Quote of the Day
    "A fool and his buffoonery are quickly associated with one another."
 
 

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NOTE:  April 3rd, 2003,  This is the TENTH posting of this article since March 25th.  It is being blocked from appearing on USENET NEWSGROUPS and GOOGLE ARCHIVES.  Read the following, Once again, the Government/Media Disinfo crowd unable to withstand the exposure must resort to behind the scenes censorship.

rk:   The below post written today, March 25. 2003 by Cardinal Chunder (cc@foo.no.spam.xyzabcfghllaa.com) is the latest attempt by a cowardly, anonymous, shadow-slinking government/media disinformation agent to stop my posting on the internet.

rk:  Pay attention to the following sample posts written by the same individuals using different handles, but posting from the same newsgroups as far back as Jan 7th, 1996 and extending to the present day.

rk:  Same singers -- same tune -- different names.

rk: Pay attention to the newsgroups these comments originate from.   In the passing years, what relationship existed between Roy Masters-owned radio station and the nationally syndicated
Art Bell Show?

rk: What threat do my posts pose to these newsgroups that such a lengthy and unrelenting effort should be expended toward discrediting and libeling my family and me; toward erecting web sites for the purpose of ridicule; toward monopolizing the amazon.com review page with phony reviews of my book  "Journey Beyond Thought: Breaking the Bonds of the Conditioned Mind"; toward admittedly hacking my site; toward intercepting and  blocking my posts from reaching USENET newsgroups?

rk:  Perhaps for the discerning reader, the pieces to the puzzle concerning the drawn-out refusal of the FBI to investigate  government/media/intelligence community mind control/Disinformation on the Internet are beginning to fall into place.  Full details may be found in the Google Archives.

rk:  Perhaps you, the heretofore unaware reader, will finally come to understand the scope and range of control these government/media minions (who serve the same Satanic agencies responsible for bringing you news of the War in IRAQ) exert over the communications unwary users engage in on these newsgroups/forums?

rk:  PERHAPS -- PERHAPS NOT!!!

                          Raymond Ronald Karczewski©

                            ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

An Anonymous Disinformation Agent's Feeble Attempt at
 Damage Control -- PART II

Date: 2003-03-25 09:29:03 PST

Cardinal Chunder (cc@foo.no.spam.xyzabcfghllaa.com) wrote:

Newsgroups: alt.consciousness.4th-way
 

cc: >   Raymond, if you stopped your insane rants (and they truly rank high in  the insane paranoid rant category), perhaps your detractors would go away?

cc: >  Have you ever thought of that?

cc: >  This entire "conspiracy" against you is self inflicted. Imagine this, at one time no one knew who the fuck you were but then you began screaming "stop harassing me!", and post reams of effluent about your delusions of godhood and accusations that everyone else is in a Plot To Get You.

cc: >  Is it any wonder that people first take you task and then actively mock  and laugh at you? Is your behaviour normal or acceptable? If you had stayed silent no one would have the first clue who you are.

cc: >  So here is a simple solution to the harassment. Stop posting! It's as simple as that. Stop posting and people will move on to the next kook and you will be left in peace. The same is true of your real life issues with law enforcement - pay the fucking fine or do the time and lead a normal existence. Screaming about the legitimacy of the court or threatening police officers tends to rile them up and guarantees you'll get much worse then if you'd just kept your mouth shut.

cc: >  Again, your persecution is self-inflicted. Stop behaving the kook and people won't treat you as one. Stop accusing others and confront the single source of your problems - yourself.

From: Glen Quarnstrom (geezer@nursing.home)
 Subject: Re: A Goddess, a Phantom, and a Troll
 Newsgroups: alt.religion.roy-masters, alt.fan.art-bell,
 Date: 1996/12/19
 

gq:   >> We attack him because he invites it. That's pretty obvious.  It's a form of attention, and in the jungle of UseNet, it's an excellent way to attract attention.  bRay thrives on it.  His multiple cross-posting proves it.

gq:   >> If you don't like us exposing bRay's nekkidness, then don't read our posts.  Better yet, get Linenoise to stop spamming afa-b, and your problem (and his) will be solved, at least as far as "attacks" from there are concerned.

 > that you are trying to discredit him.  The obvious motive is that you don't  want other people to read his posts.  The other obvious motive is that

gq:    Read his posts?  Come on, nobody actually reads all that drivel, do they?

glenq@cyberhighway.net
"GLEN QUARNSTROM" for all my Bell-Basher Fans.

Newsgroups: alt.religion.roy-masters
 Date: 1996/01/07

duaneb@smartlink.net (Duane Baird) wrote:

db:  I've been reading and reading your posts.  I find them filled with a combination of psycho-speak and convoluted sentences, with ideas nested within ideas until all possibility of clarity is destroyed.

db:  Unfortunately, nothing you write has the 'ring of truth' in it.

db:  I wish you would quit posting.

Duane Baird
duaneb@smartlink.net

Boy are you right...  I would hope that R.K. would start his own Newsgroup and get off of this one.

 Subject: Internet Censorship Gremlins At Work!
 Newsgroups: alt.religion.roy-masters
 Date: 1996/07/03

Internet Censorship Gremlins At Work!

rk:  Bear with me folks. This is the second posting of this article. the original--written two days ago--has been stripped from all of the newgroups on which it was posted, and yet older articles that were ..more of the same followed...
 
 

Newsgroups: alt.fan.art-bell, alt.religion.roy-masters
 Date: 1996/10/20

Subject:      Re: To jen's kind comments
From:         Maverick <bretroth@ecst.csuchico.edu>
Date:         1996/10/19
On Fri, 18 Oct 1996 tdkd@aa.net wrote:

On Wed, 16 Oct 1996 02:44:00 GMT, arkent@cdsnet.net (Raymond
Karczewski) wrote:

rk: >    The favorite tool of a hypocrite caught cold in the use of deceptions is their  rolling-off-the-tongue excuse of "just kidding!" One can do a great deal of harm under the cover of "parody." This group uses that tack repeatedly as a means of psychological misdirection and manipulation.

rk:  >  An aware public is an awakened public.

t:    Ray, try this on, GO FUCK YOURSELF. And I'm NOT just kidding, I mean this sincerely, no parody involved here. I do agree that an aware public is an enlightened public, and that is the reason I pray you will leave this newsgroup never to darken my monitor with your useless rantings as you attempt to baffle the unknowing but only succeed in boring the shit out of the already enlightened members of AFA-B.
                                                     Tom

Date:         1996/10/18

Maverick <bretroth@ecst.csuchico.edu> wrote:

On Mon, 7 Oct 1996, APostman wrote:

m:  >> Tim has asked Ray on many occasions to stop cross-posting to the afab newsgroup.  The only response I've seen since posting
here has been Ray's determination to prosletize to a newsgroup
that has no intrest in his dementia.  Since he wont stop he should accept what he gets from afab.  I guess he likes a hot kitchen.

pm: >   no doubt...what nerve....Ray posts all that crap in AFA-B and then wonders aloud where the AFA-B replies come from.  Ray still hasn't  answered my probe about his "purported" life as a police sargeant.  I sense a definite conspiracy here.

rk:  No conspiracy at all. I've faced bullies all my life.  Have yet to back down from one.  You fellas are small potatoes.  You haven't got a clue as to what you are really up against, but as you continue to expose yourselves to the world, you will find out.

Raymond Karczewski  >

t:    Ray, in my opinion, your continued posting here is akin to going into a predominately black neighborhood and shouting niggers suck.  Then calling them bullies when a few of em kick the shit out of you. Why are we considered the bullies when your the one who keeps posting shit here that no one cares to see. Have you ever seen a post in favor of your diatribes coming from any of the afab regulars. I havent. Take your crap elsewhere.
                                                                Tom

Date: 1996/08/06
(Glenn)
Perhaps the above is Tim's not-so-subtle way of calling this lack of courtesy to your attention.  I imagine that if you remove a.f.a-b from your newsgroups, you won't be bothered with any more harrassment from this group.  We  have more than enough things to make fun of without your shtick, I assure you.

Thank you for your cooperation.

glenq@cyberhighway.net

What the heck was it?, February 1, 2003
Reviewer: hokeywolfrules from Winipeg

The mangled meanderings of the author are so verbally confused as to loose all  meaning within the excess verbage. The abuse and over use of adjectives and  adverbs would leave a college linguistics professor, dizzied from the experience  and the only thing to be gained from this piece of 'literature' is a migraine. What  little discernable information is present, is 'borrowed' from popular literature, and is simply an overworded version of something you might find on a religious  pamphlet.

Whoever this publisher is, Ark Enterprises, they did a terrible disservice to the  author by not hiring a qualified editor or literary consultant to screen the text prior to press.

It's a journey beyond thought all right..., November 8, 2002  Reviewer: Richard Riley from Raleigh, NC USA

With as much unnecessary language as this text has, it is hard to think straight while reading it. The author should hire a professional to help him create his book next time. This one left my mind in vapor lock.

Seriously derivative and in need of editing, February 16, 2001
Reviewer: A reader from Oregon

This author would have been best advised to rethink the grandiose scope and style of his essay. Beyond the reductive and strict  repetition of Art Bell, Roy Masters, and Krisnamurti, Mr. Karczewski's  remarks are disconnected, incoherent, and suggest little understanding of what it is to write an effective essay. Even the most basic structures of competent writing are wholly missing from this attempt,  and demonstrate a total lack of commitment to excellence and original thinking. "Ark" Enterprises...has done  Mr. Karczewski a serious disservice by having the text printed without having it edited and reviewed by people experienced in writing and publishing. ....

Lost in Verbaige: Karczewski's journey - a short trip, April 27, 2000
Reviewer: A reader from Eureka, CA

Raymonds literary style is full of the turgid overblown prose that marks the  pseudo-intellectual ramblings of the latter part of the 19th century. The book left me feeling less like I'd taken a journey, and had just read a badly written travel brochure. The writing is verbose to the point that were it tightened just a little, the book would be shortened by about a third. If you are thinking of taking this  particular journey, stay home, find a library copy of Norman Vincent Peale, and spend the money on a take-out pizza
 

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Raymond Karczewski (arkent@arkenterprises.com) wrote:

NOTE:  April 3rd, 2003,  This is the NINTH posting of this article since March 26th.  It is being blocked from appearing on USENET NEWSGROUPS and GOOGLE ARCHIVES.  Read the following,
Once again, the Government/Media Disinfo crowd unable to withstand the exposure must resort to behind  the scenes censorship.

 Subject: Re: An Anonymous Disinformation Agent's Feeble Attempt at Damage Control -- PART II

From: Hokey Wolf (hokeywolfrules@hotmail.com)

 Date: 2003-03-26 02:37:57 PST
 

cc: >>  Again, your persecution is self-inflicted. Stop behaving the kook and  people won't treat you as one. Stop accusing others and confront the  single source of your problems - yourself.

Cardinal Chunder,

hw: > Thought you might want to know that the kazoo, in the following bravenet forum: http://pub17.bravenet.com/forum/show.php?usernum=1435593256
in the following article: http://pub17.bravenet.com/forum/fetch.php?id=10117813&usernum=1435593256
has been comparing an article you posted to a group of posts from 1996.

hw:  He has done this in the past to usenet posters using the handles Bookman and DrPostman, as well as posting things on usenet about bravenet poster Clouded Leopard.

rk:  hw, I'm glad you pointed that out.  It provides necessary proof that my posts are being intercepted by unknown persons and blocked from appearing on USENET newsgroups.  It provides independent corroboration that the post you refer to, i.e., 'A "clouded leopard" and His Pack of Predators Cannot Change Their Spots!!'  was posted on Bravenet groups at the same time it was  posted on USENET groups (including this one).  Yet they are nowhere to be seen on USENET.

rk:  Many Thanks for the assist.

                                Raymond Ronald Karczewski©
 
 

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Date: 03/26/03 03:06:14 PM

Name: chelle  Email: earthshepard@hotmail.com wrote:

Raymond Karczewski (arkent@arkenterprises.com) wrote:

c: >     Brothers & Sisters, I pray for a miracle for my heart and mind. I have had so much fear going through my body for most of my life, that I almost don't know how to have a life.

rk:  Chelle, the miracle you seek is at hand. It has always been, is now, and forever will be.  The miracle you seek is spiritual liberation.

rk:   What is required to access it is the holistic awareness that arises from the silence of true meditation (true prayer) not the fragmented satanic noise of thought projection (false prayer).

rk:  LIFE IS!!  It is nondualistic in essence.  The noise of unfulfilled dualistic based desire is the pain your words presently resonate with.  It arises from your life-long religious conditioning.

c:  >    I feel so much pain, and do not feel able to connect with others without projecting my unmet needs unto them.

rk:  The pain you feel is unfulfilled relief sought by all  codependent civilized human beings who have lost sight of their TRUE state of Being -- that of an holistic (holy) Child of God -- an AWARE human being.

c:  >    I wish to be a part of this world, to join as I never have before in health and prosperity and love from within to    the outer existence.

rk:  Why do you "WISH" (the projection of unfulfilled desire) to be "part of this world" without first having a clear understanding of the "world" and your spiritual relationship to it?

rk:  The world of man, based in man's intellectual projected constructions, is SATANIC.  IT IS NUTS.  IT IS INSANE.  IT IS HELL. Why do you desire to be a part of it?

rk:  Understand the psychological mechanism which binds you to the world of man, and such understanding is the awareness which SETS YOU FREE.  IT IS TRUTH -- DIVINE INTELLIGENCE.

rk:  The first step on the journey to SPIRITUAL LIBERATION must be taken in SILENCE, in FREEDOM.  In that moment of TRUTH, lies the Spiritual Rebirth process.  It is the last step taken in  confusion.

rk:   Clarity is nondualistic AWARENESS.

rk:  Confusion is dualistic thought projection.  It is the essence of Hell on Earth.

rk:  The Resurrection of the Spirit is one's (a Child of God's)  personal transcendence of the conditioned dualistic state of Satanic (Opposer) driven Intellectualism.

rk:  Use the mind for technical problem solving.  That is its proper function.  For Life's non-technical problem solving, die to the mind, end its chattering  BE QUIET, BE AWARE -- LET GO LET GOD!!

rk:  There, Chelle, is the "miracle" which has eluded you in life.

    In gratitude, Chelle

rk:  You're welcome!!

                                       Ray
 
 

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James H (theseaofrequiems@poetic.com) wrote:

Date: 2003-03-30 04:31:51 PST

"Raymond Karczewski" <arkent@arkenterprises.com> wrote

jh:   My dear, dear Raymond,

rk:  And so the Satanic seduction of words begins!!

jh: Your words belie your intent, and you stare unknowingly into the Satanic void which you so deny. Pray tell, whenever did Gold symbolize material wealth?

rk:  When "civilized man," already compromised by his greedy Satanic dualistic nature, regarded it as such!!

jh: Is it not Gold, in which YHVH ordered the forging of the Breastplate of Judgement?

rk:  According to the agenda of ambitious, Satanic, power oriented men who "commissioned" verbally talented slave-minded minions in the writing of  "sacred books."

jh:  And was it not in Gold, that New Jerusalem was described?

rk:  According to man who described it as such.

jh:   Is the great work of alchemy not to transmute base metals
into Gold?

rk:  According to the superficial, intellectualism-based Satanically influenced individuals greedily intent upon accumulation, self-enrichment, and power.

jh:  The depths of heaven and the heights of hell stand witness that you, my friend, are by far, the most base, pitiful Satanist ever known.

rk:  What happened to my "Dear, Dear Raymond"?  Doesn't take long for you Satanic yahoos to come apart at the seams, does it?

jh:  And what of the sovereign children of god? What of free will? Was it through free will that humanity was created? The fundamental fact in this lies, man never asked to be created, yet, our merciful father created us from the salt of the earth, flayed our own brethren, and condemned those who strayed
from him to Acheron.

rk:  Inasmuch as you haven't a glimmer of understanding of that of which you speak (as do not most other verbally talented, Satanically ruled Intellectual BS'ing hypocrites) regarding the creation of humanity, your assumptions and empty questions are just that -- EMPTY!!

jh:   Such was the love he had for man -- by his whims and fancies were we created, and by his whims and fancies will we be judged.

rk:  Oh Ye of little Intelligence, do you YET not see the blind act of your projected IGNORANCE rife in your own words?  You merely REPEAT, REPEAT, REPEAT the same soul-condemning actions of the "witchdoctors" and  "worldly priests" who sought and still seek power over the maleable minds of primitive and modern-day "conditioned ignoramuses."

rk:  Looks to me like you've "Fallen from Grace" and can't get up?

jh:   It matters not that he offered salvation from his own left hand, for man was created, all the universe was created, through the selfish whim of god.

rk:  From what page of what book written by worldly man did you grasp that little bit of hearsay?

jh:  You call all things Satanic, yet, forget that Satan, the adversary, was god's own creation; created for the purpose to test mankind, and cannot operate without the commission of god.

rk:  Ah!  Satanic rationalization -- how predictable of you.

jh:  You accuse those in the infernal realms of being incapable of Love, yet they oft remain the most loving and passionate of all creation; was it not passion that impelled Lucifer to
stand against the tyrant, even if it would cost him his life, position, and glory?

rk:  Another bit of rote-like conditioning gleaned from the non-Christlike worldly writings of a Satanic-minded (dualistic-Opposing) man attempting to transform timebound IGNORANCE (a sow's ear) into timeless wisdom (a silk purse).

rk:  Only in the Satanic-ruled World of civilized man does such IGNORANCE thrive.  The fact that there are more of you than there are Christs on this earth only gives testimony to Hell on Earth.

rk:  HADES, isn't it?

jh:   Was it not said that there is no greater love than this, that one would lay down his life for another? Ambition or not, Lucifer lay down his life for what he believed in, for his dream, which he held to his heart so dearly, so lovingly. You who believe you are christ, judge ye not lest ye be judged; for in the depths of hades, you shall not be received gently.

rk:  Forget it "------bub"  you're wasting your breath.  I'm here on a visitor's pass.  I am in this Satanically-ruled world, but not of it.

jh:  Death and destruction to Iraqi brothers and sisters, did god think of that when he called upon Israel to ravage and loot the lands of others?

rk:  No, but Satan worshipping worldly elitists certainly did.

jh:  Did god think of that when he called Israel to circle three times blowing his horn?

rk:  See what I mean about the manipulative use of myth and superstition in creating misdirection/strife in the Satanic-driven (Opposer-driven)  intellect via the venue of  language?

jh:  Did god think of that when he flooded the earth?

rk:  Your blatant ignorance cannot be disguised by indulging in  presumptions, when you lack comprehension.

jh:   Boycott, boycott, boycott?

rk:  YOU BET!!! BOYCOTT, BOYCOTT, BOYCOTT is the ONLY ACTION which ACTUALLY WITHDRAWS LIFE SUPPORT from ALL SATANIC AGENDAS.

rk:  Without support, where goeth the agenda of WAR?  To its own death and disolution, does it not?  Come on now, even you and the other millions of IGNORAMUSES who populate the nations of this world can't really be THAT DUMB, can you?

rk:   The headlines which forge public opinion show that millions of IGNORAMUSES are indeed incapable of seeing the effectiveness of BOYCOTT, BOYCOTT, BOYCOTT as an ABSOLUTE antidote to tyranny.

rk:  In addition, the daily headlines now considered normal and commonplace by inhabitants of the civilized world of man readily attest to the Media's success at implementing its agenda of  SATANIC CONDITIONING.

rk:  Hell, isn't it?

jh:   Be thou a good christ and turn the other cheek.

rk:  DONE -- slap it, kiss it, or ignore it.  It's all up to you now, isn't it?

                        Raymond Ronald Karczewski©

I remain,
Most sincerely yours,
O.·.D.·.A.·.C.·.N.·.

In Caelum Conscendam
Super Astra Dei Exaltabo Solium Meum
Sedebo in Monte Testamenti in Lateribus Aquilonis
Ascendam Super Altitudinem Nubium
Ero Altissimo

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rk:  Look at these anonymous articles posted on these forums within the last several days.  Note the typical terseness/lack of evidence existing in their *smear* technique.

rk:  Note their requirement for anonymity.  The technique used by these anonymous cowards was Hitler's favorite mind control ploy; i.e., the"Big Lie."  A deliberate emotion-evoking imaged-based *smear* lacking any evidence whatsoever is repeated, repeated, repeated, until the receptive, subconscious, satanic-driven Intellect begins to regard the *smear* as truth.

rk:  Example?  See "saul paul's" response below. saul paul is a key individual within the government/media disinformation team, he uses many, many, many different names.

rk:  Let me make this very simple for anyone wishing to discredit my writing on the Internet.   For the past eight years of writing, I have challenged these disinformation *yahoos* to find ONE (1) single *Contradiction in Essence* in any or all of my Internet writing.  This is the measure of Truth.  This challenge has been held out throughout past years, yet not one such "Contradiction in Essence," accompanied by full supporting evidence of such, in context, contradiction has been brought forth by these cowardly libeling detractors.

rk:  I have ALWAYS identified my posts with my True Name.  I HAVE NEVER used any other name(s) and/or "sockpuppets" in posting my articles to these Internet Forums/Newsgroups.

rk:  However, it is unavoidable that the serious investigative reader will eventually run into the many forgeries, mimics, and out-of-context word-twisting manufacturers who imitate my writing style on these groups.  Does it cause confusion for readers?  You bet!  That is their aim.  It is from that tangential illusion  that such character assassination/disinformation agenda is allowed to play itself out.

rk:  The plain and simple Truth is that I, Raymond Karczewski, am a simple man of Truth, "a" Christ.

rk:  Were the truth of such a simple statement to be realized by millions and millions of blind believers trained throughout millenia to worship MYTH and LEGEND, the Satanic Mind Controllers who wield such power on this planet over the human intellect would be ousted and the "Meek would Inherit the Earth." Listen to my Sound File at: http://www.arkenterprises.com/meek.html

rk:  One may search the Google Archives and they will find the same narrow group of responders to my articles although they use a myriad of aliases to create the illusion of a consensus.  A closer look, however, reveals the same superficial methods, techniques, writing styles and libelous attacks by the same government/media sponsored/supported Disinformation Agents who control the flow of communication on these newsgroups/forums.

rk:  An example of the time-tested disinformation techniques used may be seen in "saul paul's" assertion that I have "threatened my neighbors."  I have NEVER threatened a neighbor in my life.  Nor am I a fugitive fleeing the authorities of three states.  Nor have I required services of mental health professionals in my life.  Note that which is missing in these libels presented by these disinformation agents -- ACTUAL evidence.

rk:  A reasonable reader may ask themselves why my posts have  merited the dogged attention of such satanic minions bent on character assassination over the last 8 years on the Internet.

rk:  Does not a simple solution exist for the problems experienced by all those who profess to be so outraged by my articles, books and tapes that they erect Web Sites and write phony book reviews on the amazon.com review page for the purposes of ridicule and defamation -- DO NOT READ MY ARTICLES!!

rk:  As the facts will show, that simple solution is not acceptable to them.  There's much more to it than meets the eye.  They don't want you EXPOSED to the simple Truth contained in my writing.  WHY?!

rk:  These government/media sponsored/supported mind controllers/disinformation agents are more concerned with MISDIRECTING public attention away from serious dialogue.  Dialogue which would shed light on the subject of mind control over suggestible, codependent "sheeple" and strip away their attention from phony wars which drain them of their assets, their liberty, and for some, their lives.

rk:  My writings present the key to spiritual liberation.  They are a WAKE UP call to all Satanically hell-bound slaves/minions -- those who haven't a clue as to why their life on Earth becomes such a Hellish experience whenever their escapist pleasure/pain addictions have loosened their psychological hold over them.

rk:   In other words, I simply demonstrate how anyone can hold the Satanic "HAVES" -- the *asset draining,* word-twisting spiritual vampires -- responsible for their societally approved, Institutional/legalistic/court-based "wealth transfusions" from the "HAVE NOT" value producers."

rk:  When the average person comes to understand and realize their own Christhood, their True Nature as a Child of Truth, of Infinite Intelligence, of GOD, the Meek Indeed Shall Inherit the Earth.

                                            Raymond Ronald Karczewski©

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 Subject: I am so sick of ignorance

Date: 03/30/03 05:31:44 AM

Name: Jack  Email:

    It seems like the world is filled with nothing but ignorance. Everywhere I turn, stupidity and ignorance, on every street corner, in every place of business. Is there no escape?

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Subject: Here is the perfect example

Date: 03/31/03 12:31:21 PM

Name: Jack  Email:

    This ray karczeski and his Christ complex is just one example of the ignorance in the world. A convict, a false  messiah, a general idiot. A word twisting coward that tries to outsmart others one line at a time, and what is that "rk:" acronymn he sticks in all his articles? His name is on it, why does he need to insert that stuff?

    He is ignorant and he is stupid. Next please.

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 Subject: Re: Re: I am so sick of ignorance

Date: 04/2/03 12:54:29 PM

Name: Jack   Email:

    He is the looney-bird I'm complaining about. He has completely ruined all the forums I used to write for and it
looks like he has done the same thing here.

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Subject: Re: I am so sick of ignorance

Date: 04/2/03 05:12:49 AM

Name: Saul Paul Email:

    I agree Jack. Just one word of advice: Stay out of Cave Junction Oregon. Ray's not only an idiot, he's armed    (literally) and has issued repeated threats against his neighbors. He should be going back to jail within a  month though, so people are hoping to see him off the streets, locked up, and getting the psychiatric attention he so desperately needs.

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Subject: You are a fvcking psycho

Date: 04/1/03 03:14:37 PM

Name: Raoul C. Email:

    What kind of psycho rant is THIS?

    BOYCOTT THIS FORUM YOU MORON.

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Subject: Raymond Karczewski and his wife are CONVICTED CHILD PORNOGRAPHERS!!!

Date: 04/2/03 09:18:52 AM

Name: Thomas  Email:

    Why don't you tell us about your child pornography ring, you fucking pervert!
 
 

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Listen to the Sound File at  http://www.arkenterprises.com/atwar.html
 

Jack Foote
www.ranchrescue.com
volunteer@ranchrescue.com

Hello Jack,

    Good program Jack.  I perceive a shift in consciousness in  the American People, subtle though it may be.  We are moving away from the idle talk stage, but we must be careful not to over react.

    Here is the link to the poster WE AMERICANS ARE AT WAR, I read on John Stadtmiller's program. http://www.arkenterprises.com/atwar1.html

   Most people are inert, outer directed, and are content to wait for another to start a momentum so that they may join in.

   Most people in our world (not just in our country) live in fear, uncertainty and frustration from the conditioned codependent spirit which has enslaved them.

   They need some simple act they may perform to feel empowered.  They need to do something that will touch their latent spirit of freedom, of liberty.  They also need something that does not bring with it a great or harmful downside.  There are, indeed, few risk takers in our dumbed-down, conditioned society.

   I perceive a Nation's people having these posters displayed at the front doors of their homes, at their businesses, on community bulletin boards, on telephone poles, etc, coupled with a peaceful BOYCOTT of government, to be the only way for us as a people to emerge from this government created mess without resorting to a bloody revolution.

   If this non-violent approach is not seen as the only viable solution to an otherwise unsolvable problem, government will SURELY back us up against the wall, strip away the last vestige of our freedom, and a SHOOTING revolution will be the only option left.

  GOD HELP US IF IT COMES TO THAT!!
 
 

                      Raymond Ronald Karczewski©

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Patricia B.  wrote:

Raymond Karczewski (arkent@arkenterprises.com) wrote:

Patricia (may I call you "Pat"?),

     Thank you for your email.  You are quite correct in your findings.  That is the ESSENCE of my case -- JURISDICTION.

     Not only am I a "stranger in a strange land" (a simple man of truth, a Christ, living in a land ruled by hypocrisy and deception), I am a sovereign (a son of GOD) living in a land of subjects (Intellectually-driven, slave-minded Satanicly ruled minions).  Of course, through years of mind control, the masses of Satanically mind controlled minions are not even aware of it. They term their spiritual and psychological enslavement as NORMAL while they remain in their dithered state of UNAWARENESS.

     You see, Pat, I recaptured my sovereignty by legally changing my Status from  debtor to creditor when I realized the massive fraud which was perpetrated upon the American People via the "seemingly innocuous (but freedom destroying) procedure of "BIRTH CERTIFICATION."

     Yes, Pat, our innocent and well psychologically-conditioned mothers turned their children over to the STATE (as obedient minions are apt to do) when they "REGISTERED" the birth of their offspring at the hospital.  Read up on the legal ramifications of REGISTRATION.

     It is then that souls are sold into slavery, and the newly born human being becomes property of the state and is regarded as a ward of the State.  They are magickly transformed (as only legal deceivers, i.e, lawyers can do) into a human resource and/or chattel (personal property of the State) whose future labor may exploited, traded and pledge in the Commercial arena as a Security Instrument.  How else do you think they get minions to take on the bogus NATIONAL DEBT and WAGE WAR against other nations, and pay for it with debt instruments (Federal Reserve Notes,  funny money, worthless paper)?

     Yes, Pat, you are correct when you state that Americans are currently living under the thrall of Administrative Law, Maritime Law, the law of contracts.  Laws administered by judges and lawyers who owe their primary allegiance to the "Crown" of England ("B.A.R." Association = BRITISH ACCREDITED REGISTRY) and not the U.S. Constitution.  Go ahead, next time you find yourself standing before the court, bring up the issue of primary allegiance as per their "Oath of Office."  Try to get a straight answer out of them.  Lotsa luck!!  Americans are surrounded by organized traitorous Servants who dream they are Masters.  It is time, is it not, to get rid of lawyers via the conflict of interest they have in swearing an oath to support the Constitution while holding public office all the while owing primary allegiance to a foreign power?

     Wisdom dictates that one should not resist evil.

     The ESSENCE of Supreme Intelligence offers instead, the nonresistance of  BOYCOTT.

    Have you not heard that LOVE conquers ALL?

     Modern day Americans have sold their heritage for a "mess of pottage", for the indolent comfort of codependent security, welfare, etc.  They have ignorantly *contracted* away their Unalienable Rights through the simple act of waiver.

   Pat, I have not waived any of my rights in this issue.  I stand adamantly, as a Sovereign common man unyielding in his challenge to the Maritime/Administrative Court to prove its  limited JURISDICTION over one who has not entered into a contract with the Agents of the corporation known as GOVERNMENT.  They are unable to prove such JURISDICTION.

   That, Pat, is the crux of the issue in my voluminous writing on this JURISDICTION matter wherein they have refused to answer questions presented them in court registered documents demanding they prove in writing their claim against a sovereign (as present case law compels), and/or show proof of liability to the Corporate Statutes which ruled the lives of unenlightened minions, i.e., the average voter.

   As to your comment on how my website is being used, I must admit the recent turn of events have caused a departure from the original momentum of my site.  Pat, my offerings are directed toward the spiritual, not the political needs of my Brothers and Sisters.  It is toward the Holistic and not the energized fragmented energies of the spiritually blind who have made a mess of their lives and of their/our world, refusing to acknowledge even a scintilla of personal contribution for the world they have created for themselves.. How else do you think hypocrite servants are allowed  to rule on and off the bench as though they were Master.

   Pat, I have only one word which fits the Satanic Ruled world of man --  BASSACKWARDS!!

   LIVE IT OR DON'T -- That is the only message I bring to others in my writings.

   See for yourself, the HELL THAT IT HAS RAISED!
See:  http://www.arkenterprises.com and      http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialchst.htm

                                      Raymond Karczewski
 

At 02:31 PM 4/6/03 -0700, you wrote:
Dear Raymond:

I have been following your emails very carefully since your release from incarceration.  I am also awaiting whatever those administrative "judges" plan next.

In my researching rulings from the Supreme Court in the early days and up to now, I ran across some very interesting words from the SC judges.  So I began to review the US Codes Annotated, and some of the email from Pamela Gaston.  The word has moved from email to email that we have administrative "law".  There are treatise by folks which give citations.  So, I go after these citations.

Yes, we are under administrative law.  Corporate administrative law.  Private, rules that is.  I read up on this about six years ago and just could not believe it.  It is difficult to find that which has no direction, but people just talk and do nothing.  These citations of "law" are complicated by overlay of other rules, regulations, and bureaucratic clerks (like the DMV).  The constitution gives no authority for congress to delegate its authority, except where explicitly stated.  Congress gives not a hoot and continues to delegate its authority by "house resolutions" and by making a treaty with some obscure little dinky country that gives congress (they believe) the authority to run over every state in the union's sovereignty.  They forget Marburough v Maddison which was clearly stated any law repugnant to the Constitution is invalid.  I keep hearing from even our young folks, gee those were old laws.  As long as congress has these old goats who continually raise their salaries and perks yearly, give our "social security funds" to 17 countries and now Mexico, tax us beyond reasonableness, give our businesses to other countries by moving entire plants and machinery to our not so pleasant "partners" and charge it to the taxpayer, we are doomed.

The reasoning congress lives with and enjoys? is their absolute understanding of ADMINISTRATIVE RULES, REGULATIONS and the implementation thereof. The IRS, CIA, FBI and all the alphabets are ADMINISTRATIVE.  It is only when there is a constitutional subject, can the Supreme Court act.  And, it's administrative, too. We are back to the days of olde merry England.

We have no constitutional courts.  Except maybe the possible finding of the one hidden in the Court of International Trade?  Hawaii on entrance to the union asked for and got an Article III court.  But congress did not appoint any constitutional judges.  They are ADMINISTRATIVE.  Dumb Hawaii people?  Congress knows exactly what they are doing. From stem to stern.

I am also working on the "tribunals" in the Constitution.  Has congress misappropriated that term?  Looks like it.  Those are our present courts today.  Oregon has the tribunals.  I got involved in it, too.  Forget the statutes on the books.  It's whatever the administrative judge declares, especially to his friends.

We have a better chance at our own legislature than congress.  Even though Oregon has continued to remain within the democrat conclave, it is because there is no difference between democrat and republican.  Democrats hi-jacked republican party by moving over and calling themselves republicans to get elected.  Those people are called RHINO's (republican in name only).  But their political philosophy can NEVER change.  Remember Reagan moved over and got elected.  But there was still underlying philosophical differences which showed up in the State Department.  We have the same thing with Bush.

We do have Montana, Wyoming, Idaho, moving to recapture their sovereign authority.  Maybe New Mexico, too, but their work is made more difficult so close to Mexico with the overwhelming immigrants.

I would hope that your web site would be used also for acting on specific subjects for Oregonians to write their legislators.  Rallying the troops to notify their legislators on what "laws" would deprive us of our constitutional rights; US and state.  People need to be motivated to DO for themselves and others.  Too few of us carry the burden of the many.  People ask me "what can I do".  Write a letter.  What do I say?  It just has to be placed in front of them until they have learned the art of motivation.  I go to many meetings.  There are always letters pre-typed to mix and match with addresses of the intended recipient.

And, a reminder.  One is always guilty under ADMINISTRATIVE "law".

Best wishes and God bless,

Patricia
Cave Junctiion, Oregon 97523

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"Marvin Smith" (alaburda@bellsouth.net) wrote:

Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 23:40:43 -0400

Dear Mrs.Karczewski,
 
I just finished reading about your husbands trial on newswithviews.com and would like to know the outcome.  Following is the primary reason our country is no more..............
 
March 25, 2003
 

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government.  It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote  themselves money from the public treasure.  From that moment on the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most money from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy followed by a dictatorship.  The average age of the world's great civilizations has been two hundred years. These nations have progressed through the following sequence:  from bondage to spiritual faith, from spiritual faith to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency, from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependency, from dependency back to bondage."
 
(--Lord Alexander Tyler on the fall of the Athenian republic)
 
This country has gone from a Sovereign Republic under American Common Law, the Mosaic Laws, to a Corporate Democracy under Administrative Law.

What our politicians offer today is totally opposite of what our Founding Fathers meant this country to be. May God have mercy on their souls.

I think you also might enjoy reading the following article.  I hope everything turned out alright for you and your husband.

Respectfully,

Marvin Smith
 

The American legal system has been corrupted almost beyond recognition, Judge Edith Jones of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit told the Federalist Society of Harvard Law School on February 28.  She said that the question of what is morally right is routinely sacrificed to what is politically expedient. The change has come because legal philosophy has  descended to nihilism.
 
 "The integrity of law, its religious roots, its transcendent quality are disappearing. I saw the movie 'Chicago' with Richard Gere the other day. That's the way the public thinks about lawyers," she told the students.

"The first 100 years of American lawyers were trained on Blackstone, who wrote that: 'The law of nature … dictated by God himself … is binding … in all counties and at all times; no human laws are of any validity if contrary to this; and such of them as are valid derive all force and all their authority … from this original.' The Framers created a government of limited power with this understanding of the rule of law - that it was dependent on transcendent religious obligation," said Jones.

She said that the business about all of the Founding Fathers being deists is "just wrong," or "way overblown, she says they believed in "faith and reason," and this did not lead to intolerance.

"This is not a prescription for intolerance or narrow sectarianism," she continued, "for unalienable rights were given by God to all our fellow citizens. Having lost sight of the moral and religious foundations of the rule of law, we are vulnerable to the destruction of our freedom, our equality before the law and our self-respect. It is my fervent hope that this new century will experience a revival of the original understanding of the rule of law and its roots.

 "The answer is a recovery of moral principle, the sine qua non of an orderly society. Post 9/11, many events have been clarified. It is hard to remain a moral relativist when your own people are being killed."

According to the judge, the first contemporary threat to the rule of law comes from within the legal system itself.

Alexis de Tocqueville, author of Democracy in America and one of the first writers to observe the United States from the outside looking-in, "described lawyers as a natural aristocracy in America," Jones told the students. "The intellectual basis of their profession and the study of law based on venerable precedents bred in them habits of order and a taste for formalities and predictability." As Tocqueville saw it, "These qualities enabled attorneys to stand apart from the passions of the majority. Lawyers were respected by the citizens and able to guide them moderate the public's whims. Lawyers were essential to tempering the potential tyranny of the majority.

"Some lawyers may still perceive our profession in this flattering light, but to judge from polls and the tenor of lawyer jokes, I doubt the public shares Tocqueville's view anymore, and it is hard for us to do so.

"The legal aristocracy have shed their professional independence for the temptations and materialism associated with becoming businessmen. Because law has become a self-avowed business, pressure mounts to give clients the advice they want to hear, to pander to the clients' goal through deft manipulation of the law. … While the business mentality produces certain benefits, like occasional competition to charge clients lower fees, other adverse effects include advertising and shameless self-promotion.
The legal system has also been wounded by lawyers who themselves no longer respect the rule of law,"

 The judge quoted Kenneth Starr as saying, "It is decidedly unchristian to win at any cost," and added that most lawyers agree with him.

However, "An increasingly visible and vocal number apparently believe that the strategic use of anger and incivility will achieve their aims. Others seem uninhibited about making misstatements to the court or their opponents or destroying or falsifying evidence," she claimed. "When lawyers cannot be trusted to observe the fair processes essential to maintaining the rule of law, how can we expect the public to respect the process?"

        Lawsuits Do Not Bring 'Social Justice'

Another pernicious development within the legal system is the misuse of lawsuits, according to her.

"We see lawsuits wielded as weapons of revenge," she says. "Lawsuits are brought that ultimately line the pocket of lawyers rather than their clients. … The lawsuit is not the best way to achieve social justice, and to think it is, is a seriously flawed hypothesis. There are better ways to achieve social goals than by going into court."
 
Jones said that employment litigation is a particularly fertile field for this kind of abuse.
 
"Seldom are employment discrimination suits in our court supported by direct evidence of race or sexual animosity. Instead, the courts are asked to revisit petty interoffice disputes and to infer invidious motives from trivial comments or work-performance criticism. Recrimination, second-guessing and suspicion plague the workplace when tenuous discrimination suits are filed … creating an atmosphere in which many corporate defendants are forced into costly settlements because they simply cannot afford to vindicate their positions.

"While the historical purpose of the common law was to compensate for individual injuries, this new litigation instead purports to achieve redistributive social justice. Scratch the surface of the attorneys' self-serving press releases, however, and one finds how enormously profitable social redistribution is for those lawyers who call themselves 'agents of change.'"

Jones wonders, "What social goal is achieved by transferring millions of dollars to the lawyers, while their clients obtain coupons or token rebates."
 
The judge quoted George Washington who asked in his Farewell Address, "Where is the security for property, for reputation, for life, if the sense of religious obligation desert the oaths … in courts of justice?"

Similarly, asked Jones, how can a system founded on law survive if the administrators of the law daily display their contempt for it?

"Lawyers' private morality has definite public consequences," she said. "Their misbehavior feeds on itself, encouraging disrespect and debasement of the rule of law as the public become encouraged to press their own advantage in a system they perceive as manipulatable."

The second threat to the rule of law comes from government, which is encumbered with agencies that have made the law so complicated that it is difficult to decipher and often contradicts itself.

"Agencies have an inherent tendency to expand their mandate," says Jones. "At the same time, their decision-making often becomes parochial and short-sighted. They may be captured by the entities that are ostensibly being regulated, or they may pursue agency self-interest at the expense of the public welfare. Citizens left at the mercy of selective and unpredictable agency action have little recourse."

Jones recommends three books by Philip Howard: The Death of Common Sense, The Collapse of the Common Good and The Lost Art of Drawing the Line, which further delineate this problem.

The third and most comprehensive threat to the rule of law arises from contemporary legal philosophy.

"Throughout my professional life, American legal education has been ruled by theories like positivism, the residue of legal realism, critical legal studies, post-modernism and other philosophical fashions," said Jones. "Each of these theories has a lot to say about the 'is' of law, but none of them addresses the 'ought,' the moral foundation or direction of law."

Jones quoted Roger C. Cramton, a law professor at Cornell University, who wrote in the 1970s that "the ordinary religion of the law school classroom" is "a moral relativism tending toward nihilism, a pragmatism tending toward an amoral instrumentalism, a realism tending toward cynicism, an individualism tending toward atomism, and a faith in reason and democratic processes tending toward mere credulity and idolatry."

No 'Great Awakening' In Law School Classrooms

The judge said ruefully, "There has been no Great Awakening in the law school classroom since those words were written." She maintained that now it is even worse because faith and democratic processes are breaking down.

"The problem with legal philosophy today is that it reflects all too well the broader post-Enlightenment problem of philosophy," Jones said. She quoted Ernest Fortin, who wrote in Crisis magazine: "The whole of modern thought … has been a series of heroic attempts to reconstruct a world of human meaning and value on the basis of … our purely mechanistic understanding of the universe."
 
Jones said that all of these threats to the rule of law have a common thread running through them, and she quoted Professor Harold Berman to identify it: "The traditional Western beliefs in the structural integrity of law, its ongoingness, its religious roots, its transcendent qualities, are disappearing not only from the minds of law teachers and law students but also from the consciousness of the vast majority of citizens, the people as a whole; and more than that, they are disappearing from the law itself. The law itself is becoming more fragmented, more subjective geared more to expediency and less to morality. … The historical soil of the Western legal tradition is being washed away … and the tradition itself is threatened with collapse."
 
Judge Jones concluded with another thought from George Washington: "Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim the tribute patriotism who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness - these firmest props of the duties of men and citizens."

Upon taking questions from students, Judge Jones recommended Michael Novak's book, On Two Wings: HumbleFaith and Common Sense.

"Natural law is not a prescriptive way to solve problems," Jones said. "It is a way to look at life starting with the Ten Commandments."

Natural law provides "a framework for government that permits human freedom," Jones said. "If you take that away, what are you left with? Bodily senses? The will of the majority? The communist view? What is it - 'from each according to his ability, to each according to his need?' I don't even remember it, thank the Lord," she said to the amusement of the students.

"I am an unabashed patriot - I think the United States is the healthiest society in the world at this point in time,"

Jones said, although she did concede that there were other ways to accommodate the rule of law, such as constitutional monarchy.

"Our legal system is way out of kilter," she said. "The tort litigating system is wreaking havoc. Look at any trials that have been conducted on TV. These lawyers are willing to say anything."

        Potential Nominee to Supreme Court

Judge Edith Jones has been mentioned as a potential nominee to the Supreme Court in the Bush administration, but does not relish the idea.

"Have you looked at what people have to go through who are nominated for federal appointments? They have to answer questions like, 'Did you pay your nanny taxes?' 'Is your yard man illegal?'

"In those circumstances, who is going to go out to be a federal judge? People who have accomplished nothing in other words, federal employees."

Judge Edith H. Jones has a B.A. from Cornell University and a J.D. from the University of Texas School of Law. She was appointed to the Fifth Circuit by President Ronald Reagan in 1985. Her office is in the U.S. Courthouse in Houston.

The Federalist Society was founded in 1982 when a group of law students from Harvard, Stanford, the University of Chicago and Yale organized a symposium on federalism at Yale Law School. These students were unhappy with the academic climate on their campuses for some of the reasons outlined by Judge Jones. The Federalist Society was created to be a forum for a wider range of legal viewpoints than they were hearing in the course of their studies.

From the four schools mentioned above, the Society has grown to include over 150 law school chapters. The Harvard chapter, with over 250 members, is one of the nation's largest and most active. They seek to contribute to civilized dialogue at the Law School by providing a libertarian and conservative voice on campus and by sponsoring speeches and debates on a wide range of legal and policy issues.

The Federalist Society consists of libertarians and conservatives interested in the current state of the legal profession. It is founded on three principles: 1) the state exists to preserve freedom, 2) the separation of governmental powers is central to our Constitution and 3) it is emphatically the province and duty of the judiciary to state what the law is, not what it should be.
 

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