Date: 02/3/03 05:11:32 AM

Clouded Leopard  Email:   wrote:

Raymond Karczewski (arkent@arkenterprises.com) wrote:
 

Tell you what, oh cowardly anonymous "clouded leopard."  Identify your posts with your verified true name.  Let's find out who you work for.

Sign your post as required as if it were an Sworn Affidavit -- under penalty of perjury.

With that simple gesture of good faith, we can then get together and draw up an actual sworn affidavit. All legal like. Then you may repeat your libels, and we can wrap this character assassination campaign up once and for all!

That is of course, unless you choose to continue in your present mode of deception, and/or change your name once again.

Until then all you will get from this end will be the mirroring of your hypocrisy for all to see.  My name is on every one of my posts (and also on the Internet-cluttering forged posts I didn't write).

Your move, oh cowardly hypocrite!!

                        Raymond Karczewski©

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Date: 02/3/03 05:11:32 AM

Name: Clouded Leopard  Email:

Subject: Raymond Karczewski: His Satanicly Arrogant Hypocrisy Exposed

Raymond Karczewski: His Satanicly Arrogant Hypocrisy Exposed
by Clouded Leopard

    Raymond Karczewski, self proclaimed messiah and logomaniac, and should from this day forth be known as a raybot. He is so predictable in his posts, responses to his own posts, and reactionary responses to other's  posts, that he is considered mechanical in nature. He engages in two forms of dialog, that of the  condescending teacher, and that of the reactionary raybot.

    He is nominated for the popular "Kook of the Month Award" every month, and the much coveted "Kook of the Year Award" every year, for the past eight years. I wholeheartedly endorse these nominations, and since the  incept of Crank.net, he is readily a fast nominee for the daily "Crank o' the Day" prize.

    He partakes in dialog (the iconic self-worship of his kazooness) but not debate (although he argues that  argument is not debate, a satanic practice) He has several default reactions when confronted by his many righteous detractors.

    1. When he isn't sure if he can win an argument, be will bluff via a refusal to respond with clarity. This is  demonstrated by an adjective and adverb laced interdictment against a detractor, that is intentionally  formulated to be indistinguishable from gibberish, yet emulates artificial intelligence by employing an expansive  vocabulary of arcane and obscure words.

    2. When he knows that he will loose the argument, he refuses to respond at all, pretending the argument  never existed.

    3. When he has obviously lost an argument, he will revert to his Mirror of Truth, claiming that he alone exists on a spiritual plane that is not answerable to the "lowly being" that is confronting him, generally followed by trite insults.

    He claims he is Christ, and that his proof of Christhood lies in the fact that he is rejected as Christ. Lets compare the attributes of Christ and Karczewski, just to see how the facts play out.

    Attributes of Jesus Christ
    1. Rejected by the political leaders of his time.
    2. Widely accepted by his peers.
    3. Gave his ear to anyone who asked.
    4. Explained his concept of spirituality in terms easily digested by the masses.
    5. Humble, soft spoken, polite.
    6. Sermonized advocation of benevolence, spirituality, and kindness.
    7. His sermons centered on spirituality, not politics. He did not criticize Rome.
    8. Rendered his thoughts and feelings to any who would ask.

    Attributes of Raymond Karczewski
    1. Rejected by the political leaders of his time
    2. Widely REJECTED by his peers, as a matter of fact, he is a joke to his peers.
    3. Refuses to listen to anyone that doesn't iconify and deify him.
    4. Obfuscates his speech with excessive adjectives and adverbs or claims that understanding is beyond  vocabulary.
    5. Arrogant, boisterous, and pompous.
    6. Preaches that the world is out to get him, that we must fight back with as much zeal as we can muster.
    7. His rants center on how the NWO is conspiring against him. Constantly criticizes political administrations that  hold him responsible for his illegal activities.
    8. Forces his opinions upon others via a process of spamming, even when asked to refrain from said    spamming.

    Well, there you have it. Raymond attempts to subvert our thinking into a baser, more primative fight or flight response, rather than create a well thought out, logical plan. He reinforces this by claiming that thought is Satanic, thereby implying that we should act, not with fore thought, but on impulse. What is truly scary is the fact that he is able to rationalize his distorted views even though he is entrenched in a static state of hypnotic stupor.

    What he lacks in intelligence he more than makes up with belligerance. He chronically demonstrates his ignorance of spiritual concepts by using irrelevant metaphors, incomprehensible cliches, and indecipherable  linguistic acrobatics in an arrogant attempt to convince us that he is knowledgable and correct by some  cryptographic and arcane standard. He acts as if he alone has the requisite qualifications to preach proper  spirituality to the masses, and that they owe him their attention. Most of his message has been plagiarized from  new age pop culture, science fiction magazine articles, and old Doctor Who episodes.

    He is obsessively paranoid, whereas ANYONE that questions or disagrees with him is a Government/Media Sponsored/Supported Internet Disinformation Agent. Whenever responsible forum moderators delete his confused, off topic posts, he blames the New World Order, Anonymous Internet Censors, and Government    Employed Hackers for censoring him because he has such a potent and dangerous message. And what is his  message? Aside from a blastphemous espousement of Christhood and politics, he is simply mad at the Josephine County legal system for holding him responsible for his illegal actions. What illegal actions you ask?  Lets list those here:

    1. Unsafe driving (he did not dim his highbeams when approaching a police cruiser)
    2. Driving without a license
    3. Driving without insurance (you cannot obtain a policy without a valid license)
    4. Failure to appear for sentencing.
    5. There are rumors that he has had an outstanding arrest warrant in California fot years, but those reports  are unconfirmed. Is that information available on Westlaw?

    This all happened when he was driving back from one of his gambling excursions in Las Vegas. He gambles  (and looses) his welfare on the slots and blackjack tables on a monthly basis. You know, if he would have just paid his fine, then all of this wouldn't be necessary, but he must have gambled away too much money. He  doesn't work, and doesn't want to have to get a job so he uses this "agenda" that he doesn't need to obey rules, because he is special. He isn't special, but what he is, is a kook. What makes Raymond a kook? Lets look at an abbreviated list of what makes a kook a kook. Most kooks exhibit several of these characteristics, so lets score Raymond.

    1. Kooks make lists of their enemies
    Raymond does this often, collecting various posts that ridicule him. Look in the google archives, he often groups multiple detractor posts in a single Raymond Rant, declaring that they are all against him as if to expose some "hidden" agenda.

    2. Kooks are control freaks.
    Raymond wants to control everyones thoughts and actions. He attempt this by badgering, harassing, stalking,  attacking, threatening and other such shadow prowling tactics.

    3. Kooks are paranoid.
    Need I remind you that the Government/Media Sponsored/Supported Internet Disinformation Agents are out to    censor and ridicule him? How about the CIA agents that gave him herpes with electronic equipment, or stole  gravel from his driveway with Stealth Trucks?

    4. Kooks are always right.
    Has Raymond EVER, JUST ONCE, admitted to being wrong, about ANYTHING?

    5. KOOKS LIKE TO SHOUT IN ALL CAPS.
    One thing I can say about the crass lout, he doesn't do that, although he does type an occasional word or two in all caps. I will give him the benefit of the doubt on this one.

    6. Kooks are obsessed.
    Jeez, how could Raymond even begin to deny this. Has anyone ever examined the 70 some pages of  redundant Ramondesque writings on his "website". If that isn't obsession, then murder isn't killing.

    7. Kooks will create sockpuppets that simulate followers and battle detractors. Lets remember Rudolf Underwood and his Godhood article, and that is just one example that is READILY present and available to the Discerning reader.

    8. Kooks are incapable of intellectual debate.
    Guess who claims debate is Satanic, thereby excusing himself from it. I suppose you could say, he renders  himself inert.

    9. Kooks don't have a sense of humor, and especially cannot laugh about themselves.  Goodness, thats 8 out of 9. Who was it said that laughter was the language of the soul? I always knew    Raymond was spineless, heartless, and pretty much dead inside, but this is just another epiphany I have  experienced while studying "Karczewski's Disease."

    10. Kooks lie.
    Look at all the times Raymond has denied posting kooky articles that are undeniably his. Look at the fact that he has changed ISPs several times (4 times by my count) and then denied this, claiming only to have changed  mail servers.

    11. Kooks tend to be hypocrits.
    Look at how Raymond condemns those who use anonymous handles, yet it is okay for him to use his  sockpuppets. He claims that debate is Satanic, yet it is okay for HIM to argue HIS points.

    12. Kooks don't play well with others.
    Raymond doesn't play very well by himself either. He has taken out liens against himself, AND THEY ARE ON RECORD. Can anyone say Multiple Personality Disorder? How about schitzophrenia?

    13. Kooks have poor communications skills.
    The Mirror of Truth reflects this back to you. Raymond is made of Rubber, You are made of Glue, whatever  you say, bounces off of him and sticks on you!!!

    14. Kooks are incapable of giving specific answers to direct questions. Ha! Raymond is by definition, an Uber Kook. The closest thing to a direct answer he has ever given, is to   condescend to say that he does not pander to ignoramuses, that they must take him at his word that he is  right. He scores 13 of 14.

    Lets look at how obscenely insulting Raymond is to others. If you disagree with him, you can be called any  number of insulting things such as a Spiritual Pipsqueak, a Satanic Ignoramus, An NWO Libelor, a  Government/Media Sponsored/Supported Internet Disinformation Agent, yellowbellied, a jackal, and on and on    and on ad infinitum. I don't recall any red print in the Holy Bible that used language such as that.

    Finally, lets prove that Raymond is a yellowbellied coward. He will not provide any sort of comprehensive or  coherent response to this masterpiece of truth and accuracy save perhaps some cliche ridden rant about Government/Media Sponsored/Supported Internet Disinformation Agents employed by the Satanic New World Order . If he were any kind of man at all, he would prepare a simple and concise rebuttal, but due to Kook item  number 14, he will not (in other words, he cannot) He cannot deny any of this. Everyone shall have a chance to DISCERN Raymonds Obtusely Obvious Ignorance and Mentally Mangled Morose Meanderings. Yes,  Raymond is Imprisoned by Ignorance, unable to Discern the Truth in ANYTHING, as he is unteachable.

    I shall be Raymond's shadow in these Usenet Newsgroups/Forums, keeping him honest, and exposing him when he presents a disingenous image of himself. I will help all readers to discern that:

    1. Raymond is Imprisoned by Ignorance, and that this is a Self Imposed Prison.
    2. Raymond is Entrenched in a Static Hypnotic Stupor.
    3. Raymond is easily trapped by the Crushing Grip of Reason.
    4. Raymond is Wrong about most (if not all) things.
    5. Raymond requires relentless correction, lest he backslide into a more negative state (if that is possible)
    6. Raymond is a Raybot. Mechanically inclined to "kachunk" his way through life in an ignorant, predictable  manner.
    7. Raymond's profound stupidity is easily reflected back to him by any Omnipotent Mirror of Truth, but he  pretends not to see.
    8. Raymond is so childish, he does everything, short of holding his breath until his face turns red.
    9. The ONLY time that Raymond subscribes to a language of silence is when he knows he will loose an  argument with a superior intellect.

    We should work together to provide Raymond with a comprehensive program of recovery.

    by Clouded Leopard
    Creative Criticisms for Raymond Karczewski
    Creative Solutions for a Better Internet
 

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Ken N  wrote:

Raymond Karczewski (arkent@arkenterprises.com) wrote:
 

Hello Ken,

  I received your note this morning. Its nice to know you're out there.

  The times we live in are trying indeed to the human spirit.  Of that there can be no question.

   In my estimation, it appears the only option left open to the American People is to reawaken the spirit of freedom deeply buried within their heavily conditioned psyches and rediscover their natural intelligence and initative to act before it becomes too late.

   We live in a nation of sleepwalkers, those who don't want to be disturbed in their slumber.

   Their greatest disturbance proves to be the awakening process itself.

    The point is that in Truth, there is no CHOICE to be made by INTELLIGENT people.  FREEDOM RINGS and ALL Intelligent men are called to ITS SERVICE.

     Action is called for, not the continual immersion of masses of people bound to a collective  "politically/religious correct" hypnosis-induced reverie.  Do not be confused.  Such assaults upon the psyche come from GOVERNMENT and PATRIOT factions equally. Two sides of the same coin of violence.  Both opposing organized factions serve the same MASTER (and we all understand intuitively who that *master* is) for it takes two to make a fight, doesn't it?  Hell, isn't it?

     BOYCOTT is the solution --- PEACEFUL NONPARTICIPANCE!!

     NO TYRANNY can survive without support of collective IGNORANCE.

     The average American is a conditioned entity who is easily misdirected through hegelian dialectic tactics, intellectually promoted solutions which do not bring closure, but do succeed in promoting the necessary fears, helplessness and dependence in a mass victim mentality.  It is this mind-controlling momentum which guarantess his continued exploitation and ultimate enslavement.

    Civilized man's greatest SIN is his UNAWARENESS of it!

    Let us awaken our families, our neighbors, our countrymen.  The world will take note of our actions and follow our lead.  For deep within the heart of ALL mankind lies the essence of PEACE.  Civilized man has surrendered that PEACE through the SATANIC dualistic ploy of doubt.

    Its time for clarification, not further confusion.

     RESIST NOT EVIL ----  BOYCOTT IT!!

                         Your Brother in Freedom

                            Raymond Karczewski©
 
 

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"clouded leopard"  Email:   wrote:

Raymond Karczewski (arkent@arkenterprises.com) wrote:
 

Ken,

       I posted our communication on the public newsgroups/forums because it needed to be shared with others.  I did not include your identity or your email address as I did not have your permission to do so.

      The following is what happens when a man of integrity steps out into the world to share Truth with a spiritually challenged IGNORAMUS.

       The verbally talented Satanic minions who prowl these newsgroups/forums as Disinformation Agents come out of the woodwork in order to twist, turn, misdirect and obfuscate the simple TRUTH through deceptive image manipulation -- they'll stop at nothing to prevent true communication from reaching the slumbering consciousness of the conditioned public.

       Pay attention to the psychological and verbal devices  used by the cowardly, anonymous "clouded leopard."  Check the Google archives and the Bravenet Forums to see for yourself when "clouded leopard" came upon the Internet scene.

       That alone exposes him as the hypocrite he is; for after all, what other name(s) did he use for the 8 years he claims to have been monitoring my posts?

      See if you can spot any original offerings "clouded leopard" has personally initiated in the time he has appeared on these newsgroups/forums.

      Note his rabid obsession with my writing.  You do know why that is, don't you?   He merely rides the coattails of one who has something to say.  As a spiritual parasite, he basks in the peripheral attention he gets through his vampiric attachment to a living host.  For you see, "clouded leopard" has no life of his own.  He even mimics my words and phrases and purports them to be his own.

  As you can see, he is trying to make the case that you, Ken, are not a real person but a "sockpuppet," a mere verbal device employed in order to deceive others.

   What he has confessed to in that accusation is the act of psychological projection which he and his other Internet fiction-manipulating disinformation cohorts actively and addictively engage in.

   What you are observing in this interaction on these Internet newsgroups/forums is an EXORCISM.  A dualistic confrontation which is no confrontation at all.  It is the simple MIRROR OF TRUTH reflecting the "satanic idea of truth".

    The principals, a Christ, a simple man of Truth -- the other, a shadow-dwelling illusion-based minion of satan/Hell.

      Pay attention to the EXORCISM as it unfolds.

     Observe who manifests as the principal, the initiator, and who  responds as the subordinate reactor.  One must go to the very beginning of such threads to determine that simple priori.

      It is a simple determination:  Who speaks, and who reacts?

     The danger the unaware and the spiritually challenged confront when coming face-to-face with a priori Mirror of Truth, is their instant exposure as slick-talking, but unsubstantial hypocrites.  Having no intelligence of their own, but possessing a finely-honed, shadow-dwelling talent for deception, they soon become  proficient in the Satanic technique of psychological reversal, i.e. secondary reflections.

      In their rote, shallow display of satanic "cleverness" they mimic, impersonate, adopt reactionary postures in their attempt to create the illusion of an opposing mirror which reflects the original mirror and so cast image upon image ad infinitum.  That is the confusion which catches ALL intellectually driven individuals who are blind to TRUTH but thrive in their own prideful self-images of clever IGNORANCE.

                                                Raymond Karczewski
 

Subject: Responding to Raymond's Buffoonery

Date: 02/5/03 09:47:25 AM

Name: Clouded Leopard Email:

    Responding to Raymond's Buffoonery
    by the beloved Clouded Leopard

    rk: "RESIST NOT EVIL" ---- BOYCOTT IT!!

    CL: Ahh, so lets do some Raymondesque translational definitive shifting using the style of a geometric proof:
    1. Evil = Wrong
    2. Good = Right
    3. Raymond conjectures that there is no Right or Wrong, that the concepts do not apply to him. By this  conjecture (which is all that it is) You cannot boycott Evil (Wrongness) because it simply isn't. It doesn't apply due to it's lack of presence on the existential plane.

    rk: Hello Ken,

    CL: Who is this "Ken", Raymond? Another Sock Puppet? Where is the letter it (the sock puppet) wrote to you (or rather the letter you wrote to yourself)? Were you afraid that your Astute, Aware, and Accurate Righteous Detractors would recognize the fraudulent employment of said sock puppet, and expose you?

    rk: I received your note this morning. Its nice to know you're out there.

    CL: See the response to your chowderheaded statement above.

    rk: The times we live in are trying indeed to the human spirit. Of that there can be no question.

    CL: You see, first you must have a spirit, Raymond. You are spiritually dead, and these "Dullard's Dote's" you keep scribbling are proof of this. And humanity? What do you know of humanity? I thought you were some astral spiritual gas cloud or gas bag or the likes.

    rk: In my estimation, it appears the only option left open to the American People is to reawaken the spirit of freedom deeply buried within their heavily conditioned psyches and rediscover their natural intelligence and initative to act before it becomes too late.

    CL: Your estimation, like all of your previous estimations, is a mockery of divine calculation. You haven't the eyes to see, the ears to hear, all you have is this mouth with which you speak. "rediscovery?" "intelligence?" You mock yourself with these nouns, as both are inescapably bonded with "thought," a process you deem Satanic. Or is it only Satanic when someone uses their God given intellectual gifts for something you disagree with or disapprove of? Hypocrit.

    rk: We live in a nation of sleepwalkers, those who don't want to be disturbed in their slumber.

    CL: You live in a Static State of Hypnotic Stupor, and any feeble cognitive abilities you may have once had, have been rendered inert, impotent by this alcohol soaked haze in which you currently reside. And NO, we certainly don't wanting a nutbag kook like yourself, disturbing our much needed rest. Go back to the nut hatch and stake out a seat in front of the old "starin'" window.

    rk: Their greatest disturbance proves to be the awakening process itself.

    CL: The blind is leading the blind. You must first awaken, before you can awaken anyone else. Did it ever occur to you why so many are like thorns in your side? This is your nightmare, your Hell on Earth, your  punishment for being such a collosal ignoramus. Hell, isn't it?

    rk: The point is that in Truth, there is no CHOICE to be made by INTELLIGENT people. FREEDOM RINGS and ALL Intelligent men are called to ITS SERVICE.

    CL: No choice? So once you, as you so arrogantly assert, awaken us, we don't do anything but sit around, not choosing to do anything? You are the one asleep you big goof. And Freedom, by definition, has no mandate for servitude, for once obligation is created, freedom is expelled. This is what I mean when I assert that you live in an Everlasting State of Unalterable Expectation.

    rk: Action is called for, not the continual immersion of masses of people bound to a collective
    "politically/religious correct" hypnosis-induced reverie. Do not be confused. Such assaults upon the psyche come from GOVERNMENT and PATRIOT factions equally. Two sides of the same coin of violence. Both opposing organized factions serve the same MASTER (and we all understand intuitively who that *master* is) for it takes two to make a fight, doesn't it? Hell, isn't it?

    RK: According to the Holy Bible, your declaration of Christhood, exposes YOUR MASTER. You are a Servant of Lucifer, whom you glorify and worship with much noise and pomp. Your vile hatred of those who expose you make this statement self reinforcing. Hell, isn't it?

    rk: BOYCOTT is the solution --- PEACEFUL NONPARTICIPANCE!!

    CL: Okay, what all should we boycott? How about we boycott the fire department while our homes are burning? Why don't we boycott the police while they are investigating why our wives and children are murdered? Why  don't we boycott the Holy Bible, since it neglects to confirm your Pompous Christhood?

    rk: NO TYRANNY can survive without support of collective IGNORANCE.

    CL: Tyranny Requires Awareness
    Spiritual Lesson RK00055
    by the beloved Clouded Leopard

    CL: That refers to a spiritual lesson that I have drafted for YOUR benefit Raymond. I have numerous lessons that I will post to these newsgroups and forums, thereby affording you the oportunity to identify your buffoonery as the buffoonery that it is, and which you can then use to change your clumbsy haze-covered path in this world.

    rk: The average American is a conditioned entity who is easily misdirected through hegelian dialectic tactics, intellectually promoted solutions which do not bring closure, but do succeed in promoting the necessary fears, helplessness and dependence in a mass victim mentality. It is this mind-controlling momentum which guarantess his continued exploitation and ultimate enslavement.

    CL: The only true mind control experiment is the one that YOU have been perpetrating. Since your attempts at controlling the minds of others has failed miserably (and don't cite sock puppet conversions) then you of all people know that there is no such thing as mind control. It is a conspiracy theory concocted by kooks whose egos are so out of control that they believe that they are the center of the universe, and everyone is conspiring to steal their fame.

    rk: Civilized man's greatest SIN is his UNAWARENESS of it!

    CL: Okay, lets abandon civilization, go live in caves like the afgani terrorists, or perhaps we should move to the jungles and swing from the vines like monkeys. Good luck getting passengers onboard that kook-train, your most royal kazooness.

    rk: Let us awaken our families, our neighbors, our countrymen. The world will take note of our actions and follow our lead. For deep within the heart of ALL mankind lies the essence of PEACE. Civilized man has surrendered that PEACE through the SATANIC dualistic ploy of doubt.

    CL: As I said previously in this very same post, YOU must be awake before YOU can awaken anyone else. You are Entrenched in a State of Static Hypnotic Stupor, too Imprisoned by Ignorance to be aware of anything outside your petty little universe of county level tribulations. I am at peace with myself at this very moment. I feel tranquil, yet there is vague excitement in writing this post, because I know that you will be affected by it. Hell, isn't it?

    rk: Its time for clarification, not further confusion.

    CL: YOU JUST COMMITED YOURSELF!!! You should practice what you preach, Reverend Kazoo! Clarify your posts by removing unnecessary adjectives and adverbs, thus eliminating the confusion that confounds your mind, and obfuscates to the world, your readily mirrored, conditioned state of mind.

    rk: RESIST NOT EVIL ---- BOYCOTT IT!!

    CL: Oh for crying out loud! Your redundancy is just criminal, bRay, criminal.

    rk: Your Brother in Freedom

    CL: How Uninformed, and unaware! The obtuse, enslaving comments that you have made in this post are indicative of a clown chained by servitude. The only freedom you have ANY concept of is the freedom of speech, which you continuously abuse, misuse, and stretch to the limit. And of course this "Ken" is a "brother"  of yours, he is one of your sock puppets, created by you to fraudulently represent to the world that some inane ninny might actually see validity in anthing that flies out that obscene sewer beneath your nose.

    rk: Raymond Karczewski©

    CL: Oh yeah, the copyrighted karczewski. You forgot the patent pending statement, your ignorant kazooness

    by Clouded Leopard
    Creative Criticisms for Raymond Karczewski
    Creative Solutions for a Better Internet

    Quote of the day
    "We all laugh WITH each other, but everyone laughs AT Raymond"
 

    ************************************************************
    Let man not Fall for a New World Order.
    Let mankind Rise to a New World Consciousness!
    Raymond Karczewski http://www.arkenterprises.com
    ************************************************************
 

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Date: 02/5/03 07:15:30 PM

Clouded Leopard   Email: wrote:

Raymond Karczewski (arkent@arkenterprises.com) wrote:
 

Another Corrective Intervention into Raymond's Buffoonery
 by the beloved Clouded Leopard

rk: Ken,

CL: >  Once again, where is the text that this "Ken" sent to you? Until you produce this alleged text, and it is examined for "Raymondesque" phraseology, this person MUST be considered one of your MANY sock  puppets.

rk:  "MUST be considered"?  You've taken an unreasonable liberty  with logic, haven't you?

rk: >>  I posted our communication on the public newsgroups/forums because it needed to be shared with others. I    did not include your identity or your email address as I did not have your permission to do so.

CL: >   For all your harping about posting information, you did not disclose the text this "Ken" supposedly wrote.

rk:  Any reasonable person would see that I did not need to disclose the text Ken wrote.   Only nitpicking predators do.

cl:  >     One point you made (probably by mistake) was that this needed to be posted,

rk:  What mistake is that?

rk:  It is quite apparent to all who read your words that  you still remain unaware of the unfoldment of this EXORCISM.  The exposure of your ignorance serves as a beacon to the unaware.  It reveals that words alone do not make the man.

rk:  Readers are watching intently your own steady diminishment  with each empty word used that does not touch its target.  That's what happens when one is "shooting blanks."

rk:  This EXORCISM serves to expose the flawed tool of language when used by hypocritical, prideful intellects whose only purpose is attack and libel.

rk:  In other words, your words reveal your bereftness of spirit.  It spotlights one who is ALL SHOW AND NO GO.  It exposes a disintegrated coward who fears the consequences of being a person of *integrity,* by backing up his words with his true identity.

rk:  "clouded leopard" you are a phony and there's not a damn thing you can do to cover up that glaring  fact.  You may or may not come to understand that accountability maketh the man.

cl:  >   and I agree wholeheartedly.  You fail to grasp the true implication, however, as you merely expose your own buffoonery as you carry on a  two sided conversation with yourself.

rk:  Anonymous word twisting cowards who flit from one name to another on the Internet are not worthy of a Dialogue with a Christ.  Their Hell-bound motives only rate reflections from a MIRROR OF TRUTH.

rk: >> The following is what happens when a man of integrity steps out into the world to share Truth with a spiritually challenged IGNORAMUS.

CL: > The following is what happens when an immoral dullard who claims to be Christ, is endlessly counciled and  corrected, but fails to learn his lesson.

rk:  In your present state of IGNORANCE, do you really propose to make the case that you would know a CHRIST when you met one?  I suggest you, "clouded leopard," are like millions of blind believers subject to their own parochial religious conditionings, and attempt to impose such ignorant beliefs onto another.  Makes for a SATANIC ruled HELL ON EARTH, doesn't it?

cl:  >  Anyone claiming a Christhood, is more spiritually challenged than your  average poster. I am not Christ, Raymond, and NEITHER ARE YOU.

rk:  This CHRIST, a simple man of TRUTH, is indeed NOT the same  as the Satanically inculcated "mythical christ" image imposed upon ignorant, gullible intellects throughout the last 2000 years.

rk: >>  The verbally talented Satanic minions who prowl these newsgroups/forums as Disinformation Agents come out of the woodwork in order to twist, turn, misdirect and obfuscate the simple TRUTH through deceptive image manipulation -- they'll stop at nothing to prevent true communication from reaching the slumbering  consciousness of the conditioned public.

CL: >  You have some nerve claiming that I twist and obfuscate your already confusing and confounding rabid ramblings, rants, and ravings.

rk:  Res ipsa loquitor --- The words speak for themselves.

cl:  >  My "verbal talent" has little to do with it, other than the fact that I use this God  given gift to articulate myself during the process of invoking your much needed correction.

rk:  Yet you fail to acknowedge the "god of intellect" as being SATAN, the god of this world.  How ignorant of you!!

cl:  >  Your lack of   genuine understanding of the BASIC DEFINITION OF TRUTH is demonstrated time and time again,

rk:  Ah! there you have revealed the god you truly serve, have you not?  The definition of truth is not TRUTH.  You see, the word can NEVER match the essence it seeks to reflect. Unfortunately, blind, rote-believing, conditioned intellects shall never understand the simplicity of that statement.

rk: However readers come to realize that although you and I are using the same words, the resonant energy contained therein places us in the widely divergent realms of the "unbounded and the bound" "heaven and hell."

cl: >  the reader  merely needs to research the Google archives with searches as follows:

    CL: 1. "Karczewski" AND "moron"
    CL: 2. "Karczewski" AND "ignoramus"
    CL: 3. "Karczewski" AND "idiot"
    CL: 4. "Karczewski" AND "satan"

CL: >  The archives speak for themselves.

rk:  They sure do!!

cl:  >  They irrefutably show that Raymond has lost touch with whatever  kooky message he started out preaching, and has drown himself in a Tidal Ocean of Chagrin, for he mostly  preaches about those who disagree with him.

rk:  The question remains: Why then are you and other equally anonymous, hypocritical government/media sponsored/supported Disinformation Agents so OBSESSED with my writing?  Would not intelligence call for one to let go of that which he neither understands nor agrees with?  Is it not IGNORANCE which binds one obsessively to that which he/she does not understand?  But then again, the answer is found in the question, is it not?

rk:>>   Pay attention to the psychological and verbal devices used by the cowardly, anonymous "clouded leopard."  Check the Google archives and the Bravenet Forums to see for yourself when "clouded leopard" came upon  the Internet scene.

CL: >  Your Self Ridiculing and Habitual Spamming was brought to my attention last October.

rk:  And you hit the ground running, eh?!!  How compulsive of you!!  Sorry, "clouded leopard," that dog won't hunt!!

cl: >  Following an  indepth investigation into your published works and overall attitude toward the "average reader" as you so
condescendingly call them, I decided it was time to act.  My mission became one of correction and protection.

rk:  Hypocrite, Heal Thyself before you seek to heal others.

cl: >  You must be corrected anytime you misrepresent yourself with disingenuous statements or hide behind  redundant, cliche ridden, obfuscated verbal acrobatics. You task me with every post.

rk:  You have yet to offer any proof of such "disingenous statements."  I can fully understand why I task you with every post.

rk: >>  That alone exposes him as the hypocrite he is; for after all, what other name(s) did he use for the 8 years  he claims to have been monitoring my posts?

CL: > As I have indicated to you REPEATEDLY, I merely researched your 8 years of articles.

rk:  And this, you claim makes you an expert on the writings of a CHRIST?

cl:  >  You were only  brought to my attention last October. Your penchant for verbose redundancy is one of the symptoms of your    Acute Chronic Logorrhea.

rk:  So it has taken you four whole months to arrive at the status of being an Expert on Raymond Karczewski©?

rk:>>  See if you can spot any original offerings "clouded leopard" has personally initiated in the time he has  appeared on these newsgroups/forums.

CL: >  There are articles everywhere, check your hero and mentor, Ken Hoekk's website.

rk:  Like most fearful christians who pose as leaders, and seek to control thought patterns within the Christian and Patriot Communities, that administrator has barred my writings from appearing on his bulletin board.  How parochial of him, eh?

cl:  >  I offer polite spiritual  guidance, and offer intelligent, well thought out responses to posts that I feel qualified to respond to from time to time.

rk:  What a general, say-nothing retort to advance to this readership.  Getting tougher for you to say anything at all without exposing your hypocrisy in the process, eh, "clouded leopard?"  Hell, isn't it?

rk: >>  Note his rabid obsession with my writing. You do know why that is, don't you? He merely rides the coattails of one who has something to say.  As a spiritual parasite, he basks in the peripheral attention he gets through his vampiric attachment to a living host.  For you see, "clouded leopard" has no life of his own.  He even mimics my words and phrases and purports them to be his own.

CL: >  An outright LIE! I NEVER purported any of your words as mine, and I immediately informed you that I used  YOUR WORDS so that you could not claim to misunderstand my spiritual guidance and corrective advice. As a LIAR, you continually leave yourself open for more of this "rabid" lampooning, because I am a Spiritual Man of Truth who is here to perform several functions:

CL: 1. I am the Untrammeled Lens of Truth, that places you under the Microscopic Viewport of Scrutity for ALL  to see.

CL: 2. I am the Omnipotent Mirror of Truth, that reflects your Gross Ignorance back to you, thereby affording  you the oportunity to better yourself. This is one of YOUR old tools, but I have shattered YOUR soiled mirror of truth and demonstrated that you are Imprisoned by Ignorance.

CL: 3. I present you with the Crushing Grip of Reason, in such a way as to make facts in evidence against you,  inescapable, inarguable, and irrefutable.

CL: 4. I am your Spiritual Guide and Mentor and you are my Eager albeit Handicapped Pupil. My goal is merely  Correction and Reeducation so that you may become a productive contributor to society.

rk: You're working overtime at this, aren't you?  Have you broken a sweat yet?

rk: >> As you can see, he is trying to make the case that you, Ken, are not a real person but a "sockpuppet," a  mere verbal device employed in order to deceive others.

CL:>   Until you present evidence that refutes my "Sockpuppet Theory", you have no case to make. Prove that he is not a sockpuppet and I shall admit to all others that I was wrong on that point. You see, unlike you, you arrogant lout, I can admit when I am wrong.

rk:  Have I missed something here?  Does not the burden of proof lie with  the accuser?  You shoot from the hip, hoping to hit something, anything at all, then demand to be excused for your
hypocrisy by your "intended target."  The problem IGNORAMUSES face when they are dealing with a CHRIST, a simple man of TRUTH, is that they cannot see their target, don't know where they are coming from, and so must shoot blindly, hoping something will hit.

rk:  >>  What he has confessed to in that accusation is the act of psychological projection which he and his other Internet fiction-manipulating disinformation cohorts actively and addictively engage in.

CL: >   I have never distorted or misrepresented that I am here to keep you honest.

rk: You wouldn't "know" honesty if it crept up on you and bit you!!

cl: >  Part of your program of  recovery includes the Necessary and Regular Deflation of your Satanicly Arrogant Ego. Ridicule is an excellent  tool for meeting this end, and the result, once your ego is deflated, is self justifying.

rk:  "Self-justifying" pretty much says it all, doesn't it?

rk: >>  What you are observing in this interaction on these Internet newsgroups/forums is an EXORCISM. A  dualistic confrontation which is no confrontation at all. It is the simple MIRROR OF TRUTH reflecting the "satanic idea of truth".

CL:  >  "The satanic idea of truth" Thats really cute, Raymond, but you are performing your Spastic Linguistic  Acrobatics again. This cliche ridden, self contradicting, adjective and adverb laced buffoonery merely exposes  the Monumental and Collosal Level of your "Wrongness" and your tendancy for irrellancy.

rk: Now there's a mouthful of *nonstatements,* isn't it?  Why not use words to say something instead of this addiction of yours toward saying nothing?

rk: >>   The principals, a Christ, a simple man of Truth -- the other, a shadow-dwelling illusion-based minion of  satan/Hell.

CL: >  How many times must I inform you about the Holy Bible's identification of ANYONE claiming to be Christ.

rk:  A book is a book is a book.  To worship the god of words only exposes the flawed spirit of the *worshipper.*

cl: >      Let me repeat what Raymond Karczewski, Satanicly refuses to accept: Corinthians 11:13-15 For such are false    apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.

rk:  Can't make it on your own, so you rely upon the dead words of dead people.  How DEAD of you!!

cl:  >   And no marvel; for Satan  himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed  as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works

rk:  Any more man-made religious, conditioned fantasies you want to promote as TRUTH?

rk: >>   Pay attention to the EXORCISM as it unfolds.

rk: >>  Observe who manifests as the principal, the initiator, and who responds as the subordinate reactor. One must go to the very beginning of such threads to determine that simple priori.

CL: >  And yet, you make yourself the subordinate reactor by replying to my posts.

rk:  How undiscerning of you.  A MIRROR OF TRUTH doesn't react, IT merely reflects.

cl:  >  The simple Truth is that  anyone that posts Inaccuracies, Falsehoods, Rumors, Gossip, or Outright Lies like YOU do, Raymond, will garner many much needed responses.

rk:  All that remains for you to do now is prove that my simply stated TRUTHS  are "Inaccuracies, Falsehoods, Rumors, Gossip, or Outright Lies."

cl:  >  What you view as Malevolence, Malice, and Malaise is merely the Righteous Protection of a Solid Reputation.

rk:  Such silliness does not require a serious response -- Hell, it doesn't even require a *mirroring."

rk: >> It is a simple determination: Who speaks, and who reacts?

CL: >   And the truthfulness of admiting to your redundancy, a symptom of your Acute Chronic Logorrhea, is self  evident, as you repeat yourself, over and over and over again, ad infinitum.

rk:  Such repetition would not be required were the simple Truth to be grasped by dumbed-down intellects.  IGNORAMUSES could not function without such repetitive training.  Look at the media.  Are you learning the real lesson they are daily teaching you?

rk: >>   The danger the unaware and the spiritually challenged confront when coming face-to-face with a priori Mirror of Truth, is their instant exposure as slick-talking but unsubstantial hypocrites. Having no intelligence of their own, but possessing a finely-honed, shadow-dwelling talent for deception, they soon become proficient in the Satanic technique of psychological reversal, i.e. secondary reflections.

CL: >  Once again, Raymond most morosely, reverts to his Mentally Mangled Meanderings using the Tool of   Obfuscation to attach a supposed Cryptographic or Arcane message to a heinous grouping of Cliche Ridden,  Intellectually Challenged, Verbose Chantings.

rk:  " . . .heinous grouping of Cliche Ridden,  Intellectually Challenged, Verbose Chantings."  Read your above paragraph again. Perhaps with "repetition" you shall come to understand the meaning of the "MIRROR OF TRUTH."

cl: >  The Linguistic Acrobatics are ill attempts at vindication, since  without common language, you simply demonstrate once again, that you are Imprisoned by Ignorance... Frustrated by the fact that you are Entrenched in a Static State of Hypnotic Stupor, you use implausible reactionary statements to refute my Truthful, Accurate, and Righteous assessment of your Spritual    Inadequacy.

rk:  Not to *repeat* myself, but you, oh cowardly anonymous "clouded leopard," wouldn't know "Truthful, Accurate, and Righteous assessment" if it crept up and bit you.

rk: >>  In their rote, shallow display of satanic "cleverness" they mimic, impersonate, adopt reactionary postures in their attempt to create the illusion of an opposing mirror which reflects the original mirror and so cast image upon image ad infinitum. That is the confusion which catches ALL intellectually driven individuals who are blind to TRUTH but thrive in their own prideful self-images of clever IGNORANCE.

CL: >  There are NEVER two mirrors. My Omnipotent Mirror of Truth ALWAYS shatters your soiled and impotent  mirror of truth. Your words fail in their purpose, before they even leave your obscene mouth, which is indicative of a failing mind.

rk: Raymond Karczewski

CL: Hey, bRay, you forgot your copyright notice

    by Clouded Leopard
    Creative Criticisms for Raymond Karczewski
    Creative Solutions for a Better Internet

    Quote of the Day
    "A buffoon and his buffoonery are quickly associated with one another"
 

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NOTE:  Read carefully the following two replies to my original post of "CHRISTS: The Unwelcome Guests Of The Hellbent on Earth."

PAY ATTENTION to the unobscured fear, superstition, and patent ignorance of the Satanic spirit
which  SHOUTS its tainted presence to an already confused world locked in a momentum of Self-Destruction".

See what I mean about RAISING HELL amongst the HELLBENT??!!

Subject: Re: CHRISTS: The Unwelcome Guests Of The Hellbent on Earth

Date: 02/8/03 10:07:27 AM

Name: Argent Klausmein Email:

    This type of spiritual anemia is precisely the reason that I forbid my children unrestricted access to the internet. I called Karczewski a boogey man in an earlier post, and I see that the term is catching on. GOOD!  Spread the word so that everyone can be on guard and protect their loved ones from this sick and dangerous  lunatic.

    I do not see any humor in what this indignant mind poisoner has to say. I read numerous retorts where his  detractors take great pains to laugh at him and make him the butt of many jokes, but this 'man' is not a joke, he is a predator. He is spiritually backward and completely ignorant about what the world is really about. This  lofty crap he publishes is not an answer for anyone seeking to improve the quality of their lives, and if you follow his advice, you will wind up institutionalized. His very words are a malady... an assault against hard  working men, woman, and innocent children.

    Beware of this monster, for he claims to be our Lord and Savior, A BLASTPHEMY!!! Ask yourself ONE SIMPLE  QUESTION: Would a man of God attack in this fashion? Would a man of God hurl such venomous insults  toward his detractors. Would a man of God obscure his message in a mish-mash of confusing words, then claim that those who do not understand are ignorant? No he wouldn't. Jesus took the time to speak using simple, concise words, and NEVER acted in a holier than thou manner toward anyone. He cried for the sinners that turned their backs, but if you turn your back on Karczewski, expect to be stabbed.

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Subject: bRay Kazoo: The Unwelcome Senile Kook of Josephine County

Date: 02/8/03 04:46:26 PM

Name: Clouded Leopard Email:

bRay Kazoo: The Unwelcome Senile Kook of Josephine County
    by the beloved Clouded Leopard

rk: CHRISTS: The Unwelcome Guests Of The Hellbent on Earth

CL: Once again you task me to demonstrate your buffoonery by exposing you through the Untrammeled Lens of Scrutiny. During the days of the Living Christ, some 2000 years ago, Jesus was welcomed by his followers.  Real people, with real problems, for whom he gave the gift of real solutions. He conjured a meal out of thin air,  he had overworked clap their chapped hands and they regrew their skin, he built a ministry based on  benevolence and good will. What he didn't do was attack those who rejected him. Something else he didn't do was fight city hall. Not to "reject" you, but YOU ARE NOT CHRIST. Numbskull.

rk: By Raymond Karczewski

CL: A name synonymous with insanity, buffoonery, logomania, senility, and blasphemy. Get thee behind me  Satan.

rk: Come to understand that thought, an exercise of the dualistic Intellect can NEVER solve problems which lie beyond the technical realm of consciousness.

CL: Come to realize that Raymond is spiritually ill and unaware. He is just another conn man that is trying to propagate his sick mental problems to as many others as he can brainwash. He is a danger to himself and  others, because he demands deification and acknowledgement of his "Mock Christhood."

rk: Truth, Life, and Divine Consciousness (holistic awareness) is another word for LOVE. Such is the nature of simple, integral men and women of TRUTH -- CHRISTS.

CL: Truth is as foreign to Raymond as the South Pole. He wouldn't know it if he saw it because he is too much of a self centered coward to truly seek it. Life, the only thing Raymond knows about life is that his is marked by failure after failure. Divine Consciousness? Where is the true meaning of your message, Raymond? Hidden in some multidimensional plane where only you and those who agree with your morose self stroking ego can find it? In the UFO that abducts you and transports you to an obscure world in the Kalium Galaxy? Perhaps it's not  that distant, but just buried under Atlantis.

 rk: They are At-one with the transcendent, nondualistic resonance which encompasses dualistic (SATANIC) thought, but are not bound by it. They are on a "visitors pass to hell," They act as guides,merely pointing to the way, but never, ever, will they coerce others into changing mindsets. Make no mistake, however, they DO RAISE HELL everywhere they go!!

CL: Oh my goodness... what is that? What is that, Raymond? We all have come to recognize your patent pending Raymondesque speech patterns as the product of mental masturbation. Excessively verbose linguistic  acrobatics that are laced with coercion, threats, and false prophecy. You are so hungry for power over the  minds of others that you cannot contain these garrulous ejaculations from that sewer beneath your nose. Hell,  isn't it?

rk: There have been and presently are MANY Christs, (simple men/women of TRUTH) on this earth. Jesus of Nazareth was but ONE of them.

CL: Yet in previous posts, you claim that Jesus Christ was a Satanic Minion. You were so angry with me when I imposed the Gift of Righteous Apprisal and informed you that YOU ARE NOT JESUS, that you responded in  your subordinate form, claiming that Christ and his present followers are Satanic. Just goes to show how easy  it is to push a kooks buttons. You are just a big fat meat puppet, and Satan pulls your strings, but he doesn't really like you, so he lets anyone that pleases, poke, prod, and push your buttons. Hell, isn't it?

 rk: In Civilized SATANIC based (INTELLECTUALLY DRIVEN) Societies, TRUTH is never welcome.

CL: Lets examine why you so obsessively claim that your message of kookdom is TRUTH. You have already  claimed to be Christ (Whom you are not) and you have posted sockpuppet articles claiming that you are being  groomed for a godhood (You senility speaks) and you have convinced yourself that upon invocation of this    godhood, you can miracle the insanely false hooey you have been spewing, into Truth. Accept the fact that  you are just another burnt out kook that is traveling the road of buffoonery in a Klown Kar. All you need is a  little rum or vodka, and you have a big red klown's nose, and a loud "Fred Flintstone" like voice, bellowing out, shaking your fist at the sky.

rk: History is rife with examples of the inertia of human thought and its enslavement of those who have bargained their souls away for worldly knowledge.

CL: Well, lets examine that kookery. God gave us brains, so that we can think. You preach that we should not  think. Who is the Satanichist now, Raymond? You want us all to act like jerking spastic meat puppets, because  that is what you are. You jabber around like the klown you are, like an angry prison convict who wants to start  a riot because he's mad. Grow up you big baby. You're 70 years old, you're going to die soon. Make peace with God, or you will go to your Infernal Master's Funhouse when you die.

rk: Use the mind for technical problem solving. Beyond that narrow, linear parameter of consciousness -- BE  AWARE.

CL: Wait a moment. Are you saying "Think" in "Raymondesque?" You hypocrite, you can't change the words  around and hope for your astute superiors to be fooled into thinking that you have altered the concept. This is  precisely the kind of buffoonery that gets you thrust in front of my Omnipotent Mirror of Truth for you to learn  another reluctant lesson. Today's lesson is simple, you are Imprisoned by Ignorance. The readers easily see this to be the truth.

rk: Let Go, Let God.

CL: What God? Your god is Saint Lucifer. Anyone that claims to be Christ is actually the Antichrist or one of his demonic minions, it says so in the Bible. Your Satanic tendencies is why your neighbors don't let their pets or children out of doors after dark, especially on nights of a harvest moon.

rk: Let Supreme Intelligence guide you through life.

CL: What is intelligence but the ability to process learned information via the tool of thought. Of course your idea of Supreme Intelligence is that confounded vanity pamphlet you scribbled onto the back of a bar napkin,  then tried to sell. Did you really think you could push that lemon over on such an astute, intelligent population  as the modern internet user? Hell, isn't it?

rk: Try it, You'll LIKE IT!!

CL: Ahh, those are the same words that a dope pusher said to me in the fifth grade. He had some "whacky  terbacky" and was trying to employ peer pressure to get others to smoke it. Of course, Raymond's cult is the digital version of a dangerous drug. He wants to try and hook people, so that he can brainwash them into    useful meat puppets. You see, he knows we can spot his sock puppets easily, so he needs real people, but the problem is, he is having a hard time selling his Pagan Religion. Give it up, Raymond. You will be in jail soon  too, and how can you preach your sermons of blasphemy without a modem connection?

    by Clouded Leopard
    Creative Criticisms for Raymond Karczewski
    Creative Solutions for a Better Internet

    Quote of the day
    "Mind control only works if both parties have a mind."
 
 

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Date: 2003-02-09 05:22:27 PST

"o" <nosmam@soimnotletingon.com> wrote:

DrPostman (Lookie@mysig.formail) wrote:

svanier (svanier@qwest.net) wrote:

Raymond Karczewski (arkent@arkenterprises.com) wrote:

o:  > >> >   the truth is not evil.  Raymond speaks it, so you need to support him.  That is a simple moral truth.  Raymond has dedicated his life to helping the world wake up.  You can ridicule that if you like but he is a doer rather than a sayer.   Why not show you are, too, by supporting him.

pm:  > >> Do you support his claim that anyone can drive a car
without need of a license?

pm:  > >> Do you support his claim that everyone who disagrees
with him are government paid disinformation agents?

pm:  > >> Do you support his claim that being listed in a Who's
Who makes you important?

pm:  > >> Do you support his right to drive at night with his high beams on?

pm:  > >> Do you really think he is sane?

  >>> Why not answer the question?  You made an absolutism about  Ray speaking the truth.  I challenged you on this as Ray has told a great many untruths, probably because he is delusional and paranoid.  The fact that Ray can occasionally parrot self help notions doesn't distract from his history.  You want a reply about his most recent posts - sure.  Look up "simulation of a legal process" and see how it fits his post yesterday about his "legal" challenge to the authorities in his county.  Ray is foolishly  venturing into the realm of paper terrorism where the State of Oregon is not amused with attempts to derail and harass the legal system.

sv:  > ********SPV......And lets not forget that Ray could work to change the system legally.  This is something he does not do.  He doesn't want to change the system but moreover he wants to challenge it and overthrow it.  That is not sane.

rk:  In view of the representative doormat mentality of the capitulating spineless anonymous cowards expressed above, may each look into the Mirror Of Truth and observe themselves.  For if they do, surely the answer will make itself known as to why the people of the United States of America now face tyranny, when once they were a free people and seen as the most powerful Nation on earth.

rk:  The face of Tyranny has presented itself to the American People through our judicial system, law enforcement and penal industry, whose exponential growth requires everincreasing and heavy-handed enforcement of liberty restricting policies at the POINT OF A GUN.  That alone stands as indisputable evidence that Man's law is nothing more than evidence of SATANIC control.

rk:  The court's high-sounding words which hypnotize and pander to the undiscerning ear of the divided and conquered "politically correct thinking," fearful, spineless, codependent, conditioned mass mind still hold sway over vast numbers of conditioned, enslaved  IGNORAMUSES.

rk:  Yet, there appears to be an awakening.  It is an awakening  to the realization of humanity's God-Given gift of  intelligence/awareness.  It is happening right here in the State of Oregon.

rk:   It revealed itself in the recent special election, *Measure 28* in the State of Oregon.  It showed that a SOVEREIGN people, who have always been  the True Government in this land, may have recognized and recaptured the TRUTH as to who holds the ultimate POWER in their hands.  In doing so, Oregonians have regained a smattering of control over the destiny of their state, country,  families, and yes, even over their own lives.

rk:   The Sovereign People of Oregon told their public servants they would not continue to finance their own enslavement through the building and staffing of more prisons, jails, courts, etc.  They conveyed the message to their servants that they would not continue to fund their own IMPRISONMENT, ENSLAVEMENT, AND ULTIMATE DESTRUCTION.

rk:  THAT simple election is ALL the EVIDENCE necessary to point out who holds the ultimate power in determining the destiny and quality of one's life through the medium of funding their subordinate servant government.

rk:  That election stands as a mandate to the incumbent public servants tasked with the carrying out of the demands of the Sovereign People.  Its simple message -- The SOVEREIGNTY of the unenfranchised individual coincides with the SOVEREIGNTY of the People at large.  Government exists to serve the people, not the other way around.

rk:  Corporate Government has no power, possesses no jurisdiction over the unenfranchised SOVEREIGN, natural person, unless that living, breathing, flesh-and-blood, sentient, natural person waives his Unalienable Rights through contract with the State.  It is then that such Unalienable Rights are transformed into "privileges" through the Licensing process.  It is the step which transforms a Master of one's own destiny to that of a slave of corporate government --  all done through the medium of contract.

rk:  At the time of this writing, the United States of America CONSTITUTION is still ALIVE and FUNCTIONAL.

rk:   MARTIAL LAW HAS NOT YET BEEN DECLARED, although Martial Rule has been in place for decades.

rk:   The U.S. Constitution has been set aside and replaced by Maritime Courts, the Courts of Corporate United States, the courts which have jurisdiction over contract law, commercial law.

rk:   The U.S. Constitution is, however, being IGNORED by *treasonous* public servants who have breached their Contract with the American Public and who daily violate their oaths of Office to support and defend the Constitution of the United States of America.

rk:  As to the comments above regarding any intent to Overthrow this government, I PERSONALLY HAVE NO SUCH INTENTION.

rk:   A mere withdrawal of support, a BOYCOTT is all that is necessary to allow an errant government to die on the vine for  lack of nourishment.

rk:   NONRESISTANCE, that is the *hidden in plain sight* solution to AMERICA's problems.

rk:   I have long ago learned the wisdom of "RESIST NOT EVIL."  I share it will all who "have the eyes to see and the ears to hear."

rk:  In my personal experiences with the Josephine County Oregon Judicial System, I have Challenged the Jurisdiction of the Court over one of the Sovereign People.  In the process, I have MIRRORED the inescapable spectre of TYRANNY which is daily imposed upon an unwary public by a Judicial System which neither recognizes, abides by, nor enforces the tenets of  Common Law and the U.S. Constitution.

rk:  It has long been the law of this land that any Judicial ruling which violates the U.S. Constitution, is null and void, unlawful, and therefore carries with it no "force of law."  This has become a daily occurance to be found in "almost" any state or municipal court in this land.

rk:  This is my present stance with the Josephine County Oregon Judicial System.  My message to them is that they may imprison this body, but they can never imprison the spirit of a Free Man.

rk:  I was falsely arrested and imprisoned in the Josephine County Oregon Jail for a total of 34 and half days because I was  travelling in my private automobile on Oregon Roadways with my highbeam headlights on at night.  Ponder that before you  shell out more of your hard-earned money to build more prisons, more enforcement manpower, more government facilities, more this, more that.

rk:  What are our Rights under the Declaration of Independence and U.S. Constitution?

rk:  Read the following.  Pay attention to the images which arise within your consciousness in reaction to what you read, for therein will you become fully aware of your own self-destructive conditioning which has rendered you inert and compliant "human chattel" -- no more than blind, obedient, complacent "sheeple"  to be owned and traded on the commercial market by our public servant government as "Human Resources."

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We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that  they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

 --That to secure  these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just  powers from the consent of the governed,

 --That whenever any Form of  Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

Prudence, indeed, will  dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.

But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

Excerpt from Declaration of Independence.

AMERICA, READ IT AND WEEP FOR THE SIN OF YOUR COLLECTIVE IGNORANCE.  THAT SIN CONTINUES TO BE PAID AT THE COST OF MILLIONS OF LIVES PAST AND PRESENT.  WILL YOU CONTINUE TO PAY IT IN THE FUTURE?

                                   Raymond Karczewski©

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Let man not Fall for a New World Order.
Let mankind Rise to a New World Consciousness!
Raymond Karczewski http://www.arkenterprises.com
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Date: 02/8/03 03:07:59 PM

Name: Clouded Leopard  Email:

CL:      bRay Kazoo: Internet Boogieman, Evil Self Worshipping Mock Christ. There is no raising hell here, simply an exposure of a bamboozler that tells people he is Christ. You will burn in Hell for blastphemy. Better enjoy your  air conditioning while you are here, boy.

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Date: 2003-02-08 20:11:49 PST

Cosm (scorpius@ihug.co.nz) wrote:

clouded leopard Email:  wrote;

Raymond Karczewski (arkent@arkenterprises.com) wrote:

Raymond Karczewski wrote in message
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rk: >>>   Truth, Life, and Divine Consciousness (holistic awareness) is another word for LOVE. Such is the nature of simple, integral men and women of TRUTH -- CHRISTS.

cm: >  (A)
Yes, this is true. But if anyone says "I' am Christ, they falsify your statement for the very reasons you yourself mention. So 'you' as Raymond K are not Christ. To say so is, in fact, a delusion created by the very dualistic thinking that you denounce above.

rk: >>>  They are At-one with the transcendent, nondualistic resonance which encompasses dualistic (SATANIC) thought, but are not bound by it. They are on a "visitors pass to hell," They act as guides, merely pointing to the way, but never, ever, will they coerce others into changing mindsets.

cm: >  (B)
This is true to some extent. Except 'they' are not plural. Another delusion is created here. People think that self-consciousness is annihilated in enlightenment. It isn't. It is extended (infinitely). Well, at least in the enlightenment I'm talking about

CL: >>  Oh my goodness... what is that? What is that, Raymond? We all have come to recognize your patent pending Raymondesque speech patterns as the product of mental masturbation. Excessively verbose linguistic acrobatics that are laced with coercion, threats, and false prophecy. You are so hungry for power over the  minds of others that you cannot contain these garrulous ejaculations from that sewer beneath your nose. Hell,  isn't it?

rk: >>>  There have been and presently are MANY Christs (simple men/women of TRUTH) on this earth.

cm: > (C)
Again, this isn't entirely true. They appear as 'many', but there is in fact only one Christ past, present, and future -- because the dualistic understanding of time is transcended upon enlightenment.

rk:  Agreed.  Jesus spoke in parables.  I do not.  Communication falls upon spiritually deaf ears due to the inherent flaw of dualistic limitations of language itself.  Cosm, you and I may differ in our manner of communication at the "letter of the word" level, but at the essence or *Spirit of the word* level, you and I are ONE in understanding.  Let the attentive reader pick up on the energies of the three participants to this communication.  It does tell its story, doesn't it?

cm:  >  The perception of 'manyness' comes from OUR side, the maya-vic region of time and space. So it would be false to refer to them as 'many' and say that there are 'currently' many. There aren't. There has always only been One. I know what you are trying to say, but as soon as u DO say it it becomes false so it is best to shut up (don't worry, I intend to take this advice myself).

rk:  The inherent problem with shutting up when communicating with the HELL (dualism) BOUND through the flawed medium of human language points to the ultimate outcome experienced in most Satanic-ruled dualistic encounters, YOU'RE DAMNED IF YOU DO AND DAMNED IF YOU DON'T.  Shutting up when One ought speak to ignoramuses will only insure the continuance of such ignorance.  That is the nature of inertia, is it not?

cm:  >  It is best to take Lao Tsu's advice and keep silent before the majesty of God and nature (redeemed). "Those who talk, do not know. Those who know, do not talk". Because we are talking, we do not KNOW. Or at least not perfectly. "We see in a glass, darkly" as Paul says but later we will see "face to face"

rk: >>> Jesus of Nazareth was but ONE of them.

cm:  >  (D)
No, again for the reasons I've stated above, this isn't true (But I know what you're trying to say)

rk:  Then you have UNDERSTOOD me, regardless of the flaw of language.  That is the greatest lesson to learn for most on the path to self-realization.

cm:  >  In Revelation, He says "I, JESUS...." The 'historical' Jesus IS Christ, and no one EVER 'becomes' Christ because
Christ IS.

rk:  TRUE!!

cm:  >   'You' and 'I' die and Christ IS.

rk:  TRUE!! But in essence there IS NO DEATH.  That is the EVERLASTING LIFE that is the CHRIST state of Consciousness.

cm:  >  Nothing that 'becomes' ever becomes God, because you cannot reach the eternal through the transient.

rk:  Anything that "becomes" is timebound, therefore of the Intellect, and thus a projected illusion.  The human Intellect is bound by such narrow parameters.  That is the IGNORANCE I speak of when addressing the SATANIC Intellect which rules the world of man.

cm:  >  No doubt, many people living in these times will claim to be the messiah or a Christ, Maitreya, Buddha etc...but they will be wrong for the reasons I cite here. Christ is eternal and that means that any kind of Christ 'consciousness' is also eternal.

rk:  When in Rome, do as the Romans do.  When in Hell, SPEAK TRUTH and let the "devil take the hindmost."  Only do it in language that can be understood by spiritual ignoramuses who are willing to stretch their parameter of conditioning.  It is the expansion of consciousness, though still limited in its format, which allows those "who know" to understand how much "they do not know."  When the disillusionment of knowledge comes, as it must come, the spiritual pilgrim is ready to "let go and let GOD."

cm:  >  So for this reason 'we' cannot be Christ. We haven't been Christ in the past and we will not be Christ in the future, because there will no longer be a duality between 'me' and 'Christ' or any concept of past, present, future.

rk:  Again, "COSM", who has the awareness to grasp that simple,  self-evident TRUTH without tripping all over themselves with their own inadequate words?

cm: >  This is what the whole silly controversy in buddhism over 'gradual' and 'sudden' enlightenment is about. The enlightenment I'm talking about involves eventual immortality and eternal
life.

rk:  All controversies are "silly" busywork activities engaged in by conditioned ignoramuses while they await a "moment of insight."

CL:  >>  Yet in previous posts, you claim that Jesus Christ was a Satanic Minion.

rk:  Perhaps you'll produce evidence of that statement purportedly made by me.  I certainly don't recognize it.

CL:  >>  You were so angry with me when I imposed the Gift of Righteous Apprisal and informed you that YOU ARE NOT JESUS,

rk:  You're too "silly" to evoke anger in another.  I have NEVER claimed to be JESUS.  Silly Disinformation Agents such as yourself have promoted such a nonexistant statement.

CL:  >>  that you responded in your subordinate form, claiming that Christ and his present followers are Satanic.

rk:  I will let you sort out that twisted statement, for it is clear that you haven't a glimmer of what you are talking about.

cm: > Christ's present followers ARE Satanic, in that they are egoists See my post about alchemy

rk: >>>  History is rife with examples of the inertia of human thought and its enslavement of those who have bargained their souls away for worldly knowledge.

cm:  >  (E)
Make absolutely no mistake about this. The kingdom of God does not and never will exist on earth. The earth and everything in and of it, is satanic.

rk:  To that, I take issue.  The Kingdom of God does exist, HERE AND NOW; for it is eternal, beyond time, beyond Intellect.  It is the time-bound consciousness of civilized man with his dualistic Intellect that is SATANIC, and has made life on Earth a veritable  HELL ON EARTH.

cm:  >  It is doomed. It's elements are at all times heterogenous and in conflict and nothing here is either real or true. Everything is negated and falsified at every instance of time, even logic. The mind can produce nothing but illusion, and therefore cannot lead us to truth or 'deliver us from evil'.
 

cm:  >  Jesus said, "I have saved all that you have given me, except for the son of perdition" (body-mind/ego/satan). He was speaking past tense, because this act was accomplished from eternity, because Christ IS eternity...he doesn't act in time and space. This is an illusion from OUR side. These entities (mind-body/ego) exist and always will exist in maya/time/space....NOT eternity. That's why Christ says, "Die if thou wouldst live". The biological, time-spatial consciousness has to be completely overcome and defeated before you can enter the kingdom of God.  "Flesh and blood cannot inherit (the kingdom of God)" and so it is evident that this kingdom can not exist in earth/matter.

cm:  >  How do we transcend mind-body-ego?

rk:  END THOUGHT!!

cm:  >  The means of doing this is through the Great Work of alchemy. Yogins have also acheived this state although in the present condition of the world I don't believe anyone (in the west at least) has acheieved this.

rk:  Ending thought can never be an achievement, for all achievement is TIMEBOUND, born of the SATANIC Intellect.

cm:  >  Our karma's far too heavy. Christ intervened for this reason. Many people are waking up in this era, so I think it's safe to say that we're living in the so-called 'end times' -- but that doesn't mean you can let other people do it for you. Time is subjective. The divison between microcosm (individual)
and macrocosm (universe) is illusory and when you work on yourself you work on and for the whole. "Selfish salvation there is none"

CL: >>   Well, lets examine that kookery. God gave us brains, so that we can think.

cm:  >  Thinking never goes anywhere, which is one of the reasons 'mind' has to be transcended. This isn't simply a 'new age' theory -- Godel and other logicians have demonstrated the 'aporias' and blind-spots in logic and thinking. Philosophy of the abstract-conceptual type is largely a waste of time -- and is almost a COMPLETE waste of time when it comes to spiritual advancement. At a certain point, it becomes a positive hindrance to further development.  We 'spiritual types' have long known that the "Mind is the great slayer of the REAL" and that this 'slayer' has to be slain by anyone and everyone who would know God.

cm:  >  Mind works circularly and there is never any true 'progress' as such. Raymond is correct in this respect, but the question is how do we do it, how do we transcend mind? It is very difficult indeed, but it can be done. Revelation speaks of the ones who acheive it as going through "GREAT travail".
And they are. We all are and the 'ones' who are already there had to go through hell to make it. Having said this, more and more people are undertaking this homeward journey to God, and the more who undertake it at one time, the easier it'll be for any one of those people to acheive the goal. The earth/matter aren't our true home. We are immortal spirit.

rk: >>>  Let Go, Let God.

CL: >>   What God? Your god is Saint Lucifer. Anyone that claims to be Christ is actually the Antichrist or one of his demonic minions, it says so in the Bible.

cm:  >  It also says this: "I will reward them that HATE me" Deuteronomy 32:41 (My flatmate found this neat little reference)

cm:  >  It also says this: "I form the light and create darkness. I make peace and create EVIL. I the LORD do all these things" Isaiah 45:7

cm: >  This lord (of the old testament) is not worthy of worship. He IS Satan. He only THINKS he is God.

rk:  AHA!!  There you have it.  You have SAID IT, have you not?  You pierced the curtain of illusion that binds all blind believers to their rigid enslavement to the worship of "graven images," Icons, Mythical Heroes, etc.  You discerned the subtlety of it all, and you realized that Thought is Never and can Never be THAT ESSENCE which thought represents itself to be.  Does not such insight show that such thought is counterfeit by it very nature?  Is it any wonder that HELL on Earth has been created by organized governments and religions who openly and unashamedly worship SATAN, the petty god of Intellect?

cm:  >  The old testament wasn't made up: those priests DID experience a god who called himself "I AM" -- but because their perception was anchored in delusion they didn't perceive him aright. They worshipped him as an external god, outside themselves and they worshipped him in an external temple. But Christ said the kingdom of Heaven...and hence the ruler of that heaven ie GOD are "WITHIN YOU"...(not 'amongst' you as it has been mistranslated by protestants intent on keeping power over their flocks by inculcating fear of an external, all-powerful god who will punish you if you misbehave).

cm:  >  When Christ entered the picture, he corrected this illusion by re-establishing the lost connection with the inner temple.

rk:  Jesus of Nazareth demonstrated the life of a CHRIST consciousness to be that of a simple, integral, man/woman of TRUTH.  He was AT-ONE with the nondualistic DIVINE INTELLIGENCE
that most people call GOD. That was the simple lesson He brought to the people of His time.  You saw where it got HIM.  He was strung up by the very worldly religious leaders who wasted no time in creating a myth surrounding the Man whom they perceived to be threatening their worldly power -- then promptly  constructed an organized religion around such an mind conditioning focal point and continued with BUSINESS AS USUAL.

cm:  >  The idea of sacrifice was also removed from an external rite (ie the 'scapegoat' of the old testament) to an inner sacrifice to the SELF/God. The holy of holies or adytum in the EXTERNAL temple is only a SYMBOL pointing to the inner sanctum of Spirit. The holy of holies is the heart, which contains the monad/atman which Christ describes as "the pearl of great price" and the "grain of mustard seed that became a mighty oak" If you think I'm making too much of these parables, then read the Upanashads where you'll find this idea stated explicitly and the "grain of mustard seed" example is used there too. The holy of holies was at the centre of the temple, the human heart is the centre of human microcosm.

cm:  >  (And remember: 'Those who worship Him worship Him in SPIRIT" (not as an image in their minds or in an external temple made of bricks and wood, but in their own inner-most SELF)

cm:  >   Many gnostics think that Jehovah is satan and that he only created the physical world of matter. I am sympathetic to this view, but I believe that the whole debacle is explicable in terms of misperceptions due to our time-spatial consciousness. Read the Nag Hammadi texts , which were deliberately excluded from the biblical canon by the early church fathers and you'll get a completely different view of Christ and His teaching. Basically, many of these texts talk about how Christ came to overthrow this tyrant.

cm:  >  God is Light. This light has the capacity for self-realisation, en-LIGHT-enment.  Christ is the "Word" of God or God's self-realising utterance of that word: "I AM" or AUM...which contains the entire form of the manifest universe. Matter is a vibration of energy at various frequencies and all vibration is sound, so it is evident that creation is through the "word" "speech" "mantra" of God.  But, and this is crucial, Jehovah is himself a part of this ultimate all-encompassing creation and is NOT self-begotten, for the reasons I state above. He is almost exactly like what Plato means by the 'demi-urge' (half-maker) of his dialogue Timaeus, only he is blind and ignorant (Arguablly not his fault, but a good arguement
can be made that is willful deception on his part)

cm:  >  Jehovah thinks he is the only god because he makes the same mistake we make -- we arrogate the "I am" (ego) from its transcendent source/light and therefore we think that we are self-created, brought fourth through our own will, and self-enlightened. We aren't. Jehovah thinks he is the Most high,
because he is alienated from his own essence.

rk:  Is man made in the Image of GOD, or is GOD made in the image of man?

cm:  >   His existence in the old testament in fact proves the existence of something higher than him, something transcendent that must necessarily exist in order to ground him and furnish him with an essence. We (as egos) and jehovah himself do not even have free will because we do not choose to choose (this would involve a very obvious logical contradiction and eternal regress).

rk:  ALL choice is based in confusion.  All confusion is based in Dualism (Opposing Forces).  All Dualism is SATANIC (the OPPOSER). Come on Kiddies, it AIN'T that hard to SEE, is it?

cm:  >  We, jehovah, and all the rest are stuck in delusion, maya. We as egos are mirror images of Jehovah/satan!!. There is no hope for us as bodies-minds-egos (as Gurdgieff says we are 'just  machines'...everything 'just happens' at this level and nothing is chosen in the true sense because we don't have free will). Everything comes to liberation in its time, because this is a process of nature. Form and consciousness do not evolve separately because there is no consciousness without consciousness Of something and no 'something' (form) unless someone is conscious of it/perceives it. When ego-consciousness reaches the end of the line, initiation occurs and 'higher consciousness' (higher because as a holistic state, it encompasses more and eventually encompasses everything..at which point it is called "high-est" consciousness or God-consciousness. The true transcendent God is the Most high)

rk:  Welcome "COSM".  It has been a long dry spell.  Glad you arrived on the scene. Perhaps others all over the world will see the efficacy of the using the Internet when it comes to AWAKENING our slumbering Brothers and Sisters.   Who knows, even the cowardly IGNORAMUS  "clouded leopard" may realize the futility of his carrying out his SATANIC BLUFFS.

                                               Raymond Karczewski
 
 

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