Raymond Karczewski (arkent@arkenterprises.com) wrote:

Date: 2002-04-06 18:05:37 PST

rl: > While you have a point well worth stating as you have done you have failed to see that a massive number like 98% of people need to be told how to do anything right up front in an easy way to understand as the education (dumbing down) of people has been going on for a long time. So keep it simple, short, to the point and give direction to people they need it.

rk: rl, how much clearer could my message be? (see below) Yet you champion the cause of IGNORAMUSES. Why?

rk: My message is for the AWARE, the LIVING, not the UNAWARE, the LIVING DEAD.

rk: Those to whom you refer are DEAD to the living word of TRUTH. As such, they have already sealed their fate.

rk: For example: How many people do you suppose are even aware of how they have had their sovereignty stripped away from them and have been enslaved/converted into human (chattel) resources from birth via the instrument of a Birth Certificate?

rk: Millions upon millions are hoodwinked by a Legal System which controls them through the SATANIC MAGICK of WORDS. Yet they blithlely continue to live on in ignorance of it all, wondering how and why this world has become such a Hell on Earth.

rk: How's that for LACK OF INTELLIGENCE?

rk: Unfortunately, this LEGION of unaware lemming-like creatures will go to their deaths NEVER UNDERSTANDING that their own life has been living proof of the Hell that is created by the SATANICALLY influenced, mind-controlled masses -- Yet they SEE IT NOT!!

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Raymond Karczewski (arkent@arkenterprises.com) wrote:

rl: > It is very clear that I was miss understood and failed to communicate clearly. So I shall do so now if you will engage my endeavor here. Many of the ignorant masses are very blind to the whole thing.

rk: To the Spiritually Sighted, the Consciousness of the masses Speaks for Itself -- Res Ipsa Loquitor.

rl: > They need the government to think for them and protect them. This is a sick way to live. I myself was this way also till a few people got a hold of me and forced me to open my eyes and see.

rk: Just as one can lead a horse to water but can't make it drink, so also cannot one force another to understand until they are ready to understand. That is a truism.

rl: > People need to be shown what is going on exactly and how it will help them to fully understand.

rk: One can easily condition another into a state of unawareness through the medium of knowledge, but one cannot TEACH another to be AWARE. When the pain of navigating through life with closed spiritual eyes and blind belief is so great, the blind and gullible risk opening their eyes and acting responsibly to what is observed, then and only then will the understanding which is the essence of awareness resonate in that terminal of human consciousness.

rl: > People are like sheep for the most part DUMB! It makes life easier for them to go through their lives.

rk: Being DUMB never affords one AN EASY LIFE, does it?

rl: > While I myself am tired of slavery and being one I now that I am a true Sovergn by God give rights!

rl: > The way things are going right now I am very proud to be alive in these desprate and pearlis times we find ourselves in.

rk: The aware FEAR NOT, for awareness is the vibratory essence of TRUTH itself. Living in the state of Atonement with TRUTH is the only shield of protection one needs to walk freely and lovingly amongst the depraved, the violent, the Hell-bound. Such nondualistic essence mirrors and raises the awareness of the Hell-bound to their present state of corrupted consciousness. Although the Hell-bound may continue in their impotent assaults upon a person of Truth, they eventually diminish and blow away like the empty SATANIC Illusions they identify with.

rk: Should you or anyone else like a demonstration of that, I invite all to observe the Links marked with *** on my bulletin board link page at http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialchst.htm See for yourself the continuous, unrelenting, virulent attacks by anonymous cowards who eventually dried up and blew away, leaving only the behind-the-scenes blocking of my articles from appearing on USENET and other Forums.

rk: In the 7-plus years despite my open challenge to find a single "Contradiction in Essence" in all of my writing, they have been unable to come up with one, despite their many attempts at manufacturing one themselves. When exposed at this, they explode with anger and embarrassment, then retreat back into the anonymous shadows only to emerge with another false identity.

rk: What was the secret which allowed one man to stand up to such LEGION of abuse -- the simple shield of TRUTH.

rl: > With your warning people think you want us to take to arms and kill people.

rk: Why would you assert such nonsense? My message is clearly NOT THAT!

rl: > While that will be nessesary in the near future there are other ways to revolt as you have said. People read these and think you are a nut. YOU ARE NOT A NUT!

rk: Only in a BASSACKWARD world would a man of Peace who speaks of Sovereignty and destroying the destructive momentum of a SATANIC ruled NEW WORLD ORDER via the medium of peaceful and bloodless BOYCOTT be considered a NUT!

rl: > You are very real and this warning you give is needed.

rk: Needed but not HEEDED!! What's wrong with that picture, eh?

rl: > People need to be lead so lead. By calling them stupid and other names will cause a reaction it will not be in the desired mode.

rk: Only in a dualistic consciousness exists the dichotomy of the leaders and the led.

rk: A SOVEREIGN does not require the services of a leader to guide him through the twists and turns of life, for Divine Intelligence which is the essence of his being diminishes and dispells all illusion promoted by SATANIC Intellects.

rl: > To show even you how to lead and get off the high house for this very important message you spread (I thank you for you efforts) I want you to be far mor effective.

rk: I'm assuming you meant High Horse. I've been hearing that ALL MY LIFE, even in childhood coming from ignorant adults. What does that tell you about the impotency of Intellect when coming face to face with a Child of God?

rl: > The following I found and wish to share for all to read. It is rather long so please read it sheds light on this subject for the readers. FREEDOM IS OUR BATTLE CRY Raymond. Help free people.

#TL04: HOW TO FIND OUT WHO YOU ARE by Frederick Mann © Copyright 1993, Terra Libra Holdings,

ALL RIGHTS RESERVED

rk: I have not posted your attached message because you are not its author and it is copyrighted.

rk: May our interchange shed light in the darkness of the average conditioned consciousness.

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"Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)" (vgorilla@pobox.alaska.net) wrote:

Raymond Karczewski (arkent@arkenterprises.com) wrote:

rk: PAY ATTENTION TO THE MISDIRECTION BELOW: This is one of the many deceptions perpetrated upon unwary users of the Internet by government/media sponsored/supported mind control/disinformation agents.

rk: I, Raymond Karczewski have never posted any articles under the Internet name "a_christ_speaks@hotmail.com (A Christ Speaks)", nor have I EVER posted any articles to the following newsgroups:

"alt.tv.ally-mcbeal,alt.tv.buffy-v-slayer,alt.tv.survivor,alt.tv.seinfeld"

On 15 Apr 2002 14:00:13 -0700, a_christ_speaks@hotmail.com (A Christ Speaks) wrote in alt.fan.art-bell:

rk: > rl, how much clearer could my message be? (see below) Yet you champion the cause of IGNORAMUSES. Why?

rk: > My message is for the AWARE, the LIVING, not the UNAWARE, the LIVING DEAD.

vg: Cross-posted to:

alt.tv.ally-mcbeal,alt.tv.buffy-v-slayer,alt.tv.survivor,alt.fan.art-bell,alt.tv.seinfeld???

vg: So, FatBoy, how's thangs?

vg: As you know, I've just returned from my Disinfotainment Agents Conference, in Maui. During one of the presentations, I was floating on my back in the pool, looking up at the clear blue sky, palm trees (coconuts in situ, no less!), and I was thinking of you, and wrote you this little song. I think the intended melody will be obvious, even to one so clue-resistant as yourself. Here it is:

vg: Life Can Suck

vg: If you're stupid and you're crazy, life can suck.

If you're stupid and you're crazy, life can suck.

If you're stupid and you're crazy, and you're just a little lazy,

If you're stupid and you're crazy, life can suck!
 
 

vg: If you're wacko and you know it, clap your hands (You clap!)

If you're wacko and you know it, clap your hands (Clap clap!)

If you're wacko and you know it, then your life will surely show it

If you're wacko and you know it, Life can suck!
 
 

vg: If your woman is the reason, stomp your feet (stomp, stomp!)

If your woman is the reason, stomp your feet (stomp, stomp!)

If your woman is the reason, you can smack her, IT'S THE SEASON!

If your woman is the reason, life can suck!
 
 

vg: If you need a free attorney, scratch your nuts (scratch, scratch!)

If you need a free attorney, scratch your nuts (scratch, scratch!)

If you need a free attorney, be glad you're not on a gurney!

If you need a free attorney, LOTS OF LUCK!

vg: Hey, I never said it was a particularly good song, did I? I mean, what do you want from someone floating in a pool, Yeats?

vg: Yes, floating in a pool in Maui is HELL, is it not? Why, there were times when I couldn't stand more than 45 minutes at a stretch, and would have to get out and have another mai tai! They wouldn't even let me smoke in the pool, the evil bastards. I'm sure glad THAT torture is over!

-- V.G.

rk: These are some of the misdirections created by Government/Media, sponsored/supported disinformation agents which have flooded these newsgroups recently for the purpose of misdirecting public attention away from the serious content of my posts and to generate a "bandwagon" SPAM COMPLAINT campaign directed toward my server for the purpose of shutting me down.

rk: And you thought it was just innocent fun, eh? Think so? Well then, read below what disinformation agent "Vanilla Gorilla"/"Digger" say.

vg: > Sarcasm is my sword, Apathy is my shield.

vg: > I haven't started digging down into my bag of tricks, FatBoy. HELL (is it not?), I have brains I haven't even used, yet. Yeah, I OWN you, Columbo, but fortunately for me, you're depreciating rapidly, and I can use the tax write-off. Oh, and "chicanery"? Good Lord, you ain't seen nothing, yet. You just wait 'til I bust out a bucket of shenanigans, and a whole barrel of hullabaloo on your ass, and we'll have us some REAL fun! Yah, yoo-betcha!

vg: >>>> This is called "oligarchy", or "rule by the elite". It's supposed to be this way, and I am fully in favor of it. People like me rule people like you, because we are morally, mentally, and physically superior, to you. Frankly, we couldn't care less, whether you or anyone else are aware of it, as you are far too impotent to be able to do anything about it.

vg: >>>> Ever wonder why almost five years of your plaintive wailing have had NO effect, whatsoever? Well, wonder no more, Fat Boy. We know. You know. We know that YOU know, and now, you know that WE know. We just don't give a shit. Your poor, minuscule intellect cannot even comprehend its own insignificance. It's the old "mind over matter" problem, we don't mind, and you don't matter.

vg: >>>> It's like this: If you were good enough, you'd be in charge now.

vg: >>>> It's so simple, even you should have been able to figure it out, before now, but you haven't.

vg: > *I* never asked to be superior to everyone. In fact, it's quite a burden, sometimes. That's why I like to take vacations, so much! I haven't even been on my next one, yet, and I'm already planning the one after that. I'm leaning heavily towards going to Scotland, next year. I hear it's a really nice town.

vg: > And you'll be in Oregon! Heh.

-- V.G.

dr. digger wrote:

arkent@cdsnet.net (Raymond Karczewski) wrote:

rk: You Have a Right to Remain Silent!

d: Fuck that right! I'm guilty!

rk: What is this piece of advice? "You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say may be used against you in a court of Law....etc, etc, etc."

rk: Not only have the bullies not heeded this advice in the ensuing months since the case was referred to the FBI, they trip over each other in putting their damning statements in writing.

rk: What does it say about a predatory group which relies upon outside intercessors to plead on their behalf to stop the present Conspiracy to Libel investigation by the FBI when they themselves spur each other on to increase the momentum and intensity of their self-incriminating behavior?

rk: Considering the consequences which will result from their prideful, irresponsible, and reprehensible behavior in this matter, such continual "pushing the envelope" makes them downright STUPID.

d: Ray! When you sent off for that matchbook-cover cluelessness course, did you remember not to mail the matches?

d: I, for one, have already tried to turn myself in to the FBI. As you recall, I called the Medford Resident Agency, and offered to assist them in their investigation. Not only did they not want to hear my confession, but they weren't interested in questioning me, nor even in talking to me! After a month, no Special Agent has shown up at my door!

d: Now look, I have waived all my 5th amendment rights! I confess! I have ridiculed you, blocked your posts, libeled you, called you a fucking liar repeatedly, denied you your freedom of speech, and conspired with others to do all the above! Is there anything else? I confess to everything! I admit I'm guilty as a cat with canary feathers all over its puss! What more do you possibly need, bRaaay?

d: Now, where's my everluvven FBI agent, you bottom-feeding motherfucker?

rk: ATTN: FBI This post by digger constitutes a clear, unambiguous, and freely rendered public CONFESSION to the above charges, including the admission that he "conspired with others to do all the above!" (See above charges.) Such an unambiguous and direct admission of participation involving the "other members of the AFAB Bully group" in a CONSPIRACY TO LIBEL is an unquestionable FELONY which falls within your agency's investigative jurisdiction.

rk: FAILURE TO ACT UPON THIS CONFESSION OPENS THE FBI TO CHARGES OF CORRUPTION,INCOMPETENCE, AND/OR MALFEASANCE. What could possibly be the political circumstances by which you place the reputation of your agency in jeopardy by such a failure to act on this timely Constitutional FREE SPEECH issue? Why is the agency so deliberately bent on opening itself to PUBLIC SCANDAL AND RIDICULE through such a blatant demonstration of its failure to act in the performance of its sworn duties?

rk: As a retired police sergeant living on a pension from a California police agency, I find your agency's conduct in this matter to be unconscionable. It is as mind boggling to one interested in justice as it would be to perceive a murderer walk into your office,openly confess to a murder he has just committed only to be "kissed off" by the intake screening agent telling him "Don't bother me, can't you see I'm eating a "doughnut?" Is this laughingstock image really desired by any responsible law enforcement agency?

rk: A copy of this article is being posted to ALL appropriate political and general newsgroup including CONGRESS.

rk: We shall see how long a public agency can persist in avoiding the responsibility of performing its sworn duty! Perhaps it is time to INVESTIGATE the INVESTIGATORS!

rk: I encourage all who are concerned with the quality of service now being provided by publicly funded governmental agencies which do not perform their sworn duties to contact their State Congressmen and Representatives, along with their local FBI office. INSIST upon a full accounting of FBI actions taken in the current open case of CONSPIRACY TO LIBEL submitted to the Medford, Oregon office of the FBI in November of last year (1997) by Raymond Karczewski.

rk: Perhaps it is time for CONGRESS to INVESTIGATE the INVESTIGATORS!!

dr. digger, BsD, PMAFA, HdPD, AAAA

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Amatista (shiamhome@yahoo.ca) wrote:

Raymond Karczewski (arkent@arkenterprises.com) wrote:

a: > This time I will say I have a slightlly different opinion...the way I see it whatever we create for ourselves within is going to be manifested in the outside world.

rk: Holistic (holy), undivided, indivisible, At-One, Balanced. Are these deeply perceived vibratory states not of the nondualistic state of Consciousness, the State of TRUTH, the state of INFINITE INTELLIGENCE, CHRIST CONSCIOUSNESS?

rk: Manifesting such TRUTH within and without is tantamount to being "In this world, (the world of thought) but not of it." Such state of consciousness, however, may not be perceived as such by any state of consciousness which is fragmented, partial, split, divided, limited, knowledge-bound or judgmental -- the state of dualistic consciousness; i.e., the SATANIC ruled, Knowledge-bound, conditioned Intellect.

a: > As if every person and/or situation will serve us as a mirror whiah means not only the reflection of the light but also of the shadow...now heaven for me is an achievement of a perfect harmonious equilibrium within described in human terms as total unconditional love, inner peace and bliss.

rk: Yes. The Mirror of TRUTH reflecting the eternal unfoldment of NOW is the means which offers salvation to the fragmented dualistic state of consciousness. The dualistic state of consciousness, the SATANIC (Opposer) ruled intellect, is capable of grasping only the image, the part, the reflection, for the latter is eternally caught in the time-bound AFTERMOMENT of conceptual judgment, BELIEVING the partial reflection, the words, the concept, to be that undefinable, unknown, nondualistic essence the mirror reflects. That is the source of confusion which plagues all intellectual (Fallen from Grace) blind believers ruled by outer-directed hypnotic suggestion and conditioning.

rk: Almost, but no cigar, eh?

rk: Such is the nature of all who worship SATAN, the petty god of Intellect.

rk: There are many dualistic "Talk Abouts" (Believers), but few nondualistic "Talk Ofs" (Christs) who resonate as TRUTH. Look around you. See it for yourself.

a: > Therefor I am not so sure if this is something that we will be able to achieve here on earth and then manifest it outside...how will that be manifested in this physical plane remains a mistery for me

rk: Is not such statement, though well intentioned, merely indicative of a partial Intellect reaching the end of its own limiting TETHER?

a: > ...have the great masters and the enlightened achieved it while they were experiencing this human body?

rk: How would the partial intellect be able to grasp such a consciousness? Is not such holistic resonance clearly beyond its comprehension? Yeah, you guessed it, BELIEF -- the lazy man's truth -- is pulled out from the Intellect's SATANIC bag of tricks and illusions. BELIEVERS, blind to the TRUTH, worship the reflection and miss the essence of that which is being reflected.

a: > if they did indeed, then were they able to see this manifestation "outside" in the physical plane?...another question that is often in my mind is: what happens to the shadow (thinking in terms of ying/yang as essential components of everything that ever have been, IS and will be) once we achieve heaven?

rk: Dualistic Thought must end for nondualistic TRUTH to manifest. Did not a spiritual brother utter some 2000 years ago, that one must die to be reborn of the spirit? He was not referring to the death of the body, but the death/ending of dualistic thought, which then allows for the direct holistic perception of moment-based TRUTH. The aftermoment-bound intellect would call such experience DIRECT INSIGHT.

rk: Did the blind believers GET IT then? Do blind believers GET IT now? Or are they immersed in their own self-generated confusion, waiting to get their reward when they die and go to Heaven. If Heaven and Hell are eternal, THEY EXIST NOW, do they not? They CANNOT begin at some time in the future. See what I mean about the IGNORANCE of blind believers?

a: > will it be just balanced and will the light and the shadow (in fairy tale terms)"live together in perfect harmony for ever after"...any opinion...very welcome...

rk: Ah! the speculation of a dualistic intellect caught in its own self-created diversion of reverie.

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Since his Fall from Grace, man has turned away from his Divine gift of direct perception, his resonance of atonement with nondualistic TRUTH.

In that break of holistic consciousness, man relinquished his legacy of eternal life (timelessness) in lieu of his petty acquisition of a timebound, fragmented, Satanic (Opposer) ruled Intellect.

From that moment forward man has known suffering, confusion, constant war and Death. Through the medium of blind, dualistic thought, out of a nondualistic Heaven, man has made life on earth a dualistic living Hell.

How's that for a sign of civilized man's Intelligence?

In every age, Sons and Daughters of God (Christs) have been on this earth to show the way to spiritually errant brothers and sisters, to return the intellectually guided blind and ignorant to their rightful estate of Consciousness. Yet Hell has maintained its hypnotic hold over the time-bound consciousness of civilized IGNORAMUSES.

Why?

The answer is quite simple and obvious to the living Spiritually *aware.* However, it continues to elude the dead (aftermoment-based), *unaware,* Satanically ruled, partial, fragmented, Intellectually guided consciousness, the consciouness of those who consider themselves civilized.

The Satanic ruled intellect is the environment of duality. From the moment Love, the essence of nondualism, the holistic (holy) Christ State of Consciousness was relinquished by man in response to the Satanic temptation of greed (being a "god" in his own right). Man, in ignorance, chose death (time-bound existence) over everlasting (eternal-timeless) life.

The rest is, as they say, HISTORY!!

What was the lesson our Spiritual Brother Jesus the Christ brought to this earth some 2000 years ago? What was the crime He committed which led to His death?

Millions upon millions continue to worship the Intellectual ICON of Jesus, a carefully crafted mythical image that has been promoted by SATANIC worldly, power and wealth oriented religious organizations for the past 2000 years, yet they have remained completely unaware of the lesson a simple Man of Truth brought to His contemporaries and posterity.

Jesus, as are all Christs, was, by His nature, a Spiritual Anarchist. He/They were/are in this world (the world of dualistic thought), but were/are not of it. His/Their indisputable essence was/is based in nondualism, the holistic essence of Truth, Life, and Love.

What was the real reason Jesus the Christ was put to death? Was it not for His living example of one who lived life on this earth as a sovereign?

Jesus, in reference to the civilized world of His time, said that He was "in this world, but not of it." He admitted to being on the outside of the structured society of His time, living in a state of noncontradiction, a state of Love. He coexisted with the law. His relationship was one of abiding with, but not being solely bound to the confines of man's law. His was a relationship of fulfillment, not protest, not resistance. He preached "Resist not Evil." Resistance to anything gives strength to that which is resisted. It increases the contradiction within oneself and destroys one's inner peace, which is Love. When there is Love, there is intelligence. When intelligence is operating, there is harmony, an atonement with all. He spoke to the people of His time about the spiritual equality of man. This, ultimately, is what led to His death. What happens when there is a state of Oneness with all? There is no longer the duality of greater and lesser, there is just "What Is." When one looks at another man while in that state of atonement, the other is perceived to be neither superior nor inferior. In that state of Oneness, authority does not exist. In the time of Jesus, what kind of a man would view himself to have no authority over him? Only a King! For would not all others consider themselves to be subject to the ruling authority? This led to the charge of blasphemy, which carried with it the label of "King of the Jews." The only crime committed on that day was the execution of an uncivilized mind by civilized society. The Man's death was a tribute to the state of wholeness and Love. That Love truly was the example of Christ's life and death. For with His final breaths of life, He uttered, "Forgive them Father, for they know not what they do." His last concern appeared to have been for the ignorance of those who were not aware of their true nature.

Who and what was threatened by such a life? Was it not the Satanic Ruled Authorities, the few who have "managed" to rule the many in all civilized societies since the "beginning of time" (subsequent to man's Fall from Grace)? How do such authorities, the "few," gain and hold such power over the "many?" Is it not through the venue of "Controllable Chaos"?

War is such Controllable Chaos, but because such power is a double-edged sword, the rulers themselves run the risk of losing their lives and their power through insurrection of the masses who are normally easily manipulated in times of relative peace.

But when IGNORAMUSES come to the realization they have nothing to lose but their hellish existence, they are prepared to die rather than to continue to live enslaved.

That is the nature of martyrdom. Martyrs would rather die than change at the fundamental level of their beingness. In their carefully "outer directed" inculcated ignorance, they have not yet learned the lesson of "RESIST NOT EVIL!"

The Masses have been dumbed down through millenia of mind control.

They have forgotten THEY ARE THE SOVEREIGNS.

They have been conditioned to dream the dream that they are SLAVES.

They suffer from Spiritual Amnesia. They've lost sight that they are the PRODUCERS of wealth, and the SATANIC, non-producing moneychangers and rulemakers, the "few who rule the many," are merely managers and exploiters of such wealth. At the dualistic level of IGNORANCE, the masses are unaware that they are THE POWER.

What is the simple power that no ruler can survive, when the masses become aware of their hellish plight?

Certainly it cannot be RESISTANCE, for resistance always tranfers and increases power to that which resisted. In that venue, the few in control of the money and technical advances of war have a decided superiority over fragmented and sporadic uprisings.

No, war and revolution is NOT THE WAY!

What then is the way?

BOYCOTT, BOYCOTT, BOYCOTT!!!

When the producers withhold from the managers, their production, their wealth, the few are POWERLESS to fuel the machinery which ENSLAVES and TYRANNIZES. They cannot use the power produced by the producers to the producers detriment.

In this message is the liberation of man given to all freely and with love.

Who among you have the "Spiritual eyes to see and the ears to hear?" And of those who claim to see and hear, how many have the energy to act decisively upon such a world-changing course?

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The White House

1600 Pennsylvania Avenue

NW Washington, DC 20500

president@whitehouse.gov

Mr. President:

On November 8th, 2001, I posted on the Internet an article titled "A National MIND CONTROL Scandal/A Political Setup! REPOST" See:http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialch44.htm#Scandal

Because of an ongoing behind the scenes Internet Censorship campaign launched to keep my articles from appearing on public newsgroups and forums, it was necessary for me to post the article THREE times, before it appeared in the designated newsgroups and Internet Archives.

In that message, I declined the October 31, 2001 invitation of Virginia Republican Congressman Tom Davis' aide acting on behalf of Congressman Davis to come to Washington to represent the State of Oregon and to participate as a member of the National Business Advisory Council tasked to contribute input into your proposed programs designed to stabilize the economy and render tax relief to those in need of such relief.

The original contact was followed up by a subsequent phone call received on November 7, 2001, 13:45 pm, from Colin Floyd of the National Republican Congressional Committee. She reaffirmed the invitation extended on October 31, 2001 by Congressman Tom Davis' office. An interesting side note: This contact was exactly three years to the date I first publicly contacted my elected STONEWALLING Oregon Senators.

For the second time and in no uncertain terms, I declined the offer.

On January 28th, 2002, I wrote you a letter titled "MR. BUSH, TEAR DOWN THAT STONE WALL OF SILENCE." A copy of that communication was also publicly posted on the Internet. SEE: http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialch50.htm#BUSH

To this date, I've not received a reply to that second communication from your office.

On April 4th, 2002, I wrote another letter to your office, also making it public on the Internet. It was simply titled: "MR. BUSH, DO NOT RAID THE PENSION FUNDS FOR ANOTHER BAILOUT!!" SEE: http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialch53.htm#RAID

Just as the first two, that communication also failed to elicit a response from your office.

The STONEWALL OF SILENCE, an indication of our present dying Constitutional Republic, was clear to me since November 7th, 1998 when the FBI, your predecessor President Bill Clinton, Oregon Senators Ron Wyden and Gordon Smith, and Print and Broadcast media dared not publicly address the issue of Internet Mind Control upon unwary users of the Internet.

It must be noted that a key participant in the Internet Disinformation/Mind Control campaign is a former member of the Oregon Republican Party Central Committee.

Curious, is it not?

Instead of answers from elected officials at the highest levels of government, I received INVITATIONS.

I declined the offers.

I, like many, many others, see clearly the destructive path our government has embarked upon. I personally, have not voted in years. I see no point in it. The Florida election fiasco in the last Presidential election bears me out. I have NEVER been a Republican, yet here I was being courted by the Republican Party. My "awareness" antenna went up!

That brings us up to the present. Although I have not received any response from your office to my letter titled "MR. BUSH, DO NOT RAID THE PENSION FUNDS FOR ANOTHER BAILOUT!!" dated April 4th, 2002, you guessed it, I received another Invitation, this one from Republican National Committee Chairman Marc Racicot, to attend the Republican National Committee's Presidential Gala 2002 and to accept my nomination for membership and attend the Spring National Meeting of the Chairman's Advisory Board.

Sir, you are the Leader of one of the preeminent and powerful Nations of the World,

I am but a Christ, not a myth, not an icon, but a simple man of Truth.

As such, I call upon you to exercise your considerable influence to stop this mad, headlong rush in the Middle East to bring WORLD WAR III to the homefront of ill-prepared Americans.

I ask you to withdraw your support, both financial and political, of our Israeli Brothers who are Hell bent upon bringing about the destruction of our Palestinian Brothers, all for the benefit of those who profit from such wars. I further ask you to withdraw our country from the United Nations and the International Monetary Fund. Let history show that George W. Bush was the President who returned to his countrymen their God-given Sovereignty.

As my Spiritual Brother Mahatma Ghandi demonstrated, nonresistance is the key to peace. Withdraw your support and BOYCOTT, BOYCOTT, BOYCOTT war mongers, wherever they may be.

Another wise man stated long ago, "As above, so below!" Such simplicity, such clarity, Mr. President, is the very essence of TRUTH!!

As a Christ, my view is Spiritual, not Political. I leave the political sphere to you. I trust you will see your duty well beyond the tremendous pressure and burden which has been placed upon your shoulders as a political leader of one of the most powerful Nations of this world.

May I expect a response to this letter?

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Tom wrote:

Raymond Karczewski (arkent@arkenterprises.com) wrote:

t: As I see your articles make no sense.There so long and never make a point.I guess in your own odd way you understand them.

rk: tom, look to your own comments for the answer to your present dilemma. Admittedly, you cannot SEE the "sense" in my writing, nor the points made in them.

rk: Yet you so readily conclude that, in my own "odd" way, you "guess" I understand them.

rk: I bring your attention to the level of consciousness that "has eyes but cannot SEE, and has ears but cannot HEAR," yet is compelled to take the time to direct in a half-cocked, dripping with " PREJUDICE" manner, baseless JUDGMENT toward that which you admittedly have not understood.

rk: You, tom, are like the LEGION of dark spirited ignoramuses who through the years have responded to my writing on the Internet with cheap shot, kindergarten level one-liners which only satisfy the suffering limited egos of commiserating blind and deaf ignoramuses. See articles marked with *** on http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialchst.htm

rk: Yes indeed, tom, your comments only prove there exist in this Hell on earth, more "dumbed-down," spiritually blind and deaf, culturally-conditioned "sheeple" than there are Divinely Guided, Sovereign Christs.

rk: May your present "singing to the choir" commiseration with fellow ignoramuses reveal the sour note which resonates as your your life.

04/22/02 11:11:41 PM

t: SORRY

rk; Apology accepted.

rk: Tom, I understand my comments do not sit right with the politically/religiously-correct conditioned consciousness of most who read them.

rk: You show an openness to Truth that most who respond to my writings lack.

rk: I have been subjected to unending attack based in ignorance for over seven years now. But a change is occurring in our world. Your apology is evidence of it.

rk: I do not write to convince anyone of anything. I write because I see what few are able or capable of seeing due to their political/religious conditioned state of consciousness. I find it necessary to awaken my sleeping brothers and sisters to the perils which are no longer hidden in plain sight as they have been for years, but now are being flaunted shamelessly by those who control the minds and lives of the spiritually blind.

rk: Your simple apology speaks volumes to an awakening world.

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rk: Following is my personal commentary to the Associated Press Report filed by Leigh Strope, Associated Press Writer Wednesday, April 17, 2002; 11:25 AM

rk: The above AP reports that:

AP: > "A flood of income tax payments has helped ease pressure on the national debt ceiling and allowed the Treasury Department to begin restoring money shifted out of government employee pension accounts last month to avert an unprecedented government default, officials said Wednesday."

rk: When a corporate entity (U.S. Government) can borrow illusory money conjured *out of nothing* from the private corporation IMF's Federal Reserve in order to pay on the "Black Hole" debt also incurred from borrowing from the same lender, i.e., IMF/Federal Reserve, let all Sovereigns join their voices and expose the magick of wealth redistribution by demanding their government "SHOW US THE MONEY, NOT THE BOOKEEPING ENTRY!!"

WAKE UP AMERICA!!

AP:> "The Bush administration also continued to press a deadlocked Congress, which has avoided an election-year vote to extend the government's authority to borrow, to act because the $5.95 trillion debt limit could be hit this summer."

rk: Only blind, hunkering-down, broken-spirited, LEGIONS of tyrannized, face-saving, compensatory slaves can be convinced that such decisions to extend this country's debt limit WILL NOT DESTROY THIS CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC.

WAKE UP AMERICA!!

AP:> "The need to raise the debt ceiling has only been postponed," Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill said in a Wednesday letter to Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle. The Bush administration wants a $750 billion increase."

rk: Isn't the ploy of POSTPONEMENT what government routinely uses when the public's voice has been raised against such freedom destructive legislation?

WAKE UP AMERICA!!

rk: Legislators who would betray the confidence of their constituents routinely postpone legislation until the public tires or its attention span is effectively redirected through mind control techniques onto frivolous, gossipy, titillating misdirections. Once the public is lulled and deemed to have returned to their usual hypnotic sleep state, our less than integral lawmakers then QUIETLY AND WITHOUT FANFARE pass such unconstitutional legislation.

WAKE UP AMERICA!!

rk: An example of that can be found in the recent passage of the Patriot Bill; a bill which has seemingly gutted our Bill of Rights. Our revered legislators PASSED the bill without ever having READ IT, let alone debated it. I bring your attention to the word "seemingly." For according to our U.S. Constitution, the SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND, are not all laws which run counter to the U.S. Constitution by law declared to be null and void, and therefore carry no force of law behind them?

WAKE UP AMERICA!!

AP:> " O'Neill earlier this month moved federal retirement funds into a non-interest-bearing account to free room for more borrowing. The juggling of federal retirement accounts has been done before in standoffs with Congress and has no effect on employees' retirement funds."

rk: The AP article says "The juggling of federal retirement accounts . . . has no effect on employee' retirement funds." REALLY? Anyone out there able to pickup on the MAGICK of MIND CONTROL?

WAKE UP AMERICA!!

AP:> "The money was moved back Tuesday and interest paid after income tax payments began flowing into Treasury coffers after Monday's tax deadline."

rk: And the quality of life of the taxpaying public was diminished once again through the MAGICK of WORDS.

WAKE UP AMERICA!!

AP:> "Without the shifting of funds, the government would have been technically in default on the debt – which has never happened in the country's history."

rk: How does one pay off a debt with a debt instrument? Answer that question for yourself and you will see how the DEATH OF AMERICA and BIRTH OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER has been planned out and is presently being implemented.

WAKE UP AMERCA!!

AP:> "That would cast a cloud over U.S. securities, which are considered the world's safest investment."

rk: AMERICA, you have just been told just how precarious the future prospects are for this COUNTRY.

rk: It's time for the intelligence of free, sovereign human beings to prevail over the "Politically Correct" conditioned minds of a thoroughly confused and inert American Public. It's time for a decisive BOYCOTT action to be taken by the TRUE government -- the government OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE AND FOR THE PEOPLE?

WAKE UP AMERICA!!

AP:> "It also would mean the government would be forced to pay billions of dollars in higher interest payments on the national debt in future years."

rk: If collective insight into one's true estate of Divine Intelligence (the state of holistic consciousness which transcends the dualistic Satanic power of mind control which presently rules the minds of Civilized Men) should occur, it would burst the IMF/FEDERAL RESERVE bubble of illusion and return our nation to a Constitutional GOLD-SILVER standard. Thus, the stranglehold private corporations have had on our sovereign Country would be broken. In that instant there would arise a NEW WORLD CONSCIOUSNESS without ANY need for a NEW WORLD ORDER.

WAKE UP AMERICA!!

AP:> "The debt limit issue is more about politics than economics."

AP:> " Some Democrats want to use the issue in November's election to help drive home their message that President Bush's $1.35 trillion, 10-year tax cut last year was too generous and has pushed the country back into deficit spending."

rk: And so it goes for once-SOVEREIGN CITIZENS who have been reduced to value-producing, self-doubting CHATTEL via the venue of Government/Media Sponsored/Supported mind control.

WAKE UP AMERICA!!

AP:> "Republicans who control the House have lacked the votes to pass legislation increasing the debt limit because of opposition from conservatives, who are leery that it will lead to more spending."

© 2002 The Associated Press

rk: THE SOLUTION: BOYCOTT, BOYCOTT, BOYCOTT!

WAKE UP AMERICA!!

rk: It's time to reform our country's election system. The last presidential election in Florida amply demonstrated it to be a joke. Elect your officials and fund YOUR government programs through a VOTE of your POCKETBOOK, not some meaningless, manipulatable computer-controlled votes which allow the vote counters, not the voters, to determine election results. Let your vote of BOYCOTT be the broom which makes a clean sweep of a corrupt, overburdening, tyrannizing system. DO NOT CONTINUE TO FUND YOUR OWN DESTRUCTION.

WAKE UP AMERICA!!

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curtis_j._erickson@pmug.org (curtis j. erickson) wrote:

Raymond Karczewski (arkent@arkenterprises.com) wrote:

cje: Ray, if I sent you, say $5 a month, would you stop posting on this NG? -Curt

rk: Curt, perhaps you ought to save up your money to pay for services of Satanic ruled experts who dominate the mental (keep em confused) health industry.

rk: See Odyssey of the Pegs http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialch10.htm#Pegs

rk: The clarity of nondualistic Truth is always anathema to a confused dualistic intellect bound to an outer-directed, conditioned BASSACKWARD reality.

rk: Hell, isn't it?

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Raymond Karczewski (arkenterprises.com) wrote:

Dear Doug and Phyllis;

I find it best to respond to your letter point by point.

Hello, Ray & Anita:-

Doug: It has taken us (Phyllis & Myself) all this time to answer your e-mail letter of April 16, 2002. Much prayer, frequent asking of our Father in heaven to provide the assistance of the Holy Spirit, was involved.

Ray: And well you should have!

Doug: The outcome has been that I/we can not become involved in the belief that the answer and or solution to the world's problems is Anarchy:

1. " The complete absence of government and law.

2. "political disorder and violance; "hence,

3. "disorder in any sphere of activity."

Ray: Doug, it would appear that you misunderstood me at the level I was communicating. The essence I was speaking of was not the political interpretation of "anarchy." It was at the essence of one who understands the conflict of living rigidly according to man's law when God's Law is all encompassing.

Ray: It is the difference between living holistically or living dividedly. Man's law is a poor substitute for bringing about "Peace on Earth." Human history is testimony to that fact. In fact, man's law, by its very nature of dualism and control, is quite easily seen to be the cause of division and conflict, the ingredients which keep pitting man against man and which engender endless wars and suffering. Ask yourself if our Spiritual Brother Jesus NEEDED to be controlled by such "laws of man" for him to function while being "in this world but not of it"?

Doug: After spending 3 1/2 years in combat during WW 11 & being blown out of a shell hole on August 1943 in Sicily and suffering severe concussion and what is now known as Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, I do not comprehend how anyone could expect me to condone the belief that the answer to the solution is anarchy.

Ray: Again, Doug, words are sometimes more of a barrier to communication than they are facilitators. We did not come to an understanding in our talk. You apprehended the superficial meaning of the words (the letter of the word and their usual semantical meaning), but you did not pick up on the deeper essence -- the spirit of the words -- which can only be grasped when the quietness of intellect allows for the telepathic communication to supplement the denotative meaning of the word.. When the letter of the word is the sole basis for communication, there can only be agreement or disagreement. Unless both the letter of the word and the Spirit of the word are grasped holistically (from which the word "HOLY" is derived), there can be no understanding.

Ray: I bring your attention to the feel of our communication when Anita and I were at your home. It was quite beyond the letter of the words used, was it not?

Ray: It is that which must be examined deeper, beyond the level of words used. There are many ways to speak the same TRUTH, as LOVE can attest to.

Doug: We realize that there are many things wrong with this country and this world. The solution is in our belief that our relationship with God is the only answer.

Ray: But to have that holistic relationship with God, must not we have the same holistic relationship with each other? Admittedly, I am shocking to those who follow a particular conditioned viewpoint, be it religious or political. It is not because I OPPOSE them, for I OPPOSE no one. The shock comes from my nonsupport of that which I perceive to be dualistic conditioned belief seeking reinforcement. In other words, Doug, my God is Truth.

Doug: The closer that relationship becomes the more difficult it will be for us to maintain that relationship, because the evil entity known as Satan will keep forcing his wedge of hate between us and the love of God.

Ray: On that point, you and I UNDERSTAND each other.

Doug: We thank you for you visit. I will keep researching in regard to Alex Jones and his reasons for his videos. I am sure it will prove out that some of his documentations are honest,but again I repeat that I do not believe that He, you, or we have found the complete solution to the world problems, but with God's help, our talks (Prayers) with Him they will be solved.

Ray: If you lived in the time of Jesus, would you make the same statement to Him, sans any prior knowledge of Him when such contact was made? TRUTH is a hard pill to swallow. It is never welcome in a world which is ruled by dualistic thought control (religious and political conditioning).

Doug: We can not have anarchy and abide by the other covenant which Jesus gave us, "Love thy neighbor as thy love thyself." It will not work. It will not solve the problems.

Doug: God Blesses You and Yours, Our Prayers Are Constant,

Ray: Doug, I suspect you have not read much of what I have written on my board at http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialchst.htm I abhor war and bloody revolution. My approach to reclaiming our presently Satanic ruled world is the peaceful, non-bloody act of BOYCOTT, for I long ago learned the lesson of "RESIST NOT EVIL."

Ray: Thank you for you candidness. I must assume that you have finished with the tape I left with you. Either Anita or I will pick it up when we next go into town.

Ray: Doug, because of the importance of this subject of communication, I would like to post this publicly on the Internet for all, Christians and non-Christians alike to read.

Ray: I would like your permission to do so. If you wish, I can strip away your identity(s) before posting it. I personally perceive this communication will go a long way toward opening the eyes of many as to the perils of communication based solely on the letter of words.

Ray: If you would like your name to remain, all the better.

Ray: If you would reply to this with a Yea or Nay to the posting of this communication, I would appreciate it.

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curtis_j._erickson@pmug.org (curtis j. erickson)

Raymond Karczewski (arkent@arkenterprises.com) wrote:

cje: >>> Ray, if I sent you, say $5 a month, would you stop posting on this NG? -Curt

rk: >> Curt, perhaps you ought to save up your money to pay for services of Satanic ruled experts who dominate the mental (keep em confused) health industry.

rk: >> See Odyssey of the Pegs

http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialch10.htm#Pegs

cje: > Me: No, you're just boring and you take up space on my browser. That's all. Has nothing to do with mental health. Would, say, $7 a month do it?

Thanks, though!

-Curt

rk: Yet you continue to read my articles. Is that not the nature of psychological (mental illness) addiction itself.

rk: curtis, were you to be aware enough to understand why you are compelled to read that which you "judge" to be boring, you would understand the nature of Divine Intelligence when it mirrors the conditioned mental illness of the "Living Dead."

rk: When you've had enough of your own self-generated judgment-based confusion which deters you from grasping the simple TRUTH about yourself, you will have passed through the personal Hell which your ignorance, has allowed you to create for yourself.

rk: There is nothing clever about your compensatory statements, is there? They don't even allow you to save face, do they?

rk: Hell, isn't it?

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Allen Crider (spam@swnews.net)

Raymond Karczewski (arkent@arkenterprises.com) wrote:

ac: Ray, look at that old Bible paragraph. You can't serve both mammon and god.

rk; Allen, I'm surprised at the lack of spiritual discrimination demonstrated by your comment. I expected more from you.

rk: Truth is there for all to see. It is not restricted to readers and thumpers of books. The Truth I speak of is Eternal, stands on its own, and is not born of OPT (other people's thoughts) books .

rk: One must eschew the dualistic path of spiritually blind and Fallen from Grace, lemming-like civilized (thought controlled) sheeple and surrender to holistic (nondualistic) Divine Intelligence, for therein lies all the answers which liberate the soul.

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surereal: surereal777@MSN.com wrote:

Raymond Karczewski, (arkent@arkenterprises.com) wrote:

s: As a believer in Reincarnation and in the Biblical phrase, "God is Love," I believe in heaven but not in hell.

rk: Isn't it amazing what one can do with the "givens" of Belief? You can damn near posit anything and therefrom construct any reality you wish. Thus arises the Satanic based Intellectual escape from WHAT IS.

s: I feel that the principal of God being a all loving heavenly parent makes a permanent hell impossible.

rk: So you are saying that GOD doesn't exist, only the *principal* you presently hold of such Infinite Intelligence exists in your limited Intellectual Consciousness? How parochial of you!!

s: I have asked many earthly parents this question: If you had the power to make a hell as a punishment for your children, would you do so?

rk: Hells bells, they do it every day in their present spiritual ignorance. All you need do is look at the world they have created for themselves and their children.

s: I have yet to have one answer yes, regardless of what religion these parents maybe.

rk: Look at the world. Look at their self-deceiving comments. I REST MY CASE about the state of consciousness that is human ignorance.

s: Now it seems to me that if an imperfect earthly parent, with nowhere near the love that God feels us, could not imagine creating a hell for their children, what could make anyone believe that an all perfect, all loving heavenly parent would do so?

rk: Infinite Intelligence does not create Hell, finite intelligence (Satanic Intellect) does.

s: God would correct us as any good earthly parent would, but making the punishment used for correction permanent would defeat the purpose of correction.

rk: Why do you project finite limitations upon THAT which is INFINITE? Stop glorifying limiting Satanic myths by attempting to anthropomorphize that which is beyond the ken of the Intellect.

s: Would a permanent "time out" serve any purpose for a child or his parent? No, because the child then has no way to put his lesson learned to use in his life.

rk: surereal, you're preaching to the kindergarten spiritual choir with such mechanical, circular, go-nowhere techniques. Can't you see they don't work in THIS WORLD, NOW? Just look at the state of the world that has been created by such nonsense.

s: But if God is using Karma by the means of Reincarnation to correct us and perfect us, then we can learn God's lessons and apply them in a spiritual and physical way.

rk: Your over-reliance upon the intellectual "concept" of Reincarnation is your personal copout from LIVING TRUTH IN THIS MOMENT. You are like all procrastinators who live on the HOPE of TOMORROW, yet live in the Hell of TODAY.

s: Again I ask: What does it serve God to take us from heaven and put us on this earth with the only goal of making it back to where we came from, and just to make it a little harder, set up a permanent hell and a bunch of devils and demons to pitchfork us away from making it back to him?

rk: What an audacious presumption to make -- that you should be "thinking" for God, an holistic entity that no dualistic Intellect can grasp. See what I mean about the ignorant (limited) "givens" of belief?

s: Does this sound like a God of Love?

rk: Rise above your present limited, conditioned, dualistic intellectual state. Allow the Resurrection of the nondualistic Spirit of Divine Intelligence to emerge. There you will find your answer. Did not a Brother Christ say some 2000 years ago that one must die to be reborn of the spirit? Break the stranglehold spell the Satanic Intellect has on the consciousness of man, and you will not "think" love, you will BE LOVE. . . AND THE GATES OF HELL SHALL NOT PREVAIL AGAINST IT!!

s: But it would have served and still does serve a lot of men to have us believe in hell.

rk: Look at the present world of Civilized Man with the encroachment of the Satanic Few who wish to consolidate their power and enslave all of mankind via a NEW WORLD ORDER. You want HELL, you've got it. What has belief to do with it?

s: Because if we don't give them control of our lives and our wallets, they tell us we are going there. This control is cruel and has many spirits in fear of a "God of Love."

rk: Mind control can only exist in the HELL-BOUND Intellectual state of Consciousness. When you see the Truth of it for yourself, the key of Spiritual Liberation is yours to unlock the prison cell of a conditioned consciousness. In that timeless moment you will live IN THIS WORLD, BUT BE NOT OF IT.

rk: Then and there will the Second Coming of Christ be awaiting all those who will not give another ounce of their spiritual and physical energy to support HELL ON EARTH. Such is the spiritual nature of BOYCOTT, BOYCOTT, BOYCOTT!!

s: This control has worked ever since it was written, by men, into scripture and is still working.

rk: Ask yourself who employed and promoted the writers of scriptures. Worldly men of power, was/is it not? Are you getting a glimmer of TRUTH yet?

s: But I say that a heavenly parent that creates earthly parents who would not create a hell for their chidren, would not create one for us.

rk: When you cease your "fairy tale" existence, and from this moment and all moments thereafter never tell a lie, cheat, steal, exploit, initiate harm to another, love your neighbor as yourself, and then ultimately screw the rules which create fear and resentment in you, then and only then will you be a CHRIST who has recovered from his Satanic influenced Amnesia.

s: Because we are surely made "In his image."

surereal

rk: Screw the image which now binds your consciousness. Then you will understand HEAVEN ON EARTH.

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surereal: surereal777@MSN.com wrote:

Raymond Karczewski (arkent@arkenterprises.com) wrote:

s: I must say Ray, you sure do like to cut and snip. But as a secret agent, I say what the hell, to each his own. I'll just make a couple of points Ray then I'll let you have the last word, I know you like that.

rk: With that opening statement, you have already set the momentum for intellectual game-playing instead of engaging in serious dialogue, have you not? I bring this up only because it points out a dualistic and dubious intention.

rk: I do not address you, nor have I ever addressed your writings in the mode of competitive debate. I have merely pointed out Truthfully what was observed through direct (nondualistic) perception. That "atonement" with the unmistakable resonance of TRUTH mirrors dualistic deceptions and is the only shield one needs to navigate in the hellish world of dualistic thought.

rk: However, although felt at a deeper level of consciousness, such subtle, nondualistic vibration remains quite foreign to the superficial and gross words-and-images level of the Satanic ruled, conditioned, Intellectual mind; the mind which rules the actions and behaviors of civilized man.

rk: Perhaps you DO NOTE that my posts are unlike any others one sees on these political/religious newsgroups/forums. That fact is neither incidental nor it is accidental, for the essence of Truth, and not mere fragmented belief, has a definite and distinct vibrational "ring" to it, an unmistakable ring that ALL may perceive at some level of their consciousness. That is why my posts disturb so many and "raise so much hell" with those who are trapped at the peripheral, prison-cell level of Intellect.

rk: Our Spiritual Brother Jesus never committed anything to writing. If He did, such writings were destroyed. His words come to you from those who did not possess His level of Consciousness. As such, the expressions which followed in His name arose from storytellers who utilized myth and mysticism in order to hold hypnotic sway and condition gullible and suggestible (believing) people. In the degrading of such Truth from the nondualistic (holistic) to the dualistic (fragmented) intellectual realm, His message was diluted at least and misrepresented at most. Words attributed to Him were used by people of power in their Satanic acquisition of wealth and power over others -- the producers of such wealth who were/are kept dumbed-down and controllable. Thus arose the dichotomy of Masters and Slaves, the rulers and the ruled, the leaders and the led. Not much has changed despite the passage of time, has it?

s: First of all Jesus never yelled BOYCOTT against civil authority. He not only said "Give unto Ceasar things that are Ceasars," but picked a coin from a fish's mouth to not only pay His tribute, but also Peters. Jesus paid his taxes and Peter's and would want us to do the same.

rk: My point exactly. Are you repeating a belief based in myth or Truth? You already know the answer to that question. Warriors (government) and Witchdoctor (religions) have exercised force and mysticism to control lesser intellects since the beginning of time, i.e., Man's Fall from Grace.

rk: The simple fact is that our Spiritual Brother Jesus WAS NOT the ICON that He is looked upon as by those who worship His image today. He was a simple, itinerant Man of Truth. Did He not say, "I am the Life, the Truth, and the Way?"

rk: Likewise, I am a simple man of Truth. The fact is that ALL Christs are simple, integral Men and Women of Truth. But such simplicity is lost upon the complexity-oriented, Satanic, blindly-believing, political and religion-conditioned Intellect -- the mind of the LIVING DEAD.

s: Secondly, I feel honored that you didn't end your reply with your usual "HELL ISN'T IT,"

rk: Obviously, you are becoming aware of such permanent intellectual status yourself. No need for the obvious, is there?

s: I think you may be seeing just a glimmer of light. And lastly, my strong belief in Reincarnation was also a strong belief of a "spiritual brother" of yours, Mahatma Gandhi. Heaven isn't it,

surereal

rk: If one cannot stomach the crumbs of Truth, how can they partake of the sumptuous feast which awaits them beyond the level of words and images?

rk: I am not Mahatma Gandhi. I am not Jesus of Nazareth. Only Satanic Intellects engage in such go-nowhere comparisons when the Truth is staring them right in the face.

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Allen Crider (spam@swnews.net) wrote:

Raymond Karczewski (arkent@arkenterprises.com) wrote:

rk: >> Truth is there for all to see. It is not restricted to readers and thumpers of books. The Truth I speak of is Eternal, stands on its own, and is not born of OPT (other people's thoughts) books.

ac: >Ray, there is no such thing as truth... or even Truth. Let your beliefs become as pliable as a rubber ducky. The universe is what it is. It is impossible to grab the universe by the tail and believe you have the truth (or Truth).

rk: Look to your own statement above, Allen. There you will find your own compensatory rationalization for failing to understand that which you may easily "talk about" and find it impossible to "speak directly of." You, like all intellectuals, do not understand yourself beyond the measure of words, therefore you cannot understand TRUTH, and be "atone" with its unmistakable, irrefutable essence.

rk: Your words ring with intellectual authority, but lack the distinct and inimitable resonance which is the hallmark of Truth. They, your words, like so many others on these popular newsgroups/forums, reflect the politically/religiously-correct sound-byte type of conditioned thinking that pervades a society of corrupted spiritual beings and are therefore just so much illusory argumentative fluff. They appeal to the dualism driven ignorant, but fall flat when mirrored by the starkness of nondualistic Truth.

rk: The Truth is WHAT IS. It is whole, nondualistic, unfragmented. Its resonance lies both beyond and within the word, the symbol communicated by one human being to another at the level of Intellect. It is civilized man's failure to recognize that the IDEA of Truth is a mere reflection, a fragment, a part of the whole which is believed by an intellect to be the whole. That is the self-deception man has played upon himself since his "Fall from Grace," when he sought to be a "god" (the unhealthy ego) in his own right.

rk: >> One must eschew the dualistic path of spiritually blind and Fallen from Grace, lemming-like civilized (thought controlled) sheeple and surrender to holistic (nondualistic) Divine Intelligence, for therein lies all the answers which liberate the soul.

ac: >Spirituality has no place in government, unless you're looking to reincarnate some sort of heinous theocracy.

rk: See what I mean about jumping to errant conclusions? You like so many have missed the essence of my simple message. A message that, if understood in its utter simplicity, would sound the death knell for HELL ON EARTH.

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