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Thu, 21 Feb 2002 15:15:32 -0700
svanier (svanier@qwest.net) wrote:
"John E. M." (myersj@gactr.uga.edu) wrote:
Raymond Karczewski (arkent@arkenterprises.com) wrote:
j: > The great philosophies of the world usually promote detachment. This is for practical reasons.
-- John E. Myers, AEC
*****SPV.....And this is true above all else. But you still need the Master to show you the way. You step off the wheel and you must make you way in the unknown. Only the Master knows the way.
rk: NONSENSE!! The *nondualistic* Consciousness of a Christ, a Man of Truth, a Master over his own *dualistic* Intellect resonates beyond the limited realm of KNOWLEDGE. Such a Spiritual entity IS THE TRUTH, THE LIFE, AND THE WAY!
rk: KNOWLEDGE is the SATANIC WAY!
rk: Look around you. Who amongst you resonates with such holistic TRUTH? Who amongst you even UNDERSTAND the simplicity of what has just been said?
rk: In a Satanic ruled, thought based world, prideful SHEEPLE may be guided and directed to/through KNOWLEDGE; but in the process, all they shall experience is the exploitive act of having been FLEECED!
rk: Hell, isn't it?
Millions upon millions of conditioned "blind believers" are slumbering their lives away, awaiting the "Second Coming of Christ." They do so without ever having an inkling of understanding what that phrase means. They worship a MYTH while CHRISTS live among them.
The First (primary) Christ State of Consciousness is the State of Divine Intelligence, holistic and unbounded as it flows through the UNCONDITIONED consciousness of AWARE Men and Women of TRUTH.
MAN'S FALL FROM GRACE is the step away from such unbounded Consciousness and slow, incremental descent into the dark, divided, dualistic psychological HELL of the UNAWARE ruled by Seductive Satanic (Opposing) Intellectualism.
The Second Coming of CHRIST is the RESURRECTION OF SPIRIT -- the AWAKENING of the dualistic Hell-Bound to their own corrupted, conditioned state of UNAWARENESS.
2000 years ago a Christ (Man of Truth) said, "RESIST NOT EVIL."
Only the UNAWARE will resist EVIL.
The AWARE merely REMOVE SUPPORT for EVIL.
RESISTANCE leads to WAR -- BOYCOTT (withdrawal of support) leads to PEACE.
A Christ tells you here and now, IT IS TIME TO AWAKEN -- to utilize your God-given right to Self-Determination, YOUR FREE WILL!
Will you Resist or will you REMOVE YOUR support for the continuation of HELL ON EARTH?
SATANIC (Opposing/Intellect-bound) RESISTANCE has been the way of the world since Man's Fall from Grace.
Who amongst you are AWARE enough, prepared, and ready to INVITE the SECOND COMING OF CHRIST into your present state of CONSCIOUSNESS?
All that is necessary to RESTORE balance to OUR Human World may be found in my writings on http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialchst.htm
YES, my spiritual Brothers and Sisters, IT IS AS SIMPLE AS THAT!!
The United States of America has already gone through ONE BLOODY REVOLUTION. Need It go through another?
Read the comments of our Country's Founding Fathers below. See if you recognize TODAY in the politics of YESTERYEAR?
Excerpts taken from The Declaration of Independence of the Thirteen Colonies In CONGRESS, July 4, 1776
"When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation."
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness."
"That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."
".... mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. "
"He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures. "
rk: (Anyone recall the recent Patriot Bill and its attack upon our Bill of Rights, UNREAD yet PASSED by our elected Legislators?)
"He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands."
rk: (Open borders, U.N. Land Grab, rendering of Free Men into Peonage by attacking property rights.)
"He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people, and eat out their substance."
rk: (Anybody checked out the increased Police/Military appropriations and deployment concerning Homeland Security since the Attack upon the World Trade Center on Sept. 11, 2002?)
"He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies, without the consent of our legislatures."
rk: (Anyone keeping count of the foreign U.N. Troops now on American Soil while American Boys are being dispersed all over the world for military interventions? Bring our Boys Home. Let them protect their OWN FAMILIES.)
"He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power."
rk: WAKE UP, AMERICA -- Look around you!)
"He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
rk: (Abolition of the U.S. Constitution as the Supreme Law of the Land. Adoption of U.N. Policies in the Political Arena. Maritime Law USURPING Constitutional Law in our Judicial System.)
"For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
rk: See U.N. Troops above.
"For protecting them by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
rk: (Waco, Ruby Ridge, Oklahoma City, World Trade Center!!!)
"For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:"
rk: (Speaks for itself.)
"For depriving us in many cases of the benefits of Trial by Jury: "
rk: (Speaks for itself.)
"For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:"
rk: (Proposed WORLD COURT proceedings now in the U.N. Works.)
"For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
rk: (Unalienable Rights, U.S. Constitution, Bill of Rights?)
"He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to complete the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of cruelty and perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation."
rk: (See above: U.N. Troops on American Soil.)
"He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands."
rk: (Examine Military Use of Our Own Sons and Daughters against American Citizenry in their own Homeland.)
"In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms. Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people."
rk: (Anybody remember President George W. Bush's "telling remark" about a desire to be a tyrant?)
rk: Learn the lessons experienced by the few who founded our country. DO NOT REPEAT THEM!
rk: Pay close attention to the RABBLE ROUSING OF certain Patriot COMMUNICATORS who are merely shilling for the NWO.
rk: DO NOT RESIST EVIL!
rk: DO NOT SUPPORT IT -- BOYCOTT IT!!
rk: THE SECOND COMING OF CHRIST IS HERE, NOW, IN THIS VERY MOMENT.
rk: Who amongst you ARE PREPARED to RECEIVE IT?
"Radio Guyana International" (info@radioguyana.co.uk) wrote:
Raymond Karczewski (arkent@arkenterprises.com) wrote:
At 08:57 AM 2/25/02 -0800, you wrote:
To: arkent@arkenterprises.com
d: Ray am going to allow your posts to remain but anything further on or about religion will be deleted.
humble regards,
d'Israeli
uitvlugt81@yahoo.com
Forum Notification
arkent@arkenterprises.com
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 15:23:53 -0800 (PST)
http://pub32.bravenet.com/forum/show.php?usernum=2670682617
Name: Raymond Karczewski
IP: 63.164.175.10
Subject: SECOND COMING OF CHRIST: Divine Intelligence Requires BOYCOTT of NWO!!
rk: Do what you are going to do.
rk: You advertise your board as "UITVLUG81 PROPAGANDA PRESS FORUM"
rk: A PROPAGANDA PRESS FORUM???
rk: Your message to your bulletin board contributors states the following: "Please follow 'general' rules of decency and decorum. Stick to substance and no personal attacks please. With that said, post away pilgrims!"
rk: Can there be any question that my posts resonate SUBSTANCE?
rk: My posts to your board DO NOT constitute PERSONAL ATTACKS!!
rk: So where is the problem?
rk: My posts are IN NO WAY Religion oriented.
rk: As a matter of course, my posts routinely expose the prolific and pervasive MIND CONTROL attacks upon the mass mind at both the political and religious levels of government and media information management.
rk: This is the third warning you've given me threatening to delete my posts because you PERCEIVE them to be RELIGIOUS in nature. You have previously cited MSNBC's message rejecting my posts adding you did not wish to appear to be of the same bent.
rk: That's quite a shocker considering it emanates from one who promotes his BOARD as a "propaganda press forum".
rk: My posts are being routinely censored from a host of bulletin boards and USENET newsgroups on the Internet.
rk: Big Brother is operating on the Internet HERE AND NOW, not in some DISTANT FUTURE.
rk: Because of the constant and continuous assault upon my expression of TRUTH, my Right to Free Speech is merely the "canary in the coal mine" in a deadly conditioned, psychological environment which is choking off liberties and freedoms in the United States and elsewhere in the world.
rk: As such, I post my comments wherever I can, AND LET THE DEVIL TAKE THE HINDMOST!!
rk: If it is your wish to host a bulletin board titled "Propaganda Press Forum", then threaten CENSORSHIP if my contributions do not conform to your particular propaganda bent, well then, DO WHAT YOU WILL.
Millions upon millions of conditioned "blind believers" are slumbering their lives away, awaiting the "Second Coming of Christ." They do so without ever having an inkling of understanding what that phrase means. They worship a MYTH while CHRISTS live among them.
The First (primary) Christ State of Consciousness is the State of Divine Intelligence, holistic and unbounded as it flows through the UNCONDITIONED consciousness of AWARE Men and Women of TRUTH.
MAN'S FALL FROM GRACE is the step away from such unbounded Consciousness and slow, incremental descent into the dark, divided, dualistic psychological HELL of the UNAWARE ruled by Seductive Satanic (Opposing) Intellectualism.
The Second Coming of CHRIST is the RESURRECTION OF SPIRIT -- the AWAKENING of the dualistic Hell-Bound to their own corrupted, conditioned state of UNAWARENESS.
2000 years ago a Christ (Man of Truth) said, "RESIST NOT EVIL."
Only the UNAWARE will resist EVIL.
The AWARE merely REMOVE SUPPORT for EVIL.
RESISTANCE leads to WAR -- BOYCOTT (withdrawal of support) leads to PEACE.
A Christ tells you here and now, IT IS TIME TO AWAKEN -- to utilize your God-given right to Self-Determination, YOUR FREE WILL!
Will you Resist or will you REMOVE YOUR support for the continuation of HELL ON EARTH?
SATANIC (Opposing/Intellect-bound) RESISTANCE has been the way of the world since Man's Fall from Grace.
Who amongst you are AWARE enough, prepared, and ready to INVITE the SECOND COMING OF CHRIST into your present state of CONSCIOUSNESS?
All that is necessary to RESTORE balance to OUR Human World may be found in my writings on http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialchst.htm
YES, my spiritual Brothers and Sisters, IT IS AS SIMPLE AS THAT!!
The United States of America has already gone through ONE BLOODY REVOLUTION. Need It go through another?
Read the comments of our Country's Founding Fathers below. See if you recognize TODAY in the politics of YESTERYEAR?
Excerpts taken from The Declaration of Independence of the Thirteen Colonies In CONGRESS, July 4, 1776
"When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation."
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness."
"That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."
".... mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. "
"He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures. "
rk: (Anyone recall the recent Patriot Bill and its attack upon our Bill of Rights, UNREAD yet PASSED by our elected Legislators?)
"He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands."
rk: (Open borders, U.N. Land Grab, rendering of Free Men into Peonage by attacking property rights.)
"He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people, and eat out their substance."
rk: (Anybody checked out the increased Police/Military appropriations and deployment concerning Homeland Security since the Attack upon the World Trade Center on Sept. 11, 2002?)
"He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies, without the consent of our legislatures."
rk: (Anyone keeping count of the foreign U.N. Troops now on American Soil while American Boys are being dispersed all over the world for military interventions? Bring our Boys Home. Let them protect their OWN FAMILIES.)
"He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power."
rk: WAKE UP, AMERICA -- Look around you!)
"He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
rk: (Abolition of the U.S. Constitution as the Supreme Law of the Land. Adoption of U.N. Policies in the Political Arena. Maritime Law USURPING Constitutional Law in our Judicial System.)
"For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
rk: See U.N. Troops above.
"For protecting them by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
rk: (Waco, Ruby Ridge, Oklahoma City, World Trade Center!!!)
"For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:"
rk: (Speaks for itself.)
"For depriving us in many cases of the benefits of Trial by Jury: "
rk: (Speaks for itself.)
"For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:"
rk: (Proposed WORLD COURT proceedings now in the U.N. Works.)
"For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
rk: (Unalienable Rights, U.S. Constitution, Bill of Rights?)
"He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to complete the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of cruelty and perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation."
rk: (See above: U.N. Troops on American Soil.)
"He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands."
rk: (Examine Military Use of Our Own Sons and Daughters against American Citizenry in their own Homeland.)
"In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms. Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people."
rk: (Anybody remember President George W. Bush's "telling remark" about a desire to be a tyrant?)
rk: Learn the lessons experienced by the few who founded our country. DO NOT REPEAT THEM!
rk: Pay close attention to the RABBLE ROUSING OF certain Patriot COMMUNICATORS who are merely shilling for the NWO.
rk: DO NOT RESIST EVIL!
rk: DO NOT SUPPORT IT -- BOYCOTT IT!!
rk: THE SECOND COMING OF CHRIST IS HERE, NOW, IN THIS VERY MOMENT.
rk: Who amongst you ARE PREPARED to RECEIVE IT?
rk: In the beginning of the thread "feeling awake," Kimberland asked the simple question, "What does it feel like to be awake?"
The question remains unexamined.
One only need look at the tangents the thread has since taken and the divisive quality it has acquired.
Are not "feeling awake" and "being awake" of vastly different vibrations? Is not the latter a vibration of holistic energy which therefore encompasses the lesser vibration of "feeling awake?"
Certainly this is a topic which calls for serious dialogue. What say, John, Bruce, Eric, Pete, and all others interested in observing moment-by-moment the unfolding spirit of Truth as it manifests itself? Isn't it time to allow Truth to tell us its story? Isn't it time for serious men/women to put away the "things of spiritual childhood," the tendency to debate and compete for whatever temporal pleasures such nonsense provides? Is it not time for men and women of "good will" to speak their Truth? Is it not also time to bypass the constant traps set by those of noisy intellect whose only purpose is to obstruct, obfuscate, and misdirect the momentum of Truth as it unfolds in the moment?
Let us begin by examining the energy of awareness--awakeness. What does it mean for one to "be awake" and not merely dreamily "talk about" theories of being awake? To do so, must we not speak only of our own self- realized Truth without adding to or detracting from it? It is so easy for conditioned man to fall into the comfortable but corrupting habit of living according to the borrowed dead words of "others.".
The civilized world is a thought-based world populated by dead men. Men who, through the seduction of a power-promising, dualistic intellect, have eschewed the living energy of Truth as evidenced in the timeless moment of Now in favor of serving and worshipping the false god of knowledge which rules consciousness in the dead "aftermoment."
Through the medium of conditioning, such dead men operate from blind belief. They emulate, pretend, and parrot the "apparent" living (but actually dead aftermoment based) words of others long absent from this time-bound plane of existence. It matters not to mechanical believers that the dead authors of these words may or may not have had direct experiential resonance of that "living holistic energy of Truth."
So let us set aside the words of the dead past and allow the timeless holistic (holy) spirit of intelligence to guide us and form our words in the living moment. Anything less is sure to lead to the trap of one's own psychologically conditioned intellectual projections. That is the seduction that all knowledge bound men cannot escape. In their ignorance they do not see that they are the authors of their own thoughts. In their ignorance they do not see that the thought that is habitually reinforced soon becomes the god they come to worship. That is the enslavement of man through his own thought process. That is the nature of mind control.
Civilizations, ancient and modern alike, have risen and fallen under the same cycle of illusion.
Meditation is the out-of-time moment of silence which allows a fleeting liberating flash of insight to unburden a consciousness enslaved to the intellect. It is the simple, holistic energy of Truth which stops the momentum of aftermoment-based, linear, fragmented thought.
In a pristine moment of Self-Realization, one comes to realize the presence of a timeless, multidimensional consciousness which has always been with us but overshadowed by the linear time-bound conditioning we were subjected to as youngsters. That matrix of dualistic thought is the barrier to the realization of Truth, here and now. It is the modern day characterization of the Biblical adage, "the Sins of the Fathers shall be visited upon their Sons."
Truth is Love. Truth is Life. Truth is the Way. Truth IS!!!
All else is a corruption, is it not? Why so? Simply because all else is found in the aftermoment of a dualistic thought-based intellect. The energy of the dualistic intellect is friction, plain and simple. Such friction arises from the inherent compartmentalized fragmentation and divisiveness of a contradictory intellect.
To be awake is to "BE HERE NOW!" To feel awake is quite simply "almost but no cigar," wouldn't you say? What say you Bruce, John, Eric, Pete? Jump in here.
It's time to awaken our sleeping brothers and sisters from their "feel-good" hypnotic slumber.
Peter: Frankly I think that your "Horatio on the Bridge" stance while facing all comers in the squared circle is an attribute that is not easily dismissed by those who witness your taking on all who dare to challenge the veracity of your postings. Fill the ring with those who are in agreement with your posts plays into those hands who have alleged without any proof or success that you are the leader of a cult from whom you draw your resource and energy.
Peter: Deny them that lie. My belief is that any kind of dialogue takes away from the real issues that your post lay before all who have been following the action...especially if those who log on as being in harmony with your posts are not able to do justice to the concepts for many reasons, such as poor writing skills, inadequate grammar, or the inability to express the greater realities with spoken or written word... I recognize that your posts are not the result of intellection but rather your body becomes a mere physical conduit for the concepts that come from beyond your own human limitations.
rk: Pete, thanks for the comments. However, the time is now for the momentum of the last three years to be broken so that we as humanity may move on to a "new consciousness." In relationship with others on these newsgroups, I have amply demonstrated, through the pushing of conditioned "buttons," what the Hell of the "old consciousness" looks like. Isn't it time that we move on?
rk: At the grossest level of dualistic consciousness, the AFAB bullies have revealed the energy of Hell in quite unmistakable fashion. They operate through the corrupt medium of misdirection and deception. They constantly create "red herrings" of misdirection by skirting the essence of my posts and choose rather the tactic of attacking the messenger with deception, libel, forgery, ridicule, and character assassination. Unable to deal with the inarguable Truth contained in my posts, their only function is to misdirect reader attention onto dark and destructive tangents. But their ignorance is all they have succeeded in demonstrating with their impotent actions in these past three years.
rk: There are others who frequent these groups who see and understand the Truth of what I am saying, yet regard stepping personally into the "nest of vipers" with great trepidation. Mine is the privilege of revealing the "divine" protection afforded one who speaks the Truth in a deceptive world.
rk: It's time to awaken our sleeping brothers and sisters from their "feel-good" hypnotic slumber.
Bruce: Ray, I wish we could, wouldn't that be wondrous? The fact of the matter is that such an awakening is in other than human hands
rk: Are we not, as Sons and Daughters of God, instruments of such Supreme Intelligence?
Bruce: Yes.
rk: As such, is it really out of our hands?
Bruce: Yes, the actual awakening is a combination of receptivity and grace, our role is modest -- we are, so to speak, a pointing finger. We cannot will that the pointing be fully taken, it may be ignored by the closed-minded or there may be obsession by the empty-headed on the finger to the exclusion of that to which it points. Love bids us point, but it is a "bread upon the waters" act with no assurance of or attachment to outcome.
rk: Agreed. The problem lies in the limitation of linear language at the gross level of a fragmented intellect which attempts to distill the vastness of the oceanic multidimensional essence of holistic intelligence into the thimble of its own conceptual projections.
Bruce: -- but of course there is a task at hand for "sleeping brothers and sisters," and that's to get out of the way.
rk: Agreed. How is that to be conveyed to the encrusted, shut eyes of the long slumbering?
Bruce: As expressed above, only the "long slumbering" whose sleep includes a hint that they aren't awake are likely to pay attention. Pounding the tree trunk energetically may shake fruit to the ground, but it does not impart the requisite ripeness, that state of readiness is not under our control.
rk: But when the world of man is burning,
Bruce: It has been burning for all of recorded history, this particular millennial turn is an arbitrary marker coinciding with a mammoth scale of suffering and new technical means to increase or alleviate its physical manifestations. The urgency seen by Buddha, Jesus, and in our own time Krishnamurti, is of the same ilk that you and I see. A burning world is the inevitable result of dualistic consciousness, be it labeled secular or religious.
rk: The question remains, will those not yet ready to awaken from their self-destructive trance state resent their being rescued from self-annihilation?
Bruce: You bet they will, they are enjoying the dream of "self- improvement," "principled living," "vicarious atonement," and whatever other substitute for the truly sacred they've settled for. A "rude awakening" from such a reverie is rarely appreciated, and the usual reaction is resentment followed by a rapid return to dreamland.
rk: It is a matter of time and timelessness and the love of the spiritually sighted for the spiritually blind, is it not?
Bruce: Of course it is, I'm just pointing out that love's work is non-deterministic and no result is vouchsafed.
Bruce: Live a day, an hour, a minute, even a fleeting instant outside the box of conditioning, and when thought returns as it must let it be as a faithful scribe and determined communicator rather than an engine of comparison, deduction, association, and inference.
Bruce: Gil asked "what does it feel like" and the simple answer is that "it" is indescribable, because it is by its very nature untouchable, let alone graspable, by thought -- it is the role and position of thought as the default perceptual filter of consciousness that prevents the direct experience of the truly sacred that theists call "God."
rk: Yes, yet it is closer to the core of one's being than the outer peripheral thoughts one has been conditioned to identify with.
Bruce: Closer even than that, it is* "the core of one's being!"
rk: Yes. The same Intelligence operating through our words has distilled the essence of "beingness" into further clarity even though appearing to arise from the multiplicity of Bruce and Raymond. That is the true embracing nature of dialogue, the antithesis of dualistic divisive debate.
Bruce: The reaction of thought-driven, rote-conditioned "minds" to such an assertion seems to fall generally into two camps.
rk: Ah yes--the dualism of description overwhelms the nondualism of direct perception when the insatiable appetite of the hungry blind feed upon the peripheral letter of the word and miss the essence the words reflect. In your comments above, I see that you point with words. Is not that the very essence of the term "necessary evil?"
Bruce: Absolutely, communication is a child of thought, and in most cases thought is the master and assumes this is the case in the communications of others. Thought in service is anathema to thought caught up in the delusion of mastery.
rk: Words, the very means required to communicate at this gross level of intellect, become the obstacles themselves to such communication. I wonder how many are able to see this. Those asleep hear the same words, but with "closed spiritual eyes." They remain at the level of belief, never seeing what it is that they are believing in.
Bruce: Of course -- with thought's englobement of consciousness in place all there is is "the level of belief." Thought is both the believer and the concoctor of beliefs!
rk: Yes, both Master and Slave. God and godless. The illusion of "Me and Thee." Submit these illusions before the eternal Mirror of Truth, and the disintegration of the nonholistic images ultimately reveals the essence of Love that is the Oneness of All, and "THOU ART THAT I AM."
Bruce: In the absence of dualistic juxtaposition, there is only love. Everything else we call love is a tiny subset at best.
Bruce: The first comprises (s)he who cannot conceive of human consciousness without the constant interpretive intervention of thought and says "impossible" with great assurance. This is reaction of the unreceptive, of those whose conditioning prevents open- mindedness. The second comprises those "minds" whose conditioning does not lack receptivity but immediately demand to be taught "how" -- and are willing to give almost anything, including their very personal sovereignty, to follow and learn "how," the "mind" bespeaking gullibility or empty-headedness which yesterday followed someone else and tomorrow may well follow yet another.
rk: Yes, both appearing to be quite dissimilar, but deeply, fundamentally, of the same vibrational realm of intellect.
Bruce: Splendid observation, Ray. Both the devoted intellectual and the "New Age" spiritual dilettante are thought-driven mentalities, *much* more similar than they are different. Both operate from belief.
Bruce: Between the two camps is the narrow way that is receptive without gullibility, the way that questions both its established conditioning and the unfamiliar assertions of others with equal sincerity and determination to accept only the unvarnished truth, regardless of what it is and what it may imply or cost. Surely it is to these "brothers and sisters," not quite "sleeping" but already questioning whether they are awake, that love bids us speak -- and just as surely these men and women will not settle for a second-hand hint of "What does it feel like," but rather will step off into profound silence and solitude to meet the unknown head-on.
rk: Thank you, Bruce . . . well said!
Bruce: You're welcome, Ray, thanks for the opportunity.
Judi Rhodes, (judirhodes@earthlink.net) wrote:
Raymond Karczewski (arkent@arkenterprises.com) wrote: ****
jr: > Hi Ray, nice to hear back from you. I'm fine. I'm not on usenet hardly anymore, Bruce and James seem to be keeping an eye on things there, I have my own mailing list that I keep busy with, along with working and regular life and all - The End Of The Rope Ranch, pretty catchy name, eh? :-)
jr: > Bruce is co-moderator with me.
rk: Well, at least Bruce and James still have access to USENET. My posts no longer get through, even though I post them DAILY to all the OLD groups. (SEE http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialchst.htm#Censored )
rk: My site is now under constant attack by hackers and mail bomb campaigns. I recently had to change servers. I guess they couldn't handle me aboveboard on the newsgroups/forums, so all they are left with are behind the scenes "dirty tricks" campaigns.
jr: > We have over 100 people, I try to keep the list restricted to those that are sincere, no idiots and people with "attitudes" allowed in other words. You might want to read the description on the home page, I'm sure you'd like it. Several realizers are also on the list.
rk: Judy, I am reluctant to get involved in email lists, especially with the present mail bomb campaign by the disinfo crowd who are forging subscriptions in my name to unwanted groups/sites.
jr: Oh, I also got a couple of articles of mine published in the Meditation Society of America's newsletter, several thousand readership, goes around the world, hard copy. I was in the "guest editorial" spot last time. Now if only I could get paid for it. :-)
rk: Congratulations!!
jr: > How's everything up there in Oregon with you? How's the book sales going?
rk: Book Sales? What's that?
rk: It would seem that a Living Christ CANNOT GIVE TRUTH AWAY at the present level of CIVILIZED human consciousness.
jr: > Don't see you posting too much on 4th way? Where you been hanging out?
rk: Nothing has changed at this end. I am still doing what I have done for the last seven years. The change is in the tactics of those who have been bent on stopping my posts on USENET over the years.
rk: It signals a danger to this country. Even the BLIND can feel the noose tightening around the U.S. CONSTITUTION. When that goes, this country is HISTORY!
rk: My approach to the present crisis has been to awaken people to their higher spiritual level of consciousness, which would, of course, make short work of the present superficial political level of indoctrination/mind control which has the capacity to strike fear in the minds and hearts of fallen men/women.
rk: The Spiritual MIRRORING continues, and the New World Order doesn't have a CHANCE IN HELL of succeeding if the populace will only awaken to their collective power through the simple act of BOYCOTT.
rk: RESISTANCE leads to DEATH and DESTRUCTION, BOYCOTT leads to PEACE.
rk: Since my posts NO LONGER reach the the consciousness of those "who have the spiritual eyes to see and ears to hear" on USENET newsgroups/forums. I invite all who are in accord with the TRUTH expressed in my articles on my website/bulletin board at http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialchst.htm to copy them and redistribute them widely to the newsgroups/forums.
rk: A favorite ploy of mind controllers, be it political/religious, is to DIVIDE and CONQUER a population, to split humanity into warring factions, to isolate and attack. They can focus upon the words of ONE man quite easily, but they cannot cope with the collective of ALL Spiritually-inclined FREE MEN/WOMEN asserting their God-Given Sovereignty.
rk: That's the simple key to it all, judi. Let A SEA OF HUMANITY stand up as INDIVIDUALS and assert their sovereignty, withdraw their ACTUAL support of the tyrannical system which would enslave them, then watch as the impotency of goverment/corporate structure begins to reveal itself.
rk: Time is running out for this country. All we have to do is STAND UP as individual CHILDREN OF GOD and send the Satanic elitists PACKING. That, my spiritual sister, is the SECOND COMING OF CHRIST.
jr: Did you hear about what's his name, I forgot, dying, the fellow in the wheel chair that always gave you such a bad time?
rk: You mean glen quarnstrom? Can you not see that USENET is better for his absence?
Judi
http://www.users.uniserve.com/~samuel/judi-1.htm
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheEndOfTheRopeRanch
You have heard "Resist Not Evil," yet even the dullest amongst us can see that RESISTANCE to tyranny is being promoted daily on an endless schedule of Broadcast Media Talk Shows by New World Order Shills operating under the cover of Patriotism.
Coincidental? Do you really think so?
At the Satanic level of Leadership which requires fragmentation and resistance, it is well known that those who control the money make the rules, and those who make the rules win the game.
Resistance is required to transfer one's personal power to others through Satanic Mind Control Techniques. Without it, the power relinquished to others, which fuels the fires of Hell on earth through SATANIC dualism, is not. Resistance always gives power to that which is resisted. Who amongst you can SEE this?
BOYCOTT, on the other hand, TRANSFERS no power at all to another. It destroys the momentum already in place which has factored in such EXPECTED REACTIONS.
BOYCOTT is an nondualistic, holistic action, not a dualistic reaction. It RESTORES one's lost energy, balance, and Sovereignty. Through lack of support, the power of SATANISM shrivels and disappears as the illusion it is.
I have been writing for seven years on the Internet about SATANIC mind control, and more recently the loss of America's Sovereignty via incremental conditioning. I have exposed through nondualism-based (Truth) mirroring, such SATANIC techniques intended to destroy my credibility by government/media disinformation Agents who now have a firm grip upon the control of the information flow on USENET newsgroups.
These disinformation agents have used every tactic in the book to discredit me. (Examples may be examined in articles (marked ***) on http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialchst.htm
As you can see, they have failed. The "gates of Hell have not prevailed."
Many are wondering what has happened to the posts of Raymond Karczewski -- one who has the audacity, or perhaps the madness to call himself Atone with Christ Consciousness.
The simple answer to that question can also be found on http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialchst.htm, for presently that is the only place on the Internet my posts have been allowed to remain. Through behind the scenes technical manipulations, my posts have been totally blocked from appearing on USENET newsgroups and other forums, even though I post daily to them.
As in other times in human history, mankind has now arrived at a MOMENT OF TRUTH. That moment of Truth is a crisis of Consciousness. No more, no less.
Whether mankind awakens to live life on earth as was meant -- as Spiritually Sighted, Sovereign Human beings -- or whether mankind continues to live life as blind, reactionary, mind controlled Slaves to Satanic Leadership is the simple issue at hand.
All that can be expected at the present Political level of SATANICALLY-ruled, dualism-based intellectual consciousness -- the reactionary realm which governs the lives of civilized but UNAWARE human beings and which daily promotes and encourages RESISTANCE TO EVIL on government controlled media -- is only death, destruction, and enslavement for survivors. Many will perish never knowing what life was all about.
The Solution to the present crisis of consciousness is unequivocally BOYCOTT.
No Arms. No Fight. No Revolution. No Bloodshed.
Just simple BOYCOTT.
In such a clear moment of insight, the simple Truth shall ring out in the collective consciousness of the masses -- "Hell NO, not another ounce of my life's energy will I give to support such SATANIC INSANITY!"
Do that, and the NEW WORLD ORDER is HISTORY.
PS: By the way, this will be posted on all of the usual newsgroups and forums to which I post daily. Let's see if it reaches the light of day.
Date: 03/16/02 07:36:47 AM
surereal777@MSN.com wrote:
Raymond Karczewski (arkent@arkenterprises.com) wrote:
Full Thread may be read at http://pub41.bravenet.com/forum/show.php?usernum=3449244031
rk: >> STOP THINKING. Open your eyes. Be Aware. Leave behind the limitation of Intellect. Take the Step BEYOND. There you will find the answers you each seek.
rk: >> Just as the thimble cannot hold the ocean, neither can the dead (aftermoment-based), finite SATANIC (Opposer) Intellect grasp that which is beyond its capacity -- the INFINITE.
rk: >> You each have fallen prey to the Satanic seduction of being ruled by a fragmented Intellect with its pretentious posture of the part being able to contain the WHOLE!!!
rk: >> That which you seek is so close and yet SO FAR, as long as Intellect rules the exploration.
s: > Hi Ray and welcome to the conversation. I can see by your reply that you and I have two different perspectives on our world and God.
rk: Such is the case in a world of multiplicity.
s: > Since you have given your perspective, allow me to give mine. I believe that as children of God, we are made up of Body, mind and spirit. Each body we inhabit is our vehicle for living in this earthly reality and it should be treated with respect and taken care of.
rk: On that we are "At One" in understanding.
s: > The spirit, I believe, is our eternal presence. Created by God to be always in touch with him and his love. Now we come to part of our make up that you have addressed, the mind. The mind, our intellect as you correctly put it, is a very important part of our existence and our understanding of the nature of God.
rk: Only as it is required at the dualistic level of concept and language, a venue which is eternally flawed as a means of communication of that nondualistic ESSENCE which is beyond limitation. I must point out that what you have just expressed in dualistic terms is the "OPPOSITE" of Truth.
rk: The mind, or more accurately, the Intellect is the instrument which is responsible for Man's "Fall from Grace."
rk: It, the Intellect, has caused man to relinquish his ability of direct perception; i.e., atonement with the nondualistic NONTECHNICAL essence of Divine Intelligence -- otherwise labeled by man as GOD -- and to install itself as the the False "god" of KNOWLEDGE, which has ruled TECHNICALLY driven "Fallen Men" since the dawn of Civilization.
rk: TRUTH, LOVE, GOD is NONDUALISTIC LIVING in the eternal moment of NOW.
rk: The IDEA of Truth, Love, God is merely an aftermoment-based (DEAD) dualistic reflection based in knowledge. It is the promise made by the seductive ruler of a Dualistic realm, i.e., SATAN, which accounts for all the HELL that has existed and continues to exist in thought-based organized societies since the first Civilization.
s: > Our intellect, on a conscious level and a subconscious level, is the part of us that learns.
rk: Dualistic Knowledge, and Intellect certainly have their place in the resolution of Technical Problems experienced in a technical-oriented world. However, only AWARENESS and DIRECT PERCEPTION, both holistic in their essence, are able to navigate in the multidimensional realms of a living consciousness well beyond the limitation of dead repeatable, manageable, manipulatable knowledge.
rk: It is Spiritual Discernment which allows Sons and Daughters of God, CHRISTS, to determine intellectual applicability in the resolution of problems experienced by a confused (dualism-bound) spiritual entity, i.e., most CIVILIZED HUMAN BEINGS. By your own words, surereal, you have fallen prey to such seduction, and loudly and pridefully herald it. Unfortunately, you've got it all BASSACKWARDS.
rk: Please do not react by citing a multitude of others who agree with you and support you in your position. I give you that fact -- the fact that millions upon millions have lived and died in ignorance, from the cradle to the grave, while giving themselves in service to SATAN, the false god of knowledge. I only ask that you open your eyes and meditate upon HOW MANY CHRISTS have existed at the same time, and how many people were AWARE of these CHRISTS during their time on earth.
s: > We learn from a surpreme teacher the meaning of being God like towards him and towards each other.
rk: When you drop the Satanic Scales which cover your eyes to the LIVING TRUTH, you shall understand that TRUTH alone is the Supreme Teacher. Anything less than holistic TRUTH is SATANIC in its rendered effect of confusion, conflict, and suffering upon human consciousness.
s: > Don't you see Ray, that if we shut down our intellect, we shut down our learning and become less God like in nature.
rk: Tis a positive sounding concept, but HAVE YOU ACTUALLY TESTED THE TRUTH OF IT FOR YOURSELF before promoting it to others?
s: > Even worse, we become robotlike, and I feel God wants learners not robots.
rk: Again, surereal, you have it BASSACKWARDS. It is repetition of KNOWLEDGE, i.e., HABIT, which robotizes human beings. You have the words. But you DO NOT SEE DEEPLY what you say.
s: > Remember Ray, the first thing Hitler asked of the German people was shut down their intellect and let him do their thinking for them.
rk: Isn't that what is going on at the present time? Millions upon Millions have been conditioned to rely upon their SATANIC leadership (most of whom are pridefully ignorant of their present diminished spiritual status) and have been required to relinquish their Sovereignty as whole Spiritual entities to be transformed through a steady incremental conditioning program which has rendered them into helpless, hopeless, willing slaves and material producing chattel (sheeple).
rk: Are you getting the picture yet?
s: > Its when we shut down our intellectual connection with God and switch this connection to other men, we are in danger of arriving at a Jonestown or a Waco Texas.
rk: Is that not, in fact, what we have done? We have closed our spiritual eyes of direct perception and are now finding ourselves blind spiritual entities relegated to navigating sightlessly through life while depending upon the SATANIC intellect conditioned by Outer Authorities.
rk: There is no difference between Hitler's Germany and the present unlawful Authority which has gripped control over the present day Constitutional Republic of the United States of America.
s: > I fully belive God wants us to stay intellectually connected with him and him alone.
rk: Forgive me Surereal but beliefs are a dime a dozen. Everyone has them. Belief is the lazy man's Truth.
s: > The mind can bring us closer to God or further away from him, depending on how we focus it.
rk: Or so you BELIEVE, eh? Surereal, can you directly perceive that you and I are not even in the same BALLPARK!
s: > If we take our minds off of God, then our minds will wonder away from him, but our minds will still be working. Think about Ray, if God would wants us to shut down our intellect, he wouldn't have gave us minds at all.
rk: Ponder this, surereal. UTILIZE:
rk: AWARENESS -- NONTECHNICAL.
rk: THOUGHT -- TECHNICAL.
rk: Understand when to use thought and when to use awareness. That simple shift of consciousness is ALL the difference between HEAVEN and HELL.
s: > I look forward to your reply,
surereal
Date: 03/16/02 06:38:36 PM
surereal777@MSN.com wrote:
Raymond Karczewski (arkent@arkenterprises.com) wrote:
s: > Hello again Ray and I must say when you join a conversation, you do it in a paranoid way.
rk: What happened surereal, is your "schmooze control" out of order, or do you just have a short fuse when your illusions are confronted by inarguable TRUTH?
s: > Relax a little, you mentioned satan so many times, I kind of think he likes the publicity.
rk: SATAN is not a "He," SATAN is an IT!! So much for any chance of coming to any UNDERSTANDING at the subtle levels of Consciousness, eh?
s: > Remember Ray, bad publicity is better then no publicity and you sure are giving him alot of it.
rk: surereal, you sound like a PR TYPE. Are you in fact one of them thar disinformation agents whose sub rosa purpose is to control the flow of conversation on these forums?
s: > I just have three comments at this point. First of all, I stand by every word I typed.
rk: Easy to say for one who does not put his TRUE IDENTITY behind his words.
s: > I say that God does not and never will want robot believers.
rk: I agree. But then how do you explain the millions, nay, billions, of robotic, mind controlled, blind believers throughout the Ages?
s: > You want me not to think but to "open my eyes and be aware." Don't you know Ray that without thinking one cannot even open one's eyes yet be aware of anything.
rk: Perhaps you'll explain that Intellectual conclusion in more than just a trite statement?
s: > Secondly, I will take your advice and not mention any names of any other people who might believe as I do. But I will mention a few people who do not believe as I do; David Karesh and Jim Jones.
rk: I suggest you have no UNDERSTANDING of either men. You merely are voicing a conclusion based on media fed information you have "believed" about such men. Perhaps in that one shining example of your own offering, you can see the ILLUSION of KNOWLEDGE and its impact upon the blindly-believing, conditioned ignoramuses of the world. Hell, isn't it?
s: > And thirdly Ray, if you want to shut down your intellect, all well and good. But before you do, please, PLEASE, learn how to spell the word backwards.
Your friend,
surereal
rk: Surely even you can discern the essence of BASSACKWARD is not the same as the essence of "backward." So much for discernment, eh?!!
rk: surereal, in these brief interchanges, you and I have revealed ourselves to the world. You close with a disingenuous signature "Your Friend, surereal", May I say that, as a six-foot-two Pole, I wouldn't touch you with a ten-foot friend.
Date: 03/16/02 09:50:31 PM
surereal777@MSN.com wrote:
s: It sure is real talking to you Ray. And I do like the way you do come around to proving my points. I say your paranoid and you call me a "disinformation agent." I say you give satan way to much publicity and you prove it by even knowing satan's lack of gender. I think Ray that you know more about satan then satan knows about satan.
s: God, I couldn't even use a pronoun in that last sentence! I think Ray that maybe you should think a little more on God's ways then satan and it's ways. But I forgot Ray, you cannot think on God's ways because you have shut down your intellect to God's ways. Maybe thats why you know so much about satan. Again proving my point; That shutting your mind to God can indeed spiritually take you further away from him. As for the two robot makers that I mentioned previously, well what can I say, we all pick our own heros. Again Ray, shutting your mind to God has allowed you to pick a couple of doozies. But I guess all doomsayers stick together. Thank God for Reincarnation Ray, it will give you a chance to think more on God your next time around. By the way Ray, this thread sure is getting long. But I'll surely keep it going into my next incarnation. stay real,
your x-friend
surereal.
To surreal and RK
Date: 03/18/02 09:50:10 AM
Silva wrote:
sil: Take a step back.
sil: Look at what you are writing, the tone you are writing it in, the animosity that is slowly creeping into both of your messages. Without all the bullshit of 'thinking', 'non-thinking', 'intellect', 'dualism' and 'non-dualism' what is left?
sil: Life is to be lived and loved....over analysing can bring us to a point where we forget that.
sil: It is easy to talk about what is right and what is wrong, what is the path and what isn't, but it is in his actions that man is tested. How do you choose to act?
sil: I enjoy the messages posted by you both and the different opinions that you bring. I hope that you can continue your debates in a spirit of love and open-mindedness.
Love life and live,
Silva
Re: To surreal and RK
Date: 03/18/02 11:20:50 AM
surereal777@MSN.com wrote:
s: I agree Silva, I guess when I was told I had "satanic scales over my eyes" my keyboard heated up a bit. But when you have two Poles bucking heads, it can get a bit messy. Thanks for the reminder.
surereal
Alex Jones
3001 S. Lamar, Suite100
Austin TX 78704.
Please see that Alex Jones reads this.
Alex, I have called you several times on your show. I am the caller "Ray from Oregon." It would appear that you are suspicious of me because of my professed state of Christ Consciousness (not mentioned on the air)
see http://www.arkenterprises.com and http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialchst.htm
Let me assure you that despite what you may perceive as a result of our brief conversations, I AM NOT YOUR ENEMY, nor am I your competitor. We are just addressing the same crisis of Human Consciousness at widely divergent levels of conciousness.
Your approach of "resistance" has been the way of the world since the dawn of civilization. It accounts for EVERY WAR that has ever existed. It will only lead to further death, destruction and human suffering. By your present course of action, you will have played into the very hands of those you seek to resist.
Mine is an awakening to the fact that all human beings are sovereign and therefore create their reality. Satanic Thought conditioning and control has been responsible for Mankind's present conditioned, acquired dualistic intellectualism, his "Fall from Grace."
I could not nor would I consider taking the approach to awakening the populace that you have, even though it has its place.
However, that being said, let me reiterate the tactic of launching a nationwide BOYCOTT against government and banks as the ONLY effective measure of bringing down the NEW WORLD ORDER and restoring sovereignty into the hands of the awakened individual. It is the ONLY measure which SHOUTS of INDEPENDENCE and not SUBJUGATION.
Enclosed is a money order in the amount of $29.95, ($25.95 + $4 S&H) for your latest video 911 - The Road to Tyranny.
Meditate, if you will, upon this issue of BOYCOTT and RESISTANCE and let the Spirit of Truth guide you!
"Bill Thompson" wrote:
"Raymond Karczewski" (arkent@arkenterprises.com) wrote:
Wed, 20 Mar 2002 23:58:03 -0800
To: Alex Jones Austin TX 78704.
rk: > Alex, I have called you several times on your show. ... Your approach of "resistance" has been the way of the world since the dawn of civilization. It accounts for EVERY WAR that has ever existed. It will only lead to further death, destruction and human suffering. By your present course of action, you will have played into the very hands of those you seek to resist.
rk: > I could not nor would I consider taking the approach to awakening the populace that you have, even though it has its place.
rk: > However, that being said, let me reiterate the tactic of launching a nationwide BOYCOTT against government and banks as the ONLY effective measure of bringing down the NEW WORLD ORDER and restoring sovereignty into the hands of the awakened individual. It is the ONLY measure which SHOUTS of INDEPENDENCE and not SUBJUGATION.
bt: Reply/comment: I can get behind this concept. We all have our favorite governments and causes to love/hate and, usually, we are sucked in to taking sides in controversy and battle because one side did a better job of selling their cause than the other. Or we only got to HEAR one side, as is the case in the US today.
bt: Some of us know what's going on, but we still get sucked in anyway. We think that we have no choice but to root for or support the lesser of evils, because "the other side (or the only viable "alternative") is even worse."
bt: Why do we let our lives be managed and run by others this way? It costs nothing to opt out and vote with the majority (that is, to vote NO) and to not play into their shell game.
bt: Establish your own rule. Speak out and vote (if you bother) AGAINST government, against bond issues (or any forms of taxation that ultimately enable governments), against votes of confidence and other encouragements that empower regimes. Work to down-size, decentralize, unallocate, weaken and scatter governments at any and ALL levels. Yes, consider passive anarchy.
bt: Look at their consistent histories and track records. They invariably turn corrupt and evil. They always make everything worse, not better, for the people they lord over, don't they? I can't think of an an exception in my lifetime. Can you?
bt: This guy (Raymond) is on to something here. Think about it. Spread the idea of individual soveriegn freedom everywhere you can, every chance you get. Your life (and your children's) may depend on it. It begins with the easiest step of all. Simply opt out and DON'T play into the enemy's organized, scripted, mass-advertised game and plan.
bt: Turn your TV off. Search the web for *real* alternative voices. We are out here, looking for you, just as you are looking for us. Together, we brought down the Soviet Union and the Berlin Wall. Tomorrow, who knows? Washington? Tel Aviv?
--Picayune
"Bill Thompson" wrote:
"Raymond Karczewski" (arkent@arkenterprises.com) wrote:
Wed, 20 Mar 2002 23:58:03 -0800
To: Alex Jones Austin TX 78704.
rk: >> Alex, I have called you several times on your show. ... Your approach of "resistance" has been the way of the world since the dawn of civilization. It accounts for EVERY WAR that has ever existed. It will only lead to further death, destruction and human suffering. By your present course of action, you will have played into the very hands of those you seek to resist.
rk: >> I could not nor would I consider taking the approach to awakening the populace that you have, even though it has its place.
rk: >> However, that being said, let me reiterate the tactic of launching a nationwide BOYCOTT against government and banks as the ONLY effective measure of bringing down the NEW WORLD ORDER and restoring sovereignty into the hands of the awakened individual. It is the ONLY measure which SHOUTS of INDEPENDENCE and not SUBJUGATION.
bt: > Reply/comment: I can get behind this concept.
rk: Congratulations: A Sighted man emerges amid the LEGION of the BLIND.
bt: > We all have our favorite governments and causes to love/hate and, usually, we are sucked in to taking sides in controversy and battle because one side did a better job of selling their cause than the other. Or we only got to HEAR one side, as is the case in the US today.
rk: Such SATANIC mind control is so pervasive that average civilized sheeple have come to love the LIE -- the ILLUSION.
rk: They live in the Satanic Realm of BASSACKWARDS and are unaware that they serve the petty "god" of Illusion, regardless of how positive and schmoozy its packaging by political and religious mind controllers. Having fallen from the Grace in which Truth abides, they lack holistic action and are therefore keyed through "outer directed" stimulus to resist and/or blindly support their own canned reactionary responses to images and concepts which habitually rule their consciousness. They avoid action in the Living moment of NOW, and "choose" to live in the dead aftermoment of Belief. That simple shift of consciousness relegates them to the LEGION of the LIVING DEAD.
bt: > Some of us know what's going on, but we still get sucked in anyway.
rk: Damned if you do and damned if you don't, eh? So what else is new?
bt: > We think that we have no choice but to root for or support the lesser of evils, because "the other side (or the only viable "alternative") is even worse."
rk: Illusion is always dualistic and therefore partial, though it pretends to be whole. Never can it resonate beyond its dualistic limitation. One must end the chatter of conditioned intellect to have direct perception of HOLISTIC TRUTH. Therefore anytime consciousness is caused to deal with the endless fragmentation and attendant confusion of the dualistic matrix of "nontechnical intellectual thought," HELL is fully operant in that particular terminal of consciousness; i.e., the SATANIC (Opposer) Intellect.
bt: > Why do we let our lives be managed and run by others this way?
rk: Civilized man is conditioned to be codependent, UNWHOLE, fragmented. He is ruled by the SATANIC (Opposing) influence of limited dualistic thought. There is the answer to your question.
bt: > It costs nothing to opt out and vote with the majority (that is, to vote NO) and to not play into their shell game.
rk: If only the SILENT MAJORITY would find its voice, not collectively but individually, life, as man has come to "know" it on this earth, would be transformed in an eternal "blink of an eye."
bt: > Establish your own rule. Speak out and vote (if you bother) AGAINST government, against bond issues (or any forms of taxation that ultimately enable governments), against votes of confidence and other encouragements that empower regimes. Work to down-size, decentralize, unallocate, weaken and scatter governments at any and ALL levels. Yes, consider passive anarchy.
rk: Ponder THIS: In a moment of holistic insight, ALL BEINGS are capable of FUNDAMENTAL CHANGE in that very INSTANT. It is called SELF-REALIZATION. Simply put, it can be said that what thought has created can be undone because either opposing viewpoint is merely a fragmented illusion which derives its power via the consent of the believer.
rk: Disintegrate the Illusion through Understanding and the EVERLASTING TRUTH is revealed. In that timeless moment, HELL IS NOT!!!
bt: > Look at their consistent histories and track records. They invariably turn corrupt and evil. They always make everything worse, not better, for the people they lord over, don't they? I can't think of an an exception in my lifetime. Can you?
bt: > This guy (Raymond) is on to something here. Think about it.
rk: No sir, do not think about it -- SEE IT!! The Seeing will be the action required to disintegrate the Illusion which engulfs the present world consciousness. Am I on to something -- of that there can be no question!! The only question remaining is how many who read this are capable of grasping such a simple Truth.
bt > Spread the idea of individual soveriegn freedom everywhere you can, every chance you get.
rk: See it, Be it, and the world will be transformed effortlessly.
bt: > Your life (and your children's) may depend on it.
rk: You bet it DOES. What legacy will present mankind leave to their Children?
bt: > It begins with the easiest step of all. Simply opt out and DON'T play into the enemy's organized, scripted, mass-advertised game and plan.
rk: Withdraw support for unlawful and unconstitutional taxes imposed by a corporate entity which pretends to be a Constitutional Government. Before tax time, ask them to show you the LAW which requires YOU to pay income tax. Becha they CAN'T DO IT!!
rk: Withdraw your money from the hands of the Money Handlers, the Bankers. You are the producer of wealth in your life, not the money managers who have nothing to manage should you realize it is your life's energy that they have been manipulating (Redistributing Wealth) all along.
bt: Turn your TV off. Search the web for *real* alternative voices. We are out here, looking for you, just as you are looking for us. Together, we brought down the Soviet Union and the Berlin Wall. Tomorrow, who knows? Washington? Tel Aviv?
rk: . . . NEW WORLD ORDER????
surereal777@MSN.com wrote:
Raymond Karczewski (arkent@arkenterprises.com) wrote:
Date: 03/22/02 11:06:40 PM
s: > The neat aspect of Reincarnation is, believe in it or not, it will still work for each and every soul created by God.
rk: Reincarnation is a theoretical construct of the time-bound Satanically ruled Intellect. Life is Holistic, Eternal. It therefore cannot be grasped by the limited time-bound, linear intellect.
s: > The fairness of God has made it that no requirements or limitations are to restrict his fairness. Edgar Cayce once said, "We don't go to heaven, we grow to heaven.
rk: Such is the nature of Self-Realization. When the artificial, "unhealthy", civilized, conditioned ego (Knowledge-Bound Dualistic Intellect) which is otherwise regarded as "Self" is understood, it is dissolved, it dies, it ends. In that moment of dissolution emerges the Resurrection of the holistic Spirit of TRUTH, the nondualistic essence which has ALWAYS BEEN and will ALWAYS BE. It is in that moment of Truth that the "healthy" ego emerges as the link between the Infinite (nondualistic) and finite (dualistic) levels of consciousness. That is the CHRIST STATE of Consciousness. It is the Spiritual Estate of ALL MEN, yet few come to realize it.
s: > This world is our school and our different lifetimes are the different classes we learn in.
rk: At a most superficial level of consciousness, this is true, that is, as far as it goes. Unfortunately it does not go very far. It is through such "coulda, woulda, shoulda," positive-imaged, pleasant, feel-good projections that the Satanic Level of Intellect is fortified with an endless stream of exculpatory escapes/diversions rather than facing the MOMENT OF TRUTH.
s: > God is our teacher and return we must to learn his lessons.
rk: One must first resonate with the unmistakable, indescribable essence of nondualistic TRUTH, i.e., God; otherwise one talks through his hat with endless speculations and imaginings.
s: > Even the longest of lifetimes would not be long enough to learn what God has to teach, yet a very short one. So, "Believe it or not," you will come back. Graduation will eventually come to us all.
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rk: Belief is the Lazy Blind Man's Truth. One only needs to open one's spiritual eyes to SEE THE TRUTH, and belief falls away as so much Intellectual political and religious conditioned tripe.