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Mirror Mirror on the Wall: Who Is The Most Hellish Of Them All?

NOTE to APFN and Town Square readers. It is unknown just how long the administrators of these two forums will leave this article up on their bulletin boards, as they have been taking my posts down as soon as they are discovered.

They have joined the ranks of other patriot groups which have stripped my posts from their newsgroups readership. It seems that patriot group leadership do not want my posts on their bulletin board/forums. Ask yourself why!

Many of you folks have read my articles in the past. You know what I write about and you know fully well what kinds of responses my writing attracts. Take a good long, hard look at the attacks in this article, all of which have been made regarding me and my writing just within the last 24 hours.

Then ask yourself from where does such source of firestorm of controversy originate? Does such darkness and insanity originate from Ray Karczewski or from the cowardly anonymous disinformation agents who control these groups and forums with the cooperation of forum administrators.

The following article pretty much distills for all to see, the evil and destructive energy which lies behind the masks of hypocrites as they blindly attack anything and everything which may expose them.

Are you lurkers out there really so blind that you can't see what's going on right under your noses? If so, is that the reason you feel so depressed in your daily life, so diminished that you seek out codependent relationships to make yourselves feel whole, feel functional?

Are you addicted to the leadership of experts who promise, promise, promise, but never quite deliver on their promises? Doesn't that anger you further when you see how you have been exploited in the process by these very same experts in whom you have placed your blind trust?

Ask yourself why you should "need" a Ray Karczewski or some other *spiritually sighted* individual to point out the obvious to you? You can see -- or can you?

Are you presently relegated to stumbling through life dependent upon a spiritually BLIND but computer-like, thinking intellect? Rather than fly through life by the seat of your pants, fully sighted and guided by the Supreme Spirit of Intelligence, the Holistic (Holy) Spirit, have you not instead chosen to stumble through life on AUTOMATIC PILOT, dependent upon the Satanic (dualistic-Opposer) Instrument of a narrowly conditioned, linear-thinking Intellect?

How did you get that way? Deep down, you know. You have always known. Your problem is that you are now blocked from that self-knowledge. You are unable to access it. You carry too much excess psychological baggage. So you look to experts to lighten your load. THAT'S YOUR FIRST MISTAKE. From there on it is all down hill. That is your *Fall from Grace.* You gave up your God-Given Intelligence for the empty promises which seduced you into the worship of a conditioned Intellect. You got schnookered by YOU KNOW WHO!!!

Once the insidiousness of mind control at the subtle stages is pointed out to you, are you thankful for finally seeing that which previously eluded you, or do you feel angry and resentful because your own lack of awareness has been spotlighted and your corrupted ego demands that you save face?

Once you observe the Truth, do you act on it or does your conditioned apathy take over and compel you to face-savingly excuse yourself from acting upon what is observed? Isn't that just a NASTY HABIT acquired along the way of your acquisitive, intellectually-oriented life -- one in which you have joined in fellowship with others who are equally blind and together, through your collective blindness, have architected a thought/rule based world of civilized man that can only be described as a HELL ON EARTH?

Yes, folks, it's time to look behind the curtain and take another good look at your leader(s). SEE the frail little man -- the "expert" who calls himself "the Wizard" -- the conjuror of Illusion, a poseur ruled by Satan, the petty god of the Intellect.

It is a time of AWAKENING for all HUMAN BEINGS who have been fast asleep dreaming they are but helpless, codependent MUNCHKINS living a BAD DREAM.

At any rate, read the following. It is a prime example of an hypnotically controlled MUNCHKIN STATE OF MIND!

Hell, isn't it?

Ray Karczewski

Mirror Mirror on the Wall: Who Is The Most Hellish Of Them All?

Raymond Karczewski (arkent@arkenterprises.com) wrote:

rk: Following are some of the concentrated attacks made upon Raymond Karczewski within the last twenty four hours.

rk: All were delivered by anonymous government/media sponsored/supported Disinformation Agents doing what they are paid to do on the Internet -- control the flow of information on these newsgroups/forums through intimidation, character assassination, gossip, threats and libel.

rk: Their mission: To control all communications on the Internet, to prevent serious discussion and redirect public attention away from the REAL PROBLEMS facing our world, and to hold public attention captive at the superficial, frivolous level of the prevailing "Politically-Correct Thought," OR ELSE!!!

rk: They speak of *racists.* They speak of *bigotry.* They speak of *hate speech.* They speak of *stupidity.* They speak of *cretins.* They speak of *threatening.* They speak of *emotional manipulation.* They speak of *despicable* and *disgusting* efforts. They speak of *damned slurs.* They speak of a *cancer on society.* They speak of *goddamned filth.* They speak of the *severely cognitively impaired.* They speak of a *Paranoid, racist son of a b**ch.* They speak of "Christ almighty. You're a goddamned sick man."

rk: All this they speak, but to whom are they addressing their comments as they stand before the MIRROR OF TRUTH?!

rk: Hell, isn't it?

unk: Shut the f**k up already. Your racism is obvious & hateful

unk: From: Got it you a**hole? (unknown)

unk: This is disgusting. Yes, there is only one way to read this shit Ray, and that is that you are stupid, racist, and full of hate.

unk: From: What to do with psychos like this? (unknown)

unk: Ray Karczewski's ISP needs to be notified (Stop respamming this s**t here freak)

unk: You're the only ignorant, illiterate cretin here, and no matter how many times you repost this hate, you will be condemned for it.

unk: we can't stop him from threatening everyone around here with his arsenal, and his delusions just get worse and worse. I figure one day he really will go off, start strafing people down in the streets as he has been threatening to do, and perhaps then people will understand his disease.

unk: Your own words are, of course, completely without force and merit, so you resort to the worst possible emotional manipulations and political tactics just to make people as sick and full of hate as you are.

unk: You are despicable in the depths to which you gleefully plunge in your disgusting efforts to make people hate one another.

unk: Not only are you so brainless as to post the damned slur to begin with, but you now repost the damned thing and try to defend your bigorty? Go to hell Ray. Seriously. You are a cancer on society.

unk: Piece of goddamned filth Your hate speech has no place in society, and you deserve every bit of criticism such vicious stereotyping receives.

unk: Yes, Ray is a bigot. He is a racist and a white power sympathizer. He is a militia backer as well.

unk: From: You deserve tohave thishate turnedon you (unknown)

unk: You are not only severely cognitively impaired, completely ignorant of facts, and out to attack any damned person around you, but you are a vicious, malicious racist happy to smear entire innocent ethnic groups because you hate life.

unk: Paranoid, racist son of a b**ch

unk: From: It shows everyone what the f**k you are (unknown)

unk: Even the lunatic militia boards won't tolerate your mental illness and delusional posts? Christ almighty. You're a goddamned sick man.

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American Patriots Are Being Sold Out by Their Leadership!

By Raymond Karczewski

Anyone interested in gaining deeper spiritual insight into why our Country will soon be engulfed in a Shooting Revolution will have to read them on my Bulletin Board at http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialchst.htm

The government/media/patriot forum administrators' censorship noose is tightening.

As of this date, Sept. 5th, 2001, Klamath Basin Discussion Forum http://disc.server.com/Indices/153941.html has just joined the ranks of the other Patriot groups below in removing all trace of my articles from their forums.

In my view, these forums have ONE THING in common. They have no stomach for considering deep inquiry into the problems our country faces. They prefer the power approach. Simple peaceful solutions to the Tyranny unfolding in our country are blocked from reaching their readership, as they prefer to pander to and fuel the fears and unsettled emotions of a tense, reactionary, fear controlled populace.

PATRIOT GROUPS CURRENTLY CENSORING MY POSTS
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*** Friends of Liberty International Discussion Board (Patriot Movement) http://www.friendsofliberty.com

The POWER HOUR http://www.gulfwarvets.com/cgi-bin/forumdisplay.cgi?action=topics&forum=The+Power+Hour&number=5

progun1's Freedom Board,http://members3.boardhost.com/progun1/

American Patriot Friends Network, http://disc.server.com/Indices/149495.html

Klamath Basin Discussion Forum http://disc.server.com/Indices/153941.html

A NOTE: Since my posts were censored by THE POWER HOUR Forum Administrator Michael New (Yes, THE Michael New of the US Army/UN Controversy) several months ago, I have continued to send emails of my articles to POWER HOUR hosts Joyce Riley, and Dave Von Kleist. I received the following remove notice via email advising they no longer wanted to receive such emails.

To: "Raymond Karczewski" (arkent@arkenterprises.com) Subject: Please remove

----- Original Message -----

From: Raymond Karczewski (arkent@arkenterprises.com)

To: (alex@infowars.com); (gulfwar@dam.net); (rush@eibnet.com);

Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 8:42 PM

Subject: Mirror Mirror on the Wall: Who Is The Most Hellish Of Them All?

Keep in mind the events of the last six years regarding the Government/Media Mind Control/Disinformation issue being stonewalled by the FBI and members of Congress, read the words of Disinformation Agent "digger" (principle subject under FBI investigation) below, put it all together, and you will see you are but putty in the hands of your Mind Control Handlers.

Ray Karczewski
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Ray K's posts successfully blocked from Supernews

digger (bad@example.com)

Date: 2001-08-31 05:37:32 PST

Legion Central has announced that the conspiracy to block Raymond Karczewski's posts from Supernews has been a success. The posts are being intercepted before they get there by the bRayBlock2000® AntiChrist bitbucket router, operating on an OpenCarnivore™ server.

Conspiracies are also in place to block these posts from Concentric and Pacbell as well. By the end of the year, nobody will be able to read Ray's posts anywhere.

It is thought to be unlikely that Ray will notice.

-- dr. digger,

BsD, PMAFA

Ambushing Sidewinder of the SKEP-TI-CULT

Blocking Ray's posts since 1996

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From: digger (bad@example.com)

Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 12:57:48 GMT

Meet Ray Karczewski, Unakook, Usenet Kook of the Month in June 2000.

Interesting how Ray complains about being censored on all the web boards he tries to overrun with floods of nonsense... and yet, amazingly enough, on his own web board he censors anyone who doesn't suck up.

Which is why it only has messages from Ray.

Enjoy it while you can. Pretty soon Ray's posts won't appear on Usenet at all.

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Re: Mirror Mirror on the Wall: Who Is The Most Hellish Of Them All?

5 Sep 2001 06:47:59 -0700

Genial Uncle Bob (Genial_member@newsguy.com)

In article (3B957DFF.F7C81F3C@internetcds.com), Raymond says...

rk: >> NOTE to APFN and Town Square readers. It is unknown just how long the administrators of these two forums will leave this article up on their bulletin boards, as they have been taking my posts down as soon as they are discovered.

rk: >> They have joined the ranks of other patriot groups which have stripped my posts from their newsgroups readership. It seems that patriot group leadership do not want my posts on their bulletin board/forums. Ask yourself why!

gub: > Because you are a nut and a fruitcake,

rk: Read my posts. Read the responses to my post. See if you can trace the source of insanity which you have referred to and determine for yourself who the actual nuts, fruitcakes, bigots, racists, character assassins, and just plain IGNORAMUSES are in a BASSACKWARD world.

rk: Question: When does *insanity* equal *normal?*

rk: Answer: When a BASSACKWARD world of insanity = normal is routinely approved of and supported by the leadership-architected consensus of the dumbed down, unaware and ignorant!!

rk: Now put that clear and indisputable proposition to the test. Look at the state of our Human World we "civilized" beings have created for ourselves. If living in that kind of a world is not INSANITY, then what is?

gub: > and they don't want to be associated with you.

rk: That comes as no surprised either. Lemmings always find their own way to their destruction, don't they?

gub: > They're crazy, not stupid. Ok, some of them are stupid, but not the ones that count.

rk: In a BASSACKWARD world, *stupid* is only a graded step on the path to insanity, is it not? What stupidity and insanity both share in common is their inculcated state of conditioned UNAWARENESS.

rk: Human ignoramuses really work hard to achieve the state of consciousness they share collectively. Hell, they haven't even reached the level of transcending their base level of Slavemindedness yet! In their exploited consciousness that instills WORK (for their masters) as their primary drive, they are destroying their health, their families, and now they find they are unable to resist their "outer directed" focus toward destroying their Country. If that's not dumb, what is?

gub: > Ray, ask yourself this: when you have reached the stage where not even the dyed-in-the-wool loons who call themselves 'patriots' want to have anything to do with you, you have achieved true insanity, have you not?

rk: Or I HAVE MADE MY CASE that the world of Civilized, conditioned Mankind has always and continues to RESONATE with the unmistakable vibration of BASSACKWARDS.

rk: Look at the histories of past and present civilizations -- Hell, wasn't/isn't it?

rk: Only Satanically/Intellectually ruled IGNORAMUSES are incapable of grasping the Truth of such a message.

rk: How many times can human society affort to reject the simplicity of the Christ Message?

Ray Karczewski

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Re: Mirror Mirror on the Wall: Who Is The Most Hellish Of Them All?

Thu, 06 Sep 2001 09:17:55 -0400

"T. E." (tepstein@agere.com)

Raymond Karczewski wrote:

rk: >>> ... It seems that patriot group leadership do not want my posts on their bulletin board/forums. Ask yourself why!

gub:> > Because you are a nut and a fruitcake,

rk: > Read my posts. Read the responses to my post. See if you can trace the source of insanity which you have referred to and determine for yourself who the actual nuts, fruitcakes, bigots, racists, character assassins, and just plain IGNORAMUSES are in a BASSACKWARD world.

te: Reading your posts, including this one, I gotta go with "gub:" you're a nut and a fruitcake.

rk: What have we here? An anonymous disinformation agent, and a "Me Too"-spouting anonymous disinformation agent.

rk: A "gub" declares another is a "nut and a fruitcake." Then along comes a "te" who adds "..I gotta go with "gub:" you're a nut and a fruitcake."

rk: Readers, take the time to savor the essence of what is actually being said by these two while both hide their sorry souls in the shadows of anonymity. -- "I ('te') gotta go with 'gub' you're a nut and a fruitcake."

rk: Note that neither of these two anonymous yahoos offers anything of substance to back up such a reputation-damaging cheap shot. Rather typical of cowards. Twas like falling off a log for those who would pander to illiterate ignoramuses, wasn't it?

rk: Now all either of you two have to do is give your reasons for why you would continue in your cooperative effort to spread such a libel.

rk: One-liners, sound bytes and terse slogans are the tools of advertising types -- the political hacks, the mind controllers who pull the strings of pre-conditioned *politically/religiously-correct thinking* automatons. They create the illusion that they are saying something when they are not saying anything of substance at all. However, it does work on the unaware, the dumbed down, and the emotionally reactive who make up the vast mind controlled populace.

rk: THE METHOD: One anonymous mind controller initiates a Cheap Shot one-liner smear without adding any substance to back up his comment. Another anonymous mind controller jumps on the "bandwagon" and chimes in with a *typically kindergartenish* "ME TOO" (consensus driven populations are manipulated through their long established and reinforced kindergartenish "ME TOO" thinking. "ME TOO" thinking -- Tis the reason for poll-taking) which reinforces the previous libel to their target audience. Speaks volumes regarding the questionable intelligence possessed by both *mind controller* and *mind controlee*, does it not?

rk: Can the readers expect you two to give substantive evidence to back up your comments? Can the readers expect that you two will back up those comments with your actual names?

rk: As it stands right now, your credibility is on the same plane as your integrity. In other words, AIN'T WORTH MUCH!!

Ray Karczewski

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Is the American Public THAT Gullible?!! (Was: Re: Invitation to Sylvia Browne)

Fri, 7 Sep 2001 20:10:29 -0400

"Dan Pressnell" (dan_pressnell@yahoo.com) wrote:

Raymond Karczewski (arkent@arkenterprises.com) wrote:

d: I invite the bitch Sylvia Brown to participate in this newsgroup. The bitch ought to feel at home here with kindred souls Kettler and Flagship.

rk: Your choice of the word "Invite" is a rather curious one, is it not?

rk: Are you really so insensitive and oblivious to the storm of hatred and bigotry which obviously rages within a seething hypocrite that you would use such a word, expecting that readers would not pick up on the glaring "Contradiction in Essence" between the letter and the spirit of your communication -- or is this merely a mind controller's test to gauge the dumbed down hypnotic level of your audience?

d: Or will the bitch run away?

Dan

rk: The real test here is that which probes the character and spiritual substance (or lack thereof) of readers of these newsgroups who sit by apathetically and tacitly encourage such spiteful, hateful, malicious-spirited attacks upon a person of note by a coattail-riding parasite of no note.

rk: Has America Fallen that Far? You bet!!

rk: When the public loses interest in petty media created spectacles such as an OJ Simpson trial, a Monica Lewinsky scandal, and/or a helpless, frightened 5-year-old Elian Gonzales abducted from the arms of his family by machine gun-toting Federal Agents, and no outrage arises from an inert, apathetic population to these clear government/media sponsored/supported diversions, the suggestible public can easily be manipulated into following new, exploitable, petty, misdirections. While the public is entranced by such banality their world, culture and values disintegrate before their blind eyes.

rk: Divide and conquer has always been a favorite ploy of mind controlling leadership. Could well be that through public acceptance of those mind controllers/disinformation agents who seek to divide, then pit group against group, person against person, misdirecting attention toward a base conduct of gossip, personal smears, libels, and prideful wallowing about in the muck, the public will never notice the freedom which has been slowly and surreptitiously stripped away from them as they are coercively being led into a NEW WORLD ORDER.

rk: Hell, isn't it, Dan Pressnell?

Ray Karczewski

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Stepping on NWO/CHRISTIAN toes!!

Raymond Karczewski (arkent@arkenterprises.com) wrote:

rk: The Following is a post issued by an unknown forger! NOTE THE FORMATTING and article's origin observed in PATH.

rk: There has been an increase in this sort of nonsense on the newsgroups recently and it is tied in with the systematic removal (censorship) of my articles from all christian based patriotic forums.

rk: Be careful in what you read on the Internet, Things are not what they appear to be.

rk: No matter how hard they try, these government/media sponsored/supported anonymous disinformation agents cannot capture the essence of Christ (Truth) Consciousness that is the unmistakable energy signature of my articles, can they?

rk: When are you folks going to wake up and see you are being had by the political/religious mindcontrollers who manipulate your every thought.

rk: Note the players below include the self-admitted SATANIST *WIDDERSHINS.*

rk: Anyone interested in the Truth not yet contaminated by hackers can find it expressed in my writings at http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialchst.htm

rk: One can see the Hell it has raised on the Internet Community.

rk: And you thought I was not stepping on some NWO/Christian Toes eh?

rk: Those possessed of Spiritual Sight discern there is not a whit of difference in the power oriented, fragmented energy signature displayed between the leadership of both seemingly opposite conditioned mindsets of power. Those who live by the sword shall perish by the sword.

rk: Now do you understand the nature of the SATANIC INTELLECT?

Ray Karczewski

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> > Re: American Kooks Are Censoring Their Patriots!

> > "Widdershins" (sinistre@concentric.net) wrote in message > news:3ba44cdc.11180975@news.concentric.net...

> > X-No-Archive: Yes

> > > > On Sat, 08 Sep 2001 08:27:11 GMT digger (bad@example.com) > > Licked the point of a yellow #2 pencil and wrote:

> > > > >sinistre@concentric.net (Widdershins) wrote:

> > > > > >>

X-No-Archive: Yes

> > >> > > >> On Fri, 07 Sep 2001 07:26:02 GMT digger (bad@example.com) > > >> Licked the point of a yellow #2 pencil and wrote:

> > >> > > >> >Raymond Karczewski (arkent@internetcds.com), June 2000 Usenet Kook of the Month, spammed forth:

> > >> > > > >> >>rk: Anyone interested in gaining deeper spiritual insight into why our Country will soon be engulfed in a Shooting Revolution will have to read them on my Bulletin Board at http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialchst.htm

> > >> >> > > >> >> rk: The government/media/patriot forum administrators' censorship noose is tightening.

> > >> > > > >> >d: The solution is obvious, bRay.

> > >> > > > >> >d: 1. Stop spamming everyone else's web boards.

> > >> >d: 2. Stop censoring everyone else on your own elf-aggrandizing web

> > >> > > >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

> > >>d: >board.

> > >> > > > >> w: Probably just a typo, but an astonishingly appropriate one.

> > > > > >d: Yes, but yes.

> > > > > >d: "elf-aggrandizing" was a typo that Ray made years ago. Being an > > >obsessed PSF, and a loyal AntiXrist co-conspirator, I have made sure > > >Ray never forgot it.

> > > >w: Keep up the good patriotic work.

> > > > rk: The careful reader may be able to discern what just happened. The question is, how many of the inert, dumbed down, sleeping ignoramuses were able to pick up on it?

> > rk: Note the backslapping kudos from one admitted Disinformation Agent, "digger", to another self admitted disinformation agent, "widdershins". The pat themselves on the back for a job well done, and are now ready to slink > back to the shadows of anonymity.

> > rk: As it stands, their only point was to dredge up an old typo I made long > ago in the annals of Usenet.

> > rk: Or, WAS IT?

> > rk: "elf-aggrandizing", Indeed! Everyone remembers the fad of the troll dolls with the oversized eyes. I merely mistook "elf" for "troll." There is however, a deeper meaning.

> > rk: My wife, Anita collects these horrific dolls. In fact, there is one glued to the top of this computer. Staring at me. Looking down at me unforgivingly. It knows....it has the answers. It will not give them to me.

> > rk: He MOCKS ME! THE TROLL IS MOCKING ME! With that stupid smile, and those big brown eyes...it is the essence of the Satanic (Opposer) Intellect!> And it's in MY HOUSE!

> > rk: My house, as in the one you all pay for. Yes, that one. ATTENTION > TAXPAYERS! ARE YOU LISTENING?

> > rk: I demand that you resolve the 6 1/2 Year Stonewalling of This Troll On My Computer! Contact your local Representatives and Demand that someone...ANYONE...come and get this doll of my computer before I throw it out onto the Evidence Pile and burn it all!

> > rk: A Sleeping Nation awaits your response!

> > -- > *************************************************************** > > When Christ Speaks --- Who Listens?

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Re: Stepping on NWO/CHRISTIAN/BLOWHARD'S toes!!

09 Sep 2001 05:18:57 GMT

Raymond Karczewski (arkent@arkenterprises.com) wrote:

sinistre@concentric.net (Widdershins) wrote:

w: X-No-Archive: Yes

w: On Sat, 08 Sep 2001 13:06:47 -0700 Raymond Karczewski (arkent@internetcds.com) Licked the point of a yellow #2 pencil and wrote:

w: snip

rk: >> When are you folks going to wake up and see you are being had by the political/religious mindcontrollers who manipulate your every thought.

rk: >> Note the players below include the self-admitted SATANIST *WIDDERSHINS.*

w: snip

rk: With such snipping away of contextual evidence, let it be known to all that you are responding to an article that some unknown person FORGED in my name. I DID NOT write that article. However, I DID write the statement "Note the players below include the self-admitted SATANIST *WIDDERSHINS.*"

w: Are you sure? I don't remember admitting to satanism.

rk: You don't remember, eh? And you don't Archive either. I DO ARCHIVE -- have for six years now. I'll be around to assist your memory when we see each other in Federal Court.

w: I do attend the odd pagan gathering from time to time. Things like imbolc, samhain, that sort of thing. I'm friendly with the local priestess of the Church of Bast and Sekmet (Reformed), but she's been a family friend for at least two decades.

w: No, Rayster, I'm a born, bred, baptized and confirmed practicing Roman Catholic. I'm surprised such an astute observer of the human condition as yourself missed that. Others in this group have tumbled to it.

w: Nope. Satan has no place at my table, although sometimes, Elijah does.

w: So that's another lie you've told about me. I of course will retract, provided you can produce the full message (with headers) whereI ever confessed being a Satanist.

rk: You will RETRACT it under certain circumstances, eh? Well, isn't that speshul??

w: A biker, a trained killer (with a handful of weapons including firearms), an actor, a make up specialist, a propagandist, a mole, but not a Satanist.

rk: ". . . A Trained Killer" . . . -- So you were in the Armed Forces too, eh?

rk: However, in your attempt to bolster an overcompensating, sagging ego you forgot to add a little Truth to your resume. You failed to mention that your a shadow slinking COWARD. Not only do you lack the courage and integrity to backup your words with your true identity you have to preface your posts with "X-No-Archive: Yes" to prevent your comments from being ARCHIVED. Can't afford to leave that pesky evidence laying around, can you?

rk: Not to worry, I DO ARCHIVE "X-No-Archive" posts. After all, we have to save something for the Courts, don't we Mr. BIKER, TRAINED KILLER, ACTOR, MAKEUP SPECIALIST, PROPAGANDIST (is that sorta like a government/media sponsored/supported disinformation agent?), MOLE, COWARD, and last but not least, POSTURING BLOWHARD.

Ray Karczewski

w: So, the man of TRVTH thinks nothing of lying when it suits his own twisted purpose. How very Christlike, Ray.

Widdershins

Getting even is a moral imperative.

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Threats From a BLOWHARD: Hell, isn't it? (Was: Re: Stepping on NWO/CHRISTIAN/BLOWHARD'S toes!!)

09 Sep 2001 16:16:00 GMT

sinistre@concentric.net (Widdershins)

Raymond Karczewski (arkent@arkenterprises.com) wrote:

rk: This goes into the *evidence pile* along with the other veiled death threats made by widdershins and his cowardly cohorts over the past years.

rk: Keep em coming, widdershins. I've got plenty of Storage Space left.

rk: Aren't computer records wonderful for establishing and maintaining documentable evidence? Especially when copies for safekeeping are kept in the hands of others.

rk: Consider the archiving of this post a public service to a forgetful SATANIST -- one who may someday wish to forget that he pointedly boasted of being a trained killer; i.e., "I am able to slit your throat with the edge of a credit card. Not that I would, it's so messy. Well maybe I might,"

rk: By the way, widdershins, that's some Satanic Mind Control Meditative exercise you espouse at the bottom of this post. It serves to reveal just how UNBALANCED you cowardly YAHOOS really are !!

rk: As a Cop, bodyguard, and Private Security Company owner over a twenty year span, I dealt with threats and assaults to my person and against my family from Hell's Angels, other biker clubs, and deranged and unbalanced people who have used knives, guns, hammers and any else they could get their hands on to use against me. The point is, I did that for a living for 20 years and I survived. What makes you think you can do what OTHERS COULD NOT DO?

rk: My advice to you, widdershins -- STICK to ACTING and PLAYING WITH YOUR MAKEUP!

rk: Your penance for being a "good do-be" SATANIST is to do 10 Satanic Meditation techniques (See Bottom of Post) until you begin to imagine that you have achieved MANHOOD, then you have my permission to come back to reality and crawl back into your hole, as any *self-admitted mole* would do.

rk: Actually, widdershins, you have provided a great service to the vast numbers of readers who live in constant and reinforced fear at the Satanic level of consciousness. You have revealed the tainted and impotent spirit that is the essence of SATANISM as nothing more than the prattle of illusion-based, shallow, petty word mongers.

The Hell of it is -- WORD MONGERING SATANISTS RULE the world of hypnotically controlled Civilized Man, yet the slumbering masses STILL DON'T GET IT!

rk: End of Christ Message

Widdershins continues:

w: X-No-Archive: Yes

w: On Sun, 09 Sep 2001 03:20:30 -0700 Raymond Karczewski (arkent@internetcds.com) Licked the point of a yellow #2 pencil and wrote:

w: snip

w: >> On Sat, 08 Sep 2001 13:06:47 -0700 Raymond Karczewski (arkent@internetcds.com) Licked the point of a yellow #2 pencil and wrote:

w: >>snip

rk: >>> When are you folks going to wake up and see you are being had by the political/religious mindcontrollers who manipulate your every thought.

rk: >>> Note the players below include the self-admitted SATANIST *WIDDERSHINS.*

w:>> snip

rk: > With such snipping away of contextual evidence, let it be known to all that you are responding to an article that some unknown person FORGED in my name. I DID NOT write that article. However, I DID write the statement "Note the players below include the self-admitted >SATANIST *WIDDERSHINS.*"

w: You said that earlier. Is your mind slipping a little, there, Raytard?

w: >> Are you sure? I don't remember admitting to satanism.

rk: > You don't remember, eh? And you don't Archive either. I DO ARCHIVE -- have for six years now. I'll be around to assist your memory when we see each other in Federal Court.

w: Another one of your nadless threats to sue. Let's do it, Fatso! You're going to love being put away in Oregon state's finest "medical" facility.

w: >> I do attend the odd pagan gathering from time to time. Things like imbolc, samhain, that sort of thing. I'm friendly with the local priestess of the Church of Bast and Sekmet (Reformed), but she's been a family friend for at least two decades.

w: >> No, Rayster, I'm a born, bred, baptized and confirmed practicing Roman Catholic. I'm surprised such an astute observer of the human condition as yourself missed that. Others in this group have tumbled to it.

w: >> Nope. Satan has no place at my table, although sometimes, Elijah does.

w: >> So that's another lie you've told about me. I of course will retract, provided you can produce the full message (with headers) whereI ever confessed being a Satanist.

rk: > You will RETRACT it under certain circumstances, eh? Well, isn't that speshul??

w: I notice that the message with headers is missing from your reply. Now who's the blowhard, little man?

w: >> A biker, a trained killer (with a handful of weapons including firearms), an actor, a make up specialist, a propagandist, a mole, but not a Satanist.

rk: > ". . . A Trained Killer" . . . -- So you were in the Armed Forces too, eh?

w: A slightly less prominent government agency, truth to tell. Just so you'll have some idea, I am able to slit your throat with the edge of a credit card. Not that I would; it's so messy. Well maybe I might,

w: if I were using one of your cards. If you have any.

w: (SNORK)

rk: > However, in your attempt to bolster an overcompensating, sagging ego you forgot to add a little Truth to your resume. You failed to mention that you're a shadow slinking COWARD. Not only do you lack the courage and integrity to backup your words with your true identity, you have to preface your posts with "X-No-Archive: Yes" to prevent your comments from being ARCHIVED. Can't afford to leave that pesty evidence laying around, can you?

w: I do that to keep whackos like you from going RL on me. Can't afford to have my cover completely blown, just as you can't afford to have law enforcement pay too much attention to you, backslider.

rk: > Not to worry, I DO ARCHIVE "X-No-Archive" posts. After all, we have to save something for the Courts, don't we Mr. BIKER, TRAINED KILLER, ACTOR, MAKEUP SPECIALIST, PROPAGANDIST (is that sorta like a government/media sponsored/supported disinformation agent?), MOLE, COWARD, and last but not least, POSTURING BLOWHARD.

w: PKB Raytard. Now where's that ol' message?

Ray Karczewski

w:>> So, the man of TRVTH thinks nothing of lying when it suits his own twisted purpose. How very Christlike, Ray.

w: You've very succinctly demonstrated the statement above, Raytard. Thank you. This goes in your dossier.

Widdershins

w: Picture yourself near a stream. Birds are chirping in the crisp, cool mountain air. Nothing can bother you here. No one in the world knows about this secret place. You are in total seclusion from that place called "the world." The soothing sound of a gentle waterfall fills the air with a cascade of serenity. The water is so clear that you can easily make out the face of the person whose head you are holding under the water.

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The EXORCISM CONTINUES: (Was Threats From a BLOWHARD: Hell, isn't it?)

10 Sep 2001 07:45:57 GMT

sinistre@concentric.net (Widdershins)

Organization: House Widdershins

On Sun, 09 Sep 2001 13:36:55 -0700 Raymond Karczewski (rkent@internetcds.com) Licked the point of a yellow #2 pencil and wrote:

w: X-No-Archive: Yes

rk: >> This goes into the *evidence pile* along with the other veiled death threats made by widdershins and his cowardly cohorts over the past years.

w: > ITYM compost pile, Raytard. Nobody who has ever confronted you and your psychosis has ever been arrested, or charged with any crime. You have never even successfully filed a civil action in all the years of your laughable blustering in Usenet.

rk: When a nation's government conditions people to believe that it is a Nation founded in Law, yet refuses to carry out even the least of its law enforcement responsibilities in protecting the rights and privileges of such citizens, THERE IS NO LAW! In such a corrupt society, only the ILLUSION OF LAW prevails.

rk: The civil action will come ONLY after the CRIMINAL action has been completed. That is why I took it to the FBI on November 2nd, 1997. Nothing has changed at this end. My intention to expose the corruption of the U.S. Government/Media in carrying out its mind control/disinformation experiments upon unwary users of the Internet has not wavered in the least. The fact that it has been going on in excess of 6 years now only points out the level of blindness, ignorance and apathy of a conditioned public.

rk: Pay close attention to the smoke screens and misdirections thrown up by flawed mirrors placed into the mix by disinformation agents, and you will see that what I say is TRUE.

rk: Closure will come when my brothers and sisters awaken from their hypnotic nap and gather sufficient energy to take this country back from their corrupt "servants."

w: > Come on, Raytard. Get off your fat ass. Come after me.

rk: You fail to note the subtle but unstoppable energy that is my momentum. The LEGION of anonymous disinformation agents who operate under so many masks, identities and aliases have exhausted themselves in the process, yet has not affected the momentum of TRUTH in the least. It's all there in the archives. Only a BLIND MAN could not see such glaring Truth.

rk: >> Keep em coming, widdershins. I've got plenty of Storage Space left.

w: > Fill it up any way you wish, Raytard.

rk: >> Aren't computer records wonderful for establishing and maintaining documentable evidence? Especially when copies for safekeeping are kept in the hands of others.

w: > They are also vulnerable to tampering, post-editing, and magnetic interference. EMP can royally fuck up your coveted archive. You think Mind Control Central (tinmcc) doesn't know where you've stashed your paranoia?

rk: What an excellent example of *Opposition* to harmony and peace you provide. Rather SATANIC, isn't it?

rk: >> Consider the archiving of this post a public service to a forgetful SATANIST -- one who may someday wish to forget that he pointedly boasted of being a trained killer; i.e., "I am able to slit your throat with the edge of a credit card. Not that I would, it's so messy. Well maybe I might,"

w: > I prefer weapons with better edges, actually. Knives are good, but I actually prefer the broadsword. There's such satisfaction at seeing a body split from sternum to crotch.

rk: Ah! another knee jerk example of SATANIC energy. Clearly only an absolute idiot would deny the source of this distortion thrown into the mix by a SATANIST busily positioning his scarred and distorted MIRROR.

w: > I'm also qualified with crossbow and longbow, although I favor the latter. Silent, long-distance, deadly.

rk: Again, only a blind and unaware IGNORAMUS would boast of such prideful death-oriented accomplishments. Ignorant is the person who refuses to acknowledge the lesson -- "Those who live by the sword perish by the sword."

rk: > By the way, widdershins, that's some Satanic Mind Control Meditative exercise you espouse at the bottom of this post. It serves to reveal just how UNBALANCED you cowardly YAHOOS really are !!

w: It has you shit scared. It serves to perform a social good.

rk: Read the CONTRADICTION IN ESSENCE of the statement above.

rk: Only in a BASSACKWARD world does *shit scared* = "social good!"

rk: By the way, are any of you *Politically Correct-Thinking* IGNORAMUSES out there picking up on the essence of your own Consciousness and who you tend to identify with? Are you seeing how you got that way?

rk: >> As a Cop, bodyguard, and Private Security Company owner over a twenty year span, I dealt with threats and assaults to my person and against my family from Hell's Angels, other biker clubs, and deranged and unbalanced people who have used knives, guns, hammers and any else they could get their hands on to use against me. The point is, I did that for a living for 20 years and I survived. What makes you think you can do what OTHERS COULD NOT DO?

w: > You handled "threats." Just what have *I* threatened to do? Kill you with a credit card? Why don't you file a report with the field office of the Feebs in your area. I'm sure they'd like another chuckle at your expense.

rk: How does that statement go -- " He who laughs last laughs . . . . .?" Repeat after me, widdershins, "It ain't over till it's over -- It ain't over till it's over . . . !!"

w: > People like you are easy. They rely on swagger, and bluff, but when the chips are down, really down, they just can't get it done. Maybe you'd feel safer if you slept with the light on.

rk: People like me stand firmly in the light of truth, our identities known to all, unwavering in the unrelenting onslaught of attack from shadowy *critters* who scamper back and forth from the crevices and holes which protect them in their cowardly anonymous attacks. That's the fact! No swagger or bluff to it!! Think not?

rk: Here's the ultimate test for you, widdershins -- why not back up all of your boastful words with your true identity? You can't do it. Your whole house of cards comes tumbling down at that point, doesn't it?

rk: You see, widdershins, there is no way you can rehabilitate this SATANIC momentum you seek to promote.

rk: It is TRUTH and TRUTH alone which stands, needing no support. Have you not heard the one about when Truth talks, bullshit walks?!!

rk: >> My advice to you, widdershins -- STICK to ACTING and PLAYING WITH YOUR MAKEUP!

w: > My advice to you, Raytard is to quit huffing and puffing. You're making yourself look even more ridiculous. Just what do you think you're going to blow down?

rk: Could well be A SECRET GOVERNMENT! That is, if my hypnotically entranced Brothers and Sisters of this Nation can shake off the spell which binds them.

rk: >> Your penance for being a "good do-be" SATANIST is to do 10 Satanic Meditation techniques (See Bottom of Post) until you begin to imagine that you have achieved MANHOOD, then you have my permission to come back to reality and crawl back into your hole, as any *self-admitted mole* would do.

w: > I've already told you, I'm not a Satanist, and until you can provide the message, complete with headers, that will remain my stance. You've had more than one opportunity to come up with the evidence out of your pile, and you can't get it done. Do you understand now, why you are considered a toothless, nadless, laughable old coot?

rk: To consider a simple man of Truth, a Christ, to be "a toothless, nadless, laughable old coot" is merely one of your many mistakes. However, you already know that; since for you and your anonymous disinformation cohorts, it has now come to be a matter of saving face, has it not? It takes no great focus to see where the SUBSTANCE lies in this post

rk: >> Actually, widdershins, you have provided a great service to the vast numbers of readers who live in constant and reinforced fear at the Satanic level of consciousness. You have revealed the tainted and impotent spirit that is the essence of SATANISM as nothing more than the prattle of illusion-based, shallow, petty word mongers.

w: > Glad you think so, Raytard, but it is you who provide the service. I merely mirror your behaviors back at you. Hell isn't it?

rk: I suggest you trade in that distorted mirror before you resume THAT SATANIC GAME!!

rk: When two mirrors are placed facing each other, the intelligent observer first establishes the quality of the lens of both mirrors. It then becomes clear to the *serious* Truth Seeker which mirror lens is pristine in clarity and which mirror is scarred and distorted.

rk: Hence the intelligent and the *aware* are not drawn into the ad infinitum projections of the reflected distortion without first understanding the source of the *original* distortion.

rk: That is the nature of ALL SATANIC EXORCISMS! The Satanic Intellect is ALWAYS at war with itself. It projects its own demons. It attempts to promote the dualistic "illusion of what is" for the actual, nondualistic *WHAT IS.*

rk: Until the nondualistic Mirror of Truth which resonates *at one* with the infinite *WHAT IS* mirrors such dualistic disorder back to the confused and conditioned intellect, the latter is eternally immersed in its own conditioned ignorance and hasn't a "snowball's chance in you know where" to extricate itself.

rk: Yours, widdershins, is a cheap Satanic Trick, is it not? Project the distortion of your mirror which is your own personal level of consciousness onto another, then hope the ignorant onlooker is too dulled in their own conditioned consciousness to discover the actual source of distortion.

rk: It's not complicated. Here's how SATANIC (dualistic/opposer) momentum confuses the average mind:

rk: Two mirrors -- One clear, the other marred. Unless it is determined at the outset which mirror is marred, when the two face each other the *Mar,* the distortion, is projected AD INFINITUM and the observer, if not balanced, is confused. Isn't that the nature of Hell itself?

rk: >> The Hell of it is -- WORD MONGERING SATANISTS RULE the world of hypnotically controlled Civilized Man, yet the slumbering masses STILL DON'T GET IT!

rk: >> End of Christ Message

w: > Ah, yes. Very Christ like. Our pastor would probably get a good laugh from it.

rk: Sounds like you have THE PASTOR FROM HELL!!

w: > Booga-bogga, Raytard. Here comes that scary old sig again.

Widdershins

w: > Picture yourself near a stream. Birds are chirping in the crisp, cool mountain air. Nothing can bother you here. No one in the world knows about this secret place. You are in total seclusion from that place called "the world." The soothing sound of a gentle waterfall fills the air with a cascade of serenity. The water is so clear that you can easily make out the face of the person whose head you are holding under the water.

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WAKE UP AMERICA! (Was: Threats From a BLOWHARD: Hell, isn't it? (Was: Re: Stepping on NWO/CHRISTIAN/BLOWHARD'S toes!!)

Raymond Karczewski (arkent@arkenterprises.com) wrote:

rk: If the reader will note, all the the responses seen in this thread (excluding this one ) are old responses to other articles I have written in the past.

rk: One disinformation agent needed to stay up last night to post them on this APFN board.

rk: This is precisely what I mean about Disinformation Agents controlling the flow of information on these Forums/Newsgroups while doing so under a multitude of identities.

rk: Perhaps you will note the one from Raymond Karczewski which I certainly did not post to this board last night.

rk: Forgeries are nothing to them. Rules are nothing to them. Spam is nothing to them. They just get around spam by using different aliases.

rk: Yes, I have been asked by the Administrator of the APFN board not to post my articles any further to his (APFN) board. All that was missing were his reasons for doing so.

rk: I will comply with his wishes if the administrator will have the decency to publicly post his reasons for doing so on this public board, and send a copy of it to my email address so that his header and subsequent identity may be confirmed

rk: If it is the flak that my posts draw from government/media sponsored/supported anonymous disinformation agents such as is evidenced in this thread, let him say so.

rk: My articles address the deeper reasons for our world's present plight. If He wants to keep dialogue on the superficial level so as to encourage bloody revolution, then let him say so also.

rk: Wake Up, AMERICA!!

Ray Karczewski
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The following libelous attacks arise from the keyboards of assorted anonymous government/media disinformation agents who, through disruption, intimidation, and character assassination control the flow of information on public Usenet Newsgroups/Forums

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Enough of your kook Mein Kampf Ray!

zarathustra

Tue Sep 11 07:30:30 2001

The EXORCISM CONTINUES: (Was Threats From a BLOWHARD: Hell, isn't it?)

10 Sep 2001 07:45:57 GMT

rk: When a nation's government conditions people to believe that it is a Nation founded in Law, yet refuses to carry out even the least of its law enforcement responsibilities in protecting the rights and privileges of such citizens, THERE IS NO LAW! In such a corrupt society, only the ILLUSION OF LAW prevails.

rk: Could well be A SECRET GOVERNMENT! That is, if my hypnotically entranced Brothers and Sisters of this Nation can shake off the spell which binds them.

rk: >> Actually, widdershins, you have provided a great service to the vast numbers of readers who live in constant and reinforced fear at the Satanic level of consciousness. You have revealed the tainted and impotent spirit that is the essence of SATANISM as nothing more than the prattle of illusion-based, shallow, petty word mongers.

z: Man, you need to stop smoking that home grown and lighten up. You might scare yourself someday. And, please, change that horrid, retina-burning red background on your semi-militant website. Don't you know what they think about the color red?..:p Someone might get ideas, you know?

rk: When two mirrors are placed facing each other, the intelligent observer first establishes the quality of the lens of both mirrors. It then becomes clear to the *serious* Truth Seeker which mirror lens is pristine in clarity and which mirror is scarred and distorted.

z: If I hold a finger between the two mirrors that are facing each other, how many fingers do you see???

rk: Yours, widdershins, is a cheap Satanic Trick, is it not? Project the distortion of your mirror which is your own personal level of consciousness onto another, then hope the ignorant onlooker is too dulled in their own conditioned consciousness to discover the actual source of distortion.

z: Isn't that rather yourself you describe here?

z: It was bad enough having to plow through "Mein Kampf" in school; reading related, incoherent drivel HERE and now really bites. whatever it is you're peddling really has more to do with ab-normal than para-normal, and your Rasputin look-alike countennance should be on every sour cream container to warn the children!

z: *claps hands 3 times at rk*....you can wake up now....you will remember nothing of your previous drivel....you will try to behave within the norms of society and worship the sceptics.. --

z: ta-ta......Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam!

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Keep your racist screeds off Usenet kook

Lou Minatti wrote:

Tue Sep 11 07:28:03 2001

Re: White Man Reservation -- Simple Truth Opens Floodgate of NWO/PATRIOT Bigotry !

On Mon, 03 Sep 2001 02:29:42 -0700,

Raymond Karczewski (arkent@internetcds.com) wrote:

rk: >Ask any old Indian with a long memory now living on an Indian Reservation, about the tactics being used by our government in Klamath Falls Oregon today and he will tell you straight out.

rk: >"White man government take away land, like white man government did with ancestors, destroy Indian way of life, move white man farmers onto FEMA RESERVATIONS.

l : Ray, why is that dialog any less racist than saying blacks sit around eating fried chicken and watermelon or all Irish men are drunks? How do you feel about the stereotype that all Americans of Polish ancestry are stupid, addle-brained dingbats?

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Forcing my spam down people's throats

Raymond Karczewski

Tue Sep 11 07:26:47 2001

A NOTE: Since my posts were censored by THE POWER HOUR Forum Administrator Michael New (Yes, THE Michael New of the US Army/UN Controversy) several months ago, I have continued to send emails of my articles to POWER HOUR hosts Joyce Riley, and Dave Von Kleist. I received the following remove notice via email advising they no longer wanted to receive such emails.

to: "Raymond Karczewski" (arkent@arkenterprises.com)

Subject: Please remove

----- Original Message -----

From: Raymond Karczewski (arkent@arkenterprises.com)

To: (alex@infowars.com); (gulfwar@dam.net); (rush@eibnet.com);

Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 8:42 PM

Subject: Mirror Mirror on the Wall: Who Is The Most Hellish Of Them All?

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Townsquare's had it with this Ray

This is a shameful display Raymond

Tue Sep 11 06:37:20 2001

Shame on you, if you are even capable of understanding how bloody demented this post is. Your asinine fights with people on other boards have nothing to do with us, and I hold your narcissism and violence in utter contempt. You have degenerated into a disgusting parody of yourself, and you ought to be ashamed of being so lacking in character and strength that you cannot bring yourself to look at what you've made yourself. Why doesn't your family get you the medical attention you so desperately need? and why in the name of God would you cross-post this sickening display of natrcissism and psychosis all over? I'll repeat it again, since you really seem intellectyually incapable of understanding even basic English: this has nothing to do with Townsquare, and you've been told to keep your racism and hatred for everyone not yourself off this board.

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Notify Ray's ISP and sue

You're risking problems with this

Tue Sep 11 06:13:58 2001

Not only should the administrator notify your ISP you're engaging in this harassment again, but you can be prosecuted for violation of property rights. This is not a public board, and you have no 1st Amendment rights to spread your shit around here when you've been put on legal notice not to. I for one would be glad to see the point finally made. Someone needs to make limits clear to you once and for all. Kepp these psychotic jags to yourself Ray, got it?

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Townsquare Regular

Just like a roach infestation

Tue Sep 11 06:10:39 2001

You spray, and they abate for a little while, but eventually crawl back out from the woodwork to infest and poison. You really are diseased Ray, and desperately need psychiatic attention. Get it, instead of indulging yourself in delusions of godhood, and spamming your sickness and hate where you've been repeatedly asked not to. Your rage, spite, and racism are sickening, and you were pointedly asked to keep your hate speech off here. Please do so. Your type of out of control disease is obviously rejected here.

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Reaction from Oregon

This hasn't a damned thing to do with Christ

Tue Sep 11 06:05:10 2001

You don't have a clue what Christ was all about. Your meglomaniacal and racist rantings are stupid, offensive, and make perfectly apparent the fact you are severely mentally ill. This has nothing to do with patriotism, so don't drag this garbage here.

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Oregonian

Go to hell already and take this crap with you

Tue Sep 11 06:02:50 2001

And take this garbage with you. Your threats and violence diminish this board, and drag us all down to your vicious, low-life level. Keep it on your own kook website. You have no right to smear your feces all over a legitimate forum.

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Please' don't cross-post this garbage here

Re: The EXORCISM CONTINUES:(Was Threats From a BLOWHARD: (Raymond Karczewski)

Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:57:15GMT

From: Please (unknown)

This guy is violent and ofensive. Please don't cross-post his s**t here. Let him keep it to his own website. It got really bad for a while, and it's best to not encourage him to return.

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It is Ray. He spammed it all over.

Re: This sounds like the real Ray.I'm 90% sure. (or the imitators are getting better.)

Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 12:30:57 GMT

From: Ray's his own perfect victim (unknown)

He really must be completely cracked to not understand what he's doing here. Not a single soul on any of the boards has even an iota of respect for him, and he takes that for proof he's God. Go figure!

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More asinine fights from other boards????????

Re: The EXORCISM CONTINUES: (Was Threats From a BLOWHARD: (Raymond Karczewski)

Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 11:36:44 GMT

From: Who gives a wild f**k??Go stuff yourself (unknown)

Shame on you, if you are even capable of understanding how bloody demented this post is. Your asinine fights with people on other boards have nothing tod o with us, and I hold your narcissism and violence in utter contempt. You have degenerated into a disgusting parody of yourself, and you ought to be ashamed of being so lacking in character and strength that you cannot bring yourself to look at what you've made yourself. Why doesn't your family get you the medical attention you so desperately need? and why in the name of God would you cross-post this sickening display of natrcissism and psychosis all over? I'll repeat it again, since you really seem intellectyually incapable of understanding even basic English: this has nothing to do with Townsquare, and you've been told to keep your racism and hatred for everyone not yourself off this board.

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Government is Perpetuating Their Own Market Place at the Expense of Us and Our Family!

Walter J. Burien, Jr. (CAFRI@aol.com) wrote:

Raymond Karczewski (arkent@arkenterprises.com) wrote:

rk: Walter, my thanks to you for your contributions. It is devastating to the present system, if only the public were to awaken to it. Let others benefit from the courage shown by you and find the courage within themselves to rise up individually and share their experiences with our corrupt government.

rk: Let the Internet newsgroups be inundated with such personal experiences. If we do not organize but instead rise up as individuals -- LOUD, VOCAL INDIVIDUALS -- government cannot possibly continue to ignore our Unalienable Rights and Freedoms.

rk: My intention on the Internet over the last 6 years has been to show others the part that MIND CONTROL plays in the lives of those unaware of their own conditioning and how to break the spell which binds them. They have been conditioned to fear POWER, not understanding that the power they fear is only an illusion given over to the few by the many through their *manufactured collective consent.*

rk: What has been done by corrupt governments MUST BE UNDONE. That is the task which faces courageous individuals who stand firmly within the protective sphere of TRUTH.

Ray Karczewski
RELEASED 09/08/01 - FOR PUBLICATION - WJB

Folks:

Government is Perpetuating Their Own Market Place at the Expense of Us and Our Family!

If this is not stopped, war between the people and those perpetuating their own market place at the public's expense is inevitable.

What has developed over the last 50 years, that is well entrenched at present, is a parasitic corporate regime, that makes substantial money, totaling in the trillions of dollars, from the advancement of crime, drug use, destruction of the family, and extortion of revenue by imposition of excessive unneeded taxation.

These market places, to be successfully perpetuated by the corporate strategy planners, requires the full cooperation of the syndicated media and organized education directing and herding the public to allow for, and obtain their cooperation with the regime's fronted and manipulated agenda.

The above statements are truly qualified, without any doubt, by looking at what "income," "revenue," or "power" structure; crime, drug use, or destruction of the family generates for your city, county, state, or the federal government.

REF: Statistical Section of Your city, county, state, or other local government's: COMPREHENSIVE ANNUAL FINANCIAL REPORTS (CAFR) 1946 - 2001 http//members.aol.com/_ht_a/cafr1/Listings.html

If crime, drug use, and destruction of the family all of a sudden stopped or was greatly reduced, there goes a multi trillion dollar a year industry currently being masterfully managed, expanded, and supported primarily by your tax dollar!

The malignant tumor of crime, drug use, and destruction of the family is not being cut off by intervention from government, but in the alternative it is being carefully expanded and nurtured by government as the courts, social services agencies, and prison systems reap in billions and billions of dollars from marketing strategies government uses to justify their ever increasing bottom line of revenue enhancement and increased generation.

Let's dissect one example of what crime, drug use, and destruction of the family can generate for your city, county, or state: If there is severe illegal drug abuse by a parent, say the mother in a family with two children, and the other parent, the father requests the states intervention to stop it, the expected result would be; verification, and then immediate intervention to stop it. If intervention came into play, the drug abuse could be stopped, and the abuser could be held accountable, and the most important factor of all, the children protected. This being done at nominal expense and time involvement by the state.

BUT, if the state takes no genuine corrective action, perpetuates the break up of that family, allows and then nurtures the drug abuse of the mother in possession of the children, now the courts are guaranteed a lengthily contract of revenue generation, the attorneys that may be involved are guaranteed continued income, the social services programs promoting their psychologists, psychiatrists, drug abuse councilors, are guaranteed income, the children from the family are severely damaged having long term consequences, which in most probability from the consequences of the abuse perpetuated by the state will guarantee substantial future income for the state.

Let us put a dollar value on the state's income from perpetuating this type of occurrence going into a severe degenerative state say for a period of five years;

Now after 5 years, $205,000 expenses generated, and due to the degenerative state of the children's situation perpetuated by the state, the state puts the children into state sponsored foster homes with ongoing psychological, Psychiatric, and medical services provided. The continued "revenue" or "income" now generated, if the state perpetuates their involvement further over a few more years would, could, and is generating over a million dollars income for those involved.

In the alternative, the father of the children is morally and financial drained and damaged as he hopelessly tries to protect his children, under threat by the state of deadly force being used against him if he directly intervenes, with his true opposition not being the abusive other parent but the state perpetuating their income shared by many within the states corporate structure. The father will barely see his children, or have any say as to what his children are exposed to under these circumstances.

This is but one example, in one state, of one family.

And Dred if these tactics are used as a political weapon. Any father can be destroyed, slowly, systematically, and completely.

Wake up and smell the coffee!

THEY ARE PERPETUATING THEIR OWN MARKET PLACE AT OUR AND OUR CHILDREN'S EXPENSE!

No drug abuse, No crime, no breakup of the family, there goes a trillion dollar market place!

Look at the revenue growth applied in this arena over the last 5, 10, 15, 20 years!

It is obscene! Our families are forced into war!

Financial, moral, and spiritual war! The bottom line? We have become food for an arrogant, amoral parasitic regime, fronted-up as a benevolent, constitutionally chartered protector.

Law of physics: A force in motion, will stay in motion, until counteracted by an equal or greater force!

From an awakening of the millions of people of this great country, to the "Basic" fundamental facts that apply to revenue generation accomplished by government, a force of unequaled proportion can, must, and should come into play to counter this created and promoted market place which we, in our apathy or ignorance, allowed to prosper.

REALIZE WHAT CORPORATE GOVERNMENT IS MAKING OFF OF YOU FROM crime, drug use, AND destruction of the family.

Reality held now strong in the hand and close to the heart by those of moral character, and ethics, will make the difference that is necessary.

As we all learned in grade school on the court yard; when the ball is thrown to you, you either catch it, drop it, or say did somebody just throw a ball to me as it hits you.

I pray, and send this communication to the good catchers out there.

Truly Yours,

Walter J. Burien, Jr.

C. E. V. I.

e-mail: CAFR1@aol.com

PS: I am the father in the example shown above.

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AMERICA -- ARE YOU AWAKE??

By Raymond Karczewski

I'm going to only say this once, so pay attention!!!

I TOLD YOU SO!!

Perhaps now you are awake enough to take responsibility for your part in the events of the day. This didn't happen in a vacuum.

It is not too late (actually it is only the beginning). No need to despair. The power to change the course of this Nation lies within your hands. No need YET for a shooting Revolution. To do so would only play into the hands of those who have architected the events of this day, Sept. 11, 2001.

Access the Google Archives under my name, Raymond Karczewski, with the key word "BOYCOTT." Read my articles on how to take back control of your country without resorting to a *bloody* Revolution.

Perhaps now you will understand why both the government, media, and the Patriot leaders have been trying so hard to shut down my contributions to the Internet.

By all means, DO NOT GIVE UP YOUR GUNS. You may not have to use them, but make no mistake about it -- THEY WILL BE YOUR INSURANCE POLICY.

Raymond Karczewski

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America -- ARE YOU AWAKE??

My awakening Brothers and Sisters, now that your attention has been aroused by the events of today, Sept 11, 2001, it is up to you to meet tomorrow with clarity, courage and a new resolve.

Truth is everpresent, never bound by time. It is there for ALL to see, yet few living in the noise of civilized society are able to retain their sensitivity to its subtle whisperings.

Read the following message written on November 29th, 1994. Pay attention to the spirit of Truth contained therein as it speaks to you of unfolding events.

I share this with you so that you may not easily fall asleep again.

Ray Karczewski

Excerpt from "Christs with Amnesia"

Author: Raymond Karczewski

Summary

Now that you have read my letters, may I bring it all together and tell you what I perceive to be underway at the present time. Keep in mind this statement is being written on November 29th, l994.

The everpresent pressures of mind conditioning have brought us to a collective shift in our thinking processes. That shift has brought us to a crisis point in our world. That crisis is manifesting on two levels: political and spiritual. We are being bombarded with media coverage of the supernatural, of the esoteric, of the occult. Our minds are being distracted and misdirected by television, magazines, and newspapers with stories of UFO's, angels, and New Age concepts to replace the old age Christian dogma (at least here in the Western world). We are being set up for a battle under the guise of the End Times. Most of us are terrified by such prospects.

There is nothing new about the New Age. The old name for it was Paganism. It held sway long before Christianity came upon the scene. Make no mistake about it, the battle presently underway is for power--the continued power to control minds. It is the struggle between the powers of the old age (the decentralized sovereign countries) and the (centralized one world government buttressed by a computerized, cashless Big Brother society) New Age. The pendulum has swung back with a new face, but still remains to be business as usual. Nothing has changed. The few elitists and bankers who rule the rest of us still retain their puppeteer's role as they pull the strings and watch governments rise and fall.

As in all intellectual matters based in dualism, such opposite belief systems are required to keep the schism of Hell in operation. It is necessary for leaders to keep us separated into warring factions so that we are desensitized to our humanity and violence becomes our normal daily fare. Population control measures, through the culling out of undesirable members of our society, are presently underway. It's being done through the targeting of the weak, the infirm, the indigent, the drug addict, the elderly, the helpless fetus--anyone and everyone perceived to be a noncontributor to our overpopulated society and world. The face is different, but the heart behind the movement is not much different than that which could be found in Hitler's Germany in the 30's and 40's. It's done through the selective enforcement of laws, allowing certain types of crimes (drugs, drive-by shootings and heavily armed camps of juvenile gangs in the inner city) to be rampant within our cities.

All this goes a long way toward fanning the fears of the general citizenry. It allows government to extract more and more taxes for promised services never to be performed. This population control policy is furthered through the selective process of medical treatment of those suffering from mysterious, uncurable diseases. These diseases cannot shake their lingering, whispered intimations of their man-made origins.

On a worldwide scale, it is accomplished through the ploy of humanitarian overtures which, not unexpectedly, become transformed into military interventions into sovereign lands under the aegis of the benevolent imaged United Nations.

We are being primed to think toward the occult. After the dust settles following the blood bath of Christian and Pagan forces which will decimate our lands, there will be the installation of a Savior. Such a staged event will bring it all together. He will arrive with much advance promotion and will come from outer space. It will not really be so, but the average man by that time will be ready to believe just about anything. It will be staged by the framers of our new one world government, whose foundation will be based on a consolidation of government and religion with the fictitious savior at the helm.

Rather bleak, isn't it? It doesn't have to be. As I said earlier, the crisis is on two levels: political and spiritual. It's all up to you as to what kind of a world you will live in.

You've read my letters. Follow the instructions of your own soul. To those of you who can do this, you will regain the memory of your true nature. It has been with you always, even though you have been blocked from it through the pressure of mind conditioning.

Once you realize who you really are, the new world, a world of peace and understanding, will be your inheritance. For you are the meek; you are the intelligent; you are the new stewards of this earth. You will no longer be endangered. You will understand your Christhood, just as the man Jesus understood His. Perhaps now you understand the true message of your spiritual brother Jesus.

Christs With Amnesia

Copyright © 1995 by Raymond Karczewski

........................... All rights reserved.

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WAKE UP

shadow wrote:

Wed Sep 12 10:17:57 2001

Ray, your information is so "TODAY" Keep it coming. Have you noticed when someone doesn't agree with your concepts, the bad language takes over, thus showing their lack-of intelligence! Open your eyes folks, its our own elected pulling the wool over your eyes. Don't hate those who understand this....spend you time reading, and educating yourselves as to where our ole' USA is headed. Keep up the WARNINGS RAY!!Perhaps, a glimmer of daylight will make it thru to the "sheepl"

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The following libelous attacks arise from the keyboards of assorted anonymous government/media disinformation agents who, through disruption, intimidation, and character assassination control the flow of information on public Usenet Newsgroups/Forums

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Cujo

Your gloating is proof you are infinitely diseased

Wed Sep 12 07:31:29 2001

Raymond Karczewski" wrote in message

> AMERICA -- ARE YOU AWAKE??

> > By Raymond Karczewski

> > I'm going to only say this once so pay attention!!!

> > I TOLD YOU [slap]

Shut the fuck up, ghoul.

Anita should slit your throat.

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Sickened beyond belief by your corruption

Unbelieveable hatred and malice

Wed Sep 12 07:38:47 2001

I always knew you were a goddamned sick motherf**k, but this is beyond belief. You should have died instead of those decent, hard-working people who did nothing more than go to work. I loathe you with every fiber of my being, and sincerely hope if there are subsequent attacks you die a miserable, screaming death like the ones you are gloating over here.

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Malum regnat

Ghoulish Asshole. Go striaght to hell

Wed Sep 12 07:30:15 2001

Let's see what happens when I take out my Ghoul/asshole meter [..../] Just as I thought

"Raymond Karczewski" wrote in message news:3B9E655D.177A26E5@internetcds.com...

AMERICA -- ARE YOU AWAKE??

By Raymond Karczewski

I'm going to only say this once so pay attention!!!

I TOLD YOU SO!!

Perhaps now you are awake enough to take responsibility for your part in the events of the day. This didn't happen in a vacuum.

It is not too late. (actually it is only the beginning) No need to despair. The power to change the course of this Nation lies within your hands. No need YET for a shooting Revolution. To do so would only play into the hands of those who have architected the events of this day Sept. 11, 2001.

Access the Google Archives under my name Raymond Karczewski with the key word "BOYCOTT." Read my articles on how to take back control of your country without resorting to a *bloody* Revolution.

Perhaps now you will understand why both the government and the Patriot leaders have been trying so hard to shut down my contributions to the internet.

By all means, DO NOT GIVE UP YOUR GUNS. You may not have to use them, but make no mistake about it. THEY WILL BE YOUR INSURANCE POLICY.

Raymond Karczewski

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T. E. Epstein

Fuck you you malicious puke

Wed Sep 12 07:29:34 2001

Raymond Karczewski wrote:

> I'm going to only say this once so pay attention!!!

> I TOLD YOU SO!!

> I'm going to only say this once so pay attention!

Fuck you, you stupid, ghoulish, mealy-mouthed, self-serving, pig-ignorant, puke-soaked, excrement-encrusted, brain-dead, blob of puss.

No. I changed my mind. I'll say it again:

Fuck you, you stupid, ghoulish, mealy-mouthed, self-serving, pig-ignorant, puke-soaked, excrement-encrusted, brain-dead, blob of puss.

With all due respect,

--T. Epstein

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Outraged Oregonian

SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU GLOATING GHOUL

Wed Sep 12 07:27:55 2001

You vicious, gloating, ghoulish son of a bitch. Shove your hate right up your ass.

This is beyond belief. GO STRAIGHT TO HELL YOU GODDAMNED FREAK.

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Anonymous

Repost your original attack Ray

Wed Sep 12 08:01:28 2001

All traces of your original post gloating over the sluaghter of thousands has been fully removed from all venues by sane forum administrators.

Please repost it so everyone knows what kind of sick SOB you really are. This follow-up post doesn't convey the sheer malice and glee of the original one. Let the people see what the fuck you really are.

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Usenet condemns your celebration

I hope these words are fully revisited on you

Wed Sep 12 07:56:51 2001

Even for someone as mentally ill as you are, you have gone too far in using this war to promote your own worthless, hate-filled jags against mankind. These past two posts are beyond all bounds of decency, compassion, and human respect, and I sincerely hope all the misery, desperation, and screaming, rending pain yuo celebrate in others is revisited on you a hundredfold.

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Go to hell, forever.

Dancing on graves now Raymond?

Wed Sep 12 07:49:55 2001

You are a revolting son of a bitch, and these past few posts dancing on the graves of thousands of dead shows us the full extent of your malice, hatred, and corruption. Go to hell, forever.

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You are vicious, self-serving corruption

You use slaughter to ADVERTISE your vanity crap????????????

Wed Sep 12 07:47:58 2001

May God damn you Ray forever. It is unforgiveable for you to express such self-serving glee over the mass murder of innocents, but for you to use this immense tragedy as a fucking pretext to hawk your worthless vanity pamphlets is disgusting beyond all belief.

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Reaction from Oregon

You never predicted this sickening fuckhead

Wed Sep 12 07:45:16 2001

Ray, you sickening fuck, not only are you beyond revolting in your gleeful "I told you so" gloating, you never did say this. You claimed and urged AMERICANS to take arms to the streets and start strafing one another down in a civil war. THIS, YOU GODDAMNED A**HOLE, WAS AN EXTERNAL ATTACK BY TERRORISTS, and my only regret is that you were not among the slaughtered. I have always half pitied you in your obvious mental illness. With these smug words you have posted here to revel in the slaughter of our countrymen, however, I HATE YOU.

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All true patriots are in mourning

Keep your screaming disease to yourself

Wed Sep 12 08:10:27 2001

The nation is in mourning you vile creep, except for you, who are celebrating thousands dead, and trying to use their murder for purposes of self-aggrandizement and advertising of worthless, delusional vality essays. You are no patriot, just a low-life, vile cretin who doesn't give a hot damn about the carnage and human toll the terrorism of yesterday took on real human lives. This shows us all what you really are, and that is nothing but unmitigated, raging hatred and disease. I join the other posters in wishing you a speedy trip straight to the hell you so richly deserve.

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A Question for the Town Square Administrator:

Re: AMERICA: ARE YOU AWAKE??? (Raymond Karczewski)

Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 13:51:39 GMT

From: Raymond Karczewski (arkent@arkenterprises.com)

A Question for the Town Square Administrator:

You have been CENSORING my posts, removing them as quickly from your board as they are posted.

My question of you is how do you know which of these posts are actually sent by me. An example: The post AMERICA -- ARE YOU AWAKE?? in this thread WAS NOT SENT BY ME, but by the Government/Media, sponsored/supported Disinformation Agents who stalk and trash my every post no matter where they appear on Usenet and/or forums. Go ahead, check the headers, if you even go that far to validate the posts that appear on your board.

Ray Karczewski

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Every post here is authentic, and you know it

Re: A Question for the Town Square Administrator: (Raymond Karczewski)

Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 14:08:48 GMT

From: Your lying misdirections won't work (unknown)

None of this is made up by any "dsiinformation agents", and everything can be found on the Oregonian Townsquare, APFN, and Usenet/Google sites where they originally appeared. Your attempts to radically sanitize what you do elsewhere, and present your own carefully edited posts and reactions to them in a self-aggrandizing light are being revealed for what they are. Why do you object so strenuously to the full context and truth of your own words and the reactions of your neighbors being revealed in full? The TRUTH must be revealed Ray, and it will be every step of the way. HELL, ISN'T IT?????

Ray Karczewski

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Outraged Oregonian

You're a liar Ray

Wed Sep 12 08:23:44 2001

You wrote that post, and posted to it several Usenet groups, where you were roundly condemned for your malicious attempt to profit from the slaughter of innocent people by advertising your vanity pamphlet here. Anyone can check the Google archives under your name and find it easily enough. For you to try and disavow this basic fact now only underscores how infinitely diseased and opportunistic you are. You are beneath contempt, and I wish you all heartache for your disgusting "I told you so" attitude, procliamed with the highest hopes you might personally make some money off this staggering loss of innocent lives. Moreover, You didn't say America would be attacked from outside sources, so even that is pure lie: you said Americans would take guns to the streets and start a CIVIL war, and you encouraged them to do so repeatedly. You, sir, are a truly revolting parasite, and blight on all decent Oregonians.

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