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bfr: Chadwick Stone aka  Big.Fat.Raymond.Sings.2008@googlemail.com  wrote:

Raymond Karczewski (arkent3@earthlink.net) wrote   

Sept 18, 2008

bfr:  >  Re: Raymond Karczewski Under Attack by Internet FORGERIES.

rk:  NOTE:  Life does not unfold itself  in a vacumn. 

rk:  Heaven on Earth manifests with the oneness of Love, NonDualism, Truth. 

rk:   Hell on Earth arises from Intellectual conflicted, opposing  divisions which spring from dualistic relationships. 

rk:   I have not edited any content below the drawn line below. 

rk:   My purpose for doing so,  is to show Americans the kind of Satanic Influences which rule their minds and form their world view on a daily basis.  It is to show you how you have been made to incrementally adapt to such debasement so as to consider it to be NORMAL. 

rk:  .  People like chadwick stone who operate under a plethora of aliases are dime a dozen in the "dirty tricks" arena of Government and Media.

rk:  They serve no purpose but to occupy newsgroups and forums and misdirect attention away from the important issues ever-forming a more controllable Hell on Earth as it unfolds day by day toward a New World Order.. 

rk:   They pander to the lowest grade of spiritual debasement.  They take up their positions in the shadows, they lay in the gutter and snipe away at anyone whom they perceive to be superior to them, spiritually, intellectually, emotionally.  They do it through organized campaigns of  libel, Defamation, petty gossip, and conjuring up the most debased images the suggestible mind can conceive designed to shock and  wear away the consciousness of  men and women attempting to hold onto their sanity, their balance, their Sovereignty, their Freedom as God created men and women.

rk:  Now I want you folks who are reading this to look at yourselves when you read the comments of just one such disinformation agent.

rk:  Is this the template you wish to follow in living life on Earth?

rk:    Look at rising fear in you.  The Self-Doubt..  Your apathy, Your desire for security.  Your inertia. Your confusion. That did not arise in a vacumn.  You have been condititioned (by your own consent)  into such states of self-enslavement by anonymous cowards like chadwick stone aka bfr until that is the only level you limit yourselves to operate from.  Reaction to Reaction --  Tis the formula for Hell on Earth.

rk:  Read carefully the unedited post below the line.  I have not touched the content.  Observe the projections onto a target by the very one engaged in attack and misdirection. 

rk:  There exists  hundreds, perhaps thousands of articles I have written on the Internet in the last 13 years.  I ask you to read the original article of any thread, picked at random, then observe how the thread disintegrates into mindless idiocy from there.  This is you America.  If not you writing it, you certainly support it with your apathy and inertia.  So what do you say?   Who has made you a victim, a slave?   The answer is NOBODY BUT YOU, YOURSELF.

rk:  It is that lack of responsibility which enslaves you.  It can be traced to all levels of your present consciousness. 

rk:   You have lost your jobs.  More and more of your are in the process oif losing your homes.  More and more of you are winding up in jails and prisons throughout the land. .  Your Rights are ignored by your Public Servant, Your freedom has been stripped away by these same tyrants.  You have worked a lifetime to have the fruits of your labor stolen from you through unconscionable contracts and FUNNY MONEY..  Most of you are hardput to see just how  ignorant you are.  A goodly portion of you are JUST PLAIN STUPID and don't want any other kind of life than slavery.. 

rk:  That is your choice, your free will, your  life.  You have consented it into being your daily manifest existence.  Read the article below the  line, and perhaps you will see just how your life has been destroyed by such satanic mind controllers.

rk:  There are no accidents in Life.  You each get what you deserve. 

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bfr:  >  Quote from: Mentally Ill Ray
Raymond Karczewski Under Attack by Internet FORGERIES.
bfr:  >  How exactly do forgeries attack a person, Ray?

bfr:  >  Quote from: Mentally Ill Ray
bfr:   >  Raymond Karczewski shoots self in foot then complains about his pain  

rk:  >>  You confuse exposure with complaints.  Typical Misdirection.
bfr:  > As usual, the simplest of metaphors flies right over your pointy head.

bfr:  >  Quote from: Mentally Ill Ray
bfr:   >  So many complaints to so many people, why do none of them seem to care?

rk:  >>   I have exposed the charade of a Satanic System of government which assumes mastery over Sovereign People conditioned to believe they are slaves.
bfr:  >  You've exposed only your own inability to interact with others in an amicable manner.

bfr:  >  Quote from: Mentally Ill Ray

bfr:   >>>  You're a jerk, Ray.

rk:  >>  Coming from an anonymous government/media disinformation coward who must hide in shadows, such comment indeed lacks in credibility.  Such is the satanic activity, that seems normal to slaveminded satanic minions.
bfr:   > What you really mean when you hide behind such misdirections is that the truth hurts you.

bfr:  >  Quote from: Mentally Ill Ray
bfr:   >  That is neither an insult nor disinformation, it is an observation, a matter of fact, and the likely reason no one gives a damn.

rk:  >>  Its called apathy, inertia, and despair.  All traits of government-ruled sheeple about to lose their jobs, their homes, their liberty and soon their lives..
bfr:   > My job is quite secure, my home is paid in full, I do what I please, and shall continue to live to a ripe old age.

bfr:  >  Quote from: Mentally Ill Ray
bfr:   >  Your attitude causes other people to not care about your suffering and in some cases causes a number of them to take pleasure in your noisy, wincing reactions.

rk: >>   They compare themselves with the pristine Mirror of Truth, finding themselves lacking.  Such is the spiritual diversion from examining the reflection of themselves staring them right in the face.
bfr:  >   Wrong, they simply are indifferent to you because you're intentionally abrasive.  Makes me wonder what you must have been like as a child.  Tell me, Ray, when you were molesting poultry on that farm, did you ever experiment with other animals?  Were you a goat fucker?  Are you a sheepophile?  Did you ever play ram the lamb?

bfr:  >  Quote from: Goatfucker Ray
bfr:   >  You not only alienate the people who laugh at you, you alienate those who agree with a portion of what you have to say because they didn't endorse your message in it's entirity or failed to stoop to the banality of schmoozing with you.

rk:  >>   Of what import is that to a Mirror of Truth which can only accurately reflect that which stands before it.
bfr:   > Reflecting upon your lack of support must really leave a burning sensation in your nether regions, big boy.

bfr:  >  Quote from: Sheepophile Ray
bfr:   >  But that is all part of your plan, isn't it?  Ray the victim, Ray the abused, poor, poor, pathetic Ray, everyone picks on him.  After 13 years, isn't that goofy cross getting a wee bit heavy to be toting around the Internet?

rk:  >>  Your spin, notwithstanding, you shall never sell the image that I am a victim.  I am what men are, were they not emasculated by the satanic images of government and religions.
bfr:   > You are a wimp and a push over.  Had you an ounce of the courage you claim, you would have already refiled liens on those judges, attorneys, and other folk in Josephine County then posted links to the SOS website as proof.  But you haven't and you won't because you know you'll go to prison.  But alas, you bemoan the emasculated while standing before the mirror of truth, tis a shame you did it to yourself.

bfr:  >  Quote from: Schizophrenic Ray
bfr:   >  A real "Christ" would have been strung up and crucified by the evil Gubbinor Pileiton, by now.  The fact that you haven't been strung up by the government is rather damning to the credibility of some eccentric, self-professed threat to the status quo, is it not?

rk:  >>  Your view is tainted by Satanic Myth.  How did you form such view.  Satanic conditioning, was it not?
bfr:   > I reduced your self-promoted image to a correlate with an easily identified story.

bfr:  >  Quote from: Bipolar Ray
bfr:   >  All things considered, you will probably die in your sleep.  Whether it is peacefully or after suffering a stroke secondary to a hissy fit due to someone else laughing at you is entirely up to you, but there will be no secret government assassins as you have predicted in the past.

rk:  >>  I do not detect a laugh in your statements.

bfr:  >  You're incapable of detecting humor in any form, pumpkin.

bfr:  >  Quote from: Mannequin Assassin Ray
rk:  >> I detect deadly seriousness in working the crowd as a government/media disinformation rabble rouser.
bfr:  >  Watch out for that mirror!  Amusing how the legerdemain of verbal devices fades when turned upon one who plagiarizes them for his own misuse :-)

bfr:  >  Quote from: Intoxicated Ray
bfr:   >  So what will be the fate of that poorly rendered pile of crap you call a website?  It will become cyber debris awaiting final purge by Earthlink.  Once the purge is complete, the storage and bandwidth will probably be used to host pictures of some teenager's mistreated pet ferret, a soccer mom's recipe for banana pudding, or some drunk's memoirs of a football game no one else watched.

bfr:   >  Raymond Karczewski, all traces of you will be reduced to a few Internet personalities occasionally lamenting what a jerk you were and the criminal record and court proceedings on file in Josephine County will be archived to tape and stored in some cave.  Oh, yes, you also have a kook award in your name, don't you?

rk:  >>  Your speculative drool belies a state of wishful thinking.
bfr:  >  It is a much more accurate prediction than any you have ever rendered.  Had any success arresting the afa-b bullies in 13 years?  Collected so much as a cent of those millions you claim JoCo & Oregon owe you?  Foreclosed upon Jamie Eckles with that non existent lien, yet?

bfr:  >  My prediction follows a business model and the demise of your website will occur exactly as I have stated.  You; however; shall never succeed in having anyone arrested or collecting a cent based on your bogus copyrighted name game.

bfr:  >  Quote from: Narcotic Addicted Ray
rk:   >>  Anyone can dispel such illusion by visiting my website with all of its links outling how the real world works behind the Satanic images.
bfr:  >  Not for much longer.  You're due to have a stroke secondary to a hissy fit any day now.

bfr:   > Quote from: Flatulent Ray
bfr:   >  Good God Almighty, it certainly must suck to be you.

rk:  On the contrary.  You are the one hunkering down in fear behind a wall of anonymity while you bluster away illusory misdirection.
bfr:   > You mean misdirecting away from receivership of government checks while preaching to boycott government?  Nah, misdirection is your department, hun.

bfr:  >  Quote from: Morbidly Obese Ray
rk:  >>  Hell, isn't it?
bfr:  >  Your oft used go-nowhere cheap-shot one-liner merely illustrates the Hell in which you have become so comfortable.

Raymond Ronald Karczewski© http://www.arkenterprises.com




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Re: Raymond Karczewski Under Attack by Internet FORGERIES.

Melvin Julius Crist Spiritual Advisor aka Disinformation Agent. wrote:

Raymond Karczewski (http://www.arkenterprises.com) wrote:

Sept 18, 2008   

mjc:  >  The nation is not at fault for a flame war between you and this bfr persona and it is that sort of melodrama that keeps the two of you feeding off each other's negativity.

rk:  There is no flame war going on.  There are only libelous attacks and a defamation campaign directed toward a messenger of Truth who does not engage in argument, but merely MIRRORS the attacks made upon the messenger.  One only has to look at any original article originated  by me in any thread I write, then sit back and observe what takes place.

rk:  Foolish people are blind, they cannot see.  They therefore are easily  controlled and manipulated  through reaction-producing,  psychological hooks based on words with no evidence to back them.

rk:  That is how one can spot a disinformation agent from one who speaks truth.  Its in the energy.  Stupidity does not cope well with its reflection when seen in the Mirror of Truth.

rk:  The term flame war is designed to trivialize a major mind control campaign now underway on the Internet.

mjc:  >    The fault is shared by only two people, neither of whom has been man enough to let this silliness go and engage in meaningful conversation.

rk:  That is your disinformation spin, is it not?.  I do not argue, I Mirror.

mjc:  >  Ray, you say you have something to offer the nation, why not start by offering it to this board in a courteous, respectful manner?

rk:  Truth has no need to pander to unaware levels of consciousness.  Satanic conditioning does.

mjc:  >  Bfr, the few posts you have made that aren't designed to hook Ray touch on some interesting concepts e.g. flying as a sovereign.  Why not concentrate on those ideas?

rk:  mjc.  you're a phony, playing off a fellow disinformation agent, much like a ventriloquist, one talking to his lifeless dummy. Such demonstration only works on the unaware who cannot discriminate between Truth and the Illusion of Truth..

rk:  mjc. you can fool all of the people some of the time, some of the people all of the time, but your future is limited as you cannot fool all of the people all of the time.  Then its time to change identity, hit the ground running and go about schmoozing ignoramuses.

rk:  Presently you are just running interference for chadwick stone aka bfr (big fat raymond)   When others pick up on your subtleties, you like all of the others who stalk me on the internet will just drop away, come back with a new identity, and start all over again.

Raymond Ronald Karczewski© http://www.arkenterprises.com




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Re: Raymond Karczewski Under Attack by Internet FORGERIES.

Magickman  wrote:

Raymond Karczewski (arkent3@earthlink.net) wrote:
   
Sept 19, 2008   
   
mm:  >   My, my, Ray, you do get around, and are quite famous on the web, or infamous, I should say. A quick clusty search on your name turned up some jewels, to be sure....face it Ray, you are making yourself out to be a fool, and making plenty of enemies in the process.

rk:  You're quite selective in your choice of FORGERIES, are you not?

RAYMOND KARCZEWSKI IS A RACIST AND AN ANTISEMITE
http://tinyurl.com/4xvv87

"California man arrested for lewd behavior"
http://tinyurl.com/3rywoq

Raymond Ronald Karczewski was admitted as an inpatient at Salem State
Hospital on Thursday, May 22, 2008 following a suicide attempt.
http://tinyurl.com/3unbkq

Raymond Karczewski Crime Spree: Rapes & beats wife with whiskey bottle then rapes & kills neighbor's goat
http://tinyurl.com/5y8mmn

Karczewski's further misadventures show his alcoholism and hint at
pedophilia http://www.n-n-a.com/recreational/ntopic29271.html

Look what Raymond Karczewski posted to a CHILDREN'S newsgroup
http://tinyurl.com/3qw8ft

Raymond Karczewski Banned from Another Internet Forum
http://tinyurl.com/4l3ls4
something here caught my eye....
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I speak the simple Truth.  You either see it or you don't.  I ask
for no more than that. I ask you to OPEN YOUR EYES. Explanation only
creates satanic reflections which are illusions which pass off as the
actual.  You silly twits cannot see, are incapable of SEEING,  so you
wish to argue, if not with me than with each other and even with
yourselves.  That is the pathetic state of your low level satanic
ruled consciousness.

mm:    Ray, I think you should open your eyes, and do it while you are looking in a mirror. Reading your posts is like reading the rantings of a mental patient, or a sociopath, and as I said earlier, you are very busy creating enemies on the internet, and probably at home too.  Why not take a break, get some help, and then come back here and write like you have a brain, instead of a box of hammers. I am not flaming you, only offering constructive advice, take it or leave it. You are not "Christ" or his messenger, nor are you "God," so stop acting like you know everything, and everybody else is dumb as a post. You have wrapped yourself in a cloak of truth that is just another lie, and you know this in your heat, I am pretty sure. Get help!

rk:  As I have said repeatedly, a multitude of FORGERIES in my name, now flood the Internet.  I have noticed the public that true articles written by me can be found only on my website,  http://www.arkenterprises.com  All others are suspect.

rk:  If you don't find the article there, you are reading FORGERIES.  I now suggest you verify the above forgeries you so blithely employ while  using that very same system of verification.  I did notice that the only true article you selected  was the one you actually take the time to  quote above, i.e., "Raymond Karczewski Banned from Another Internet Forum"
http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialch239.html#Banned

rk:  That is a typical disinformation ploy.  Plant  one contradiction amongst a flurry of FORGERIES and you have have the opportunity to brand me as a liar.  That ploy is repeated throughout the last 13 years. .  I notice you're operating anonymously also.  That along with your slick, selective disinformation article mixed with a paragraph of truth,  brands you suspect, does it not?

rk:  No one says you, or anyone else  have to read my articles, yet there is a tremendous compelling effort to shut me down, by anonymous disinformation cowards who lack the courage to put their true identity behind their spreading of Libel on the Internet. 

rk:  In time, even the average dumbed down American Sheeple cannot escape seeing that simple fact.  It remains proof of the impact I am having on the present march toward a Satanic New World Order.  Hell, isn't it?

  Raymond Ronald Karczewski© http://www.arkenterprises.com




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Re: Raymond Karczewski Under Attack by Internet FORGERIES.

Magickman  wrote:

Raymond Karczewski (arkent3@earthlink.net) wrote:


Sept 19, 2008

mm:  >   Reply with quote  Quote
mm:  >   Hey, nobody is telling you to shut up, or trying to shut you down, we live in America, where we have a thing known as FREE SPEECH.

rk:  Disinformation Agent clothe themselves in the First Amendment Protections, all the while they hide behind aliases, fearing to post their true names like men with backbone, men with integrity  while they cowardly utilize methods designed to destroy 1st amendment free speech protection through vicious, debased, gutter tactics.. 

rk:  None of this would be going on were you required to stand and be held  responsible for your words and action.  The satanic system of mind control is designed to promise freedom and Sovereignty, while it unrelentingly goes about breaking Sovereigns down through fear and self-doubt  making them into slaves and sheeple. 

rk:  If people had the cajones as demonstrated by the unabashed Truth of Raymond Ronald Karczewski©  backing up his words with his true identity, this country would not be in the shape that it is. 

mm:  >    All I was saying is to open YOUR eyes for a change.

rk:  That is just the point. MY EYES ARE OPEN.  Satanic mindcontrollers fear the contagion of such clarity spreading amongst their legions of  mind controlled munchkins.  

rk:  Am I a target?  You bet I am.  When, and if others should find their backbone and understand that, in 13 years, the seemingly unlimited Satanic power of  Government and media  has not been able to silence this one man from living his Truth while they HUNKER DOWN BEHIND A STONEWALL OF SILENCE.  Then and only then will our Constitutional Republic be restored. 

rk:  Mind controlled munchkins live and thrive on fairy tale stories like David and Goliath.  Yet they quake and quiver when observing the real conflict documented in real time, between Truth and Illusion by a living, breathing, flesh-and-blood, sentient, natural man.

mm:  >  I admit your common law principles are for the most part, right on, it's the rest that I have trouble with.

rk:  That's your problem, not mine.  You will notice I do not attempt to save anyone from themselves. I merely put the Truth out there and you can like it or lump it.  If you want to live like cowardly fools, well then, by all means,  do so.  I just MIRROR the obvious while everyone tries to excuse themselves in their collective cowardice and ignorance..

mm:  >    Like acting like you are Christ on Earth, for instance.

rk:  A Christ is a "simple man of Truth"   He is not the mythical satanic illusion which rule the superficial intellects of ignoramuses, the world wide and have made God's Sons into Satan's Slaves. 

rk:  Have I dispelled the Satanic Power of Government and Religion.  You bet I have.  That is what is really going on.  I am a Christ, a simple man of Truth in a world of Satanically ruled minions.  Hell, isn't it?

mm:  >  Why not stop trying to convert everyone here to your way of thinking, and let freedom ring?

rk:  At the point of repeating myself, I am a simple man of Truth.  I put Truth out there.  You may do or not do anything with it. 

rk:  Where do you see me trying to convert anybody?

rk:.  Where do you see me looking for followers?

rk: .  Where do you see me building an organization?  

rk:  The evidence is in and is inescapable, is it not?  , I have exposed to all who have the eyes to see and ears to hear that they live in a world of BASSACKWARDS.  It is a world of confusion, conflict, opposition, and violence.  Hell, isn't it?

mm:  >  I mean, that is why we are here, right? To protect and defend freedom against those who seek to oppress us. I cannot talk to anyone who spews religious drivel and dogma again and again.

rk:  Yet you are doing the very thing you claim you don't want to do.  BASSACKWARD, aren't you?.  Why the compulsion to join yourself in an cowardly collective attack upon someone or something you claim does not concern you.

mm:  >   I have studied the Bible and religions from all over the world, and I refuse to join any one of them, for they are all very cultish, and everyone tries to be the same, and they listen to a man or woman mind control and brainwash them each time they speak. For the record, my own brother is a Christian minister.

rk:  Practice what you preach.  Ignore him.  Ignore Me.  The problem you, and other government/media disinformation agents  share is that YOU CANNOT IGNORE TRUTH.

rk:  Hell, isn't it?

Raymond Ronald Karczewski©




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The Cry of the Spiritual Fence Sitter:  Give me Liberty or Give me Hell!

trixi1  wrote:

Raymond Karczewski (arkent3@earthlink.net) wrote:

Sept 21, 2008.  04:41:56 PM »
   
Re: Raymond Karczewski Under Attack by Internet FORGERIES.

Ray,

t:   >  Don't worry about the rest of us seeing who's really behind all these attacks. We can tell they're from the same people and again, I advise you to ignore these personas. You have shown enough of yourself for us to see that it is not you that they are afraid of, it's your message, the fact that you believe what real freedom is about and want everyone to know.

rk:  I wonder how many understand that, not superficially, but deeply which touches upon the very core of their being.  Superficial agreement means nothing. It is the nature of the untesting, undiscriminating, gullible, codependent blind believer.

t:   >  They don't want us all free. They want us all shackled both physically and spiritually. It is a message that they hone everyday through gov't and media and we must all be aware of it and fight it at all levels.

rk:  That ought to be obvious to most, but look around you at the state of confusion our world is in as most have  lost their spiritual balance, their spiritual clarity, their common sense. 

rk:  The Big Picture indeed tells the story, does it not?  Millions band together in ignorant fellowship waiting for man or Savior to bail them out of their life of Hell, all the while excusing their part in the creation of it.  That is the Threat my articles pose.  If one man who understands his God Given Sovereignty  can stand up alone and back down the Satanic Government of Oregon and Josephine County, what could a nation of such clear sighted, clear actioned men do?

rk:  SOVEREIGNTY is Truth Manifest.  Slavery is an Illusion.  I am every man who desires to live free.  The only difference is I act upon it, while most "dream" about it.

t:   >  Don't fall for their bait--they use ugly words and attack all the time because that is what they are about. They are deceived at every level. They are used and continue to use themselves because they know no differently.

rk:  That doesn't alter the harm they do to others who have been primed all their lives to accept such Satanic conditioning.  Our world is insane, yet everyone blames every one else but themselves for it.

t:   >  I don't believe silencing you is the way to go. I don't believe attacking you is the way to go. I believe that if someone doesn't agree with you, they can ignore your posts. Simple--isn't it. But your words pack a very powerful message that many do not agree with, or they're paid to silence the message. They don't believe in freedom and therefore they attack.

rk:  It is the only weapon available to the ignorant, the blind, the guttersnipes of Hell.

t:   >  Ironic is it not since this site and many others like it are about defending the principles and message of freedom. The whole idea of freedom is not just for this physical body that we inhabit for the ever ongoing spiritual battle that we will face when our time on this earth ends.

rk:  Being Free is the Nature of Divinity which pulses in the heart and soul of every Sovereign man and woman.  Thinking of being free is the satanic image which serves as the carrot dangled before the ass, the beast of burden, goading such corporate asset on to pull their Master's load. 

t:  >  That is something that I do agree with you on and I believe that it is a needed message to share. I do not believe that we are a Christ but we are all part of the body of Christ and that we all have a message to share--one of hope, love, acceptance, truth and permanent spiritual freedom.

rk:  Fair enough for one acting at the stage of "belief".  One day, you shall transcend such dualistic  belief, and you will merge with holistic (nondualistic) Truth.  That is the day, you shall recover from your Spiritual Amnesia and understand what the word "CHRIST" really means (a simple man/woman of Truth).  There is no question that my use of the word Christ is different from the millenia of religious conditioning (before and after the myth of Jesus of Nazareth) which holds the consciousness of millions upon millions slaves of the myth, the graven image. 

rk:   It is that which is most disturbing to people who read my writing.

rk:   It  is that which is disastrous for those who act as remote Satanic mindcontrollers who rule the many.  That is the threat my message poses. 

t:  >   We must share this message with love and not condesending attitude for that loving message does not go hand in hand with pride or superiority.

rk:  I am not condescending in my message.  Look carefully into it and you will see that simple fact.  The condescendence arises as judgment via the  "projected reactions" of those who see themselves as they truly are and go about foolishly attacking the Mirror of Truth.

t:  >  That is the part that I ask you to leave at the door. Please share with openness, love and acceptance for all.

rk:  Again, observe the original message, then watch the fireworks as they arise.  I merely mirror the fireworks, not adding or detracting from them, and let the 'Devil take the Hindmost."  The key to the clarity lost through misdirections are always found in my "original" posts of any newsgroup or forum thread.  What follows is Satanic misdirection. 

t:   >  In this life, we are here for a very short time and it is through the many avenues that we have the ability to use that we can send this message. If one wants to ignore it, that is a choice but if one wants to hear it, then we have an obligation to send that message with love and peace. The rest of it is up to God Himself and that individual.

rk:  To be quiet in the face of attack, to lie fallow when war has been declared upon Truth, is the Greatest Sin of All.  To back down from Truth through threats, intimidation and libel is to capitulate to Satan and hand over the world to such ruling spirit of Hell.

rk:   Freedom requires responsibility, action. 

rk:   Submission to Tyranny is the act of cowardly satanic ruled minions. 

t:   >  Blessings,

trixi1

                    Raymond Ronald Karczewski©



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The Cry of the Spiritual Fence Sitter:  Give me Liberty or Give me Hell!

Raven wrote:

Raymond Karczewski (arkent3@earthlink.net) wrote;

That was no attack upon Trixi. although you are making an effort to make it look that way.  The title did not contain Trixis' name in it.  It was a formatting error when it appeared on the forum.

The title of the article however does go right to the point that if one is living and guided by the images conditioned into his/her mind by remote authority, THEY ARE LIVING IN HELL.   (and that includes just about ALL civilized people.)

You ignorant YAHOOS just don't see the BIG PICTURE, DO YOU?

Jesus of Nazareth spoke in parables to the ignorant of His Time.  To this day, His vague message has been HIJACKED by the Satanist serving Pharisees:  Judges, The MoneyChangers, Bankers, and its enforcers, corporate police, armies, etc.

I DON'T DO PARABLES.  I tell it straight, no Mary Poppins "spoonful of sugar to help the medicine go down."   YOU FOLKS JUST CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH.

WHY?   Because most of you are dumbed down sheeple, and some of you are just plain stupid and cowardly.

There's an old saying, "You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.
Neither can you make a sovereign out of a stupid, prideful slave.

Here's another old saying.  "If the Shoe Fits, wear it!!

Those who have "eyes to see and ears to hear" will not be offended by such direct Truth.

ONLY THIN SKINNED IDIOTS FULL OF THEMSELVES TAKE OFFENSE AT SUCH STATEMENTS.

Raymond Ronald Karczewski©








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THE ISSUE OF SOVEREIGNTY OR SLAVERY IN AMERICA IS PLAYING OUT IN JOSEPHINE COUNTY OREGON

                                                                  By  Raymond Ronald Karczewski©

NOTE:  Here is some background on the real life experiences behind this present issue between the COUNTY OF JOSEPHINE/STATE OF OREGON  and Raymond Ronald Karczewski© and their fictional court's  refusal to prove JURISDICTION over a Sovereign Living, Breathing,Flesh-and-Blood, Sentient, Natural Man.

                                               In Protest -- Hunger Strike Two -- DAY 22

    In protest of the courts continued refusal to answer the challenge of proving jurisdiction over this living, breathing, flesh-and-blood, sentient private man of the sovereign people, I have today, February 3, 2004, apprised the Josephine County authorities that I will not take any food until the twenty-three (23) Proofs of Claim, accompanied by affidavit, submitted to Josephine County District Attorney Clay E. Johnson and the other officials of the county and State of Oregon, have been rebutted, point-by-point, and the courts have resolved this jurisdictional issue in writing as per the law.

                                                          Raymond Ronald Karczewski©

                                                          UPDATE !!   MEDICAL  UPDATE !!

    Tuesday, February 24, 2004:  Prior to Ray's release, both I and my husband Raymond Karczewski© were told by jail personnel that due to lab results of his latest blood test (his potassium level was so low that he was in danger of his heart stopping), he would be taken to the hospital for a medical evaluation and possibly kept for observation due to his then 22-day-long hunger strike in the Josephine County Adult Jail in Grants Pass, Oregon.

    This hunger strike (his second hunger strike while incarcerated at the jail), as was his 33-day hunger strike in 2002, was in protest of his false arrest and false imprisonment by Josephine County Circuit Court judges and District Attorney Clay E. Johnson who have not provenjurisdicton nor answered his twenty-three (23) Proofs of Claim (in other words -- they refuse to follow the law).

    I was told by jail staff that Ray would then be released to "Community Service," which was defined as "to take care of me" during my own recuperation from my recent hospitalization.  Our daughter Lisa has quit her job, and temporarily left her home, husband, and temporarily removed her son (6 years old) from school to come to Oregon to care for me while her dad has been  unlawfully confined in the Josephine County Adult Jail.

    At approximately 3:00PM Tuesday Ray had to phone home "collect".   He told Lisa that he had been driven to Three Rivers Hospital in Grants Pass Oregon, was left at the door, and he needed aride home.  Subsequently Ray told us that Lieutenant Brian Anderson drove him from the jail to Three Rivers Hospital, stopped the patrol vehicle in front of the Emergency Room doors, opened the patrol car door and told Ray that he was on his own as far as seeking medical evaluation and/or care for his physical condition.  Ray told Lisa that he needed to be picked up as he did not have the funds to pay for any medical care needed (a result of his hunger strike in protest of the courts' and the D.A.'s refusal to follow the law).  A friend of ours volunteered to pick Ray up since I did not have enough oxygen and am too weak to do it myself.  Our friend found Ray sitting on the floor in the hospital lobby beneath the phone he had used to call home, andbrought Ray home.

    When Ray arrived home, he was barely able to walk from our friend's van to the house.  His first night home he broke his 22-day-long fast by having a cup of chicken broth and some soup Lisa had made. Ray was very dizzy and unsteady on his feet and upon rising from a chair, dizziness would cause him to fall back onto the chair.  He did not sleep well.  Yesterday Ray had more broth and an omelet Lisa had made.  He went to bed early as he -- still dizzy and very unsteady on his feet -- had pain in both feet. 

    Yesterday morning, I phoned the jail medical department and told them I was outraged by the inhumane and cruel treatment of my husband.  As a result of Ray's lab test, the jail already knew that his health was in serious jeopardy.  To take someone in that condition and drop them off, telling them they were on their own to seek the medical evaluation they had indicated both to Ray and to me that he would be taken to the hospital to receive, is unconscionable.

    At about 4:00AM today (February 25, 2004) Ray called out to Lisa to tell her that he was in great pain and was unable to walk.  I attempted to get medical care to come to our home, but was not successful.  Nobody in the medical community would come to our home to check on him.  At about 2PM this afternoon, I phoned for an ambulance to take Ray to the hospital.  By that time he was crying out with the pain in his feet that had also begun creeping up into his legs.

    Ray is presently in Three Rivers Hospital in Grants Pass, Oregon -- Room 304.  The code to speak to him personally is 7002.  We are waiting for the results of his examination.

    Today I telephoned various court and county officials, and governor Ted Kulongoski's office regarding this outragious conduct by the court and jail personnel.  It seems that everyone and their staff was unavailable to take or return my calls.

    My husband is in no condition to take of me.  The jail medical and regular staff knew that when they took him to the door of Three Rivers Hospital and left him to fend for himself.

    The court's sudden concern for my welfare did not prevent them from having Ray arrested on Jauary 30 and leaving me alone for five days (until our daughter arrived from out of state) to fend for myself,  unable to get firewood from the wood shed to heat the house or to get groceries.  If you are as outraged as I am by this, phone the numbers below and express your concern.

                        Anita Karczewski


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THE ISSUE OF SOVEREIGNTY OR SLAVERY IN AMERICA IS PLAYING OUT IN JOSEPHINE COUNTY OREGON

NOTE:  Here is more  background on the real life experiences behind this present issue between the COUNTY OF JOSEPHINE/STATE OF OREGON  and Raymond Ronald Karczewski© and their fictional court's  refusal to prove JURISDICTION over a Sovereign Living, Breathing,Flesh-and-Blood, Sentient, Natural Man.  Have I not predicted the Future of America.

TYRANTS, HUNGER STRIKES and FREEDOM IN AMERICA

    It has come to my attention that should my hunger strike continue (now in the eighth day), the criminal, conspiratorial Josephine County judges are planning to have me force-fed.  What lengths are they willing to go to in order to cover up their criminal conspiracy-- to simply declare one mentally incompetent for attempting to hold his public officials accountable for their actions?  May I suggest everyone reread the Declaration of Independence -- the document which made this a free, sovereign nation.

    This hunger strike will stop immediately when:

    1.     The courts prove their jurisdiction in personam, over this living, breathing, flesh-and-blood, sentient, sovereign, private man, as is required by law.  The Josephine County courts have refused to do so for the last sixteen months.  When they do, the hunger strike ends, this issue of liberty vs. tyranny ends, and I will once again be a  free man.  Furthermore, the criminal judges and District Attorney will be dealt with by a sovereign people.

    2.     The court orders District Attorney Clay E. Johnson to rebut under oath or affidavit, the twenty-three (23) Proofs of Claim repeatedly sent to him and other agents of the State of Oregon and County of Josephine.  By refusing to rebut, point-by-point, these twenty-three (23) Proofs of Claim, supported by affidavit, District Attorney Johnson has defaulted by law and has thus stipulated to the facts stated by me as being  true.  As such, there exists no controversy and no case.  No one from the State or County has answered a single one of these questions in the last fourteen months.  Their recent tactic has been to accept my registered mailings and return them unopened.  If the non-responsive State and County should answer these questions, the hunger strike would be over, and I would once again be a free man.

    3.     This hunger strike will end when the District Attorney Clay E. Johnson produces in court, anyone who has made a claim against me, supported by affidavit, to be a victim of my actions, places them on the witness stand, and they testify, under oath, to such claim upon their own private unlimited commercial liability.  Despite repeated demands in the last sixteen months, the court has refused to do so.  Common Law states NO VICTIM -- NO CRIME!!  In neither case (02 CR 0617 and 03 CR 0170) has a victim been produced by the State.  I stand upon my unalienable rights and the rights based in Common Law and the Constitution.  This Administrative Court which has jailed me has no jurisdiction over me as I have not contracted, consented or waived my rights and thereby conferred jurisdiction to them.

    It is clear to me that this important issue, upon which hinges the future freedom of a sovereign people, will not be resolved without the intervention of  the sovereign people. My case is a harbinger of what awaits the American public should such tyranny not be stopped in its tracks immediately.  I ask all freedom-minded, sovereign people to act    immediately to compel the Josephine County judiciary and District Attorney's office to simply answer the questions and produce a victim.  That is all that is necessary for justice to be served -- and for a man who has committed no crime to be set free and the true criminals put behind bars,

    "Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?"

       Raymond R. Karczewski©
       Secured Party/Creditor
       Cell 712
       Josephine County Adult Jail
       Grants Pass, Oregon

    Phone numbers to call:
    Governor Kulongoski:   Telephone: (503) 378-3111
    Fax: (503) 378-4863




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