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Re: If your child was involved, what would YOU do?

asterion wrote:

Raymond Karczewski (arkent3@earthlink.net) wrote:

a:  >   Ray, you decided to publish the letter your daughter wrote.

rk:  Indeed I did.  Where else do you find the success of one man, asserting his God-given status as Sovereign,  successfully standing against government on the Internet.  Isn't that worth sharing with millions of hypnotically controlled slaves who cringe and cower in fear at the thought of government?

a:  >   You constantly bang your drum believing that you are the only one who is right

rk:  So far, my actions actually tested in the crucible of the Oregon Courts have been proven to be correct and true, while apathetic slaveminded speculators and theorists  use their energy to vent and justify their ignorance and enslavement.

a:  >   - the rest of the world is wrong & everyone else but you, & whoever you convert, holds the key to your Truth.

rk:  Why do you resent such a simple demonstrable truth made manifest and inarguable?

a:  >   You blame each & every person who doesn't see eye-to-eye with your views & brand them Satanic.

rk:  You hear no blame coming from me.  If you want to embrace stupidity, that is your choice.  What you call blame is nothing more than Spiritual Mirroring, wherein satanically ruled ignoramuses are exposed by their own reflection to themselves and to the world.  Hell, isn't it?

a:  >    I smell megalomania in your posts.

rk:  How does megalomania smell?  Apparently you are familiar with its stench?  From whence do such memories arise.   Are you sure what you are smelling is the odor of another and not yourself exercising satanic power while shrouded by positive imagery?  Is not such positive imagery covering malicious sentiment, the very nature of Satanic diplomacy?

a:  >   You have dictatorial tendencies,

rk:  How so?  Point out just one example of my telling another how they should live their lives.  I merely point to What Is and Mirror those who sting with self-condemnation as they writhe from the pain of their own self-judgment.

a:  >    people of this world should have the RIGHT to follow whatever religion/doctrine they choose, if they find life more tolerable by believing what they believe in then it works for them - it lessens their load. Is there really only ONE TRUTH? If so, prove it!

rk:  Such are the sentiment of slaves who demand they remain undisturbed in their security and comfort, granted them by their satanic masters.. They lack initiative.  They lack responsibility.  They are unwhole human beings. 

rk:   Their only power at such level of satanic diminishment  is derived from their mutual clinging together in Satanic fellowship and as they exercise their satanic power amongst themselves  according to their energy, and devolution of Thought. 

rk:    They are the inhabitants of a satanically ruled, BASSACKWARD world.  You, asterion are a example of such. You will meet the same fate as did kokomojo who withered under the gaze of his own Reflection in the Mirror of Truth, ran away, only to come back when he discovered others supported his limited intellectualism and banded together under anonymous identities  to create the illusion of  strength in numbers, against a single, solitary, simple man of Truth speaking the simple Truth..

a:  >   You are not a free man, you incessantly create a personal hell for yourself.

rk:  I do not create it.  I step into it in order to liberate those who tire of living as slaves.  As are all simple men and women of Truth, Christs, I am on a visitor's pass to Hell, while each of you are bound by your own walls of ignorance. 

a:  >   If you were free then your conscience would also be liberated & you would have no need to keep; defending yourself, trying to justify the existence of YOUR god & forcing it upon others, & cat-calling other members of groups/forums.

rk:  Perhaps you will point out any occasion where and how I defend myself ( that is not merely unsupported opinion) ?  What you see is a balanced consciousness mirroring a sea of ignoramuses who aren't even aware of just how dumb they really are, and prefer to live their lives bound to illusion and not the freedom of Truth.

a:  >   "Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it." Andre Gide

rk:  Another fine example of BASSACKWARD philosophy, is it not?

                       Raymond Ronald Karczewski©


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Re: John Stadtmiller  and Alex Jones soundbyte

aa   wrote:

Raymond Karczewski (arkent3@earthlink.net) wrote:

   
Sat Aug 23, 2008 11:04 pm    


aa:  >   Hi Ray, I got lots of love for both you guys, Alex and you. Both dancing with your talents. Thanks for the opportunity for others to see, what I perceive as, the limitations of awareness that Alex was experiencing at the time of that audio.

rk:  aa, listen and observe carefully to all with whom you come in contact with, personally and remotely, before you begin to use the word "love" to describe your feelings.  Love is all encompassing.  It is holistic in nature,  and resonates in Truth. 

rk:  You and others have  an opportunity to distill your  emotions (love is beyond emotion) when you observe the words of Alex Jones and Raymond Karczewski.

rk:  Jones is a fearmonger, a bully par excellance, an animated rabble rouser who has the talent to work the fears of the group and mold it into a mob mindset.  His counterpart condemned Jesus, while freeing Barabbas.  It was all done through group identification.  He fosters the lynchmob mentality in his listeners. He pulls out all the stops as he bullhorns his way through the world, drawing with him, lemming-like masses of fearful and conflicted people who are influenced by such blatant overtness.  Does Jones' energy pull things together, or create divisions? 

rk:  Love exposes Illusion.  It does not argue with it, thereby giving it one's energy,  one's lifeforce to it.  It disintegrates violence and corruption,as both are but satanic illusions.  It does so, merely by mirroring back to those of a worldly mind, their own undisputed reflection. .  That is sufficient to stop evil in its tracks, for Truth does not fuel the fires of argument and overt violence.  It extinguishes them. 

rk:  Love draws all to itself, for love truly is at the core of all beingness.  It acts much like a lightning rod in relationship, drawing to it the corruption and fear which lies behind the positive masks of civility.  Nothing based in illusion can stand up to it. 

rk:  Mankind has been lost in division and violence since Politics replaced Spirituality as the primary focus of civilized consciousness.  Such is the nature of man's Fall from Grace.

rk:  One who walks among the confused, the conflicted, the victim-minded, the profane, acts as a Mirror to all who glimpse the simple Truth of themselves as they are, not as they think they are.

rk:  Does Jones bring that gift of love to his listeners.  You must answer the question for yourself.  America is being betrayed by such people.  It is time to wake up.  It is time to understand ones Sovereignty, and stop reacting to satanic stimulus being conditioned into them daily by media personal, despite which side of the line of division, they stand.

aa:  >  I'm imagining that you'd feel a heck of a lot happier if Alex at least had accurately acknowledged what your message was in feeding back, even if he didn't agree?

rk:  Truth expresses itself, and lets the devil take the hindmost. It is not goal oriented.  It does not seek power or celebrity.   I  am banned from calling Alex Jones show. ( Listen to  Christ, Censorship, and NWO Shills who control the Radio Airwaves.: http://www.arkenterprises.com/ajcensor.html )
Why?  Therein you will find the answers you seek instead of just identifying such interactions as LOVE.

aa:  >  And, probably excited and hopeful if Alex, or another well known radio personality, would hear and get the awareness out as nation-wide as possible of your 'take simple, powerful, nonviolent action, easily'- message?

rk:  My book and tapes were offered to RBN.  John Stadtmiller  refused to handle them.  One can only imagine the effect of love, (the none prissy kind)   would have on the other commercial businesses handled by RBN.

rk:  It is of no concern whether my book and tapes are embraced by the public. They have been written, they have been recorded,  Truth has been offered.  Their acceptance or rejection dictates their future, not mine.

rk:  My message of "Resist not Evil" through BOYCOTT, BOYCOTT, BOYCOTT, does not serve the commercial agendas of Government, and media,whether it be mainstream and/or alternative. 

rk:  You must understand that you, aa, along with millions of other listeners to these political and patriot "talk shows" are the real power.  You hold the key to freedom in your own hands, but have been made to believe you are hopeless and helpless without satanic leadership.

rk:  The plain and simple fact is that  Patriot talk show networks are profit making enterprises.  They have one edge over the mainstream, corporate sponsored talk shows.  When the money dries up because of overexpansion, or poor management, they go directly to the people using telethon techniques to bail them out with direct contributions.  Where else do you find such a slick solution for monetary problems in  business. 

rk:  Take the power away from the Corporate fear mongers, retain it in your own hands, the hands of the individual, Understand they are dependent on you for their existence, not you upon them.

rk  Such BASSACKWARD twisting of reality in the mass mind  is the Secret power of Satanic mind control.

Peace be with you.

           
                     Raymond Ronald Karczewski©



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Beyond Belief

asterion  wrote:

Raymond Karczewski (arkent3@earthlink.net) wrote:       

Aug. 25, 2008  02:51:29 PM »    

a:  >   I believe that anyone has the right to hold a belief. Whether these beliefs be of atheist, religious, scientific, natural, spiritual, or whatever other nature.

rk:  Belief is illusion. Belief of Truth is still an illusion.  Satanically conditioned minions are bound by belief, despite its positive imagery.  One has to look at the outcome of such positive Imaged beliefs which separate people.  Hell, isn't it?

a:  >    I also believe that people should have the freedom to blend together these beliefs (if it suits them), after all, is any one dogma the one & only correct one?

rk:  Such is the nature of "free choice."  All have the right to chose hell, (which the majority of sheeple do)

a:  >  Who knows? Could be we're staring at a part-finished jigsaw with 50% of the pieces in the wrong places.

rk:  No "could be" about it.  Look at the headlines, observe the state of hell on earth caused by vicious satanists buttressed by masses of blind-believing schnooks and you will see how and why the "road to hell is paved with good intentions." 

a:  >   I object to people, sometimes pseudo-intellectuals, who believe that their belief is the only true one & all others don't count; the... "There is only one true path & it is mine!" &... "My God is better than your god (if you have one or not!)" &... "You will be damned by the Devils of my belief & go to that very same hell if you don't believe what I preach to you" approach - you may know what I mean.

rk:   In our last communication on this forum after withering under the reflection of the Mirror of Truth, you said, and I quote:  "No further posts from me, here. Good-bye."   Now you turn up elsewhere on this forum and continue asserting opinions about that which you have no understanding.  Whats up with that?

a: >   These people, by their very nature, are lacking something. I'm not a psychologist, psychiatrist or theologian but, I do feel that they have an inherent problem. Correct me if I'm wrong.

rk:  No, you're just ignorant of the spiritual content which has been  presented to you and you resent it because you have been exposed to your spiritual limitations and your feelings have been hurt.  Either that or you are a disinformation agent just doing your job.

a: >   Apart from everything being natural & the human brain frantically trying to discover its 'raison d'être' to justify itself, I think, that if there is a True Path - "the Belief of Beliefs", it doesn't lie soley within one specific way of thought; a fusion of many, both known & still unknown to humankind, maybe. We do not, & may never know the answer.

rk:  Spiritually sighted men and women, Christs will resonate with understanding.  Satanic conditioned Blind Believing ignoramuses will never come to the answer for they pridefully  block their own way with such limiting, divisive  beliefs.

a: >    Spiritual/religious belief will never live happily alongside politics,

rk:  The culprit is "belief" in spirituality or politics which divides.  I have no beliefs.  That is incomprehensible to blind believers as they have spiritually limited themselves from the simple Truth, just as you have, and continue to do.  Isn't it time to OPEN YOUR EYES, WAKE UP, and look around at the hell you so pridefully support?

a:  >  the world doesn't learn its lessons very easily; burning heretics at the stake, conquistadores, N.Ireland, & the Middle East to name but a few, past & present. 

rk:  Those people ARE YOU!   Does that come as a surprise to you?

Raymond Ronald Karczewski©



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Re: Government Declares War on Its Sovereign People

grayson gaunt <puedodharma@yahoo.com>

Raymond Karczewski <arkent3@earthlink.net>

gg:  >  Hi Ray,

gg:  >   I realize that you might be a little busy what with answering questions, and, obviously, trying to make a bunch of thick-heads see the light, but I was wondering how you got into the whole sovereign thing, especially after being a cop.  Isn't that like changing sides?

rk:    As a Police Sergeant, I was well versed in enforcement tactics and penal code knowledge and management.  I was completely IGNORANT of the law being enforced at the level of court administration. 

rk:    I like thousands of officers, ignorant of the law beyond their "compartmentalized" training was placed in "harms way" by scamming lawmakers and interpreters intent upon converting Sovereign People into Slaves.  These officers do not understand that they are being sacrificed as "cannon fodder" in enforcing unconstitutional law.

rk:   I woke up after retiring and reading "Cracking the Code, Third Edition" shortly before I was kidnapped, robbed at gunpoint, and held hostage by Corporate armed enforcers on Sept. 5, 2002,  for asserting my Unalienable Right to Liberty, which includes the right to Travel without requiring my having to secure permission through licensing from a servant government to do so. 

rk:  When I did not cave into their threats and strongarm tactics, and began holding officers, i.e.,  judges, district attorneys, unwanted court imposed defense attorneys and Sheriffs accountable for their unlawful behavior, they decided to play hardball and went after me as a "Paper Terrorist."  I was the first test case for the newly passed nationwide Patriot Act in Oregon. 

rk:  I BEAT THEM.  Others have not.  I cannot give you a simple and pat answer to your questions  regarding procedure.  You must understand in your spirit that you are Sovereign, and allow that spirit to guide you.  That is what I attribute my success in maintaining Liberty while others now  languish in prison. 

gg:  >   Right now I'm in school, but I still want to become sovereign.  I know that I need to make a corporation out of my name, and have that represent my strawman corporation, and then, through an affidavit of truth which remains unrebutted and which is entered into the public record via a notary, I will establish the difference between myself and the corporation, and thus be able to have power of attorney for my corporation. 
 
gg:  >   Any help would be much appreciated, and I want to get the ball rolling on this thing!

rk:  Grayson, you're pretty much on your own as you will be sorely tested by corrupted courts who do not follow the law, but will hold you to every jot and tittles of the Law of Mammon.

rk:  However, your comments above indicate you are on track, so far, so good. 

rk:   One thing you can't learn from any book, or from another is your true understanding of yourself as a Son of God, a living, breathing, flesh-and-blood, sentient, natural  Sovereign man of the People.

rk:   The courts, a legal fiction, is granted limited sovereignty by the Sovereign People -- THEIR BOSSES,

rk:  Such legal fiction courts possesss limited jurisdiction only over other legal fictions, hence arises the government created fictional strawmen, i.e. JURISTIC PERSONS  whose name is spelled in ALL CAPITAL LETTERS, the only person they have jurisdiction over. . The courts have no JURISDICTION over Living, Breathing, Flesh-and-Blood, Sentient, Natural men and women, unless the latter agrees to act as a SURETY for the debts of the Juristic Person

rk:  That is the question of Jurisdiction, that the STATE OF OREGON and COUNTY OF JOSEPHINE have refused to answer over the last 6 years. That is why they stand in Commercial Default to the tune of $35,180,000.00 (Thirty Five Million, One Hundred Eighty Thousand Dollars)

rk:  What I have done, each and every man and woman living in this nation can do. 

rk:   The average man's present enslavement is all based in Satanic illusion.  That fact, not understood eludes millions and millions of people tied to their own ignorance of who they truly are and thus have given their consent to their own prosecution (jailing  by contract)  It is that act of ignorance which accounts for their incarceration when charged with victimless, Unconstitutional, Color of Law, Corporate Legislation.  It is all done through Satanic trickery, by Black Robed Pharisees.

rk:  I have been sharing the solution to dealing with the corrupt courts of America with millions of people  and the damned fools only attack me for it.  How dumb can you get?  They will fight to insure their enslavement.

rk:  I was threatened with 35 years of prison.  According to their Unconstitutional Rules, they claim a conviction over me, yet they threw me out of their jail when I refused to accept their offer of Sentencing, a contract (thereby assuring my resultant fate of freedom)

rk:  Two links will help you.  http://www.arkenterprises.com/index11.html  and
http://www.arkenterprises.com/index12.html 

rk:  Beyond that, you and everyone else is on your own when faced with their MOMENT OF TRUTH.

Raymond Ronald Karczewski©


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Beyond Belief

asterion  wrote:

Raymond Karczewski (arkent3@earthlink.net) wrote

a:  >>  Beginning of  Quote from: Ray on August 25, 2008, 07:58:34 PM
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a:  >   I object to people, sometimes pseudo-intellectuals, who believe that their belief is the only true one & all others don't count; the... "There is only one true path & it is mine!" &... "My God is better than your god (if you have one or not!)" &... "You will be damned by the Devils of my belief & go to that very same hell if you don't believe what I preach to you" approach - you may know what I mean.

rk:   In our last communication on this forum after withering under the reflection of the Mirror of Truth, you said, and I quote:  "No further posts from me, here. Good-bye."   Now you turn up elsewhere on this forum and continue asserting opinions about that which you have no understanding.  Whats up with that?

a: >   These people, by their very nature, are lacking something. I'm not a psychologist, psychiatrist or theologian but, I do feel that they have an inherent problem. Correct me if I'm wrong.

rk:  No, you're just ignorant of the spiritual content which has been  presented to you and you resent it because you have been exposed to your spiritual limitations and your feelings have been hurt.  Either that or you are a disinformation agent just doing your job.

Raymond Ronald Karczewski©

a:  >>  end of quote:
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a:   >  Ah, the contented man who's happy because the state allowed him to place a '©' on the end of his name (very posh) - hello again, my friend, how are you? Sold many cassettes via your web site recently?  I see you're still hurling the insults around... how spiritually enlightening!  We really should stop meeting like this!

rk:  and you continue to slither about like a treacherous disinformation snake, fork-tongueing your way through a face-saving, say nothing response to what I have said.  .This in view of your earlier comments. "No further posts from me, here. Good-bye."   Whats up with that?

a:  >   Are you ready now to prove your Truth is the only Truth? (or will you be playing your evasive, tiresome, wordy games again - as per usual?).

rk:  In your time-bound, satanically conditioned intellectual ignorance, you show that you are blind believer of concepts, and therefore are oblivious to the simple fact that Truth is a living, holistic  energy.  It  cannot be proven through compartmentalized, dead  theories,    Truth can only be seen in the "moment of Truth" by an Eyes Wide Open, aware living, breathing, flesh-and-blood, sentient, natural men or women.  . 


rk:  When it comes to the living dead, i.e.,  remotely programmable automatons who have no direct experience of life, , only the dead aftermoment "idea" of Truth is subject to the satanic manipulative tool of proof. 

rk:   Have you not seen by now that that is why you shall  never touch the nondualistic hem of this Christ with your peripheral satanic dualistic debate tactics".  You shall only lay your soul bare until you once again  run away from the pain of exposure  while crying:  "No further posts from me, here. Good-bye."

a:  >  You seem to have a problem with people having their own opinions (Zionists are like that!); must one have to have aquired a doctorate before they qualify to post on a forum?

rk: I have no problems with the opinions of others.  I merely point out that such counterfeit dualistic beliefs are impotent when exposed by nondualistic Truth.  People who base their lives on their own conditioned  opinions live a counterfeit existence, a lie.  . As  such they are slavishly bound by the rules of Satanic Illusion.  Hell, isn't it?

a:  >   You post about the 'Truth' but, you seem to know absolutely nothing about it..

rk:  Such is an empty opinion.  Where is the substance to back up such a statement.  You deal in empty words as do most satanic manipulators.

rk:  Even apes can be trained to operate a keyboard.  That doesn't mean they have the Intelligence to understand what they are typing. That is where most of the internet input by trained idiots  can be classified.

a:  >  not enough to justify its existence, anyway. The difference between us is that I respect & learn from the comments of others whilst you ignore what they say & preach to them your possible 'Truth' (remember my last but one quote for you?). Which brings me around to...

rk:  So where is the conflict with that?  I can spot word manipulating  BS'ers when they seek to ply their satanic trade and I  mirror their spiritual impotence back to them right on the spot --  Just like I have just done with your comments  here and now.    That is the effectiveness a Christ, a simple man or woman of Truth has over treacherous  mind-controlling, disinformation agents who slither about on Internet groups and forums  plying their trade. 

a:  >  & I love this part of the post, Ray©...

a:  >  The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts. Bertrand Russell

a:  >  ' suppose this Nobel Prize winner was a Bassackward nobody, too?

rk:  You said it, not me!

Raymond Ronald Karczewski©



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Re: Beyond Belief

asterion   wrote:

Raven   wrote:

Raymond Karczewski (arkent3@earthlink.net) wrote:
        
a:    >>  You're doing it again, Ray©! You answer statements (in your own way)

rk:  What other way would man of Truth answer?

a:    >>  but, there is always one answer which is conspicuous by its absence, this time it's... Sold many cassettes via your web site recently?

rk:  I never provide info to others who have nothing to say of their own and require the twisting and distorting of another's energy to be used as a pointless attack .  You disinfo folks are vampires.  Being members of the Living Dead, you are required to feed off the life energy of others as you are exposed as lifeless programmable reactionary automatons.  In other words, your not much more than "Artificial Intelligence."

a:  >>    You failed to pull me up on that one! Why? Do they contain your 'Truth'?

rk:  Why don't you purchase the source of information you are salivating at the mouth to  attack.  Fact is you have declared war on truth and you've come to it "shooting blanks", haven't you?.   Not too smart, is it?

a:    >>  & why does a simple man, with the 'Truth' that others aren't privy to, bother with a hell-bound, Satanic, Bassackward no-hoper like me?

rk:  You serve the purpose of being a poster child for any and all satanically programmed, thin skinned, reactionary, prideful, say-nothing  ignoramuses.  It allow other likeminded ignoramuses to see themselves in you, and therefore give them an apportunity to change.

r:  >  raven Quote asterion
& why does a simple man, with the 'Truth' that others aren't privy to, bother with a hell-bound, Satanic, Bassackward no-hoper like me?

r:  >  You know what would be reflected in that "mirror of truth" if Ray were to stand in front of it? A pompous, arrogant, egotistical, self righteous blow hard who seeks validation by engaging those willing to buy his bullshit.

rk:  Ah!  Enter a new anonymous, cowardly  disinformation attacker who comes to the aide of his flailing cohort, postures and poses with strong language, but does it while cowering under the cowardly cover of anonymity.  This behavior is quite typical and can be observed in 13 years of google archives archives and my weblink page:  MEDIA MIND CONTROL , DISINFORMATION AND ATTACKS .http://www.arkenterprises.com/disinfo.html

r:  >   Yes, Ill call it like it is. Anyone that can claim he is a christ and everyone else is ignorant and satanically influenced is either a moron or has his own head shoved up his ass.

rk:  Such intelligent responses,  Do both of you see how silly you both look trying to make the case that I am attacking you?   The viciousness that is experienced in these communication is the reflection of your own actions by the Mirror of Truth.  Mirrors don't attack.  They reflect.

r:  >  He DOES have beliefs. He just won't admit it. Satanic and christ; Christian terms but I bet he doesn't believe in the scriptures.

rk:  I have NO beliefs.  I SEE Truth everywhere I look.  In the instant, I see the truth of two satanically serving  ignoramuses attempting to salvage their defamation campaign gone haywire. 

r:  >   Asterion, mature and wise people can have religious discussions in a civil and cordial manner as you have tried to do.

rk:  raven you came out of the chute exposing your intent without the snake venomed seduction of asterion.  We've never talk to each other, at least under your present handle as "raven".  Yet you seem to have a problem with me.  Your violent outbursts  becomes  "curiouser and curiouser."  It reveals you have an agenda.

r:  >     This is not a waste of time for him, he thrives on insulting others and exalting himself.

rk:  I insult no one. I don't need to exalt myself.  I am who I say I am.  I AM THAT I AM.   I merely ACCURATELY reflect the "unholy"   essence of satanic delivered words back to spiritually crippled, codependent, hell-bound hypocrites who usually  hide behind positive images when manipulating other ignorant sheeple who have lost their ability to perceive Truth

r:  >   It is a waste of time for you and others who are more mature in their spiritual views. 

rk:  raven, "your coming out of the chute" contribution  in this article:  : "You know what would be reflected in that "mirror of truth" if Ray were to stand in front of it? A pompous, arrogant, egotistical, self righteous blow hard who seeks validation by engaging those willing to buy his bullshit"  reflects your style of Spirituality.  Hell, isn't it?

r:  >   Ray, I already know what kind of drivel you are going to type. Dealt with a few just like you. Don't bother.

rk:  Do you see how impotent you really are?  Here I am typing? Do you expect to take such pre-emptive vicious attacks with one you've never communicated with and not BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE. 

rk:   You will note, that is if you have read anything on my website, http://www.arkenterprises.com that a simple man of Truth, A Christ is a mirror of Truth  which holds all satanic minions ACCOUNTABLE for their words and actions, be it at the level of  satanic minions, to satanic Leaders of Government and Religions.

r:  >   This needs to be repeated often around those like you who insult others:I may respect your right to have an opinion, But not your opinion.

rk:  There you go again.  Now review this communication and see just how bereft of substance yours, and asterion's comments truly are.

rk:  Therein lies your panic when you understand just how dumb you are to be arguing with a Mirror.  Mirrors don't argue,  THEY REFLECT!


Raymond Ronald Karczewski©


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No Meltdown Here, Just Further Exposure Of Disinformation Tactics. (Was:  Beyond  Belief)

bfr wrote:

asterion wrote:

Raymond Karczewski (arkent3@earthlink.net) wrote:

August 26, 2008, 11:57:10 PM »

rk:   Note:  As I said earlier, there are disinformation agents working this forum.
Everything said below is a lie. EVERYTHING.

rk:    bfr is Big.Fat.Raymond.Sings.2...@googlemail.com See his contributions on

http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&as_qdr=all&q=Big.Fat.Raymond.S
ings.2...%40googlemail.com&btnG=Search

This is just one of the disinformation agents which have been stalking my writing for over
a decade under a host of aliases.. 

The phony nonexistent newspaper articles were verified  independently and published in
the following article 

Massive Satanic Libel/Defamation Attack Underway Launched Against
Raymond Karczewski, A Christ, A Simple Man of Truth!

Mosheh wrote:

i READ the little stories.. and i checked both the ely times.. and
pacifica tribune for those stories..

and they dont exist.. not even in their archives.

I then... reported to google.. through the complaint section.. that
this person is spreading liablous lies... and is pretending to be your
dead wife.

hopefully Google will do the right thing.

its the least I can do....

-MMAT

rk: Thank You!
Ray
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rk:  If you wish to confirm the truth for yourself, I suggest you contact these newspapers
yourself, and/or take the time to familiarize yourselves with the 13 year defamation
campaign being conducted by Government/Media Disinformation Agents against me on
Google, or my website

rk:  This ought to enlighten you folks to the effect my writings are having on the New
World Order.

rk: It would appear by asterions' response to bfr, that the person using  that fictitious
handle is working this group with him

rk:  These defamation tactics have resulted in my being banned on many, many forums.
see;  http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialchst.htm#CENSORED

bfr: >>     Reply with quoteQuote
I did an Internet search on Ray and found out he is a convicted felon with a lengthy
criminal history.  After noting references to his criminal history I searched for "Raymond
Karczewski" + "arrested" and discovered he has been in trouble all over the western US
for things ranging from public intox & traffic violations to offering drugs to a cops kid in
exchange for sex.

bfr: >> Ray will also stalk you if he knows where you are.  He stalked a Kathy Dean in his
same town, harassing her on the Internet, with frightening telephone calls, and he stole a
bunch of her copyrighted materials and was kicked off his hosting provider as a result.
His brother is trying to have him institutionalized.


bfr: >>   I think the best thing to do is ignore him.  He needs professional help and
engaging him here is probably going to send him into a meltdown.
 
a:  >   Reply with quoteQuote
a:  >  Thanks for your support everyone - we're all hell-bound now!  Cheesy

a:  > I Googled "Raymond Karczewski" + "felon* - look at this link:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atlanta/browse_thread/thread/4137b03bcbcfac8a/fb25
2b150c332b46?lnk=raot


a:  > I think "meltdown" is on the way, bfr.




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Re: No Meltdown Here, Just Further Exposure Of Disinformation Tactics. (Was: Beyond Belief)

bfr  wrote:

Raymond Karczewski (arkent3@earthlink.net) wrote:

rk:  Note:  For those who want to have a feel for the viciousness and deception of the Disinformation Agents Libel Campaign launched by bfr and cohorts.

rk:  1.   Google SHERIFF DAVE DANIEL -- DO YOUR JOB!, Kathy Dean

rk:  2.   Then read: Oh What A Tangled Web We Weave When First We Practice To Deceive!!

rk:  3  Then read:  Lawsuit Threat by Chicken Rescuer

rk:  4. Then read  SHUT DOWN OF SERVICE

rk:  5. But most importantly don't pass this up.  It goes to the heart of KLD's deception.    Here is how Kathy Lynne Dean characterized  the following phone call in her own words,.

rk:   Had I not recorded my call to her answering machine, things might have turned out differently:  :kld: >> "Second, I received a rather frightening phone call from this man today, but  I have caller ID so didn't pick up. What he left on my answering machine  is quite shocking. Since JoCo has a "First Time Doesn't Count" threat law, > there is nothing I can do about it."      hear the actual phone call at http://www.arkenterprises.com/kathyd.rm 

rk:  After that, the disinformation agents began posting forgeries in Kathy Lynn Dean's name, posing as her, flooding the internet with articles attributing them to her as they have forged countless vicious, debased, libelous posts in my name, attributing them to me..

rk:  If you folks reading this are not aware of how our world has gotten to be so screwed up, just look at where we get our world view, Media and Internet.  You will find such satanic mind control  in the heart of these posts of disinformation, libel and defamation by your own Government which allows it to happen and refuses to investigate its citizen's complaints, causing a breakdown in society.  Read:  http://www.petitiononline.com/RayNita1/petition.html

rk:  Ask yourselves, WHO ARE THE REAL TERRORISTS seeking to bring down this Constitutional Republic?  The evidence is right under your noses, but Americans are still asleep.

rk:  This is what I have been dealing with for 13 years, and it is still ongoing as you can see with disinformation agent bfr's sanitized misdirection.

Raymond Ronald Karczewski©


bfr:  >   Ray,

bfr:  >  So you deny being arrested various times and that a jury convicted you of a number of felonies?  You deny being locked up?  You deny that you got into it with a Kathy Dean while her husband was in jail for Chicken Theft?  That your website host never terminated your website for infringing upon her copyrights and that you never telephoned her and that she never said your telephoning her was frightening?  Do you deny that people have tried to have you evaluated for mental illness?


bfr:  >  Think carefully before you answer, this stuff is all documented by you on your website.


bfr:  >  Btw, there is no Moshew posting here so the post you say refutes the articles in the Ely Times and Pacfica Tribune is a phony.


bfr:  >  Looks like the mirror of truth just burned you.  Time for you to morph into some other nym and begin anew.

bfr:  >  *edit*

bfr:  >  Ray, I just learned that you spent years poisoning your wife, aggravating her COPD with poisonous fumes from a woodstove, eventually contributing to her death.  I don't mention this to make you feel more guilty than you already do, but as proof that I'm not your enemy just because I call you on your lies.  I say this as a warning for you to get rid of that woodstove before you kill yourself or other members of your family


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No Meltdown Here, The Meltdown is Occuring in America!

Toma wrote:

Raymond Karczewski (arkent3@earthlink.net) wrote:

t:  >    No offense, but this is very weird. 

rk:   As the title of this article states clearly, there is no Meltdown here.  The Meltdown is occurring in America today.

rk:  The source of such meltdown, is traced to Spiritual deterioration of the America man and woman.

rk:  Toma, yours is an understatement to say the least.

rk:  What is mindboggling about this whole issue of Tyranny in America is that the majority of people who read this actual, first-hand account of  government/media conspiracy to systematically control and disinform the minds of the American people are apt to react just like you have.

rk:  The American People have been dumbed down, kept sedated, rendered inert and impotent. 

rk:   Through their apathy, they are reduced to being ineffectual, weak, herd-driven sheeple foreclosed upon taking any kind of effective action which would rectify such  soul-destroying attacks directed upon them by their servant government, They, the American people,  once a strong Sovereign People, now groveling slaves, made so by the mind control campaigns of  their servant government are limited to making innocuous comments which justify their own inertness, inaction. 

rk:  They will spend endless time complaining, commiserating, and seeking out each others for sympathy, but when they see a man, any man actually standing up alone to such tyranny, they imagine there is something wrong with such a man.  Why?  Because he  disturbs their comfort-security trance state.. 

rk:  Anyone reading of the persecution, prosecution. conspiracy to libel Raymond Karczewski for over a decade, ought to know they too can be selected for such treatment as well. The American People ought to be enraged, animated, demanding justice, yet they wait, wait, wait. 

rk:  What are they waiting for?  They have been conditioned through myth and mysticism to wait for  A SAVIOR!  A Myth to pull them out of their hellish soup.  They have spent their whole lives  in the satanic cauldron  boiling their substance away, waiting to be saved or waiting to die.  Those are the option seen by Slaveminded satanic ruled minions.   That is all they believe they are capable of.  And so, they capitulate or join a fellowship of cowards to attack and silence the lone  man of action, one who is able to demonstrate the impotence of the Law of Mammon, its government and its courts when such man is guided by his own Sovereign, God-given Divine Intelligence.

rk:  There is no question that my articles upset a great many people..  But Why?  Is it not because I rub their noses in their self-imposed soup of fear, cowardice,  enslavement?.  And they don't like it one damned bit.

rk:  Here is a clue America.  I AM A FREE MAN. YOU ARE NOT FREE. The vast majority of you are SLAVES.

rk:   I  have withstood the satanic influences which make men into little boys,  Isn't it time for you guys to GROW UP.  Stop playing cops and robbers, and soldier, along with your make believe fantasies, that keep you inert little boys dreaming of being men.

rk:  The women who attack me are those who normally are able to control the whims and fancies of this world of  little boys, and fear their hold upon such fantasy driven little boys may be lost, should such men WAKE UP, and begin to act like responsible men.

rk:  That, in essence is the Spiritual effect of my writing upon the men and women who communicate on the Internet.

rk:  WAKE UP AMERICA.

Raymond Ronald Karczewski©


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The Peril of Living in a BASSACKWARD World  (Was: The Problem With Ray)

Kokomoj0  wrote:

Raymond Karczewski (arkent3@earthlink.net) wrote:

Aug. 27, 2008

k:  >   Reply with quoteQuote
I am sure Ray will take this as a disinformation frontal attack but I am only going to log in my personal opinion on what he is doing here.

k:  >   Its not what Ray is doing in as much as the government is concerned is incorrect.  To the contrary most of what I have seen so far is pretty much on course.

k:  >   I hope everyone understands that I am for the message, that is the message of the sovereign citizen part of what Ray is about.  Unfortunately that is sort of where it ends for me.

rk:  I AM the message.  In Truth, the Message and the Messager ARE ONE.  It is the satanic (opposer) Intellect which separates the One through its inherent divisive energy of dualism.  I speak Truth.  You hear and respond to your own  limited conceptual grasp, (an illusion) therefore you do not hear holistically. Thus you react to your own limited grasp of Truth (you see your own interpreted reflection of intellectual limitation).  Hence you cannot accept your own judgement of the Truth of your limitation.  So you project blame onto the Mirror which judges nothing.  It merely reflects. 

k:  >   I peaked at a few of the things he is doing in taking back his sovereignty and he seems to have, well everything I seen so far, he seems to have it reasonably right.

rk:  You see only what you want to see. How do you know anything that you can't manifest in your own life?   You miss the importance of the whole.  That is why you attack a simple man of Truth.  You are a victim of your own judgement.  Have you not heard, "Judge not lest Ye be judged."  I am sure you have heard it.  The problem lies in that you do not understand it.

k:  >   Areas where Ray runs into problems,

rk:  Would it not be more accurate had you expressed "Areas where I, run into problems" in understanding what Ray says?

k:  >  and I cant imagine to many people who would not find this as an immediate turn off is the way he compares himself to Christ...  GAK!

rk:  "GAK"??  With such a response, are you not recruiting support of others, possessed of equally spiritually blind, satanically ruled Intellects for your emotional reaction to rejecting the holistic (nondualistic) Truth?  That is the fellowship of ignoramuses which acts as a barrier to spiritual growth.  Organized religions serve that purpose.  They are satanic, BASSACKWARD organizations designed to render and keep Sovereigns enslaved by their own ignorance.

k:  >   I got as far as the first line: "Dialog with Christ" and immediately wanted to click on something else, label him a quack and move on.

rk: Bingo!!  Have you not displayed the reaction of a closed-minded religiously trained  bigot who believes he is worthy of Truth but creates his own barriers through blindly believed satanically conditioned concepts?  Like a computer such individual is self-programmed through positive imaged deceptions and becomes the
the poster boy/girl for GIGO (Garbage In, Garbage Out).  They aspire to Heaven, while they busily engage themselve in creating their own Hell.

k:  >   It mocks Christians, and other religions just laugh and turn to the next page. 

rk:  Wouldn't your statement be more accurate had you express the mirrored interpreting subject mocks the reflection of Christians and other religions seen in the Mirror of Truth?  Does not the laugh cover up for their self-disturbance and so, cause them to flee from the Truth staring them right in the face?

k:  >   Ray may think of himself as a modern day jesus and savior I suppose becuase he does not realize that many have walked in his footsteps before him in this country. 

rk:  Who are they?  Where is the evidence to back up that statement?

rk:  I do not compare myself with the myth of Jesus at all.  I am of the same nondualistic essence of Truth which resonated in the once living, breathing, flesh-and-blood, sentient, natural Man, Son of God who lived some 2000 years ago.

k:  >  Then again maybe he just wants to sell his books.  Anyone else want to chime in on that?

rk:  Whassa matter, you feeling uncomfortable fishing for support for such a nonrelevant judgemental misdirection?

k:  >   Next, while he has lots of knowledge to treat people in a condescending manner who is not attacking him but only testing the waters to see if what he is doing is contiguous and has merit is simply a huge turn off.

rk:  Truth can only be seen.  It cannot be arrive at through blind, linear thought, i.e., Intellectualism.    It is the gift of awareness which opens the spiritual eye of the Spiritual Sighted.  Blind Intellects cannot See, so they create a counterfeit idea of Truth and build their personal reality around it.  That is the Satanic (Opposer) Hell occupied by all, but a few, who respond to my writing.

k:  >   Personally I feel that one attracts more flies with honey than ridicule and belittlement.

rk:  So does BullCrap!!

k:  >   Add that all up and you have a guy who puts himself up as another jesus and the savior of the world,

rk:  I do NO SUCH THING.  I am not anybody's Savior.  I refuse to be anyone's Spiritual Nanny.

k:  >    talks down to people, speaks in abstract religious jargon

rk:  I speak very simply.  It is your previously conditioned, interpretive blocks which creates the illusion of complexity that separates you from such simplicity.

k:  >   that is foreign to all but a very few people on the planet rather than using common language and simply instructing people and sharing his knowledge.

rk:  Were I to do, as you suggest, I would have to support limitation, ignorance, and ultimately, stupidity.  There's the Rub!!

k:  >   Constructive criticism is met with hyperbole, obfuscation, and drama.

rk:  I speak Truth and let the Devil take the hindmost.  Your problem lies with the "Hindmost." 

k:  >   Thats been my experience... how about you all?

rk:  Such comment of yours is an example of seeking out commiserating, like-minded ignoramuses for support of a weakly held idea..  How do you expect to grow spiritually while you follow that Satanic formula?

k:  >   So is it any wonder that people pick on the messenger instead of hearing the message? 

rk:  I, as all other simple men and women of Truth fully understand that being picked on and persecuted goes with the Turf of resonating truth in a land of Satanic illusion.  Christs are NEVER Welcome by IGNORAMUSES.  The concept of Christs held by blind, Satanically ruled conditioned minions cause such simple men and women of Truth to be either worshipped or killed.

k:  >  So although I agree with Rays message I really have to restrain myself from going head to head with him on his approach and attitudes.

rk:  Why?  Have you not intimated the reason?  Have you not been left wanting in grasping the whole, because of your addiction to the limited? 

k:  >     Which of course distracts and destroys the body of the message regardless of its being valid and puts all the focus on the messenger.   Then the message is lost in the mud.

rk:  You are dealing with your own reflection and thus that becomes the barrier of the limited being dissolved into the whole.

k:  >   Thats the way I see it.  There are several others who have gone the same route Ray has and you cant even find them out here they blend in so well.

rk:  Baloney,  If they blend in with Illusion ruled ignoramuses, they cannot be holistic men and women of Truth. 

k:  >   So that is my impression in meeting Ray,

rk:  You have yet to meet me.  You are too busy trying to muck up the mirror so that you needn't take responsibility for the reflection you see as you stand before the Mirror of Truth.

k:  >   how about ya all?  Seen his site?  Am I the only one who can appreciate his message but thinks his approach needs a thourough overhaul?  Whats your impression?

rk:  There you go again.  You are so weak in your position that you require fellowship of other confused and confounded blind believers to ease the pain of your limitation.  Hell, isn't it?

Raymond Ronald Karczewski©
 


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Re:  The Peril of Living in a BASSACKWARD World  (Was: The Problem With Ray):


bfr (Big.Fat.Raymond.Sings.2...@googlemail.com)  wrote: http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&as_qdr=all&q=Big.Fat.Raymond.Sings.2...%40googlemail.com&btnG=Search


asterion wrote


Kokomoj0  wrote


Raymond Karczewski (http://www.arkenterprises.com) wrote:


bfr:   >>>  Ray is mentally ill, he has been for years.  He has been advised to seek a mental evaluation so that he can be properly treated by numerous people ranging from friends to family to judges in his district.


rk:  What's wrong with this picture?  The moderator of this forum  has all the evidence required for establishing a TOS violation, yet allows a platform for such vicious, libelous smears to continue unabated.


rk:  What is the basis for bfr's statements.  What personal info does he possess to make such blanket smear of mental illness?  What is his agenda?


rk:   Josephine County Court Judge Alan Coon in his part of the State of Oregon and County of Josephine's Railroad job of a Sovereign Man beyond their corporate jurisdiction, attempted to force me into a mental evaluation, but it blew up in his face and he wound up being forced into retirement at the peak of his career along with Presiding Court Judge Gerald Neufeld, District Attorney Clay E. Johnson and Sheriff, Dave H. Daniel.  Four men of seemingly limited worldly power GONE -- PFFFT!, just like that.  What does that tell you about the firmness of position of this Living, Breathing, Flesh-and-Blood, Sentient, Natural Man over the tenuous foundation based in the Law of Mammon?


rk:     bfr and his cohorts, steeped in the satanic depths which bind their satanic consciousness,  have manufactured fictitious relatives who don't exist, who then claim I am mentally ill and require treatment.  This folks is what mind control and disinformation is all about.


rk:  I can handle it.  But what If the government/media  used the same tactics directed toward enslaving you?  Could you stand up to it?  That is the reason I have share my extraordinary  experiences with you, while the disinformation agents band together in an assault force to employ the misdirecting tactics of braying in unison: "ITS ALL ABOUT RAY, ITS ALL ABOUT RAY" or claiming that I am "hogging the forum, when I am only setting the record straight when attacked with false, forged, fictitious, libelous charges.


a:  >>  OK, Ray, you've got the attention you obviously crave by hogging the forum. But is it doing you any good?


rk:  That remains to be seen.  It all depends upon whether the moderator wakes up as to how he is being used by professional government/media mind controllers/disinformation agents as his forum is being used as a platform for a pointed campaign of  Conspiracy to Libel.


a:   >>   Why do you choose one which is political/current affairs based when you would be better off sounding off on a religion-based forum? You started quite well but, went downhill quickly when you introduced the religion, Satanic & mirror of truth stuff.


rk:   Politics is a lower level, peripheral Satanic activity.  The real cancer which affects and is destroying  America is indeed spiritual in nature.  Your satanic leaders DO NOT WANT you to be exposed to the real solution, i.e., your re-establishment of your Sovereign Status over your Servant Government.


a:  >>  Being an atheist, your message falls upon deaf ears in my case, I also suspect that there are a few more atheist members of War On You, too. It's like trying to sell ice-making machines to the eskimos.


rk:  I am speaking to those "who have the eyes to see and ears to hear."  My truth falls upon all who hear it, equally.  To the Truthful and balanced, it fail upon them as a refreshing, cooling spring shower, cleansing, and liberating..  To the hellbound, it stings like acid upon the satanic thin-skinned debased consciousness of prideful, corrupted, debased minions who have sold their souls in return for the empty promise of comfort and security.. 


a:  >>   Change tack with your PR, revamp your site, do some market research, & take a little time out to think over some sticking points in your philosophy.


rk:   In your nightmare filled dreams, in your nightmare filled  dreams!!


a:  >  We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light.
Plato


k:  >   Quote from: bfr on Today at 04:41:56 AM


k:  > bfr:  Ray is mentally ill, he has been for years.  He has been advised to seek a mental evaluation so that he can be properly treated by numerous people ranging from friends to family to judges in his district.


k:  >  I am not sure that I would hang him on the insanity peg.  Definitely a man on a mission who seems to have kicked government butt.  The Martin case was kicked back and forth between the state and fed over jurisdictional disputes, and she never spent one second in jail while winning her sovereign status.


rk:  kokomojo, You are learning, but you are your own enemy.being  tied to  your present satanic conditioning which makes it a "Hard Learn."


k:   >   The problem that I see, as I said and as you can see in every post of his is that he puts everyone else down as being stoopid or inferior to him.


rk:  I stand as I AM.  All who read me do so at their own personal level of spiritual development.  If they perceive they are less than what they have previously  believed themselves to be spiritually when standing before the Mirror of Truth,, and thus run helter skelter in avoiding seeing that  it is their own reflection, their own  self-judgment which indicts them, well then, SO BE IT.


k:  >   Had I not done my own research into the matter prior to running into him, I would have just wrote it all off as BS due to his condescending bible thumping approach.


rk:  Then you would have missed the Spiritual Lesson of your life, wouldn't you?


k:  >    Personally I do not see his style and approach as a means of winning anyone over to his position and rather I see it as a means of scaring literally everyone away.   Especially someone who has not previously looked into the subject.  


rk:  Truth cannot be studied.  It can only be seen in the Eternal moment of NOW.  .  It requires timeless, spiritual awareness which arises from balanced discrimination.


rk;  My message to all is that EVERYONE IS THE ONLY SAVIOR THEY SHALL EVER NEED IN THIS LIFETIME.  All others who willfully remain blind to that fact have already sealed their Satanic Fate.

Raymond Ronald Karczewski©



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Attention State of Oregon Attorney General Hardy Myers:  Investigate this or Let the State of Oregon Taxpayers be Informed  that your office of Oregon Department of Justice is guilty of a Coverup.

To:  Hardy Myers
Oregon Attorney General
Salem Oregon
hardy.myers@state.or.us

Mr. Myers,

    In the past, I have addressed you personally and sent to your office of the Oregon Department of Justice,  an enormous amount of evidence of the on-going Government/Media supported  mind control/disinformation, character assassination, conspiracy to Libel Campaign directed toward myself and my family members.

     To date, you have done nothing about it.  Recently Photoshop altered pictures of my wife labeling her "corpsewife" displaying  her in a state of decomposition along with a "doctored" photo of me which appeared on my Photo link page  was sent to your office as proof to the degree to  which this lengthy, unceasing smear campaign has descended.

  .  Those pictures were removed from the Internet in general by the Photobucket.com server at my demand when I advised them of the vicious nature of the photos, connected with Government/Media sponsored Conspiracy to  Libel campaign. 

     Those responsible at photobucket.com removed the photos immediately.  Why has not your office acted equally as swiftly and responsibly as they have.

    I am posting this on the Internet so that a nation will see how the Oregon State Government has refused to do its job in fighting crime and protecting its citizens thereby contributing to, and bringing on the chaos that shall usher in Martial Law.  I don't have to look abroad to find terrorists in my life. I find them on the Internet, and in my government.

 .  I have retained copies of the photos for evidence  prior to their removal.  see:  http://www.arkenterprises.com/anitaw2.JPG
The computer users of America who expect their Government to protect their rights,  may find the original photos on  my Photo page at http://www.arkenterprises.com/transits.htm 

   Below is just one of the many recent smears conducted by these criminals who operate under a host of false names.  Because of your non=action in the past, they have grown bolder in their lies and smears.  They are creating fictional family members and spreading phony claims of my having been confined at the Salem State Hospital for a mental health commitment. 

   Just what the hell does it take for you, as Attorney General of the State of Oregon  to investigate such horrendous crimes?

   Why are you, Attorney General Hardy Myers, by your appearance of nonaction,  participating is such a criminal conspiracy coverup?

   I am posting this on the Internet.  I damned well expect you to act upon this crime or resign your office and allow someone with integrity to do the job you once swore to the People of Oregon, to do.

               Raymond Ronald Karczewski©
                  Cave Junction Oregon
  

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bfr:  wrote:

Re: The Problem With Ray
« Reply #11 on: Today at 05:22:13 AM »
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Ray at one time had a picture of his brother Abraham on his website back in 1999, he was wearing a commercial pilot's uniform.  They had a falling out when Abraham had Ray committed to Salem State Hospital.  Ray was in there for about a month, was released, went off his medication, and swore he had no brothers.

Ray also has another brother, can't remember his name but Ray waited until his brother's wife or some other relative died and sent him an email whining because everything thinks he (Ray) is "some kind of a nut."  His brother was trying to mourne so the email didn't go over too well & they haven't spoken since.

Ray also had a daughter named Kasia who he abused as a child until she ran away.  She tried to reconcile with him when she got older but he (Ray) didn't like her husband and got on a "I have no daughter" schtick.  She later disclosed that Ray was using drugs and making his kids pray to him.

Ray had his wife send an email (which Ray mostly wrote) to to his mother while she was on her deathbed, attacking her (his mom's) religion.  She died soon after.

This is how Ray treats his family.  He has combed his website every time he has got into it with a member of his family and will remove anything that refers to them, pictures, etc.

Ray is mentally ill and needs to be put back into Salem State Hospital.  I think Abraham might be trying to do that now which is why he posted for Ray to contact him.  Kasia was involved in the same effort as was his other brother
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