asterion wrote:
Raymond Karczewski
(arkent3@earthlink.net) wrote
a: >>
Beginning of Quote from: Ray on August 25, 2008, 07:58:34 PM
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a:
> I object to people, sometimes pseudo-intellectuals,
who believe that their belief is the only true one & all others
don't count; the... "There is only one true path & it is mine!"
&... "My God is better than your god (if you have one or not!)"
&... "You will be damned by the Devils of my belief & go to
that very same hell if you don't believe what I preach to you" approach
- you may know what I mean.
rk: In our
last communication on this forum after withering under the reflection
of the Mirror of Truth, you said, and I quote: "No further posts
from me, here. Good-bye." Now you turn up elsewhere on this
forum and continue asserting opinions about that which you have no
understanding. Whats up with that?
a: >
These people, by their very nature, are lacking something. I'm not a
psychologist, psychiatrist or theologian but, I do feel that they have
an inherent problem. Correct me if I'm wrong.
rk: No, you're
just ignorant of the spiritual content which has been presented
to you and you resent it because you have been exposed to your
spiritual limitations and your feelings have been hurt. Either
that or you are a disinformation agent just doing your job.
Raymond Ronald
Karczewski©
a: >>
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a:
> Ah, the contented man who's happy because the state allowed
him to place a '©' on the end of his name (very posh) - hello
again, my friend, how are you? Sold many cassettes via your web site
recently? I see you're still hurling the insults around... how
spiritually enlightening! We really should stop meeting like this!
rk: and you
continue to slither about like a treacherous disinformation snake,
fork-tongueing your way through a face-saving, say nothing response to
what I have said. .This in view of your earlier comments. "No
further posts from me, here. Good-bye." Whats up with that?
a:
> Are you ready now to prove your Truth is the only
Truth? (or will you be playing your evasive, tiresome, wordy games
again - as per usual?).
rk: In your
time-bound, satanically conditioned intellectual ignorance, you show
that you are blind believer of concepts, and therefore are oblivious to
the simple fact that Truth is a living, holistic energy.
It cannot be proven through compartmentalized, dead
theories, Truth can only be seen in the "moment of
Truth" by an Eyes Wide Open, aware living, breathing, flesh-and-blood,
sentient, natural men or women. .
rk: When it comes
to the living dead, i.e., remotely programmable automatons who
have no direct experience of life, , only the dead aftermoment "idea"
of Truth is subject to the satanic manipulative tool of proof.
rk: Have
you not seen by now that that is why you shall never touch the
nondualistic hem of this Christ with your peripheral satanic dualistic
debate tactics". You shall only lay your soul bare until you once
again run away from the pain of exposure while
crying: "No further posts from me, here. Good-bye."
a: > You
seem to have a problem with people having their own opinions (Zionists
are like that!); must one have to have aquired a doctorate before they
qualify to post on a forum?
rk: I have no problems
with the opinions of others. I merely point out that such
counterfeit dualistic beliefs are impotent when exposed by nondualistic
Truth. People who base their lives on their own conditioned
opinions live a counterfeit existence, a lie. . As such
they are slavishly bound by the rules of Satanic Illusion. Hell,
isn't it?
a:
> You post about the 'Truth' but, you seem to know
absolutely nothing about it..
rk: Such is an
empty opinion. Where is the substance to back up such a
statement. You deal in empty words as do most satanic
manipulators.
rk: Even apes can
be trained to operate a keyboard. That doesn't mean they have the
Intelligence to understand what they are typing. That is where most of
the internet input by trained idiots can be classified.
a: > not
enough to justify its existence, anyway. The difference between us is
that I respect & learn from the comments of others whilst you
ignore what they say & preach to them your possible 'Truth'
(remember my last but one quote for you?). Which brings me around to...
rk: So where is
the conflict with that? I can spot word manipulating BS'ers
when they seek to ply their satanic trade and I mirror their
spiritual impotence back to them right on the spot -- Just like I
have just done with your comments here and now.
That is the effectiveness a Christ, a simple man or woman of Truth has
over treacherous mind-controlling, disinformation agents who
slither about on Internet groups and forums plying their
trade.
a: >
& I love this part of the post, Ray©...
a: > The
whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so
certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts. Bertrand
Russell
a: > '
suppose this Nobel Prize winner was a Bassackward nobody, too?
rk: You said it,
not me!
Raymond Ronald Karczewski©
:]
asterion
wrote:
Raven wrote:
Raymond Karczewski
(arkent3@earthlink.net) wrote:
a:
>> You're doing it again, Ray©! You answer statements
(in your own way)
rk: What other
way would man of Truth answer?
a:
>> but, there is always one answer which is conspicuous by
its absence, this time it's... Sold many cassettes via your web site
recently?
rk: I never
provide info to others who have nothing to say of their own and require
the twisting and distorting of another's energy to be used as a
pointless attack . You disinfo folks are vampires. Being
members of the Living Dead, you are required to feed off the life
energy of others as you are exposed as lifeless programmable
reactionary automatons. In other words, your not much more than
"Artificial Intelligence."
a:
>> You failed to pull me up on that one! Why?
Do they contain your 'Truth'?
rk: Why don't you
purchase the source of information you are salivating at the mouth
to attack. Fact is you have declared war on truth and
you've come to it "shooting blanks", haven't you?. Not too
smart, is it?
a:
>> & why does a simple man, with the 'Truth' that
others aren't privy to, bother with a hell-bound, Satanic, Bassackward
no-hoper like me?
rk: You serve the
purpose of being a poster child for any and all satanically programmed,
thin skinned, reactionary, prideful, say-nothing
ignoramuses. It allow other likeminded ignoramuses to see
themselves in you, and therefore give them an apportunity to change.
r: >
raven Quote asterion
& why does a simple
man, with the 'Truth' that others aren't privy to, bother with a
hell-bound, Satanic, Bassackward no-hoper like me?
r: > You
know what would be reflected in that "mirror of truth" if Ray were to
stand in front of it? A pompous, arrogant, egotistical, self righteous
blow hard who seeks validation by engaging those willing to buy his
bullshit.
rk: Ah!
Enter a new anonymous, cowardly disinformation attacker who comes
to the aide of his flailing cohort, postures and poses with strong
language, but does it while cowering under the cowardly cover of
anonymity. This behavior is quite typical and can be observed in
13 years of google archives archives and my weblink page: MEDIA
MIND CONTROL , DISINFORMATION AND ATTACKS .http://www.arkenterprises.com/disinfo.html
r:
> Yes, Ill call it like it is. Anyone that can claim he
is a christ and everyone else is ignorant and satanically influenced is
either a moron or has his own head shoved up his ass.
rk: Such
intelligent responses, Do both of you see how silly you both look
trying to make the case that I am attacking you? The
viciousness that is experienced in these communication is the
reflection of your own actions by the Mirror of Truth. Mirrors
don't attack. They reflect.
r: > He
DOES have beliefs. He just won't admit it. Satanic and christ;
Christian terms but I bet he doesn't believe in the scriptures.
rk: I have NO
beliefs. I SEE Truth everywhere I look. In the instant, I
see the truth of two satanically serving ignoramuses attempting
to salvage their defamation campaign gone haywire.
r:
> Asterion, mature and wise people can have religious
discussions in a civil and cordial manner as you have tried to do.
rk: raven you
came out of the chute exposing your intent without the snake venomed
seduction of asterion. We've never talk to each other, at least
under your present handle as "raven". Yet you seem to have a
problem with me. Your violent outbursts becomes
"curiouser and curiouser." It reveals you have an agenda.
r:
> This is not a waste of time for him, he
thrives on insulting others and exalting himself.
rk: I insult no
one. I don't need to exalt myself. I am who I say I am. I
AM THAT I AM. I merely ACCURATELY reflect the
"unholy" essence of satanic delivered words back to
spiritually crippled, codependent, hell-bound hypocrites who
usually hide behind positive images when manipulating other
ignorant sheeple who have lost their ability to perceive Truth
r:
> It is a waste of time for you and others who are more
mature in their spiritual views.
rk: raven, "your
coming out of the chute" contribution in this article: :
"You know what would be reflected in that "mirror of truth" if Ray were
to stand in front of it? A pompous, arrogant, egotistical, self
righteous blow hard who seeks validation by engaging those willing to
buy his bullshit" reflects your style of Spirituality.
Hell, isn't it?
r:
> Ray, I already know what kind of drivel you are going
to type. Dealt with a few just like you. Don't bother.
rk: Do you see
how impotent you really are? Here I am typing? Do you expect to
take such pre-emptive vicious attacks with one you've never
communicated with and not BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE.
rk: You
will note, that is if you have read anything on my website, http://www.arkenterprises.com
that a simple man of Truth, A Christ is a mirror of Truth which
holds all satanic minions ACCOUNTABLE for their words and actions, be
it at the level of satanic minions, to satanic Leaders of
Government and Religions.
r:
> This needs to be repeated often around those like you
who insult others:I may respect your right to have an opinion, But not
your opinion.
rk: There you go
again. Now review this communication and see just how bereft of
substance yours, and asterion's comments truly are.
rk: Therein lies
your panic when you understand just how dumb you are to be arguing with
a Mirror. Mirrors don't argue, THEY REFLECT!
Raymond Ronald
Karczewski©
:]
No Meltdown
Here, Just Further Exposure Of Disinformation Tactics. (Was:
Beyond Belief)
bfr wrote:
asterion wrote:
Raymond Karczewski (arkent3@earthlink.net) wrote:
August 26, 2008, 11:57:10 PM »
rk: Note: As I said earlier, there are disinformation
agents working this forum.
Everything said below is a lie. EVERYTHING.
rk: bfr is Big.Fat.Raymond.Sings.2...@googlemail.com
See his contributions on
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&as_qdr=all&q=Big.Fat.Raymond.S
ings.2...%40googlemail.com&btnG=Search
This is just one of the disinformation agents which have been stalking
my writing for over
a decade under a host of aliases..
The phony nonexistent newspaper articles were verified
independently and published in
the following article
Massive Satanic Libel/Defamation Attack Underway Launched Against
Raymond Karczewski, A Christ, A Simple Man of Truth!
Mosheh wrote:
i READ the little stories.. and i checked both the ely times.. and
pacifica tribune for those stories..
and they dont exist.. not even in their archives.
I then... reported to google.. through the complaint section.. that
this person is spreading liablous lies... and is pretending to be your
dead wife.
hopefully Google will do the right thing.
its the least I can do....
-MMAT
rk: Thank You!
Ray
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rk: If you wish to confirm the truth for yourself, I suggest you
contact these newspapers
yourself, and/or take the time to familiarize yourselves with the 13
year defamation
campaign being conducted by Government/Media Disinformation Agents
against me on
Google, or my website
rk: This ought to enlighten you folks to the effect my writings
are having on the New
World Order.
rk: It would appear by asterions' response to bfr, that the person
using that fictitious
handle is working this group with him
rk: These defamation tactics have resulted in my being banned on
many, many forums.
see; http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialchst.htm#CENSORED
bfr: >> Reply with quoteQuote
I did an Internet search on Ray and found out he is a convicted felon
with a lengthy
criminal history. After noting references to his criminal history
I searched for "Raymond
Karczewski" + "arrested" and discovered he has been in trouble all over
the western US
for things ranging from public intox & traffic violations to
offering drugs to a cops kid in
exchange for sex.
bfr: >> Ray will also stalk you if he knows where you are.
He stalked a Kathy Dean in his
same town, harassing her on the Internet, with frightening telephone
calls, and he stole a
bunch of her copyrighted materials and was kicked off his hosting
provider as a result.
His brother is trying to have him institutionalized.
bfr: >> I think the best thing to do is ignore
him. He needs professional help and
engaging him here is probably going to send him into a meltdown.
a: > Reply with quoteQuote
a: > Thanks for your support everyone - we're all
hell-bound now! Cheesy
a: > I Googled "Raymond Karczewski" + "felon* - look at this
link:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atlanta/browse_thread/thread/4137b03bcbcfac8a/fb25
2b150c332b46?lnk=raot
a: > I think "meltdown" is on the way, bfr.
:]
Re:
No Meltdown Here, Just Further Exposure Of
Disinformation Tactics. (Was: Beyond Belief)
bfr wrote:
Raymond Karczewski
(arkent3@earthlink.net) wrote:
rk: Note:
For those who want to have a feel for the viciousness and deception of
the Disinformation Agents Libel Campaign launched by bfr and cohorts.
rk:
1. Google SHERIFF DAVE DANIEL -- DO YOUR JOB!, Kathy Dean
rk:
2. Then read: Oh What A Tangled Web We Weave When First We
Practice To Deceive!!
rk: 3 Then
read: Lawsuit Threat by Chicken Rescuer
rk: 4. Then
read SHUT DOWN OF SERVICE
rk: 5. But most
importantly don't pass this up. It goes to the heart of KLD's
deception. Here is how Kathy Lynne Dean
characterized the following phone call in her own words,.
rk: Had I
not recorded my call to her answering machine, things might have turned
out differently: :kld: >> "Second, I received a rather
frightening phone call from this man today, but I have caller ID
so didn't pick up. What he left on my answering machine is quite
shocking. Since JoCo has a "First Time Doesn't Count" threat law, >
there is nothing I can do about it." hear
the actual phone call at http://www.arkenterprises.com/kathyd.rm
rk: After that,
the disinformation agents began posting forgeries in Kathy Lynn Dean's
name, posing as her, flooding the internet with articles attributing
them to her as they have forged countless vicious, debased, libelous
posts in my name, attributing them to me..
rk: If you folks
reading this are not aware of how our world has gotten to be so screwed
up, just look at where we get our world view, Media and Internet.
You will find such satanic mind control in the heart of these
posts of disinformation, libel and defamation by your own Government
which allows it to happen and refuses to investigate its citizen's
complaints, causing a breakdown in society. Read: http://www.petitiononline.com/RayNita1/petition.html
rk: Ask
yourselves, WHO ARE THE REAL TERRORISTS seeking to bring down this
Constitutional Republic? The evidence is right under your noses,
but Americans are still asleep.
rk: This is what
I have been dealing with for 13 years, and it is still ongoing as you
can see with disinformation agent bfr's sanitized misdirection.
Raymond Ronald
Karczewski©
bfr:
> Ray,
bfr: >
So you deny being arrested various times and that a jury convicted you
of a number of felonies? You deny being locked up? You deny
that you got into it with a Kathy Dean while her husband was in jail
for Chicken Theft? That your website host never terminated your
website for infringing upon her copyrights and that you never
telephoned her and that she never said your telephoning her was
frightening? Do you deny that people have tried to have you
evaluated for mental illness?
bfr: >
Think carefully before you answer, this stuff is all documented by you
on your website.
bfr: >
Btw, there is no Moshew posting here so the post you say refutes the
articles in the Ely Times and Pacfica Tribune is a phony.
bfr: >
Looks like the mirror of truth just burned you. Time for you to
morph into some other nym and begin anew.
bfr: >
*edit*
bfr: > Ray, I just learned that you spent years
poisoning your wife, aggravating her COPD with poisonous fumes from a
woodstove, eventually contributing to her death. I don't mention
this to make you feel more guilty than you already do, but as proof
that I'm not your enemy just because I call you on your lies. I
say this as a warning for you to get rid of that woodstove before you
kill yourself or other members of your family
:]
No Meltdown Here,
The Meltdown is Occuring in America!
Toma wrote:
Raymond Karczewski (arkent3@earthlink.net) wrote:
t: > No offense, but this is very
weird.
rk: As the title of this article states clearly, there is
no Meltdown here. The Meltdown is occurring in America today.
rk: The source of such meltdown, is traced to Spiritual
deterioration of the America man and woman.
rk: Toma, yours is an understatement to say the least.
rk: What is mindboggling about this whole issue of Tyranny in
America is that the majority of people who read this actual, first-hand
account of government/media conspiracy to systematically control
and disinform the minds of the American people are apt to react just
like you have.
rk: The American People have been dumbed down, kept sedated,
rendered inert and impotent.
rk: Through their apathy, they are reduced to being
ineffectual, weak, herd-driven sheeple foreclosed upon taking any kind
of effective action which would rectify such soul-destroying
attacks directed upon them by their servant government, They, the
American people, once a strong Sovereign People, now groveling
slaves, made so by the mind control campaigns of their servant
government are limited to making innocuous comments which justify their
own inertness, inaction.
rk: They will spend endless time complaining, commiserating, and
seeking out each others for sympathy, but when they see a man, any man
actually standing up alone to such tyranny, they imagine there is
something wrong with such a man. Why? Because he
disturbs their comfort-security trance state..
rk: Anyone reading of the persecution, prosecution. conspiracy to
libel Raymond Karczewski for over a decade, ought to know they too can
be selected for such treatment as well. The American People ought to be
enraged, animated, demanding justice, yet they wait, wait, wait.
rk: What are they waiting for? They have been conditioned
through myth and mysticism to wait for A SAVIOR! A Myth to
pull them out of their hellish soup. They have spent their whole
lives in the satanic cauldron boiling their substance away,
waiting to be saved or waiting to die. Those are the option seen
by Slaveminded satanic ruled minions. That is all they
believe they are capable of. And so, they capitulate or join a
fellowship of cowards to attack and silence the lone man of
action, one who is able to demonstrate the impotence of the Law of
Mammon, its government and its courts when such man is guided by his
own Sovereign, God-given Divine Intelligence.
rk: There is no question that my articles upset a great many
people.. But Why? Is it not because I rub their noses in
their self-imposed soup of fear, cowardice, enslavement?.
And they don't like it one damned bit.
rk: Here is a clue America. I AM A FREE MAN. YOU ARE NOT
FREE. The vast majority of you are SLAVES.
rk: I have withstood the satanic influences which
make men into little boys, Isn't it time for you guys to GROW
UP. Stop playing cops and robbers, and soldier, along with your
make believe fantasies, that keep you inert little boys dreaming of
being men.
rk: The women who attack me are those who normally are able to
control the whims and fancies of this world of little boys, and
fear their hold upon such fantasy driven little boys may be lost,
should such men WAKE UP, and begin to act like responsible men.
rk: That, in essence is the Spiritual effect of my writing upon
the men and women who communicate on the Internet.
rk: WAKE UP AMERICA.
Raymond Ronald Karczewski©
:]
The Peril of Living in a BASSACKWARD
World (Was: The Problem With Ray)
Kokomoj0 wrote:
Raymond Karczewski
(arkent3@earthlink.net) wrote:
Aug. 27, 2008
k: > Reply
with quoteQuote
I am sure Ray will take
this as a disinformation frontal attack but I am only going to log in
my personal opinion on what he is doing here.
k: > Its
not what Ray is doing in as much as the government is concerned is
incorrect. To the contrary most of what I have seen so far is
pretty much on course.
k: > I
hope everyone understands that I am for the message, that is the
message of the sovereign citizen part of what Ray is about.
Unfortunately that is sort of where it ends for me.
rk: I AM the
message. In Truth, the Message and the Messager ARE ONE. It
is the satanic (opposer) Intellect which separates the One through its
inherent divisive energy of dualism. I speak Truth. You
hear and respond to your own limited conceptual grasp, (an
illusion) therefore you do not hear holistically. Thus you react to
your own limited grasp of Truth (you see your own interpreted
reflection of intellectual limitation). Hence you cannot accept
your own judgement of the Truth of your limitation. So you
project blame onto the Mirror which judges nothing. It merely
reflects.
k: > I
peaked at a few of the things he is doing in taking back his
sovereignty and he seems to have, well everything I seen so far, he
seems to have it reasonably right.
rk: You see only
what you want to see. How do you know anything that you can't manifest
in your own life? You miss the importance of the
whole. That is why you attack a simple man of Truth. You
are a victim of your own judgement. Have you not heard, "Judge
not lest Ye be judged." I am sure you have heard it. The
problem lies in that you do not understand it.
k: > Areas
where Ray runs into problems,
rk: Would it not
be more accurate had you expressed "Areas where I, run into problems"
in understanding what Ray says?
k: > and
I cant imagine to many people who would not find this as an immediate
turn off is the way he compares himself to Christ... GAK!
rk: "GAK"??
With such a response, are you not recruiting support of others,
possessed of equally spiritually blind, satanically ruled Intellects
for your emotional reaction to rejecting the holistic (nondualistic)
Truth? That is the fellowship of ignoramuses which acts as a
barrier to spiritual growth. Organized religions serve that
purpose. They are satanic, BASSACKWARD organizations designed to
render and keep Sovereigns enslaved by their own ignorance.
k: > I
got as far as the first line: "Dialog with Christ" and immediately
wanted to click on something else, label him a quack and move on.
rk: Bingo!! Have
you not displayed the reaction of a closed-minded religiously
trained bigot who believes he is worthy of Truth but creates his
own barriers through blindly believed satanically conditioned
concepts? Like a computer such individual is self-programmed
through positive imaged deceptions and becomes the
the poster boy/girl for
GIGO (Garbage In, Garbage Out). They aspire to Heaven, while they
busily engage themselve in creating their own Hell.
k: > It
mocks Christians, and other religions just laugh and turn to the next
page.
rk: Wouldn't your
statement be more accurate had you express the mirrored interpreting
subject mocks the reflection of Christians and other religions seen in
the Mirror of Truth? Does not the laugh cover up for their
self-disturbance and so, cause them to flee from the Truth staring them
right in the face?
k:
> Ray may think of himself as a modern day jesus and
savior I suppose becuase he does not realize that many have walked in
his footsteps before him in this country.
rk: Who are
they? Where is the evidence to back up that statement?
rk: I do not
compare myself with the myth of Jesus at all. I am of the same
nondualistic essence of Truth which resonated in the once living,
breathing, flesh-and-blood, sentient, natural Man, Son of God who lived
some 2000 years ago.
k: >
Then again maybe he just wants to sell his books. Anyone else
want to chime in on that?
rk: Whassa
matter, you feeling uncomfortable fishing for support for such a
nonrelevant judgemental misdirection?
k: > Next,
while he has lots of knowledge to treat people in a condescending
manner who is not attacking him but only testing the waters to see if
what he is doing is contiguous and has merit is simply a huge turn off.
rk: Truth can
only be seen. It cannot be arrive at through blind, linear
thought, i.e., Intellectualism. It is the gift of
awareness which opens the spiritual eye of the Spiritual Sighted.
Blind Intellects cannot See, so they create a counterfeit idea of Truth
and build their personal reality around it. That is the Satanic
(Opposer) Hell occupied by all, but a few, who respond to my writing.
k: > Personally
I feel that one attracts more flies with honey than ridicule and
belittlement.
rk: So does
BullCrap!!
k: > Add
that all up and you have a guy who puts himself up as another jesus and
the savior of the world,
rk: I do NO SUCH
THING. I am not anybody's Savior. I refuse to be anyone's
Spiritual Nanny.
k:
> talks down to people, speaks in abstract
religious jargon
rk: I speak very
simply. It is your previously conditioned, interpretive blocks
which creates the illusion of complexity that separates you from such
simplicity.
k:
> that is foreign to all but a very few people on the
planet rather than using common language and simply instructing people
and sharing his knowledge.
rk: Were I to do,
as you suggest, I would have to support limitation, ignorance, and
ultimately, stupidity. There's the Rub!!
k: > Constructive
criticism is met with hyperbole, obfuscation, and drama.
rk: I speak Truth
and let the Devil take the hindmost. Your problem lies with the
"Hindmost."
k: > Thats
been my experience... how about you all?
rk: Such comment
of yours is an example of seeking out commiserating, like-minded
ignoramuses for support of a weakly held idea.. How do you expect
to grow spiritually while you follow that Satanic formula?
k: > So
is it any wonder that people pick on the messenger instead of hearing
the message?
rk: I, as all
other simple men and women of Truth fully understand that being picked
on and persecuted goes with the Turf of resonating truth in a land of
Satanic illusion. Christs are NEVER Welcome by IGNORAMUSES.
The concept of Christs held by blind, Satanically ruled conditioned
minions cause such simple men and women of Truth to be either
worshipped or killed.
k: > So
although I agree with Rays message I really have to restrain myself
from going head to head with him on his approach and attitudes.
rk: Why?
Have you not intimated the reason? Have you not been left wanting
in grasping the whole, because of your addiction to the limited?
k:
> Which of course distracts and destroys the
body of the message regardless of its being valid and puts all the
focus on the messenger. Then the message is lost in the mud.
rk: You are
dealing with your own reflection and thus that becomes the barrier of
the limited being dissolved into the whole.
k: > Thats
the way I see it. There are several others who have gone the same
route Ray has and you cant even find them out here they blend in so
well.
rk:
Baloney, If they blend in with Illusion ruled ignoramuses, they
cannot be holistic men and women of Truth.
k: > So
that is my impression in meeting Ray,
rk: You have yet
to meet me. You are too busy trying to muck up the mirror so that
you needn't take responsibility for the reflection you see as you stand
before the Mirror of Truth.
k:
> how about ya all? Seen his site? Am I the
only one who can appreciate his message but thinks his approach needs a
thourough overhaul? Whats your impression?
rk: There you go
again. You are so weak in your position that you require
fellowship of other confused and confounded blind believers to ease the
pain of your limitation. Hell, isn't it?
Raymond Ronald
Karczewski©
:]
Re: The Peril of Living in a
BASSACKWARD World (Was: The Problem With Ray):
bfr
(Big.Fat.Raymond.Sings.2...@googlemail.com) wrote: http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&as_qdr=all&q=Big.Fat.Raymond.Sings.2...%40googlemail.com&btnG=Search
asterion wrote
Kokomoj0 wrote
Raymond Karczewski (http://www.arkenterprises.com)
wrote:
bfr: >>> Ray is mentally ill, he has been
for years. He has been advised to seek a mental evaluation so
that he can be properly treated by numerous people ranging from friends
to family to judges in his district.
rk: What's wrong with this picture? The moderator of this
forum has all the evidence required for establishing a TOS
violation, yet allows a platform for such vicious, libelous smears to
continue unabated.
rk: What is the basis for bfr's statements. What personal
info does he possess to make such blanket smear of mental
illness? What is his agenda?
rk: Josephine County Court Judge Alan Coon in his part of
the State of Oregon and County of Josephine's Railroad job of a
Sovereign Man beyond their corporate jurisdiction, attempted to force
me into a mental evaluation, but it blew up in his face and he wound up
being forced into retirement at the peak of his career along with
Presiding Court Judge Gerald Neufeld, District Attorney Clay E. Johnson
and Sheriff, Dave H. Daniel. Four men of seemingly limited
worldly power GONE -- PFFFT!, just like that. What does that tell
you about the firmness of position of this Living, Breathing,
Flesh-and-Blood, Sentient, Natural Man over the tenuous foundation
based in the Law of Mammon?
rk: bfr and his cohorts, steeped in the satanic
depths which bind their satanic consciousness, have manufactured
fictitious relatives who don't exist, who then claim I am mentally ill
and require treatment. This folks is what mind control and
disinformation is all about.
rk: I can handle it. But what If the government/media
used the same tactics directed toward enslaving you? Could you
stand up to it? That is the reason I have share my
extraordinary experiences with you, while the disinformation
agents band together in an assault force to employ the misdirecting
tactics of braying in unison: "ITS ALL ABOUT RAY, ITS ALL ABOUT RAY" or
claiming that I am "hogging the forum, when I am only setting the
record straight when attacked with false, forged, fictitious, libelous
charges.
a: >> OK, Ray, you've got the attention you obviously
crave by hogging the forum. But is it doing you any good?
rk: That remains to be seen. It all depends upon whether
the moderator wakes up as to how he is being used by professional
government/media mind controllers/disinformation agents as his forum is
being used as a platform for a pointed campaign of Conspiracy to
Libel.
a: >> Why do you choose one which is
political/current affairs based when you would be better off sounding
off on a religion-based forum? You started quite well but, went
downhill quickly when you introduced the religion, Satanic & mirror
of truth stuff.
rk: Politics is a lower level, peripheral Satanic
activity. The real cancer which affects and is destroying
America is indeed spiritual in nature. Your satanic leaders DO
NOT WANT you to be exposed to the real solution, i.e., your
re-establishment of your Sovereign Status over your Servant Government.
a: >> Being an atheist, your message falls upon deaf
ears in my case, I also suspect that there are a few more atheist
members of War On You, too. It's like trying to sell ice-making
machines to the eskimos.
rk: I am speaking to those "who have the eyes to see and ears to
hear." My truth falls upon all who hear it, equally. To the
Truthful and balanced, it fail upon them as a refreshing, cooling
spring shower, cleansing, and liberating.. To the hellbound, it
stings like acid upon the satanic thin-skinned debased consciousness of
prideful, corrupted, debased minions who have sold their souls in
return for the empty promise of comfort and security..
a: >> Change tack with your PR, revamp your
site, do some market research, & take a little time out to think
over some sticking points in your philosophy.
rk: In your nightmare filled dreams, in your nightmare
filled dreams!!
a: > We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the
dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light.
Plato
k: > Quote from: bfr on Today at 04:41:56 AM
k: > bfr: Ray is mentally ill, he has been for
years. He has been advised to seek a mental evaluation so that he
can be properly treated by numerous people ranging from friends to
family to judges in his district.
k: > I am not sure that I would hang him on the insanity
peg. Definitely a man on a mission who seems to have kicked
government butt. The Martin case was kicked back and forth
between the state and fed over jurisdictional disputes, and she never
spent one second in jail while winning her sovereign status.
rk: kokomojo, You are learning, but you are your own
enemy.being tied to your present satanic conditioning which
makes it a "Hard Learn."
k: > The problem that I see, as I said and
as you can see in every post of his is that he puts everyone else down
as being stoopid or inferior to him.
rk: I stand as I AM. All who read me do so at their own
personal level of spiritual development. If they perceive they
are less than what they have previously believed themselves to be
spiritually when standing before the Mirror of Truth,, and thus run
helter skelter in avoiding seeing that it is their own
reflection, their own self-judgment which indicts them, well
then, SO BE IT.
k: > Had I not done my own research into the
matter prior to running into him, I would have just wrote it all off as
BS due to his condescending bible thumping approach.
rk: Then you would have missed the Spiritual Lesson of your life,
wouldn't you?
k: > Personally I do not see his style and
approach as a means of winning anyone over to his position and rather I
see it as a means of scaring literally everyone away.
Especially someone who has not previously looked into the
subject.
rk: Truth cannot be studied. It can only be seen in the
Eternal moment of NOW. . It requires timeless, spiritual
awareness which arises from balanced discrimination.
rk; My message to all is that EVERYONE IS THE ONLY SAVIOR THEY
SHALL EVER NEED IN THIS LIFETIME. All others who willfully remain
blind to that fact have already sealed their Satanic Fate.
Raymond Ronald Karczewski©
:]
Attention State of Oregon Attorney General
Hardy Myers: Investigate this or Let the State of Oregon
Taxpayers be Informed that your office of Oregon Department of
Justice is guilty of a Coverup.
To: Hardy Myers
Oregon Attorney General
Salem Oregon
hardy.myers@state.or.us
Mr. Myers,
In the past, I have addressed you personally and
sent to your office of the Oregon Department of Justice, an
enormous amount of evidence of the on-going Government/Media
supported mind control/disinformation, character assassination,
conspiracy to Libel Campaign directed toward myself and my family
members.
To date, you have done nothing about it.
Recently Photoshop altered pictures of my wife labeling her
"corpsewife" displaying her in a state of decomposition along
with a "doctored" photo of me which appeared on my Photo link
page was sent to your office as proof to the degree to
which this lengthy, unceasing smear campaign has descended.
. Those pictures were removed from the Internet in general
by the Photobucket.com server at my demand when I advised them of the
vicious nature of the photos, connected with Government/Media sponsored
Conspiracy to Libel campaign.
Those responsible at photobucket.com removed
the photos immediately. Why has not your office acted equally as
swiftly and responsibly as they have.
I am posting this on the Internet so that a nation
will see how the Oregon State Government has refused to do its job in
fighting crime and protecting its citizens thereby contributing to, and
bringing on the chaos that shall usher in Martial Law. I don't
have to look abroad to find terrorists in my life. I find them on the
Internet, and in my government.
. I have retained copies of the photos for evidence
prior to their removal. see:
http://www.arkenterprises.com/anitaw2.JPG
The computer users of America who expect their Government to protect
their rights, may find the original photos on my Photo page
at http://www.arkenterprises.com/transits.htm
Below is just one of the many recent smears conducted by
these criminals who operate under a host of false names. Because
of your non=action in the past, they have grown bolder in their lies
and smears. They are creating fictional family members and
spreading phony claims of my having been confined at the Salem State
Hospital for a mental health commitment.
Just what the hell does it take for you, as Attorney
General of the State of Oregon to investigate such horrendous
crimes?
Why are you, Attorney General Hardy Myers, by your
appearance of nonaction, participating is such a criminal
conspiracy coverup?
I am posting this on the Internet. I damned well
expect you to act upon this crime or resign your office and allow
someone with integrity to do the job you once swore to the People of
Oregon, to do.
Raymond Ronald Karczewski©
Cave Junction Oregon
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bfr: wrote:
Re: The Problem With Ray
« Reply #11 on: Today at 05:22:13 AM »
Reply with quoteQuote
Ray at one time had a picture of his brother Abraham on his website
back in 1999, he was wearing a commercial pilot's uniform. They
had a falling out when Abraham had Ray committed to Salem State
Hospital. Ray was in there for about a month, was released, went
off his medication, and swore he had no brothers.
Ray also has another brother, can't remember his name but Ray waited
until his brother's wife or some other relative died and sent him an
email whining because everything thinks he (Ray) is "some kind of a
nut." His brother was trying to mourne so the email didn't go
over too well & they haven't spoken since.
Ray also had a daughter named Kasia who he abused as a child until she
ran away. She tried to reconcile with him when she got older but
he (Ray) didn't like her husband and got on a "I have no daughter"
schtick. She later disclosed that Ray was using drugs and making
his kids pray to him.
Ray had his wife send an email (which Ray mostly wrote) to to his
mother while she was on her deathbed, attacking her (his mom's)
religion. She died soon after.
This is how Ray treats his family. He has combed his website
every time he has got into it with a member of his family and will
remove anything that refers to them, pictures, etc.
Ray is mentally ill and needs to be put back into Salem State
Hospital. I think Abraham might be trying to do that now which is
why he posted for Ray to contact him. Kasia was involved in the
same effort as was his other brother.
:]