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Many people are observing the Censorship Campaign now underway on the Internet in an attempt to prevent my writings from reaching the "Spirituality Seeking" computer-using public.
Read any of my posts at random. There one sees the relentless assaults upon the messenger, never the message, committed by the same circle of Government/Media sponsored/supported mind controlling disinformation agents who are busily seeding the conditioned, computer-using public with suggestions that the messenger is mentally unstable, a danger to society, and should be put away in a jail or mental facility to protect society.
What are these same cowardly anonymous posters saving society from? Could it be Fundamental Change in the Human Condition? What danger do my writings on the Internet over the past six years pose to our society that should cause such intense concern to those who presently rule us and are attempting to consolidate their power by forcing a "NEW WORLD ORDER" upon us?
I have exposed mind control/disinformation dissemination experiments being conducted upon unwary users of the Internet. The experiments have failed!! If one person can survive the relentless assault upon their human psyche, then ALL CAN!!
I have already survived 6 years of such assault upon my character and reputation by these mind controlling Disinformation Agents. I remain as strong and balanced this day as on the first day that I began to share my Truth with the Internet-using public.
I have exposed the TRUTH about mind control practices used by the few who have ruled the many since the earliest of Civilizations. I have openly shared the secret to Religious and Political Liberation with all who seek freedom in their lives.
There is no question that my writings pose a threat to the "New World Order" and to those behind its promotion.
Each of you reading this have the capability of breaking loose from the bonds of Conditioning. Understand who you truly are and your world, my world, our world will transform itself. That is not a promise. That is a GUARANTEE!
For those who doubt the possibility of what I am saying, I invite you to listen to my sound recording "The Nobody and the Somebody -- The Christ and the Christian" at http://www.arkenterprises.com/nobody.html
Then observe the effects of such simple Truth upon the Status Quo and view the unrelenting and vicious attacks upon its messenger by reading the messages marked with "***" on my bulletin board at http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialchst.htm
IT IS TIME for modern day man to dispell the Myth of Christ and return to the CHRIST STATE of consciousness that is his/her True Estate of Infinite Intelligence.
IT IS NOT TIME for a "New World Order." IT IS TIME for a *NEW WORLD CONSCIOUSNESS!*
Re: Town Square (New Admin)
unk: I've investigated your claims and they're a lie.
Re: The Emergence of the Christ State!! (Raymond Karczewski)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 20:30:54 GMT
From: No law school ever admitted you (unknown)
unk: Ray, your time is up. I investigated your claims about going to law school, and no law school in California has any record of you being admitted at any time during the 60s or 70s. Why is this? It is pretty damned stupid to spam lies of this sort all over the Internet: there's nothing easier than to check on your claims, and in this case the schools themselves say they are false. Any comment? I would imagine this will be yet another time you'll suddenly fall dead silent. In a any case, the proof is in, and you're a dead on liar.
rk: I suggest oh anonymous coward who will not back up his words with his True Identity, that your statements above, if you actually did look into the law school issue which seems to disturb the Hell out of the lot of you, only reveals your own lack of investigative skills.
rk: The records will show that I attended law school after my retirement from the Pacifica Police Department. The records will also show that my tuition was paid for by the State of California under the retirement/retraining program.
rk: Now about this issue of WHO IS DECEIVING WHOM?
The following libelous attacks arise from the keyboards of assorted anonymous government/media disinformation agents who, through disruption, intimidation, and character assassination control the flow of information on public Usenet Newsgroups/Forums
Damn! You've got balls Ray, I've got to hand it to you
Re: I've investigated your claims and they're a lie. (No law school ever admitted you)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 20:36:37 GMT
From: No damned thing you say is authentic (unknown)
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Aw Ray. And we had so much FAITH in what you say.
Re: I've investigated your claims and they're a lie. (No law school ever admitted you)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 20:42:34GMT
From: Bloody Uberkook! (unknown)
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I wonder what else an investigation would turn up
Re: I've investigated your claims and they're a lie. (No law school ever admitted you)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 20:47:19 GMT
From: Your name is pure fraud Raymond (unknown)
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What "censorship?" Your s**t is all over the place!
Re: The Emergence of the Christ State!! (Raymond Karczewski)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 20:45:17 GMT
From: You post your drivel here constantly! (unknown)
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Yes Ray. We all noticed your "balance."
Re: The Emergence of the Christ State!! (Raymond Karczewski)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 20:48:41 GMT
From: You're desperately ill. Get to a doctor (unknown)
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Where Ray? Easy to check.
Re: Disinformation Agent, Shoots Self in Foot!! (Raymond Karczewski)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 21:02:36 GMT
From: Why do the schools have no record then? (unknown)
Not one school acknowledged you were ever admitted. Not one in the whole state. If you are going to attack the truth, tell us weher you were admitted. There's nothing easier than to call the admissions office and check on your claims. You're a fraud. Maybe a quick check through the LSDAS would clarify things as well? When did you sit the LSAT? Or did you?
Time's up on your constant lies Ray. TJE TRUTH IS EXPOSED.
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Ray, you cannot fight facts. Your lies are now desperate
Re: Disinformation Agent, Shoots Self in Foot!! (Raymond Karczewski)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 21:04:31 GMT
From: No let up on revealing your fraud. None! (unknown)
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Why do you refuse to name a name? Just do it!
Re: Disinformation Agent, Shoots Self in Foot!! (Raymond Karczewski)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 21:06:51 GMT
From: What "law school?" Why refuse to name it (unknown)
It's easy Ray, that is if your claims are true. It cannot be more than a few words: give them to us now and let us check on your story. Or are you afraid of something being revealed? Don't be: your reputation is that of a violent psychotic, and disproving the results of this search can only help you.
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Really. What law school wouldn't be proud to train God
Re: Disinformation Agent, Shoots Self in Foot!! (Raymond Karczewski)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 21:15:49 GMT
From: Just cough up a name already liar (unknown)
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To answer your question
Re: Disinformation Agent, Shoots Self in Foot!! (Raymond Karczewski)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 21:20:05 GMT
From: Insults & rage don't make your tale true (unknown)
rk: Now about this issue of WHO IS DECEIVING WHOM?
You are obviously trying to lie to the entire world, hopiong no one will ever take the time to check on your claims, despite your constant and increasingly violent threats. Skirting the issue by repeating vague claims you went to "law school" only shows how mentally ill you are: if you were admitted somewhere, some school would have a record of the admission. Be straight forward for once in your life man. The only thing aamzing about you is that you somehow think you can lie all the way through this.
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Sudden dead silence from Ray Karczewski. No surprise there
Re: Town Square (New Admin)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 21:57:43 GMT
From: Look hard into that MIRROR OF TRVTH (unknown)
You immediately attack people who found out about your lies, and refuse to substantiate your absurd claims? What is the name of the "law school" you claim you attended? And why do they have no record of you at all? Truth is HELL, ISN'T IT?
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Funny.
Re: Where Ray? Easy to check. (Why do the schools have no record then?)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 21:36:49 GMT
From: Couldn't happen to a nicer sociopath (unknown)
You've been banking on the Internet to defraud people into thinking you're something you never could be, and in the end the Internet reveals the truth of your lies. Must be karma. And it couldn't happen to a nicer sociopath! Kudos!
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Ray, just a question....
Re: Disinformation Agent, Shoots Self in Foot!! (Raymond Karczewski)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 03:41:45 GMT
From: IceNine (icenine@locnet.digitalchainsaw.com)
AA in Liberal Arts, Skyline Coll., San Bruno, Calif., 1970.
You were accepted to law school with only an Associates Degree?
i9
rk: YEP!!
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Is this supposed to be some sort of refutation: "YEP"?
Re: Re: Disinformation Agent, Shoots Self in Foot!! (Raymond Karczewski)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 05:55:17 GMT
From: The records prove you lie. (unknown)
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Take your monumental pile of horseshit out of here
Re: Disinformation Agent, Shoots Self in Foot!! (Raymond Karczewski)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 05:51:40 GMT
From: If it's true, you can tell us the school (unknown)
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All the schools say you are lying. Name the school.
Re: Re: Disinformation Agent, Shoots Self in Foot!! (Raymond Karczewski)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 05:49:29 GMT
From: You're f**king pathetic in your fraud (unknown)
Thu, 24 May 2001 17:09:54 +0100
The Wolfman (Wolfy@blackwolfents.com) wrote:
w: Libel /'lar'bl/ noun:
w: a piece of writing which contains bad and false things about a person
w: In law further defined to be hurtful/harmful to a person in his professional capacity.
w: (Since Ray bandies around the term I might as well define it for him)
Raymond Karczewski wrote:
Exposure of a Media Hypocrite, (An FBI Scandal in the Making??)
w: This statement alone is libellous. It immediately brings in my career and questions my journalistic integrity which has been recognised to be hurtful/harmful to those in a journalistic career professionally. Furthermore it is prevented with nothing more than circumstantial evidence. I find it ironic that someone who claims people have libelled him should partake in such obvious libel.
w: >>>> Come now, Ray, people often hold opinions above and beyond their company - Nine isn't here as a representative of Verizon he's here as a representative of himself.
rk: >>> That remains to be seen.
w: >> I thought that was pretty evident.
w: >> I don't think Verizon would have an official opinion on you, Ray, there wouldn't seem to be much point.
rk: > That's what is known as a "Red Herring," isn't it -- a deliberate, irrelevant misdirection designed to take the reader onto a tangent away from the point of discussion?
w: Nope. You asserted that Nine was here as a representative of Verizon communications citing in particular his comments about you and your assertions about the assistant of Senator Ron Wyden. Here you admit that Verizon Communications does not have an official opinion of you and hence Nine cannot be a spokesperson for that opinion.
w: In short, Ray, your assertions were false.
w: It serves to prove that you set out to deliberately misinform.
w: >> You suggest that everyone here speaks as a representative of their employers then, Ray?
rk: > Another "Red Herring," eh? Why do you seek to put words in another's mouth then hold them responsible for your own utterances?
w: -- REPEATED LINE --
w: >>>> Come now, Ray, people often hold opinions above and beyond their company - Nine isn't here as a representative of Verizon he's here as a representative of himself.
rk: >>> That remains to be seen.
w: -- END REPEAT --
w: You sought to suggest IceNine spoke on behalf of Verizon in this group. His affiliation to the company is in no way related to his conduct here.
w: Another lie, Ray?
rk: >>> In one momentary misdirection, right off the bat you have transformed an *assistant* to Senator Ron Wyden into Wyden himself.
w: >> Less misdirection and more a misread. I misread the posts between yourself and Nine.
rk: > Try that one in court, under oath. See how far it'll get you.
w: Take me to court and I'll be happy too.
w: I believe in telling the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth - and whether or not that fits in with your paranoid delusions, Ray, that statement of fact up there *IS* the truth.
rk: > Ah, the old "I'm flawed, I'm flawed" dodge. It does have a certain appeal to the flawed who identify with flawed "birds of a feather," doesn't it?? Corrupted Christian Bible thumpers love that one, don't they?
w: I think calling me a bible-thumper is a leetle off the mark, Raymond. The Christians hate me with a passion because I spent a lot of time reading "the good book" and I'm always the guy at the back hassling the fundamentalists because, and I want you to understand this Ray, it's fun. Most of the "bible thumpers" never got past the first five books; hell, most of them aren't literate enough to get past the first five words.
w: Now, Ray, I challenge you to find the post where I said I was a member of the Christian church.
w: Can't?
w: Why am I not surprised?
w: Stop the misinformation, you hypocrite.
rk: > Putting your "flawed dodge" aside,
w: Not a dodge, the truth - something you evidently have difficulty dealing with.
rk: > I wonder if you see the inanity of positing an argument of adding "assistant to" one's testimony and the argument does not change.
w: It doesn't.
w: The argument didn't depend who Nine spoke to on the phone; the argument was that you don't know what was said in that private call. Nine could've been posting the comments of the Senator, an assistant of the Senator, the Senator's wife, the man who sells the Senator his sandwiches at lunchtime, whoever - you still don't know what was said in that call.
w: Your post was constructed to hide that fact in the same way as this post is constructed in a way as to avoid answering this argument.
w: You, sir, are a liar, an agent of disinformation, a hypocrite and a coward.
rk: > That, wolfman, is how silly you and your arguments are sounding right about now!!
w: Then, Raymond, why do you find yourself unable to answer them?
w: Keep dancing.
w: >> Only to those paranoid idiots who prejudge everyone based on their own deep delusions. Most people will understand that even I, oh most imperfect of beings, can misread a post.
rk: > No matter how much you use the "I'm flawed, I'm flawed" identification ploy coupled with the appeal to compassion from other flawed "birds of a feather" you will never turn this proverbial "sow's ear" into a "silk purse."
w: You can actually provide no evidence otherwise can you, Ray?
w: Is it not the case that this judgement is pure speculation based on your standard list of prejudices born out of your own deep paranoia and delusions?
w: This is enough case where I can say to you: Put some evidence on the table, Ray.
w: You can't because their is none. Their never has been. Your constant refusal to give any evidence for any of your allegations merely bears out the fact that your assertions are false.
w: Stop lying, Ray, you're fooling no-one.
w: >> That is exactly what you have done. You have accused Mr. Roley of twisting the words of an assistant of Senator Ron Wyden with no proof in any form. You worded your post in such a way as to hide this lack of evidence in the same way you are evading this very point now.
rk: > Now do you see how firmly in place you have inserted YOUR own statement "You have accused Mr. Roley of twisting the words of *an assistant* of Senator Ron Wyden with no proof in any form."
w: Yes, Ray, I have inserted that sentence. It was clearly a new sentence at the time. Did you expect me to make the same mistake by saying "Senator Ron Wyden" again? Ray, you'd already pointed out that mistake, if I were to make it again that would mean I was either perenially stupid (which I'm not) or a deliberate liar (which I am not).
w: You did accuse Mr. Roley of twisting the words of an assistant of Senator Ron Wyden, let me refresh your memory:
w: -- QUOTE RAYMOND --
w: "rk: You say, "He comes to a lot of the meetings the Senator has-" Is not such deliberate misrepresentation when paraphrasing the words of another designed to allow "Spin Doctors," Disinformation Agents, and deceptive hypocrites to confuse, confound, misinform and misdirect, blindly believing, gullible ignoramuses?"
w: -- END QUOTE --
w: In the light of these words, your words, do you claim that you did not accuse Mr. Roley of deliberately misrepresenting said assistant of Senator Ron Wyden?
w: If so then you are clearly a liar, if not then you clearly assert that you provided evidence of these charges. In that case, Ray, present that evidence again because it's quite clear that I missed it first time around. I do not believe you have evidence of these charges, Ray, I believe you are a liar and a fraud.
w: It is in your manner to continue to alledge charges against people without evidence to divert attention away from the fact you cannot provide evidence for your last allegation.
w: Prove me wrong, Ray, show a single shred of evidence for any of your charges.
rk: > in lieu of the orginal statements made by icenine? When memories have dimmed (due to the conditioned short attention span of most people who will read this), YOUR STATEMENT taken out of context, will be the one offered up as evidence to reinforce the next phony argument you can conjure up.
w: The statement I have made; that is that you have charged Mr. Roley of twisting an assistant of the Senator's words without evidence; is entirely factual until you find some calpable evidence to prove your charges against Mr. Roley. You have no evidence, Ray, this is what this attack on my journalistic integrity is about, it is about the fact that you do not like the facts, Ray.
w: It's time to put some evidence down on the table, Raymond Karczewski, because all you are doing at the moment is revealing yourself as a fraudalent and consistent liar.
w: The statement you are trying to debase in that sentence is evidently true, all the charges I have laid against you are evidently true and yet you have to present a single piece of evidence against those you detract.
w: Unlike myself who has merely pointed out your libel you have threatened charges of libel against Mr. Roley. When these were not forthcoming you stated you did not have the necessary information to press these charges, this information was given to you and still you did not press charges. You have alledged that I lie to my readers, you were given a database of my articles and asked to find a post where I can be seen to be telling my readers anything other than what I considered to be the truth, again you failed to provide evidence.
w: You charged the FBI of conspiring with the government and have failed to turn up any evidence of this. You have accused the government and media of conspiring with the government to control minds and you have yet to turn up evidence of this.
w: Assertions, Ray, mean nothing. You have no evidence, you have never had any evidence and you never will have any evidence because your charges are simply not true. You are a liar and a fraud; your assertions are based in deep paranoia and delusions of gradeur not to mention a massive persecution complex and prove, on even the most casual of examinations, to be flawed, without evidence and to have several cards missing at the bottom of the pyramid of madness you have built yourself.
w: Raymond Karczewski, can you prove me wrong by providing a single piece of evidence or are you as I am forced to conclude a paranoid, deluded idiot unable to cope with the rigours of reality?
w: I challenge you to provide a single scrap of evidence, Ray.
rk: > If that is not MIND CONTROL and DISINFORMATION, pray tell, what is??
w: There is no mind-control, Ray, and you have certainly yet to prove any, and every word that comes out of your mouth is a lie or a deliberate misdirection or piece of disinformation.
w: Ray, it's time for you to look in the mirror of truth, you will find out that the charges you have laid against others, lying, misinformation, misdirection, hypocriticism, are all YOUR flaws.
rk: > I suggest you take another look at the MIRROR you are standing before, and see if your nose has grown since your last statement!! (For other cultures, who do not get the essence of that statement SEE PINOCCHIO!!)
w: Raymond, the only thing I'm seeing when I stand before you as the "mirror of truth" is that the mirror was broken a long, long, time ago. I think it's time someone forced you to look in that mirror, and that's exactly what I'm doing.
w: I have, and am still doing, exposed you as a lying fraudalent deceiver with no evidence other than his own paranoia. Get used to it, Ray, you're going to see a lot more of yourself in that ol' mirror.
w: > > I repeat, Ray, you have no evidence of these charges: Do you intend to present some or continue to lie and misinform the readers of this group?
rk: > There are none so blind as those who WILL NOT SEE! I am providing evidence by exposing every word which emanates from the keyboard of a hypocrite.
w: Yes, Ray, you are exposing every word which emanates from the keyboard of a hypocrite, what you have yet to realise, Ray, is that you ARE that hypocrite.
rk: > You've heard the advice, "It's not nice to fool (with) Mother Nature." Well, it is even more disastrous to fool with the MIRROR OF TRUTH -- as you are presently learning with each post as you observe your credibility disintegrating before your very eyes.
w: With each post, Ray, my credibility grows and your own reputation already torn to shreds is dissolving. No person in this group takes you seriously anymore, Ray. Look around you.
w: I'm sorry, Ray, but you've become something to laugh at.
w: I would rather shoot myself than let my credibility sink that low and I am glad that thanks to my amazing patience in dealing with a deceptive misdirecting old fool can only help me become more credible.
rk: > Your credibility as a journalist is practically nil after this, your rapidly diminishing 2nd attempt at rationalizing your flawed state of consciousness. Hell, isn't it?
w: You have yet to make a dent in my credibility, it is hard for you to do so whilst people are still laughing at you. Ray, exonerate yourself with some real evidence and then your attacks on my credibility will be far more effective - it is hard to claim someone is not credible whilst your own credibility lies in tatters.
w: >> I don't need to use my imagination in your case, sir. Every word that spills from your diseased ulcerous mouth is a lie, a piece of misinformation or some laughable piece of religious mumbo-jumbo. You make wild accusations which only have basis in your own paranoia and you refuse to state that you have no evidence when it is obvious this is the case.
rk: > My, my, my, are these the words of a nonbiased professional journalist?
w: Yes.
rk: > wolfman, you may never understand the part you are playing, and the invaluable, service you are rendering in awakening the sleeping public from their hypnotic trance state at the hands of mind controlling "PROFESSIONAL JOURNALISTS."
w: I see you've dropped the "investigative" you used to use after it was pointed out to you by IceNine you had no evidence of this and that I never stated that I was an "investigative journalist". A wise choice since I'm not an investigative journalist, nor do I claim to be. I am what is termed in the popular a press a "news commentator". That means I interpret events and bring out subtle points that the big newspapers won't cover. Just another false assertion you made to add to the stack so far.
w: All I am proving, Ray, is that my profession has an incredible degree of patience when dealing with the deranged, the imbecilic and the ignorant.
w: I remember not long ago, Ray, you said I was in the process of tucking tail and running; it seems that I'm still here and I'm still managing to rip you to shreds. Don't worry, Ray, whilst you continue to lie and misinform I'll be hear to set the record straight.
w: Oh, Ray, you'll also notice that - unlike you asserted I would - I still seem to have the same nick.
w: Hell, isn't it?
w: >> I am employed by those who wish the facts to be told accurately, something no-one can ever trust you of.
w: [silence]
w: Speaks volumes, doesn't it?
w: >> If a mirror of truth is a fat old man with nothing of use to say, sir, then whilst the dance is boring it presents plenty of opportunity for laughter at his expense.
rk: > Is this where I get to say "I REST MY CASE?"
w: Nope, this is the part where I say:
w: You really didn't manage to answer the point did you, let me repeat it for you:
w: You cannot assert Mr. Roley misrepresented the assistant of Senator Ron Wyden because you don't know what was said on the phone that day. You have no evidence to support this allegation in the same way that you have no evidence to support the constant attacks on my journalistic integrity, your attack on the FBI or your attack on the government and media. The principle reason for attacking myself and Mr. Roley in this libellous manner is because you find yourself unable to answer our challenge to provide evidence.
w: The challenge is as it has always been, Ray, to put some evidence down on the table.
w: Keep dancing around the challenge, Ray, because we both know you can't answer it.
-- Wolfy (Christopher Flather)
CEO & Electronic Administrator
Black Wolf Entertainment™
http://www.blackwolfents.com
Fri, 25 May 2001 19:01:46 +0100
The Wolfman (Wolfy@blackwolfents.com) wrote:
Raymond Karczewski wrote:
rk: >> Many people are observing the Censorship Campaign now underway on the Internet in an attempt to prevent my writings from reaching the "Spirituality Seeking" computer-using public.
w: > Ray ...
w: >If your posts are being censored (again) then why are they still here spreading your usual lies?
rk: Here is an example of the misdirections posed by disinformation agents on the Internet. kristine campbell wrote in "Re: Internet Censorship NOW Firmly in Place: You May NOW Kiss Your Country Goodbye!! on Fri, 25 May 2001 07:30:06 +0000
k: > bRat disappears for weeks at a time...
k: >bRate reappears ranting and raving....
rk: The "weeks at a time" refers to the inclusive period of Feb 23, 2001 through May 12th, 2001, the period wherein my posts were being blocked from reaching USENET newsgroups even though I was posting daily. The periods of censorship have occurred repeatedly, some shorter than others, throughout the years. THIS IS THE CENSORSHIP I refer to. See: http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialchst.htm
rk: When I solved the problem of such interference, blockage and censorship and began to circumvent the technical influence these computer experts appear to have over the computer network, I resubmitted the blocked posts and then explained to the newsgroup readers what had just happened.
rk: You seek to create an argument that my posts are not being censored because you can read them NOW. That is a misdirection by a time-bound ignoramus who seeks to manipulate public focus away from the censored period of Feb 23 to May 12th, by concentrating attention upon the time period after the censorship had come to its end.
rk: By the way, some who attempted to access my website at http://arkenterprises.com on May 15th 2001 may recall meeting up with the error message "[Tue May 15 05:18:32 2001] [error] (28)No space left on device: could not open transfer."
rk: My website had been shut down. Why? Because a MAIL BOMB campaign had consumed 24 megabytes of my domain space. Here it is a week later, and the mailbomb campaign is still going on daily, although contact regarding the matter has been made with my ISP and the offending news lists which clutter up my mail box.
rk: >> Read any of my posts at random.
w: > If you insist.
rk: >> There one sees the relentless assaults upon the messenger, never the message
w: > "Dualism: The Triumph of Logic over Desire."
w: > A post which you conceded proved dualism of thought was an inevitable consequence of the process of human reason; I merely went on to point out this means "government mind-control" isn't necessary for dualism - an attack at the very heart of your message.
rk: The statement "dualism of thought was an inevitable consequence of the process of human reason" speaks for itself. One either sees the TRUTH of that or remains blind to it.
rk: Your attempt at pointing out [this means "government mind-control" isn't necessary for dualism - an attack at the very heart of your message] is an attempt of the "spiritually blind," Intellectually-guided ignoramus to lead the equally spiritually sightless into the ditch of ignorance THROUGH INTERPRETATION. The TRUTH speaks for itself, doesn't it? As you can see, I do not INTERPRET. You, wolfman, have a compulsive NEED to interpret. Isn't that the curse of all COMMENTATORS?
rk: Truth, the "essence" of WHAT IS, SPEAKS FOR ITSELF! It is SELF-REVEALING. It cannot be interpreted -- as TRUTH is beyond the realm of conceptualization. Being of the Spiritual Realm, the subtle realms of Consciousness, well beyond the superficial Satanically-driven Intellectual realm based in concepts. It is a realm, by the way, that disinformation agents such as yourself, wolfman, are unable to transcend. It can ONLY BE SEEN. It, TRUTH, can never be arrived at through the indirect methodology of intellectual interpretation.
w: > Your response:
w: > "Waah!!!! The government/media sponsored/supported disinformation agent bit me!!! I'm gonna tell my momma!"
rk: This is merely an example of one of your many misdirecting interpretations. Blind to the TRUTH yourself, you compensate for your spiritual ignorance by manipulating the intellectual CONCEPT of TRUTH.
rk: The fragmented word, the fragmented concept of TRUTH is never the whole of TRUTH it seeks to represent.
rk: This is the nature of IGNORANCE, of LIMITATION. of the PART which BELIEVES itself to be the WHOLE: i.e., a "god" in its own right." It is the SATANICALLY ruled HELL of a conditioned Intellect. This is what rules the world of Civilized Man, populated by all who worship, serve, and sell their souls to the false "god" of Intellectualism.
w: > You systematically accuse anyone who takes an opposing stance to you of being in league with the government and the forces of dualism (which in a specific post to me you also call "evil").
rk: I DO NOT ACCUSE ANYONE! I ACCURATELY REPORT THE EVERUNFOLDING "WHAT IS!"
rk: As to your comment that I "...accuse anyone who takes an opposing stance to you of being in league with the government and the forces of dualism (which in a specific post to me you also call "evil") -- show me the direct evidence of that statement *purportedly* made by me in my own words, not with YOUR MANUFACTURED INTERPRETATION of it.
rk: You seek to promote a deception, for I do not "SYSTEMATICALLY" do anything. I merely convey the WHAT IS as it is being directly perceived. There is no system employed in seeing. That is the simplicity of a CHRIST, a child of the INFINITE, a Son of NO-THING, a being who resonates with the unmistakable essence of holistic TRUTH -- that undefinable essence which most corrupted, fallen, intellectually driven beings would label GOD.
w: > More lies, Ray?
rk: Lies can only be found within the SATANICALLY (Opposer) ruled, dualistic realm of Intellectualism, a realm which it can CLEARLY BE SEEN, that you, wolfman, are unable to transcend.
w: > When will they all end?
rk: All lies end when you, wolfman, are personally able to TRANSCEND the prison cell of your own SATANICALLY ruled Intellect.
rk: >> disinformation agents who are busily seeding the conditioned, computer-using public with suggestions that the messenger is mentally unstable, a danger to society, and should be put away in a jail or mental facility to protect society.
w: > I never said any such thing.
rk: It is very clear, you did not make the above statement. I made that TRUE OBSERVATION OF WHAT IS! Apparently that statement made by the MIRROR of TRUTH touched a nerve in a hypocrite who stood before it.
w: > I said you were a liar, a fraud and a hypocrite.
rk: SEE MIRROR of TRUTH above, and you will understand what it is that you are TRUELY SEEING as your own psychological projections are revealed to you through your relationships with others.
w: > Pick a reply to any of your replies to my post at random; there you will see a pretentious hypocritical liar thrashing about in a world entirely of his own creation.
rk: That is an intellectual interpretation, not self-evident TRUTH, is it not? Why not PRESENT any of my replies to your post at random and let them speak for themselves without your "knee jerk" interpretation. Such an act would cause the psychologically conditioned ego to be STRUCK DUMB. Then where would the JOURNALISTIC COMMENTATOR (mind controller) be?
w: > I don't think you need to be locked up, Ray, I think you need to stop lying to yourself and everyone you talk to - this is the only way you can regain your credibility.
rk: Keep talking and keep looking at the MIRROR you are gazing into. You may just GET IT!!!
rk: >> What are these same cowardly anonymous posters saving society from?
w: > Considering one of these "anonymous cowards" have given you their name and address and another (me) signs my name to each post and has his address publically available in the InterNIC "whois" database it comes to light that they aren't really any more anonymous than you.
rk: Surely you are aware of the Intelligence community's use of *PLAUSIBLE DENIAL.* How selective of you to ignore the masses of posts authored by those who use a multitude of "internet handles" (sock puppets) and ultimately, last, but certainly not least, the generic nic "UNKNOWN." A whole lot of EVIL operates on the Internet under those conditions, eh?
w: > Keep spinning those lies, Ray.
rk: There is no spin to what I have just said. One only has to look to simply *see* the TRUTH for themselves.
w: > As for who we're saving society from - who says we're saving society?
rk: Obviously most ignoramuses are caught in the present momentum of destroying society. That also is self-evident, isn't it?
w:> We're just having fun poking the village idiot, Ray, a time-honored (if exceedingly cruel) tradition.
rk: Ah! the *Village Idiot* ploy. You couldn't keep yourself from blurting out this BASSACKWARD, timeless Intelligence Community technique of discrediting a SOVEREIGN HUMAN BEING who stands out amongst a sea of conditioned conformists and embarrasses the HELL out of them by the contrast observed in the spiritual process of MIRRORING.
w: > Since intelligence is humanities prime survival trait it makes sense that those unable to display it should be weeded out as early as possible. Welcome to Darwinism, Ray.
rk: Darwinism, eh? What a quaint Intellectual concept?!! One merely has to ask themselves how many CHRISTS there have been in human history. How many IGNORAMUSES? Who is to be weeded out in a BASSACKWARD, corrupt society, eh? The simple fact remains that IGNORAMUSES kill, indiscriminately, CHRISTS and IGNORAMUSES alike. So much for your weeding out process, eh?
rk: >> Could it be Fundamental Change in the Human Condition?
w: > Only if the human condition is Fundamentally Changed everyday by "new-age prophets" shouting at the ends of subway platforms.
rk: Another one of your personally biased, misdirecting Interpretations, eh? And this you term the offerings of a credible journalist? Only in a BASSACKWARD world. Only in a BASSACKWARD world.
Perhaps now you understand the despair which permeates the lives of BLIND IGNORAMUSES who share their ditch with their equally BLIND LEADERSHIP.
rk: >> What danger do my writings on the Internet over the past six years pose to our society that should cause such intense concern to those who presently rule us and are attempting to consolidate their power by forcing a "NEW WORLD ORDER" upon us?
w: > Ray, just a tiny reality check for you here.
w: > This is UseNet. There are hundreds and thousands of people out here in the wild wild world of the web. Most of us don't have any government affiliations - and truth be told the most power any of us have in our jobs is regulating our daily allowance of paper clips. Such is beaurocracy.
rk: So you've just been introduced to your own impotence, eh? Why not do something about it rather than rationalize it?
w: > I myself don't work for the government and, to be frank, am envious of those who get to make decisions about their paperclips (especially if they're the colored ones, they rock).
rk; Such statement of envy reveals the energy of one who shouts of his own impotency as a conformist human being, Your envy bespeaks your lower occupancy of the compensatory, powerless realms of Hell.
w: > So on what basis do you claim that I (who you have previously cited as a detractor of yourself) rule over anyone in this group - or for that matter even have the power to even suggest a "NEW WORLD ORDER".
rk: Clearly, by your own words, you can't. But that doesn't stop you from engaging in a power struggle with one who understands the wisdom of "resist not evil" and therefore is beyond the petty struggles of dualism, does it?
w: > I think it's obvious, Ray, from your "vibratory essence" in this post that you're secretly a closet anarchist trying to figure out a way to become charismatic enough to lead some kind of revolution. Your language drips with it - as do your actions.
rk: There's nothing CLOSET about me. What else can one who is "in this world but not of it" be called but a DIVINE ANARCHIST?!!
w: > Tim McVeigh's murder of innocents was right, you don't need to have a license to drive, income tax is an illegal law and we must destroy the "NEW WORLD ORDER".
rk: The TRUE facts are NOT YET in on Tim McVeigh. One has the Inalienable Right to LIBERTY which includes private travel in the usual conveyance of the day (today, it's the private automobile) upon the roadways of this country as guaranteed by this Country's DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE AND U.S. CONSTITUTION.
w: > You crave a fight, Raymond,
rk: I fight with NO ONE. I Mirror EVERYONE! You do perceive that not-so-subtle distinction, don't you?
w: > that or simply some kind of twisted recognition, but can't find enough people to take you seriously to give you either.
rk: Not being taken seriously by masses of thought-bound, BASSACKWARD oriented, conditioned, conforming IGNORAMUSES, has always been the plight of a nonconforming CHRIST.
w: > You crave a world in which you rule as messiah but realise this can never come to be so merely withdraw into your own universe where it can become so.
rk: I have no such craving to rule anyone or anything. What do the "petty perks of power" (PPP's) in a world of IGNORAMUSES have for one who is "In this world, but not of it?"
w: > I almost feel sorry for you, perhaps I would if it was not for your overwhelming arrogance and terrible lack of humanity in pursuing your own sordid goals.
rk: I have no goals. I merely Speak the nondualistic TRUTH and let the "devil take the dualistic HINDMOST."
rk: > > I have exposed mind control/disinformation dissemination experiments being conducted upon unwary users of the Internet.
w: >Where?
rk: See what I mean about the "Spiritually Blind"? The evidence of it is all around you, yet you cannot SEE IT!! That has always been the tipoff of one who is a blind IGNORAMUS ruled by his own conditioned Intellect. The TRUTH is always hidden to them, yet it is "hidden in Plain Sight."
w: > Once again it comes down to asking you to put evidence on the table and once again I expect you to fail to do so.
rk: In your present conditioned, dualistic state of Intellect, you wouldn't recognize the nondualitic energy of TRUTH if it BIT YOU (and it DOES bite, as all bitten Internet ignoramuses will readily attest to). Thus all you are left with is petty argumentation through the manipulation of dualistic concepts.
w: > This is getting repetitive and circular,
rk: In that brief phrase have you not defined the impotence of a linear, time-bound, concept ruled, dead intellect bemoaning its own limitation?
w: > Ray, you make the same tired allegations but always fall short of providing any evidence.
rk: I will let you play with words. I can only mirror the impotence of such manipulations by exposing the "empty rhetoric" of the spiritually bereft.
rk: >> I have already survived 6 years of such assault upon my character and reputation by these mind controlling Disinformation Agents. I remain as strong and balanced this day as on the first day that I began to share my Truth with the Internet-using public.
w: > I think the statement "I remain as strong and balanced this day as on the first day that I began ..." is possibly one of the few verifiably correct things you have said - if only because your accusations and your lack of ability to prove them have not changed for six years.
rk: How does one MAKE the "Spiritually Bind" to see when they are unaware that they stand with their eyelids tightly shut -- reinforced by their own hands which cover their own eyes as they IGNORANTLY cry, "I CAN'T SEE, I CAN'T SEE"? Is it an act of arrogance or even one of mean spiritedness for the Spiritually Sighted to simply say to an intellectually-bound ignoramus "take down your hands -- open your eyes," NOW---What do you SEE? Isn't the first thing seen is that you have stopped your total dependence upon your blind intellect as a compensatory guidance system in navigating through life?
rk: >> I have exposed the TRUTH about mind control practices used by the few who have ruled the many since the earliest of Civilizations.
w: > You have not proven anything,
rk: Truth cannot be "proved." It can only be SEEN. The concept of Truth, which is not TRUTH, can be proved, but to what end?
rk: To find the answer to that question one only need look at the shape that our corrupt JUDICIAL SYSTEM is in -- a system which rides on, and depends upon the illusion of conceptual truth for its base of power. Ask yourself, of what use is such proof when its result culminates in an increasing momentum of Injustice and Tyranny? One must BE BASSACKWARD to begin with to try to make a case for such level of "PROOF."
w: > Ray, you've merely changed the subject
rk: I don't change the subject. I just won't engage in your superficial word games. Let's face it, wolfman, WHERE I AM, YOU CANNOT GO!
w: > when asked for evidence - or used an accusation of variably slander, libel or disinformation agent to divert the issue. Assertion is not proof, Ray, proof requires evidence or at least a logical argument - you have yet to produce either.
rk: Would you be able to SEE the simple Truth when it is presented to you, or do you demand to be guided ONLY by BLIND CONCEPTS? A Spiritually Sighted person will answer one way. An mind controlled ignoramus, another way.
rk: wolfman, are you "beginning to see the light?"
rk: wolfman, You have already displayed many times in recent threads ["DUALISM, The Triumph of Logic over Desire," "Censorship on UseNet: A Discussion", and "An FBI Scandal in the Making?? (Exposure of a Media Hypocrite)" which may be viewed on http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialchst.htm] your habitual use of flawed logic in manufacturing deceptions by arriving at false conclusions through beginning with a false premise. Such are the games that are played by mind controllers who "think" they are too slick to be discovered.
rk: That, wolfman, is why I, understanding the lesson of "Resist not Evil," do not engage you or other word twisting hypocrites in serious dialogue. I merely mirror your/their chicanery.
rk: For the past six years I have held out an open challenge to anyone to find a single "contradiction in essence" in anything I have expressed on these Internet newsgroups/forums and/or in my books and tapes.
rk: That challenge is STILL OPEN.
rk: However any challenger who seeks to produce such evidence, must do so with MY ORIGINAL WORDS, not with their own manufactured interpretations of my words. Many forgeries bearing the name Raymond Karczewski abound on the Internet. Some of these posts have even been generated by Artificial Intelligence (AI) Software. My challenge to you, wolfman, is for you to find a single CONTRADICTION IN ESSENCE expressed by me within the last six years on the Internet which hasn't, in fact, been a carefully contrived deception manufactured by word twisting, mind controlling, Red Herring tangent producing, disinformation bent IGNORAMUSES. BETCHA CAN'T DO IT!!!
w: > Both myself (Christopher Flather) and IceNine (Kris Roley) have given you the chance to air your evidence to a broader audience free of censorship on both of, or either of, the Left Of Center Internetwork and Black Wolf Entertainment - you did not take this chance because you have no evidence.
rk: What nonsense! What charade you propose! Meditate upon the adage "Resist not Evil" and you have your own answer as to the outcome of such an inane proposal.
rk: Aren't you fellas are getting enough of a ride on my coattails as it is on these newsgroup/forums? Is the pain of living with yourselves, corrupted as you are. too much to bear? So much so that in your diminished, dualism-based intellectual capacity you must vampiricly feast upon the holistic energy of a simple man of TRUTH -- A CHRIST?
w: > Raymond Karczewski, will you now provide this evidence or will you merely once again divert the issue by making an allegation of libel, slander, or disinformation agent?
rk: As said earlier in this post, the EVIDENCE is HERE. It is all around you. It is in our past communications. It is in this communcation. Yet you CANNOT SEE IT -- you are BLIND to it. HELL, isn' it?
w: > Your options now, Ray, are to break your stonewall of silence or to cry wolf - and I don't think the villagers will come running this time.
rk: Stone Wall of Silence, eh? It seems that you aren't even capable of functioning without mimicking my words, eh? What is humorous about this statement is that based on the amount of posting that I do, one would be hard put to even try to make the case that I am SILENT!
rk: The simple fact is I don't answer obvious "trap-setting questions." I'll leave that to the dumbed-down masses who in their conditioned state of unawareness are thoroughly exploitable by conniving word mongers because they don't even see the trap-setting questions coming. Even when it is ultimately shown to them after the fact, their well entrenched state of psychological denial causes them to respond with predictable face-saving rationalizations.
rk: >> Then observe the effects of such simple Truth upon the Status Quo and view the unrelenting and vicious attacks upon its messenger by reading the messages marked with "***" on my bulletin board at http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialchst.htm
w: > Yes! Do so!
w; > I invite you in particular to view: http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialch20.htm#Triumph
w: > For a standard display of Raymond Karczewski's ability to evade answering the points; failing to do so he instead diverts attention from the points by claiming he has been committing an "exorcism".
w: > I also invite you to consider Raymond's libelous and hypocritical remarks about myself and Mr. Roley: http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialch21.htm#Exposure
w: > And my reply to him about said remarks: http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialch22.htm#Libelous
rk: While you're inviting others to consider the above posts, may I advise the readers to pay close attention to the "magickal manipulations" which arise from the "manufactured premises" upon which wolfman's faulty logic depends. See if you can get him to come up with any of my "direct quoted words," not his (dare I say it) biased interpretations of my words. I perceive that my challenge to all to find a "contradiction in essence" will not be met.
w: >And of course his not to be missed approval of Tim McVeigh's actions:
rk: I made NO SUCH APPROVAL of McVeigh. Perhaps we can start with that deception, eh, wolfman? Show me IN MY EXACT WORDS where I have approved of McVeighs actions, not YOUR CLEARLY BIASED INTERPRETATION of my WORDS!!
w: > http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialch20.htm#McVeigh
w: > It comes to something when your own board exposures you as a libelous hypocrite who engages in misdirection to avoid presenting any evidence and supports the cold-blooded slaughter of citizens of his own country.
rk: My board is there for all to SEE and READ. Have at it!! Let all have the opportunity to SEE whether my words match your interpretation of my words.
w: > No document I could possibly pen could be more damning than Mr. Karczewski's own hand-picked archive of the lies he has been proud to spread.
rk: As I have said, HAVE AT IT!!
rk: >> IT IS NOT TIME for a "New World Order." IT IS TIME for a *NEW > WORLD CONSCIOUSNESS!*
w: > No, Ray, it is time for you to get a conscience.
w: > Though I can see how you got the words confused.
rk: See what I mean about MY WORDS and your INTERPRETATION of my WORDS?!!
-- Wolfy (Christopher Flather)
CEO & Electronic Administrator
Black Wolf Entertainment™
http://www.blackwolfents.com
The following libelous attacks arise from the keyboards of assorted anonymous government/media disinformation agents who, through disruption, intimidation, and character assassination control the flow of information on public Usenet Newsgroups/Forums
More results of the investigation. Your claims are lies
Re: The Dissolution of the Christ Myth (Raymond Karczewski)
Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 11:42:11 GMT
From: All of them. You won't rewrite history! (unknown)
Ray, beyond your claims of having attended law school being disproved by the schools themselves, your claims of being listed in Who's Who in America 1997 and 1998 and Who's Who in the World 1999 are all lies as well. So you're lying across the board, hoping people won't run your stories through a search? Every lie you tell will be revealed, and the more you attack people here, the more results of the investigation will be disclosed. Keep your hate and violence to yourself Ray. You will not rewrite history!
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I see Who's Who made amazon.com remove the lies
Re: More results of the investigation. Your claims are lies (All of them. You won't rewrite history!)
Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 11:49:55 GMT
From: Your vice & corruption are revealed (unknown)
You don't have the intelligence to pull off this kind of fraud. What do you hope to accomplish by persisting in your mythomania? It really won't work: the TRVTH will reveal your vice and corruption for what they are, EVERY STEP OF THE WAY.
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Might want to watch out Ray: this is lawsuit material!
Re: I see Who's Who made amazon.com remove the lies (Your vice & corruption are revealed)
Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 12:15:03 GMT
From: So submit your name & buy a copy (unknown)
Fraud like this is actionable in a court of law if the Who's Whos People get pissed off enough about having a flaming kook like you drag their reputation through cyber-filth. But not to worry! They have a web site where you can submit your name, and if you buy a copy of the book they will include you. It's very easy to be included in these books if you buy copies: how do you think they make their money? Amazing what a minimum opf investigation will turn up, huh Ray? Your lies are all catching up with you.
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Your lies are terribly grandiose. Are you royalty too?
Re: More results of the investigation. Your claims are lies (All of them. You won't rewrite history!)
Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 12:09:15 GMT
From: O I forgot. You're King of Kings. Sheesh (unknown)
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Damn! Don't you realize spamming lies is risky?
Re: More results of the investigation. Your claims are lies (All of them. You won't rewrite history!)
Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 12:27:22 GMT
From: Truth is no friend to you Ray (unknown)
Someone is going out of his way to check your stories Ray, and the results are not flattering to your already stinking reputation for fraud and meglomania. Can't imagine it's going to get any easier for you to lie here Ray. So what's next: Emperor of the New World Order?
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The dangers of solipsism
Re: More results of the investigation. Your claims are lies (All of them. You won't rewrite history!)
Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 12:40:07 GMT
From: Learn to be a better human being (unknown)
I realize you need to believe the lies you tell about yourself, but they are not real, they are unhealthy, and they are leading you to nothing but grief. You're much better off accepting your flawed, human state and learning to be a better person as opposed to insisting on fraudulent stories of non-existent grandeur and godhood. Be well Ray, and find something good to affirm during what remains of your very human life. Your myths are getting you nothing but increasing risk of legal problems and public ridicule.
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So what about you has anything to do with truth?
Re: The Dissolution of the Christ Myth (Raymond Karczewski)
Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 11:48:00 GMT
From: Choke hard before that Mirror of TRVTH (unknown)
Everything you post here turns out to be a lie, and you bank on people not checking on your stories to perpetuate the fraud. You will not prevail. If you continue your constant, vicious attacks, everything about you will be revealed, from the psychosis in California and Nevada, to the gambling addiction, to the lies about your education and "international' celebrity, to the despicable abuse of your own family. Every lie you post will be countered by TRVTH Ray: hell, isn't it?
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Hey!A word of truth from Ray:your Christ MYTH is undone!
Re: The Dissolution of the Christ Myth (Raymond Karczewski)
Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 11:51:25 GMT
From: Christ didn't lie his face off (unknown)
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It was a stupid ass story to begin with
Re: Hey!A word of truth from Ray:your Christ MYTH is undone! (Christ didn't lie his face off )
Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 12:10:17 GMT
From: Christs never threaten anyone Ray (unknown)
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Your TRUTH is nothing but personal mythology
Re: The Dissolution of the Christ Myth (Raymond Karczewski)
Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 11:54:09 GMT
From: Truth coming back to bite you on the ass (unknown)
rk: It, TRUTH, can never be arrived at through the indirect methodology of intellectual interpretation.
Apparently your "TRUTH" has nothing to do with reality. Keep your lies to yourself you fraud.
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Ray's City Hall Shows: "Christ" throwing a tantrum
Re: The Dissolution of the Christ Myth (Raymond Karczewski)
Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 12:05:47 GMT
From: SPV (unknown)
****SPV......You missed the most important part. They are surpressing Ray because he is Christ. He has attained Christ Consciousness and this is proven by their interference by stopping his posts. This interference is his proof that he is Enlightened and a Buddha or a Christ.
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You write like a grade-school kid
Re: The Dissolution of the Christ Myth (Raymond Karczewski)
Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 12:52:29 GMT
From: Silly, infantile word games (unknown)
rk: That is the simplicity of a CHRIST, a child of the INFINITE, a Son of NO-THING, a being who resonates with the unmistakable essence of holistic TRUTH -- that undefinable essence which most corrupted, fallen, intellectually driven beings would label GOD.
This "NO-THING" garbage is something only a child with the crudest thining and writing skills would write. You should have developed better skills than this over the decades Ray: grow beyond the silly and infantile.
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The first clue to Ray's delusional state...
Re: Ray doesnt accuse anyone? Sure. (IceNine)
Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 20:06:29 GMT
From: (unknown)>
...is his idiotic ASSumption that all these people (AKA ed wilkinson, AKA Ray Kargoofy, et al) are the same person.
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Ray, you may suffer from clinical depression
Re: More results of the investigation. Your claims are lies (All of them. You won't rewrite history!)
Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 14:28:15 GMT
From: Way to be happier and healthier (unknown)
Delusions of grandeur and the inability to stop lying are real signs of treatable mental illness. You don't have to live this way, running from the truth which you apparently greatly fear. If you work on not attacking people and threatening them, you'll be happier and healthier.
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Well, here's an interesting bit...
Re: More results of the investigation. Your claims are lies (All of them. You won't rewrite history!)
Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 16:15:51 GMT
From: IceNine (icenine@locnet.digitalchainsaw.com)
Recived this from a lawyer friend of mine...
> I saw your message at BWE, so I know where you are going with this. In fact, quite a few "mature" students find their way to law school. If they don't have an undergraduate degree, they can compensate by demonstrating equivalent experience, etc. For instance, I knew a parole officer, a cop and a real estate broker who all gained acceptance into law school... none of whom had a university degree... and the broker didn't even go on to college (which here in Quebec, is really just two extra glorified years of high school). One of my best friends is an ADA in Brooklyn, so I know that the situation is similar in the States... well at least in NY. Mind you, general admission requirements indicate that you need a Bachelor's degree. The above cases are exceptions... but they are frequent enough. Law school isn't like medical school. Any idiot can basically place himself somewhere and pass the exams. I'm living proof of that! Did Ray state that he is a member of any bar or did he merely mention that he has a degree? If he claims to be a member of any state bar, you should contact them and ask whether Ray is an attorney. By law, they have to tell you whether he is certified or not. They will also be able to tell you whether he was disbarred if indeed he is no longer certified. You should be able to get other info as well, such as his business address (it can't be a P.O.) as well as the year he was admitted to the bar. Mind you, this all presumes that he went to law school and passed his bar exams...
So, it's entirely possible.
i9
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Re: The Dissolution of the Christ Myth (Raymond Karczewski)
Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 15:36:13 GMT
From: IceNine (icenine@locnet.digitalchainsaw.com)
"Raymond Karczewski" (arkent@arkenterprises.com) wrote in message news:3b0f43e6.9283530@post.newsfeeds.com...
> > rk: I DO NOT ACCUSE ANYONE! I ACCURATELY REPORT THE EVERUNFOLDING "WHAT IS!"
BS!
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#1 THE NEW AMERICAN WAY:
Unable to Attack the Message/Messenger: Attack a Man's Wife!!
Pay attention to what the words of "Go figure!" aka (also known as) ed wilkinson, former Grants Pass Businessman, former Arms Dealer, Member of the Republican Party Central Committee, former owner of Digital Arts, second generation "ROYBOT," member of the AFAB BULLIES/SKEPTICULTISTS/ROYBOTS, US Intelligence connected, aka Mr. Ed, aka Sir Ed, aka Oregon Ed, aka Ray Kargoofy, aka (LIghtColonel Meepzorp-Bazza, SAIC), aka Raymond Karscrewloose, aka Agent Sir Ed and last, but not least "UNKNOWN" say about the source of his information for such libelous comments regarding another man's wife.
***This isn't an accusation? Well, let's see. First, you're calling him a member of the Republican Party Central Committee. He was a member of some GOP organization in Oregon but isn't anymore, IIRC... US Intelligence connected? Speculation. Prove it. By the way, if it says UNKNOWN--how do you know it's Ed? I ask merely for informational Purposes....I see over 63,000 posts attributred to UNKNOWN on Google. They aren't all Ed.
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#1 THE NEW AMERICAN WAY: Unable to Attack the Message/Messenger: Attack a Man's Wife!! Pay attention to what the words of "Go figure!" aka (also known as) ed wilkinson, former Grants Pass Businessman, former Arms Dealer, Member of the Republican Party Central Committee, former owner of Digital Arts, second generation "ROYBOT," member of the AFAB BULLIES/SKEPTICULTISTS/ROYBOTS, US Intelligence connected, aka Mr. Ed, aka Sir Ed, aka Oregon Ed, aka Ray Kargoofy, aka (LIghtColonel Meepzorp-Bazza, SAIC), aka Raymond Karscrewloose, aka Agent Sir Ed and last, but not least "UNKNOWN" say about the source of his information for such libelous comments regarding another man's wife. _______________________________________________________________________ #2 From: Just Say No to Mental Illness Ray (unknown)
> ***Now here, you've equated Tim Hill to UNKNOWN. Strange...
(Tim)> Hill is a disinformation agent, otherwise known as a propagandist, a spin doctor, or as generally known in political circles as a dirty tricks operative. His function is to create dissention and division and to keep the schisms between peoples going. He is a political and media tool. He and his cohorts known as the AFAB bullies, named for their base of operation at the alt.fan.art-bell newsgroup concentrate their disinformation tactics on newsgroups which are tied to radio talk shows, paranormal, and militia groups. He and his fellow hatemongers cast the energy of dissention whereever and whenever they can while hiding behind a host of aliases to create the illusion of numbers supporting their momentum. Their methods are ridicule, libel, forging posts, and cheap shot ambush tactics designed toward character assasination.
***This ISN'T an accusastion? Until you have proof, that's exactly what it is. You have accused Tim Hill in this post of being a "disinformation agent, otherwise known as a propagandist, a spin doctor, or as generally known in political circles as a dirty tricks operative."
This is an "IF", Ray. When are you going to turn the "IF" into a "FACT"? _______________________________________________________________________ #3 Re: Ray Is Caught Lying Again (was: Re: 'Fess Up, Kazoo...You'll Feel Better For It!
Once criminal action is brought to bear against those who would (like am, icenine, and a host of other cowardly disinformation agents who call themselves AFAB Bullies/Skepticultists) over a four-year period of newsgroup activity, obsessively "take the trouble and the risk to cover this story," what has appeared to them to be empty threats shall expose their illusion-bound existence like nothing else can.
***Here you accuse AM and myself of being disinformation agents.
You accuse no one, hmm?
Tell you what, idiot. Try proving any of this. One single shred of evidence that I am a government/media sponsored disinformation agent. Until you do, all you HAVE are accusations, and that isn't going to go far at all.
Law school, my ass.
i9
26 May 2001 22:44:41 -0700
Kirk-rj@bol.com.br (Arya) wrote:
Raymond Karczewski (arkent@arkenterprises.com) wrote:
a: Namaste!
a: Patanjali, on the 'Yoga Sutras' present us, just on its beginning, with an affirmative that defines the aim of Raja Yoga! He says: "The aim of Yoga is the cessation of mind!" So, we present this matter as an important one to talk about.
a: Descartes have said: "I think, so, I am!"
rk: The energy resonating in such statement reveals its source to be that level of consciousness which emanates from a philosopher, a man of Intellect, not Spirit. In other words, it emanates from an unhealthy, societally conditioned ego supported and promoted through patronage of worldly men who rule other men, and has subsequently gained for its host, worldly fame and recognition by "singing to the choir" of other worldly conditioned ignoramuses.
a: And what about the state of cessation of mind, that means much more than the 'simple' cessation of thinking?
rk: As observed in the vastly contrasting vibratory levels of "Infinite" and "Finite," eh?
a: What would succeed to that one that reached the cessation of mind?
rk: INFINITE INTELLIGENCE -- THE CHRIST STATE OF CONSCIOUSNESS!
a: Which could be the powers associated to such a realization?
rk: Listen to my sound file "The Nobody and the Somebody -- The Christ and the Christian" at http://www.arkenterprises.com/nobody.html Therein lies the answer to your question.
a: About the necessary to reach such aim, the Yoga is all we could need. Someone could conclude: "If I stop of thinking, I'm not any more,
rk: Yes and NO. The petty worldly conditioned ego indeed ceases to be. Did not one who many call CHRIST, say that "one must die, to be reborn of the Spirit." He was not referring to physical death, as religious mind controlling leaders have, throughout the ages, led millions to believe, but to the ending of the endless chatter of the Intellect which binds its host to its unrelenting worldly psychological conditioning.
rk: Such psychological death is the moment of Spiritual Rebirth, the Resurrection of the Spirit. It takes one to the Realm of the Infinite, of No-thing. It leads a FALLEN human being [one who has FALLEN to the seductions of the Satanically (Opposer) ruled Intellect] to the out-of-time moment of NOW wherein one may recover his/her true state of Infinite Intelligence, that of a LIVING CHRIST.
rk: Understand that the Intellect is ABSOLUTELY necessary for use in TECHNICAL problem solving and communication with other Intellects, but is the source of all conflict, division, pain and suffering when used to solve problems in the NON TECHNICAL realm which is life itself.
rk: One must understand when to use the time-bound, aftermoment based, linear, analytical Intellect in matters couched in dead, dualism-based concepts, and when to let it lay fallow and merely PAY ATTENTION and BE AWARE in the living moment of NOW and allow life itself to tell its story.
rk: In that state of UNBOUNDED AWARENESS, one can be said to have "LET GO and LET GOD." In that timeless moment of NOW, a surrender of the part, the fragment, the conditioning-driven ego takes place through its insightful, rightful acknowledgment of its True relationship to the WHOLE.
rk: Any methodology to achieve such state of consciousness is a sham, a deception. Its ego directed, fragmented energy can only lead to the illusory realms based in SELF-HYPNOSIS.
rk: There is no METHOD to PAYING ATTENTION, to BEING AWARE, is there?
rk: That's as simple and as difficult as it is. How many throughout history have understood it? How many understand it now?
a: I will not perceive my self and all of the others things ..." So, 'sunnyata' (the state of emptyness) would have been reached? and 'sunnyata' means absense of being?
rk: All worldly religions will take you to the precipice of limited human intellectual consciousness, for they are ALL based in mythology, mysticism, and conditioned thought. The few, the Christs, the Buddhas, the Patanjali's of the world, who have taken that one step beyond have broken the shackles of conditioning which bind and enslave other men and have learned what it means to FLY in FREEDOM. Those who come ego-bound to the precipice with methodology, with a roadmap, and take the step, but with trepidation, self-doubt and fear, have only learned what it means to FALL.
Sun May 27 09:02:31 2001
Swift 2-2 wrote:
Raymond Karczewski (arkenterprises.com) wrote:
s: During these last two weeks, I have taken a hard, objective look at our local militias. My conclusions are depressing. It may even be that Kevin? Potok was correct when he stated militias are dying. What I saw when I looked at local militias was a lack of leadership with ability. Here in North Western Pennsylvania, I saw a so called "leader" who is too lazy to be believed. Several months ago, I gave a compass orientation course in the woods heavy with snow. The actual "leader" sat back eating glazed donuts and drinking coffee with triple sugars in the warmth of his business. Participation was about 11 individuals. The actual "leader" is a self promoted "Major", with absolutely zero military skills. I have since withdrawn from this group. I took a look to another group a couple counties east of here. There the "leader" is engaged in an attempt to consolidate as many militias as possible under her authority. Here again, military background is questionable. But the real problem is the wasted effort of consolidation when those energies would be better spent on training.It seems that puting personal ego ahead of the mission is more important in both groups. There is a solid group south of here with very good personnel. I have affilliated myself with these people. But, they are few in number. That seems to always be the case. Those individuals who are really dedicated would find it hard to field a squad, when push comes to shove. I would like to know if there are others out there, anywhere, who are reaching the same conclusions. Or conversely, if you are having good experiences in your area.
rk: AS A CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, take the following measures, not as an organized group member, but as an INDIVIDUAL.
rk: DO NOT GIVE UP YOUR GUNS!!
rk: TAKE BACK YOUR MONEY from the hands of the bankers, the politicians, and the bureaucrats so that you may end the momentum of their long history of using your own money against you. The way to stop TYRANNY is to remove the money which fuels it.
rk: END TAXATION: Insist our Federal, State and Local Government bodies fund their operations from their hidden profits as reflected in the CAFR (Confidential Annual Financial Report.)
rk: STOP the REDISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH. Put an end to the PRESENT FEUDAL SYSTEM of MASTERS and SLAVES.
rk: DISAVOW the NATIONAL DEBT! The debt was CREATED out of THIN AIR. Let the profiteers SWALLOW THIN AIR.
rk: ABOLISH the IRS, which is no more than the Collection Agency for the PRIVATE FEDERAL RESERVE
rk: RETURN to a GOLD STANDARD.
rk: BOYCOTT the CREDIT SYSTEM!
rk: DEMAND that the United Nations remove itself from UNITED STATES SOIL.
rk: Instruct our Government to END its membership in the United Nations. Do that and you will have STOPPED the inexorable march toward the CONSOLIDATION OF POWER of a NEW WORLD ORDER.
rk: RESTORE to this NATION a government "Of the People, By the People, and For the People" and indeed "WE SHALL NOT PERISH FROM THIS EARTH."
rk: .....All this can be done WITHOUT A SHOT BEING FIRED IN ANGER!
rk: THERE are MORE OF US than THERE ARE OF THEM!
rk: DO YOU WANT PEACE ON EARTH? THE ABOVE NONVIOLENT, PEACEFUL APPROACH IS THE SIMPLEST, MOST DIRECT, AND ABSOLUTE WAY TO IT!
The following libelous attacks arise from the keyboards of assorted anonymous government/media disinformation agents who, through disruption, intimidation, and character assassination control the flow of information on public Usenet Newsgroups/Forums
Why would anyone listen to a documented fraud like you?
Re: AN OBJECTIVE LOOK AT OUR MILITIA ! (Raymond Karczewski)
Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 18:33:23 GMT
From: What law school do you claim youattended (unknown)
Where did you say you went to law school? Why do you refuse to answer? YOU MUST HAVE SOMETHING YOU'RE HIDING. And why do the people at Who's Who disavow having published anything about you in the books you claim you appear in? Why should anyone listen to someone who can't tell a straight story if his life depended on it? Instead of spamming more asinine crap about guns and revolution, state the facts underpinning your claims. You're obviously a psychotic hoping people will still take anything you say seriously, despite the documentation proving you're a fraud.
rk: Your title "Why would anyone listen to a documented fraud like you?"...is MISSING something.
What is suspiciously absent, is any "DOCUMENTATION" at all of anything you are asserting. Curious, isn't it?
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More results of the investigation.All your claims are false
Re: Why would anyone listen to a documented fraud like you? (What law school do you claim youattended)
Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 18:59:57 GMT
From: Stare hard into that MIRROR OF TRVTH (unknown)
Ray has made several more claims that records prove are false.
1) Ray claims to be a "internationally famous writer and philosopher." In fact, Ray has never worked in either capacity anywhere is any country, and is recognized by no publisher or professional organization in either regard. He worked as a low-level cop in California before he was forced to retire (the police say Ray is "disabled," but no further details are available in this regard), was a security guard for a few years after that, then developed a gambling addiction in Nevada which cost him his life's savings.
2) Ray claims to have published books and articles. An exhaustive Lexis-Nexis search indicates he has never done either. He made a set of audio tapes which he himself paid for and tries to sell through his web site. He also wrote a very brief essay which, again, he paid to have copied by a printers shop, but there is no record at all of any publisher ever publishing anything written by him either here or in any other country. In other words, Ray has not published one single article or book, despite his repeated claims to the contrary.
rk: Perhaps your investigative skills need a bit more honing. Check out the ISBN numbers accompanying my books and tapes. You'll also find the information you "are not looking for" in the Library Of Congress, and BOWKERS.
3) Ray claims his "agent" and "publisher" is Ark Enterprises, and that he has "offices" at Ark Enterprises. Ark Enterprises is actually Ray and his wife, not an agent or publisher, as Ray claims. Further, Ark Enterprises has no offices. They simply do not exist anywhere, and never have. In other words, his story of having both an agent and offices at a publishing house are completely bogus, exactly like his claims of having attended law school, and of being included in several volumes of Who's Who (these lies have been forcibly removed from various venues where Ray posted them by no less than Marquis itself, which disavows Ray's claims in no uncertain terms). So far the investigation has been able to verify NONE of Ray's claims which he has repeatedly spread in cyberspace in an attempt to falsely enhance his own image before people who don't know the truth about him. Every lie you tell will be revealed for what it is Ray, and the MIRROR OF TRVTH will make what you are known by all those you've tried to scam.
Most of this is old news.
rk: I suggest your read my comments to wolfman in "The Dissolution of the Christ Myth -- The Emergence of the Christ State!! Fri, 25 May 2001 19:01:46 +0100" regarding my challenge to all to find a single "Contradiction in Essence" without first manufacturing it, then positing it as originating from me. *NOT A WORD* Of what you are promoting above is accurate. Why not post the comments from Marquis Who Who and Amazon.com? I'd be anxious to see what you can manufacture out of those contacts.
I am sure however that most, if not all reading the above, can see the libelous comments flung about indiscriminately are nothing more than the deceptive approach of a cowardly anonymous disinformation agent who throws out his own manufactured assertions, hoping that something will eventually stick. Anybody notice the total absence of anything accompanying such charges which even resemble a scintilla of evidence?
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Re: More results of the investigation.All your claims are false (Stare hard into that MIRROR OF TRVTH)
Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 19:56:45 GMT
From: Didn't know the stuff about Marquis tho (unknown)
I didn't realize Marquis had reacted so badly to Ray's lies about being in their volumes. Not a smart idea Ray to drag a real publisher into you myths! Where were the claims removed?
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The rage of Marquis
Re: Most of this is old news. (Didn't know the stuff about Marquis tho)
Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 20:01:27 GMT
From: Not happy about Ray's fraud (unknown)
Ray had issued the false claims of being in several Marquis volumes on amazon.com and Barnes and Noble. I guess he thought people would buy his vanity essay if they believed his claims. Marquis had both companies remove the claims as soon as they found out about them.
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It looks like this too is fictional
Re: What Confidential Annual Financial Report?
Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 19:43:34 GMT
From: No relation to militias as Ray claims (unknown)
The closest thing I could find to such a report is the requirement that officials each personally file something called an Annual Confidential Financial Disclosure Report. This is a personal ethics requirement for each individual functioning in certain capacities within certain departments of the federal government, and bears no relation to militia expenditures as Ray claims.
rk: Where, pray tell do you see any link between the CAFR and the militias asserted by me? Take another look at the original article "AN OBJECTIVE LOOK AT OUR MILITIA !." You can't seem to manage your own deceptions even in the same article, eh?. Such shoddy work does not bode well for your continued employment as a government/media sponsored/supported mind controller/disinformation agent -- that is, of course-- unless you are attempting to CYA (government parlance for "Cover Your Ass") in working up a Plausible Denial defense that you are not employed by government/ media.
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The "CAFR" is fictional. Nothing you say can be trusted.
Re: AN OBJECTIVE LOOK AT OUR MILITIA ! (Raymond Karczewski)
Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 19:54:28 GMT
From: What are you hoping to accomplish bylies (unknown)
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It don't see what Ray has to do with religion
Re: Speaking of folks trying to bend heads with religion... (Bert)
Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 19:33:30 GMT
From: Ray's all bombast, & no wisdom at all (unknown)
The remarks he makes ostensibly about religion have nothing, but nothing, to do with spirituality. They are obviously meant solely as an easy way to self-aggrandizement. Does a spiritually enlightened man act the abusive and violent way Ray does? Of course not. He's just another two-bit hypocrite full of bombast, empty of soul, and lacking all discernment and intelligence. What "pearls" could such an offensive and bankrupt fraud cast before anyone?
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The sole reason Raymond Karczewski is amazing
Re: Town Square (New Admin)
Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 20:20:03 GMT
From: Psychosis must be a terrific thing! (unknown)
He really has no contact with reality at all, does he? That sure makes life very simple for him. All he has to do is ignore facts that prove everything he says is a documentable lie, and never answer any questions put to him. Those pesky facts! He just goes merrily along, dead silent about the revelations of his massive fraud, spamming increasingly insane posts about fictional government reports and global conspiracies against him, and pretends every story he's narrated about himself is true. It must be great being on the wrong end of a psychotic break.
Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 23:08:55 GMT
From: IceNine (icenine@locnet.digitalchainsaw.com) wrote:
Raymond Karczewski (arkent@arkenterprises.com) wrote:
in: Documentation?
rk: Of what? You have made my case for me. The first example you offer is that of a citation received in 1994. You have extracted excerpts taken out of context from the letter I wrote to the Traffic court regarding the matter. I was cited with a violation of a nonenforceable California Vehicle Code (CVC) violation 21450 cvc. see below.
rk: I Stopped by the courthouse in Burney, California on the way back from my trip to Reno and contacted the Traffic Clerk's office. When I told her of the CVC number, the unidentified woman clerk said she could find "no trace of section 21450 CVC." I returned home to Oregon. In the interim, I received a notice from the court, but the notice showed that the CVC section number had been *altered* by some unknown person from the courthouse to read Section 22450 a CVC. That tampering would have invalidated the citation on its face and foreclose upon any further court action in a Justice oriented Court of Law. It soon became apparent that such was not the case in Shasta County, California.
rk: It was then I wrote the court the letter you quoted from indicating that the laws (section numbers) cannot be changed at the whim of courthouse personnel, and since the Court System operates on the strict Letter of the Law, the Citation on its face is flawed and therefore the issue cries for dismissal. (I see you forgot to add that in its proper context, eh, icenine?)
in: rk: : > I draw your attention to the discrepancy on the CVC Section I was cited for and the number listed on the courtesy Notice.. (I had difficulty in finding the section nbr. on the courtesy notice.
in: rk: : > The citation lists CVC Sect 21450 while the notice lists 22450a CVC. I was advised by a clerk in your office that they could find no trace of section 21450 CVC.
in: ***Had Ray actually used the net for something other than a screed fest, he could have found the following in 15 seconds or less.
in: From the California Vehicle Code, EASILY located at: http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/calawquery?codesection=veh&codebody=&hits= 20
21450. (a) Whenever traffic is controlled by official traffic control signals showing different colored lights, color-lighted arrows, or color-lighted bicycle symbols, successively, one at a time, or in combination, only the colors green, yellow, and red shall be used, except for pedestrian control signals, and those lights shall indicate and apply to drivers of vehicles, operators of bicycles, and pedestrians as provided in this chapter. (b) This section shall remain in effect only until January 1, 2005, and as of that date is repealed, unless a later enacted statute, that is enacted before January 1, 2005, deletes or extends that date.
rk: The above is not an enforceable section and therefore it is moot.
in: And just for the sake of argument....
22450. (a) The driver of any vehicle approaching a stop sign at the entrance to, or within, an intersection, or railroad grade crossing shall stop at a limit line, if marked, otherwise before entering the crosswalk on the near side of the intersection. If there is no limit line or crosswalk, the driver shall stop at the entrance to the intersecting roadway or railroad grade crossing.
rk: But that was not the CVC Section that I was cited for! So what is the point you are trying to make.
rk: More attempts by icenine at obfuscation and misdirection
in: From: "TIMOTHY THOMPSON"
in: District Attorney, Josephine County Oregon
in: To: Raymond Karczewski
in: Subject: Response to Questions re Motor Vehicles
Dear Mr Karczewski:
tt: I am in receipt of your e-mail inquiry re driver's licenses and motor vehicles. Your inquiry to me contains three questions. The first deals with an "unalienable right to liberty being converted into a privilege" by the State of Oregon. The second question refers to possible distinctions between automobiles and motor vehicles for licensing purposes. The third question relates to possible distinctions between non-commercial versus commercial uses of motor vehicles for licensing purposes.
tt: I do not have the time to adequately research, brief, or explore the intricacies of constitutional law with you, but I will try to provide some guidance.
tt: If you proceed upon your stated course of action, perhaps the opportunity will arise to develop some appellate law in this state. As a matter of historical background, the right to travel is not expressly addressed in the US Constitution, though its nature has been recognized through various analytical processes in a variety of cases. Its source has been discussed in connection with the Privileges and Immunities Clause, the 14th Amendment, and the Commerce Clause, among others, depending upon the precise issues raised.
tt: All powers not exclusively delegated to the federal government, or expressly prohibited by constitutional limitations, are reserved to the states (per the 10th Amendment to the US Constitution). Since the federal government has not passed uniform national legislation re driver competencies and rules of the road (i.e. the federal government has not "occupied the field") and constitutional prohibitions are not express, all fifty states have adopted legislation impacting motor vehicles and driver competency standards to promote public safety and welfare on their public roads.
tt: With regard to your first question, I am not sure what your precise question is, since you are blending phrases from the Declaration of Independence with those from constitutional sources.. In the context of your letter, however, I am assuming you are questioning whether or not a state can adopt regulations or pass legislation which can impact what you characterize as an "Unalienable Right to Liberty." If you are referring to a right to travel, the answer is "yes." The issue, and similar licensing issues, have been raised in many jurisdictions and most reported decisions have supported limitations on the right to travel. Appellate decisions addressing these issues can be found in decisions from many state courts, the various federal courts, and the US Supreme Court. Hendrick v. Maryland, 235 U. 610 (1915) is an early US Supreme Court case recognizing the "privilege" of driving a motor vehicle on the public roads of a state. The case further recognizes the state's interest in regulating, and even restricting, the "privilege" of driving in order to promote the safety and protection of the public on its roads. In accord are a 1938 Opinion of the Oregon Attorney General, at page 632, City of Salina v. Wisden, 737 P2d 981 (1987)( Supreme Court of Utah), Berberian v. Petit , 374 A2d 791 (1977) Supreme Court of Rhode Island), and City of Spokane v. Port, 716 P2d 945 (1986) ( a Washington Court of Appeals decision), to name a few. The privilege of using public highways and roads can be regulated by requiring driver's licenses, competency testi of drivers, proof of financial responsibility, minimum equipment standards for vehicle safety and operation, etc. There is no constitutionally recognized right to travel by motor vehicle on public roads without complying with a state's legislatively created regulatory process. If you disagree with the decisions of your legislators, you should contact them. Your second question (generally) asks whether or not Oregon law considers use of a private automobile for non-commercial purposes to be the same as use of a motor vehicle for commercial purposes. The answer is "yes." with regard to licensing issues and restrictions.
tt: First, the Oregon Motor Vehicle Code defines "motor vehicle" to mean " a vehicle that is self- propelled or designed for self -propulsion." ORS 801.630. "Automobile" is not part of the lexicon, nor is it defined, but an automobile certainly falls within the definition of a motor vehicle. Definitions exist for "commercial driver license," "commercial motor vehicle," " commercial vehicle," "driver license," "driving privilege," and "vehicle" in Chapter 801 of the Motor Vehicle Code. In general, the commercial aspects of driving activities result in more stringent regulation than private, non-commercial activities. Each driving activity, however, is subject to legislative and administrative regulation.
tt: The answer to your third inquiry is "yes" for the same reasons as specified in the previous paragraphs. The policy reasons are set forth in ORS 801.020. Exemptions from coverage of the Vehicle Code are set forth in ORS 801.026 and ORS 801. 030. these exemptions do not appear to apply to your hypothetical situations.
tt: If you choose to let your drivers license expire, your right to travel in this state will not be impacted so long as you choose to travel on foot, by horse, by bicycle, as a passenger in a vehicle operated by a duly licensed driver, by common carrier, or in or upon some other conveyance not requiring you to have a valid license to operate that conveyance. Your right to travel is only impacted when using a motor vehicle on public roads. If you choose to drive a motor vehicle in this or any other state, it appears as though you will be subjecting yourself to the applicable licensing requirements of that state.
tt: I hope this response has been helpful to you. I apologize for the brevity of the response, however, time constraints and the press of other matters limit the time I can justify spending on such issues.
tt: Very truly yours,
Timothy R. Thompson District Attorney
rk: icenine, I notice you conveniently edited out all of my comments to DA Thompson, thereby giving an out-of-context picture of the communication.
rk: Here are a few comments made by me on this date, May 27th, 2001, which may add some clarity to the spirit of the message between Josephine County, Oregon DA Tim Thompson and myself. One can't count on you to be fair about offering so-called evidence in its full context, can one, icenine ?
rk: Whether or not Oregon law holds that traveling in one's private automobile to be the same as the use of a motor vehicle being "driven" for commercial purposes is really an issue of whether or not the State of Oregon wishes to follow the U.S. Constitution or strike off on its own unconstitutional path.
rk: Unalienable Rights are God Given Rights. They cannot be legislated away, converted into "privileges," or in any way stripped away from a sovereign citizen, that is of course unless we the People of these United States of America are no longer living under a Constitutional form of Government, but are now the victims of a judicial system which has incrementally shifted into a system of law which administers justice according to Corporate Maritime Law.
rk: That is the real question to be determined publicly. It is for that reason that I have not been arrested since September 23, 1999 when I allowed my ODL to expire and did not choose to renew it. Instead, I have reasserted my Unalienable Right to Liberty which allows one to Travel the Roadways of the Country in their private automobile for private purposes.
rk: It would appear that the State of Oregon Law Enforcement/Judicial Industry has made a deliberate choice NOT TO face such a publicly viewed Constitutional question by arresting me for "driving without a license."
rk: By the way, District Attorney Thompson resigned his position shortly after my wife Anita's exposure of his handling of the Grand Jury Vote Fraud Investigation.
rk: icenine presents as so-called evidence another post of mine regarding subsequent communications I had with the State of Oregon
in: rk: > The third ticket I received was at the hands of a California Highway Patrol officer on Dec. 26th, 1994. For details of that encounter see: http://x29.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=502131724.1
in: rk: > It is on the basis of the third citation that the State of California sent me a notice that effective March 25th, 1998 my driving "privileges" to operate a "Motor Vehicle" were suspended.
in: rk: > On July 13th, 1999 I received a letter from the Oregon DMV stating "We have recently received information that your driving privileges is withdrawn in the State of California under license/reference number X3978560.
rk: Since I had no contract with the State of California for the *privilege* of possessing a drivers license (as my earlier California License was surrendered when I moved to the State of Oregon in 1982 and applied for an Oregon driver's license some 12 years prior to the date of the California citation), the State of California could not suspend or revoke such nonexistent privileges.
ORdmv: You cannot get an Oregon driver license or permit when your driving privilege is suspended or withdrawn in a different state."
rk: See above. Bureaucratic smoke and mirrors under "color of Office." Note that Oregon did not take any action to suspend or revoke my "driving privileges" in the State of Oregon. Nor did they ever attempt to do so prior to my allowing my ODL to expire and not renew it.
ORdmv: "Before we can issue anything to you for Oregon driving privileges, including a duplicate license or license renewal, you will need to satisfy the reinstatement requirements in California.
rk: This is the Interstate extortion I have referred to in the past. What has this to do with a government purportedly bound to serve, protect and follow the tenets of our U.S. Consitution?
dmv: We recommend you take care of this immediately because any delay could put you in danger of being cited for driving while suspended."
rk: By Whom? The State of Oregon certainly had no intention of suspending my drivers license at that time or they would have.
rk: Again, icenine offers as evidence words taken from a post not written by me. Just another one of icenine's carefully selected, heavily edited, taken out of context, manufactured "Contradiction in Essence,"
rk: icenine, why did you not choose to present the original communication with Bachman's predecessor, Paul Canning?
Subject: No Apology from Karczewski Who Cannot Find Himself (Was some other crap Newsgroups: alt.fan.art-bell, alt.religion.ray-karczewski Date: 1999/07/22
To Thomas Bachmann,
Managing Director, Marquis Who's Who
rk: >> I am still awaiting your response to this matter. As you can see, the libel campaign on USENET newsgroups regarding my biography appearing in the16th Edition of "Marquis Who's Who in the World® 1999" continues when a simple word from you could bring it to a halt...
tb: "...Your biography was not accepted for publication in Who's Who in the World, 16th ed.
rk: Now HERE'S THE *REST OF THE STORY.*
Anita's Letter to Marquis Who's Who in America Publications.
Subject: Status of
4/9/98, 12:33 am
pcanning@reedref.com
From Anita Graves Karczewski
Dear Sirs:
On March 15th, 1998 I sent the following e-mail to your office. To date there has been no response to it from your office. Since our last communication we have set up a new domain, and would like to announce my husband's inclusion in the upcoming 19th edition of "Marquis Who's Who in the World" on our new Web site. Would you confirm the selection committee's decision to include my husband's biography in that publication?
Delivered-To: arkent@cdsnet.net
From: "Canning, Paul" (paul.canning@renp.com)
To: "'Raymond Karczewski'" (arkent@cdsnet.net)
Subject: RE: Status of
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 09:19:17 -0400
X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3)
Raymond Karczewski was published in Who's Who in the West 1998-1999 26th edition. Although you are welcome to announce this fact on your web site, we do not authorize you to use the "Marquis Who's Who" logo. Mr. Karczewski will be published in Who's Who in the World 1999 16th edition in January 1999.
rk: Based on that good faith Information received from Managing Editor Paul Canning of Marquis Who's Who, I inserted a comment on my Web Site regarding my inclusion in Who's Who in the World 1999, 16th edition.
rk A great deal of furor arose amongst the disinformation agents when it was discovered that my name did not appear in that volume as stated by Mr. Canning. I had operated in good faith upon Canning's word and had not bothered to actually check the volume to verify my inclusion as I did not purchase the volume of "Who's Who in the World" nor did I travel to the library to confirm it.
rk; A campaign was launched by the disinformation agents to label me a *liar.* That is when I wrote to Tom Bachman, Paul Canning's successor, and received the information above.
rk: Based on Bachman's email comments, the information was immediately stricken from my website on the same day. I offered an apology to all newsgroup readers for the confusion arising from the actions of newsgroup disinformation agents and executives of Marquis Who's Who Publications who say one thing and do another. Business operates on good faith agreements and understanding between men of integrity. Without trusting another's given word, business would come to a standstill.
rk: I would not have expected a company such as Who's Who in America Publications, which prides itself and trades on their reputation and integrity, to have acted as they did in this matter.
rk: Prior to that communication from Bachman, I had been inundated by Marquis Who's Who with requests for my biographical information and periodic updates. Since the Internet uproar launched by these same perennial disinformation agents, there has been no further contact with me by any agents from Marquis Who's Who in America Publications. Anybody find that Interesting? I certainly do!!!
rk: icenine offers the following as evidence that I had lied, He seeks to hold me responsible for relying in "good faith" upon the actions of another. Sorry, icenine, that does not QUALIFY as a "Contradiction in Essence" let alone does it remotely approach a lie. I suggest you get back to the drawing board, or at least begin to work on your own defense.
Subject: Open Challenge to the Lemming Conspirators.
Date: 1997/06/26
Author: Raymond Karczewski (arkent@cdsnet.net)
rk: [...] Find just "ONE" (l) material contradiction "in essence" of anything that I have written on and off the net over the last six years of writing, and you have indeed discredited me. Surely that is the way for bullies to make their case that "Ray Karczewski is a liar."
Date: 1997/11/28
rk: Anyone out there who wishes a change in their lives at the fundamental core of their being, PAY FULL ATTENTION TO THE FOLLOWING. With whatever level of consciousness you now possess, and from this moment forward, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER tell another lie.
Date: 1999/06/15
in: rk: "On the international scene, his biographical profile appears in Marquis 16th Edition of "Who's Who in the World® 1999"
rk: Here again, icenine posts this letter out of Context. even though the issue was fully exposed just 5 days ago on May 22, 2001, in post "An FBI Scandal in the making" Persistent deceiver, isn't he?
Letter from the FBI
Anita Karczewski
Raymond Karczewski
Post Office Box 1870
Cave Junction, OR 97523
Dear Mr. and Mrs Karczewski
The FBI is in receipt of a package of information you provided to the office of Senator Ron Wyden concerning difficulties you have experienced on the Internet. The information has been reviewed and a formal record is being made in our files. No violation of federal law that meets investigative guidelines is presented and no investigation is being undertaken by the FBI.
A copy of this letter is being provided to the office Senator Ron Wyden as requested.
By: Steven R. Fiddler
Supervisory Senior Resident Agent
rk: So there you have the disinformation handiwork of icenine.
rk: Is anybody railing over this issue of Government/Media Sponsored/Supported Mind Control/Disinformation experiments being conducted upon users of the Internet. You ought to be!! Could any of you stand up to this kind of harassment/libel for six years? Some day, you may have to. If they can do it to one person, they can do it to all.
rk: WAKE UP, AMERICA!!!
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Marquis says you're lying about this.
Re: AN OBJECTIVE LOOK AT OUR MILITIA !
Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 12:22:17 GMT
From: They're very emphatic about your lies (unknown)
You submitted your name, or Anita did, over the Internet. No one at Marquis was ever clamoring to do business with you, as you claim: I spoke to them myself on the phone. Still hoping no one will check your claims? I think you must have had serious problems with them too Ray: they were damned emphatic about you not being in the volumes you claimed, and all your lies were in fact wiped off multiple websites where you had posted them. You're the only one lacking integrity here Ray, not Marquis: they didn't realize the risks of having kooks submit lies to them by Internet. Now they do, thnaks to your out of control psychosis.
rk: When exactly did you verify the above information with Marquis Who's Who Publications?
rk: I just posted the article last night, Sunday, May 27th at approx. 11:42 PM. PST. It is now 9:00 am PST, a little mor that 9 hours later. on May 28th, 2001, Memorial Day. A no-business day.
rk: Care to explain how you made contact with an office that was CLOSED?
rk: Perhaps NOW, readers will understand why you post under the name "Unknown" eh?
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More celebrity for Raymond K!
Re: AN OBJECTIVE LOOK AT OUR MILITIA ! (Raymond Karczewski)
Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 12:30:08 GMT
From: It's SO easy to write these things Ray! (unknown)
From: Professor Krishna Murti Oxford University Press Oxford England 66666
Dear Mr. Karczewski,
You are the greatest living writer and philosopher in the world, and we at Oxford University Press would be thrilled beyond all thought and measure to have exclusive rights to publishing your earth-shattering and mind boggling works of genius for the rest of your natural life. Please say yes, O Lord of Lords, have pity on us mere mortal being of BASSACKWARDS insight and IGNORAMUS thought. Your holy brilliance and vibratory resonance will grace our humble organization, and I will personally kiss your fat ass.
Signed, Krishna Murti Managing editor of works of ground-breaking genius Oxford University Press
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I like how he politely points out to Raymond
Re: I'll bet Thompson quit given this kook was after him (Who needs psychotic paranoids after them)
Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 14:29:57 GMT
From: At least keep your sources straight Ray! (unknown)
that he can't even keep the Declaration of Independence straight in his own mind from the Constitution. I too am very curious: you insist you learned this in some law school, yet refuse to actually name the school. What law school could possibly have taught you to confound such functionally distinct documents Ray? Pity the civil servants where Ray and Anita live: having basket cases like this out to cut your throat is enough to drive anyone into private practice.
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Shame on you Raymond
Re: AN OBJECTIVE LOOK AT OUR MILITIA ! (Raymond Karczewski)
Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 12:45:53 GMT
From: DAs have real, vital work to do. (unknown)
Do you have any idea of how desperately busy DAs are? It is *obscene* for you to waste this poor guy's non-existent time and energy with your paranoid, delusional nonsense. He probably barely has time to communicate with colleagues, victim's families, and judges, without your crackpot harrassment as well. The man has real work to do, and vital work at that. Let him do it, and keep your mental illness at home. Just because you have nothing do to in your etnire life, it doesn't mean other people have wasted theirs as well. You're despicable.
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No Tom Bachman at Who's Who. What's the story here?
Re: Marquis says you're lying about this. (They're very emphatic about your lies)
Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 15:28:36 GMT
From: I'll send your post to the editors (unknown)
rk: Once again, I must ask you -- When exactly did you verify the above information with Marquis Who's Who Publications?
rk: I just posted the article last night, Sunday, May 27th at approx. 11:42 PM. PST. It is now 9:17 am PST, some 9 and 1/2 hours later. on May 28th, 2001, Memorial Day. A no-business day.
rk: Care to explain how you made contact with an office that was CLOSED?
rk: Perhaps NOW, readers will understand why you post under the name "Unknown" eh?
UNKNOWN ANSWERS WITH:
Simple, you boob. No name like this at their site.
Re: No Tom Bachman at Who's Who. What's the story here? (Raymond Karczewski)
Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 17:05:30 GMT
From: You're landing yourself in serioustrouble (unknown)
unk: This, you jerk, is why I will recontact them by phone about your lies. I think they'll be very interested in hearing that you are spreading lies about their company, and dragging them through the s**t you revel in daily on the Internet. You migth want to back off: this is exactly the kind of fraud that could land you in court, only not the way you've been threatening people with for decades.
unk: Go ahead Ray: make my day!
rk: The name of Who's Who in America Publications managing edidor Tom Bachman name didn't appear anywhere in posts to newsgroups or forums until icenine's response to my article "Re: AN OBJECTIVE LOOK AT OUR MILITIA ! posted yesterday Sun, 27 May 2001 23:08:55 GMT
rk: In essence you are saying that icenine posted an article yesterday May 27th with a copy and pasted excerpt dated "1999/07/22" containing Who's Who in America Publications, Managing Editor Tom Bachman's name, but such person DOES NOT EXIST, because you checked out a website and that name was not found there?
rk: I SEE! So does everyond else SEE. Ever heard the one "Oh what a web we weave, when first we practice to deceive." Keep it up though. Into the evidence pile this all goes. All the FBI has to do is link actual idenities to these posts and your house of cards and those who employ you will collapse, eh?
The sadness is so, perhaps, will our GOVERNMENT!!
Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 15:28:36 GMT
From: I'll send your post to the editors (unknown)
unk: No Tom Bachman at Who's Who. What's the story here?
rk: Once again, I must ask you -- When exactly did you "verify" the above information with Marquis Who's Who Publications?
rk: I just posted the article last night, Sunday, May 27th at approx. 11:42 PM. PST. It is now 9:17 am PST, some 9 and 1/2 hours later. on May 28th, 2001, Memorial Day. A no-business day.
rk: Care to explain how you made contact with an office that was CLOSED?
rk: Perhaps NOW, readers will understand why you post under the name "Unknown," eh?
unk: Simple, you boob. No name like this at their site.
Re: No Tom Bachman at Who's Who. What's the story here?
Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 17:05:30 GMT
From: You're landing yourself in serioustrouble (unknown)
unk: This, you jerk, is why I will recontact them by phone about your lies. I think they'll be very interested in hearing that you are spreading lies about their company, and dragging them through the s**t you revel in daily on the Internet. You migth want to back off: this is exactly the kind of fraud that could land you in court, only not the way you've been threatening people with for decades.
unk: Go ahead Ray: make my day!
rk: The name of "Who's Who in America Publications" managing editor Tom Bachman didn't appear anywhere in recent posts to newsgroups or forums until icenine's response to my article "Re: AN OBJECTIVE LOOK AT OUR MILITIA ! posted yesterday Sun, 27 May 2001 23:08:55 GMT
rk: In essence you are saying that icenine posted an article yesterday May 27th with a "copy and pasted" excerpt dated "1999/07/22" containing Who's Who in America Publications' Managing Editor Tom Bachman's name, but such person DOES NOT EXIST because you checked out a website and that name was not found there?
rk: I SEE! So does everyone else SEE. Ever heard the one "Oh what a web we weave, when first we practice to deceive"?
rk: Keep em coming, though, because into the evidence pile this all goes.
rk: Let me put it to you and the other disinformation agents this way: before this issue is brought to closure (and I assure you IT WILL be brought to closure), there shall be no stone left unturned, No Government, Media, or Corporate official involved in this issue shall escape the utmost scrutiny of the "Light of Truth."
rk: The documented evidence pile in this case IS ENORMOUS. Lives will be ruined, reputations destroyed, and all participants will reap their "Just Karmic Reward."
rk: All that remains is for the American Public to break the hypnotic spell of Inertia, of apathy, which binds them to their conditioned, hypnotic sleep. It is time for them to WAKE UP before it is too late.
rk: Americans need to recognize that the spirit within them is the same spirit which existed in Nazi Germany in the last Century. It is the same spirit of INTERTIA which allowed the Jewish people to rationalize that what was happening all around them couldn't possibly happen to them, and so they waited TOO LONG TO ACT, and then, as the inertia stripped away their WILL TO ACT -- IT WAS TOO LATE!!
rk: Like fearful sheep, not unlike the American people of today, the Jews, Gypsies, and all others perceived by prevailing government policies of the time to be inferior or nonproductive were rounded up, herded into boxcars and shipped off to slave labor concentration camps where the *showers* awaited.
rk: How long will the American Public ignore the existence of New World Order FEMA detention centers now standing unfilled and waiting?
rk: In bringing this issue of Government/Media sponsored/supported Mind Control/Disinformation experiments on the Internet to a successful closure, all that remains for the FBI to do is to link the actual idenities of all of the anonymous disinformation agents to these posts and the structure that you and those who employ you have built on and off the Internet will collapse like a "house of cards."
rk: The bottom line is that in exposing this Government/Media sponsored/supported Mind Control/Disiniformation Campaign on the Internet, our existing GOVERNMENT may also collapse!!
rk: Don't let the existing "TRASHED" Petition at http://www.PetitionOnline.com/RayNita1/petition.html INTIMIDATE or PREVENT you from lending your support and signature to a grassroots movement which WILL HOLD our errant Government Accountable. That is why the Disinformation Agents have purposely TRASHED IT!!
rk: Today you only face the INTIMIDATION of WORDS..
rk: Tomorrow, you may be facing the INTIMIDATION of a Gun.
rk: WAKE UP, AMERICA.
Mon, 28 May 2001 16:53:51 +0100
The Wolfman (Wolfy@blackwolfents.com) wrote:
Raymond Karczewski (arkent@arkenterprises.com) wrote:
w: "I have a compulsive need to be a reasonable man;"
rk: wolfman, you said this of yourself.
rk; What a damning statement for one to blurt out to the world, eh?
rk: Especially one who takes such *great pride* in his Intellectual based, technical ability to obfuscate, misdirect and create doubt in the malleable minds of conditioned "munchkins," through "flawed premised" logical manipulations.
rk: That simple sentence "I have a compulsive need to be a reasonable man;" expressed by you says it all, doesn't it?
rk: "I," the entity who identifies himself as "wolfman".
rk: "Have a compulsive need" expresses an unbalanced intellectually based desire to fulfill a specific, identifiable state of consciousness which you do not currently possess (at least NOT in the moment the comment was expressed). You also assert (knowingly or unknowingly, consciously or unconsciously) the unfulfilled desire addressed is a chronic one as indicated by the dissonant dualistic energy of that unbalanced intellectual based state of becoming labeled COMPULSION.
rk: "To be" is a phrase indicative of the "time bound" state of becoming, also a self-evident dissonant state of duality expressing its own fragmented, contradictory self. In other words a state of becoming of a conditioned being in search of a goal, not yet achieved, not yet realized.
rk: What is it exactly that you express a time-bound "compulsive" need for?
rk: You say it, LOUD and CLEAR -- To be a "reasonable man?!!"
rk: You wrote these words. They reveal a Truth (for Truth is always self-revealing, self-evident) about yourself. You did so whether you were "aware" of it or not.
rk: wolfman, you excel in quibbling over the "letter of the word." You take great pride in such ability. Yet you remain spiritually blind to the "Spirit of the Word" which eludes your intellectual grasp. Like all Individuals who are introduced to their limited intellectual capacity you rail at the energy of that which is beyond your grasp when expressed by anyone who comports himself with the simple but unmistakable resonance of holistic TRUTH. In other words, a simple man/woman of TRUTH -- A CHRIST, That is why you and the others are so upset with the words of ONE whom you try so hard to discredit. How can you discredit that WHICH YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND? You don't "KNOW" where I am coming from. Therefore you cannot attack it nor can you defend against it. What you defend against is the image you see reflecting back at you when you stand before such a Mirror of Truth. Such is the nature of the Hell on Earth constructed through Spiritual Ignorance.
rk: TRUTH is always expressed holistically. Such communication requires the quietness of a balanced mind. Neither this, nor that vieing for ascendancy, one side over the other. When the dualistic chatter of opposites subside, comes to an end, only the holistic WHAT IS stands. That is the essence of a nondualistic SELF-REVELATION of TRUTH.
rk: That is the out of time moment of NOW, when the Mirror of Truth reflects the dualistic based illusory image which stands before IT. The energy of TRUTH is wordless, penetrating, it cuts through all the intellectual defense mechanisms long held in place by suffering ignoramuses and it goes directly to the blockage where the soul of man awaits patiently while the intellectual blockage is dissolved by the searing energy of TRUTH. In that moment of dissolution, Spiritual Growth occurs and One has understood himself, a little more than he/she did the moment before.
rk: wolfman, you have a talent for the manipulation of the "letter of the word." You are addicted to it. You enjoy the power it gives you over less functional ignoramuses. But you are what you are, a limited INTELLECTUAL.
rk: How do I and others understand that? Your words "I have a compulsive need to be a reasonable man;" tells me so!!
rk: Hell, isn't IT?
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More weirdness and tomfoolery: 5th time today?
Re: Re: The Dissolution of the Christ Myth (Raymond Karczewski)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 11:19:15 GMT
From: Take responsiblity for your own actions (unknown)
Ray, your insistence you are the "Mirror of Truth" is some sort of weird fixation, and one of the greatest ironies on this board. Given everything you've said about yourself that's been revealed to be false these past few days, you have some deep, revealing psychological problem with teling the truth about yourself, and you ironically twist your lies into a self-proclaimed "alternative" reality no one else can see. More interesting and telling about who you are in terms of moral chaarcter(to my mind) is how you rationalize your fraud and abuse of others. The strategy is this: you do whatever base, self-serving, fraudulent thing you feel like doing, then when you're called on it with facts and evidence, you claim your lies and aggression are simply "mirroring" an external corrupt society. You need to understand that **you are displaying only your own corruption** here Ray, no one else's. Your lies mirror nothing but your own deception, **mostly to yourself,** about what a mess you've made of your life. You must now mature past automatically believing yourself to be reality's victim (your primary fantasy of persecution), and realize you've simply capitulated, in wholesale fashion, to your basest desires to conduct yourself in whatever fraudulent way you think you will gain most from.
In other words, the corruption you claim to me mirroring in others is but a solipsistic reflection of the corruption of your degraded mind and soul. You've lost the capacity to act with integrity, truth, and dignity, and have settled for acting like some low-life Internet con man, claiming all the while it's not YOU who is the con man, you're simply "mirroring" corruption. This is **obviously** not true. Take care Ray, and much more importantly, TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOURSELF AND YOUR ACTIONS.
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Ray's "Wholistic TRVTH" is just his lie du jour
Re: More weirdness and tomfoolery: 5th time today? (Take responsiblity for your own actions)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 12:55:33 GMT
From: What's next Ray? (unknown)
So what's next for the ever-expanding and fabulous narrative of Raymond Karczewski's internationally famous life? Trips to the White House? High-level intelligence briefings with domestics and foreign policy advisors? Nobel Prizes? Global clamor for you to calm the raging masses at international peace conferences? The field's wide open if you're sufficiently mentally disturbed that you refuse all distinctions between fantasy and reality. You really suck at this Ray.
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Christ had no need to defraud others
Re: The Dissolution of the Christ Myth (Raymond Karczewski)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 11:40:56 GMT
From: Where did you go to law school? (unknown)
How do you figure this stuff about you being the truth Ray? You lied about your legal schooling, you lied about your "publisher," you lied about your "books," you lied about your "international celebrity," you lied about your "agent," and you lied about your "offices" at your publishing company. In short, YOU LIED ABOUT EVERYTHING. EVRYTHING. It makes no difference that you keep repeating your lies several tiems a day: facts and evidence prove you're still a fraud. So why this farce about you "mirroring" Wolfman's lies? As has been demonstrated SO dramatically, you are the only one spamming lies here several times a day, and you are so lost to reality you claim you're being censored even given that painful (for us) fact.
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What about the journals you claim you published in
Re: Christ had no need to defraud others (Where did you go to law school?)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 13:02:20 GMT
From: Questions about your lieswon't disappear (unknown)
Why are you so terrified of naming your law school and the journals that have accepted your "articles" for publication? Why do you refuse to answer such simple questions that would put an end to this s**t in one fell swoop? You never went to law school did you Ray? Nor did you ever find a single publisher or journal willing to help you work your screeds into something publishable and then publish them. Do you really think the questions will go away miraculously? You've attacked way too many people, all the while proclaiming yourself to be the sole avenue of TRVTH, yet everything you say has been proven to be a lie. Truth doesn't need to threaten people with ruined lives or violence Ray. Your threats and hatred signal only one thing: you're coming apart at the seams now that the full extent of your fraud is starting to ve revealed. It will get no better for you unless you act with integrity and honesty. It is my personal conviction you are incapable of both.
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Again, the irony here's so thick you can cut it
Re: The Dissolution of the Christ Myth (Raymond Karczewski)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 12:42:11 GMT
From: Your obsession/compulsion on this board (unknown)
You posted several attacks this day, all of which have had the effect of digging the credibility hole you find yourself in deeper and deeper. Yet you persist in your threats and attacks in an openly *obsessive and compulsive* way. This suggests you have some real idea of how out of control you are, but you cannot bring yourself to grasp the full truth of the matter: namely, that the obsession and compulsion you attack, ostensibly in relation to this man, have *nothing to do with him.* They are your own Raymond, only your own, and you display them constantly in typically arrogant, self-aggrandizing, and violent terms. It is, of course, your choice what you do with your life Ray, but I just don't understand embracing obvious psychiatric disease, and making such a repeated spectacle of mental illness before perfect strangers over the Internet.
I'm sure you'll be spamming your compuulsive denial to these observations to at least 40 boards around 2:00 AM, along with the usual accusations of AFAB/SKEPTICULT/ROYBOT government/media supported/instigated/encouraged/covered up/funded etc. disinformation agents who are out to get you at all costs. The delusion here is so dense it is hard to understand how anyone could capitulate autonomy and freedom of will to such an obvious psychological fabrication. Why do you feel you have to sneak around in the middle of the night spamming your groundless attacks against anyone who asks you questions about your claims? The answer: because you lack all ethical and intellectual strength to control yourself, **you cannot sleep for all the psychiatric upset you suffer daily,** and you cannot come to grips with your own obsessive penchant for rewriting your personal history is the utmost grandiose terms. That will simply never work. The truth of what you are is just too apparent.