Forum Infiltration by Government Disinformation
Agents. (WAS Re: Ping all Government/Media Disinfotainment
Agents)
"Chadwick Stone©" <chad_stone@127.0.0.1> wrote:
Re: Ping all Government/Media Disinfotainment Agents
Widdershins <sinistre@liripipe.com> wrote:
Re: It is You, cowardly Disinformation Agent, Truthlurker who
don't Know What You Are Talking About!!
Raymond Karczewski (arkent3@earthlink.net) wrote:
cs: > Nope, teh convict is back a day later, being
torlled by Doc Lurky again.
rk: By "Doc Lurky," stone refers to one of their own
disinformation agents who uses a host of alias variations, of "Lurky"
found on this forum.
rk: >>> An irrefutable word about Cowardly Pipsqueaks.
rk: >>>A significant difference can be discerned between your
words and mine. I put my name behind my words like a man, while you
slink around using a host of aliases like a coward.
rk: >>>That is something you can NEVER OVERCOME, as you shall
remain the cowardly pipsqueak that you are no matter what you say or do!
rk: >>>You are allowed to get away with such cowardice only
because lemming-like schmucks you play to, can't tell the difference.
It's called lack of discernment
rk: >>> Hell Isn't it?
rk: Here, widdershins, another disinformation agent runs
interference for his cowardly cohort. Even with such teamwork,
they cannot undo the exposure of their devious trade.
w: >> Prove "Chadwick Stone" is not his real name. You know how
to do it; I've told you how a half dozen times. But, the empty shirt
flaps impuissantly while whining about how the meany heads are using
aliases while they poke him with pointy sticks.
Widdershins
w: >>Ray has said the gummint has no jurisdiction over the
living, breathing, scratching, spitting, semi-coherent, barely
functional naural man. We'll see.
rk: Now to the business at hand. To the moderators of these
forums who are either part of the disinfo program designed to keep the
IGNORANT, ignorant, See: http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialchst.htm#CENSORED
or who lack the backbone to eradicate disinformation agents who are
destroying free speech on the Internet through their carte blanche
abuse of it, shame on you. You provide a platform for the debased
human conduct seen on your forums Yet you hide behind a Satanic
argument of protecting free speech. Do you protect yelling fire
in a theater also?
rk: Why is Raymond Ronald Karczewski© roundly ostracized by
anonymous cowards who will not give their true names while they feel
free to libel another? What is so different about him from the
rest of the posters on your forums? Why does he and his words
"STICK OUT LIKE A SORE THUMB" from the rest of the conversations going
on on your forum. The difference is palpable, is it not? But do
you and your readers understand why?
rk: The reason is quite simple. I am a simple man of
Truth. I am a simple man. I am simple. I am
direct. I am not conniving. I do not weave illusions. I
dispel them.
rk: The ignorance of the contributors to your forum is a
collective spell of satanic ignorance, in spite of their credentials,
their jobs, their position in society. They play the game of
Satanic Deception and expect to get away with it. It is a game
played by consent, and they assume they have immunity from their
debased behavior via the Illusion of Free Speech on the internet,
irregardless of how debased and Satanically afflicted their behavior is
shown to be.
rk: They have been robotically conditioned and trained via a
lifetime of Satanic Conditioning to expect that when they get out of
line, they will be corrected by a smooth-talking, gushy, charming,
positive-imaged hypocrite who will take them by the hand and promise
them salvation if only they believe that no matter what they do, if
they believe in a myth as their "Lord and Savior" who died for their
sins, they shall be saved. So much for "cart blanche" hell
raising, eh?
rk: What these IGNORAMUSES can't stand is a simple man of Truth
just simply POINTING OUT their actions to them in the moment, revealing
their debasement as human beings. That is all. Nothing
more, Nothing Less. They cannot escape their behavior, what's
more their behavior is revealed to all who have the eyes to see and
ears to hear. They have lost their secrecy, their anonymity,
their Satanic protection; they become self-conscious of their own
personal debasement, and now stand fully, openly exposed to the LIGHT
OF TRUTH.
rk; Drives 'em up the wall, doesn't it?
rk: They must call out the full forces of the Satanic Legion of
Disinformation agents to stalk every word of exposure written by a
simple man of Truth, a Christ. They have done so FOR 11 YEARS.
Yet your readers are as DUMB and UNAWARE OF IT this moment as they were
at its inception of the government/media disinformation Internet
campaign 11 years ago.
rk: Where is the so-called responsible government IGNORAMUSES are
trained to rely upon when on Nov. 2, 1997, an Internet petition was
raised to congress to FORCE the FBI to Investigation such crimes of
treason against the American People? see: http://www.petitiononline.com/RayNita1/petition.html
rk: Where is the so-called responsible government which claims to
answer to the Sovereign American People, the True Government of the
land, when this Christ, this simple man of Truth, exposed the
Corruption and Tyranny of the Oregon and Josephine County Courts?
rk: Where is the so-called responsible government which supports
criminal factions leading a disolution of the US Constitution and a
slow but steady assimilation into a SATANIC NEW WORLD ORDER?
rk: Hint: The same place you Moderators and subscribers to
these forums are -- IN SATANIC LA LA LAND, ready to attack a Christ, a
simple man of Truth, because he exposes your corruption to you like NO
OTHER CAN!
rk: HELL, ISN'T IT?
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"No other man but I in the recorded History of
mankind, including JESUS CHRIST, has directly
revealed to the World the SATANIC WEAPON used to
enslave mankind -- INTELLECTUAL THOUGHT!!"
Raymond Ronald Karczewski©
http://www.arkenterprises.com
Reply
Re:
Hello, brother CHRIST!!
Bill,
Good to hear from you. I have added you to my address list as
you requested. I would like to publish your letter to share it
with Internet users. It comes at a time when I am considering
giving up on the American People. See: http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialch204.html#America
Your comments have the ring of Truth to them. I suspect
there are many out there just like you, who are vacillating on whether
to follow up on their spiritual urge to come out of the closet and face
the world openly without the phony affectations of Christian
religiosity. I have been addressing this matter of blocked
spirituality via satanic mind control for 11 years now. Tis a
lonely battle of one speaking Truth to the winds with no echo to be
heard. I understand what it takes for one to step out of the herd
of "go along to get along" and face the consequences of doing so.
I have shared that journey with all who have the eyes to see and ears
to hear -- WITH VERY LITTLE FEEDBACK.
Thank you for yours. I have tired of "beating a dead
horse." True spirituality is not for the weak, timid, and
codependent. I intend to let Americans reap the karmic debt they
have inflicted upon themselves through their conditioned political and
religious ignorance if I receive no feedback between now and the first
of March. Your letter will go a long way to show them what
spiritual courage is.
I am posting your letter on the Internet. I have removed
your last name FOR YOUR PROTECTION against attacks by the legion of
Internet disinformation jerks out there. I will replace it in
future communications, with your permission of course.
Truly, We are all CHRISTS WITH AMNESIA. Tis a shame that
few have the courage to openly live their Christ Consciousness in this
Hellish world they call NORMAL.
.
Thanks,
Raymond Karczewski
At 06:10 AM 2/4/07, you wrote:
My name is Bill at this
time, I live in Pennsylvania. You sound like what I forsee myself
becoming in another 30 years or so, so I suppose there may be some sort
of connection there. Your "Christs with Amnesia" line - I don't
know if that was in reference to an article, a book or what, but it
really struck a chord with me.
I almost fell into myself,
but managed to make it out still whole. I don't know - did you
battle darkness at some point? That was a hellish few years for
me. And now I'm at that most precarious of states - where I'm not
yet fallen, but I still could. I've survived the worst of
the temptations, but yet even though the worst has passed, they haven't
gone away completely. Rather strange to feel that way.
Anyhow, the "CHRISTS with
Amnesia" is a very powerful phrase to me. I've known that I am this for
so long, and it's been hell fighting the demons of egotism that seek to
creep up and make you think that being a Christ is something that makes
you "unique" or "better" - oy, arrogance, what a human
tendancy... But I've known there are others, I've always
known. And you are one, I'm sure of it. And whether or not
I would happen to be one, I realize that even if I am, that doesn't
mean this body always will be. "Free will" and
all.
I'm 35 years old right now,
and I've taken many risky actions to open up the channel from where
I've been to where I am now. I know what this world is, I think
you know it, too. What are we here? "Wardens" or something?
That damned Amnesia.
I'm not entirely certain what I'm supposed to be doing, but I have
faith that all will go according to plan - whatever the plan was that
had been set up prior to this life - and it's got absolutely not a
thing to do with "me". I do know one thing - the job isn't over
yet. So I don't know what all "The Job" entails, but I do
know that it hasn't been finished. I continue in faith that what
I 'need' to know will be made known as it is needed - I can't bring any
knowledge here that isn't needed for the purpose which I have been
sent. It's a temptation to try, and I've probably
left a little seep through, but by and large, I think I've done okay.
Sorry, I just felt I had to
touch base with you. I'm not in one of my most lucid moments at
the present time, I've been up all night (bi-polar, of course), so I'm
probably not sounding as intelligible now as I will the next time I
send you an e-mail - that is if there is a next time, of course.
I leave it to you to determine, you may know some reason we shouldn't
contact each other
& I'd be willing to accept that.
Sincerely,
Bill
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"No other man but I in the recorded History of
mankind, including JESUS CHRIST, has directly
revealed to the World the SATANIC WEAPON used to
enslave mankind -- INTELLECTUAL THOUGHT!!"
Raymond Ronald Karczewski© http://www.arkenterprises.com
Reply

On March 1, 2007, I Will Have Shaken the Dust off My Sandals and Have Moved On From the Satanic
Sty that Is Usenet .
By Raymond Ronald Karczewski©
At the beginning of this month, February 2007,
I announced that I would be leaving Usenet and Forum activities if I
saw no support for my message of Truth. See: http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialchst.htm#America
I've been at it for Eleven years, literally "Casting
Pearls before the swine." Every single article I have
written has, in an infinite number of subtle and not so subtle ways,
been slimed, distorted, attacked by the time-tested disinformation
technique of "if you can't kill the message, then kill the
messenger." Their mission has been to destroy his
reputation, Smear him with every possible, conceivable deception,
malicious lie, libel that requires a response, even though the
questions, based in utter human debasement, have ABSOLUTELY no basis in
fact whatsoever. When they cannot move their target off balance,
they focus their libelous attacks upon his family members.
All the while they brag of their immunity from
prosecution. They admit to their ties with the Government's
Intelligence Community and membership in Mind Control
cults. The government, the so-called public servants put
into office look away. HELL THEY BUILD A STONE WALL OF SILENCE so
that not a word will be uttered which will draw upon them the public's
scrutiny into the Conspiracy to destroy Free Speech on the
Internet. So that our Constitutional Republic is destroyed
thereby creating a segue into a SATANIC RULED NEW WORLD ORDER.
I had more faith in the American People eleven
years ago, than I do now.
I have given everything away free and without
strings. I have supported my site alone, based on my limited
retirement funds to share Truth with all, freely and without strings
which Ignoramuses who, because they didn't have to pay for it, have
grown to regard as WORTHLESS.
I have used the last 11 years to expose government and
religious mind control tactics used on the American People. The
American People don't seem to care.
Not a single donation has arrived to show support for the
Spiritual Antidote to Hell on Earth, NOT A PENNY!!
I have already made my decision. I will no longer
post on Usenet or Private forums as of March 1, 2007..
I will "privatize" my site into a subscription only site
with log in controls to ferret out the Satanic Disinformation Agents
who are allowed to run rampant in their destruction of Free Speech
through their IRRESPONSIBLE use of it.
If that is the world you want, that is the world you have
created for yourselves. You have done so, by your apathy, your
silence, your consent.
All content on my rather large site will be Archived for
future researchers to access the consciousness of a Living Christ
and in observing the Satanic Mechanism in place to control others in
their speech. I am, to my knowledge, the sole survivor of such
attacks they have used to destroy the reputations of other
Newsgroup/Forum Contributors.
I will bring into focus my Original Messages and Original
Sound Files so they may be listened to at the deeper level of Spiritual
Consciousness, free of the neverending Satanic Noise which contaminates
all other communication on the Internet.
The vast majority of those who read my extraordinary
expositions think that Ray Karczewski is a nut. It never crosses
their confused, Satanically conditioned minds that the spirit of Ray
Karczewski's words are different, though they are the same words used
by all others on the Internet. His words touch deeply, bypassing
the protected shields of ignorance that keep Slaves thinking they are
Free men. He has presented Truth that can destroy the Power of
Satanic Mind Control in Civilized Society. A Satanic power that
has existed since the Dawn of Civilization. Tis easy for a
Legion of confused blind believers ruled by remote authority to defend
their confusion by taking the opposite position that "there are more of
us than there are of you," that one who is free from such
Satanic Chains is a NUT.
Such is the nature of the BASSACKWARD world most of you
live in. Hell, isn't it?
Such adamant defense of Ignorance in Satanic Fellowship doesn't
change your world, does it? You and all other like-minded still
remain supporters of WAR, VIOLENCE, KILLING, DRUGS, You and all
other like-minded still grovel in Fear of their so-called public
servants whose image has ballooned into the Fearful spectre of a
TYRANNICAL MASTER. One must ask: WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG
WITH YOU PEOPLE?
Truth is Simple. I am Simple. I AM TRUTH! I
hold the key to Peace on Earth, to the dissolution of Satanic Control
which enslaves each and every one of you. It is your
complicated conditioned minds that prevent you from SEEING THAT!
Confused Ignoramuses have always made up the Legion of groveling
slaves, and they will continue to do so, as they will fight to the
death, if necessary, for their right to remain IGNORANT.
So, whether you send money or not to show support, I have made
my decision.
I'm outta here come March 1, 2007 and may God have mercy on your
souls!!
To those who have the spiritual "Eyes to See and Ears to Hear"
you'll find me at the new http://www.arkenterprises.com -- "Home of the
Living Christ".
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"No other man but I in the recorded History of
mankind, including JESUS CHRIST, has directly
revealed to the World the SATANIC WEAPON used to
enslave mankind -- INTELLECTUAL THOUGHT!!"
Raymond Ronald Karczewski© http://www.arkenterprises.com
Reply
Josephine County and the State Of Oregon Governments are KILLING my wife
By Raymond Ronald Karczewski©
Mine is a story of what befalls a Free Man targeted by
government while living in an Unfree Society. It is the
story of a 69 year old retired Police Sergeant and his 69 year old
wife, who
chose to spend their retirement years in beautiful Southern Oregon
living in Cave Junction, Josephine County Oregon.
It is the story of a man and woman of Peace and the systematic
destruction of that peace, the quality of their lives, their
reputations, health, etc. by a government hellbent on destroying the
quality of life of their citizens in order to insure their power base.
It is a story you will not soon forget as you apply the facts to
your own experiences when dealing with local and State Government here
in beautiful Southern Oregon.
I hold the STATE OF OREGON and COUNTY OF JOSEPHINE
responsible for my wife's disabling illness
I Invite all to read in detail the events which have
turned a couple's American Dream into a Nightmare by accessing http://www.arkenterprises.com/index11.html
on their computers.
The Government is Killing My
Wife
Originally posted on the
Internet February 4, 2004
She was recently released from the hospital after a
15-day stay, eight of which were in intensive care. She is
afflicted with COPD, a combination of emphysema, pneumonia, and heart
failure. Her problem began when a Forest Service Fire Supervisor
refused the fire crew leader's request to respond early to reports of a
forest fire West of Cave Junction, Oregon. Why?
The fire was too small. The supervisor wanted to wait until it
got bigger before sending a crew out. It did get bigger. It
was known as the "Biscuit" fire, the biggest forest fire ever on the
West Coast.
Her health has been downhill ever since. This
has been exacerbated by the tremendous stress she was subjected to in
dealing with the bogus criminal charges lodged against me, stemming
from my failure to dim my headlights and which escalated to "simulation
of legal process" -- "paper terrorism." The latter charges of
"terrorism" arose from my attempt to hold my government officials
accountable, see
http:/www.arkenterprises.com/dialchst.htm
My wife is on constant oxygen and is debilitated in strength.
Three times she has fallen, twice outside, unable to get up. I
heard her cries and brought her back to our home.
I am the only caregiver available to her. I do
the cooking, cleaning, shopping, house chores, and bring wood from the
wood shed, a considerable distance from the house for one who is
tethered to an oxygen machine. All of these activities are beyond
her present capacity to do safely.
On Friday, January 30th, 2004, at approximately
8:15AM, once again I was kidnapped by four armed agents from the
Josephine County Sheriff's Office. They were dressed in workman's
clothes, driving a white pickup truck with overhead racks, identified
themselves as a paving crew looking for looking for the person named
Paget, the owner of the property. When I stepped out of my house
to give them directions, I was grabbed by two of the men and told I was
under arrest. They did not ask me for my name, nor would they
show me a warrant.
Today is Monday, February 2, 2004. I sit in
jail while my wife is alone, with no assistance. Who will
pick her up if she falls again? This outrageous conduct by our
government and courts must come to an end.
I ask that Governor Kulongoski of Oregon appoint an
investigative body comprised of both government
investigators and citizens to investigate the two cases, that of 02 CR
0617 and 03 CR 0170, cases which portray the lawlessness of our court
and D.A.'s office. The government is already cleaning house by
course of Josephine County District Attorney Clay Johnson, chief
architect of the phony prosecutions, with his announcement of his
retirement. Johnson is the linchpin which binds the state and
county to a multimillion dollar commercial judgment filed, then
unlawfully removed, by the Secretary of State's office. It
is these filings which prompted the arrest for "simulation of legal
process" and "paper terrorism." It now appears to be a crime for
one to attempt to hold their public officials accountable for their
criminal behavior, or for one to engage in contracting without a
lawyer.
Although a copy of this statement is going to the
governor in hopes that he will see the wisdom of cleaning up state
agencies operating under his watch, I ask that people who are concerned
with the errant direction law enforcement and judiciary have taken,
honor state and country. Call or write the governor to motivate
him, to remind him of his oath of office to protect and defend the
Constitution.
After all, when your a caregiver is sitting in jail
on bogus charges, who will pick you up when you fall?
Raymond Ronald Karczewski©
Cell 712
Josephine County Adult Jail
Phone numbers to call and express your opinion:
Judge Gerald C. Neufeld (541) 476-2309
Sheriff Dave Daniel (541) 474-5123
OR email to: jocosheriff@co.josephine.or.us
USPS (snail mail) to: Josephine County Courthouse
500 NW 6th Street
Grants Pass, OR 97526
Governor Ted Kulongoski
Mailing Address: 900 Court St. NE, Salem 97301-4047
Telephone: 503-378-3111
Fax: 503-378-4863
Anita
Karczewski's own words.
AK: My illness first surfaced when this area was the site of the
Biscuit Fire, the biggest forest fire in the nation in 2002, three
years ago. Government, the Forest Service, rather than dousing
two small fires, chose to let the two small fires merge and become one
huge fire which quickly got out of control and ultimately burned
499,570 acres, had more than 6,775 firefighters from all over this
country, Canada, and Australia fighting it, and cost taxpayers
$145,754,149 (145.7 Million Dollars). The people living in this
valley were given evacuation notices varying from 15 minutes to 1/2
hour. In the meantime we all breathed smoke-filled air for five
months till the Fall rains finally doused the fire. I wrote
to Governor Kulongoski regarding this giantic blunder on the part of
government. (At the bottom of this post is reading material from
newspapers and the Associated Press regarding the Biscuit Fire.)
AK: My illness was exacerbated by the stress of the unlawful
arrest, incarceration and prosecution of my husband Ray in two bogus
trials and by the refusal of the courts to answer the 23 questions
regarding jurisdiction put to them, and to prove their jurisdiction in
writing, as is required of them by law. The refusal of the
appeals court to offer an opinion on either of the two (automatic)
appeals only exaggerates how the courts wiggle out of the necessity for
forthright honesty in matters of law. The bottom line is
and will always be, until the courts are willing to follow the law and
US Constitution in proving jurisdiction over living, breathing,
flesh-and-blood, sentient natural men and women when they are
challenged in court to do so, such bogus courts are unconstitutional
and carry with them no force of law. That is why Ray is home with
me and a free man, despite what the records of a private, for-profit
Corporate State and Local Courts claim. They have yet to make a
claim against my husband.
On July 18, 2002 I expressed my surprise to a respected business person
in the valley that there were (forest) fires burning so close to Cave
Junction. She said the fire department was letting two of the
fires burn rather than "call out ten men out to fight a small fire,
they preferred to call out a hundred men to fight a bigger fire."
Anita Karczewski
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To: anitak@internetcds.com
Subject: Request to fight fire was denied (Sour Biscuit Fire,California
Request to fight fire was denied (Sour Biscuit Fire, California)
The Daily Triplicate, Crescent City, California ^
16 August 2002 |
Kent Gray, Daily Triplicate staff writer
Fire officials have acknowledged a request was made to attempt to
extinguish the Biscuit Fire when it was only 100 acres, but that
request was turned down.
"They offered to make one run on the fire to do bucket work for one
fuel cycle," said Paul Galloway, information officer for the Biscuit
Fire said. "But management didn't believe that would be helpful. There
were no ground crews to take advantage of it and it would have had
minimal effect."
Del Norte County Supervisor Chuck Blackburn said yesterday the
helicopter crew believed it could have made an impact.
"The helicopter offered to try and make an impact and they were told
no," said Blackburn. "... I can't say for sure. Maybe it couldn't
have been put out. But I've been talking to people who should know, and
the people I have talked to said it could have, and should have, been
put out."
Blackburn, who said he will not reveal the names of those who have
confided in him, said he has been analyzing the fire response for two
weeks and has come to the conclusion more could have been done.
"I think there was a problem between the regions and getting permission
to go in and put the fire out," he said. "I'm not after people's names
or pointing fingers. I just want to make sure that regions don't become
a problem, the stateline doesn't become a problem, so years down the
road when this reoccurs we don't have a problem."
The incident with the California Department of Forestry helicopter
occurred on July 14, one day after the Sour Biscuit Fire was ignited by
a lightning strike in the Siskiyou National Forest. Galloway said the
fire, centered in a remote and roadless section of forestland, was
reportedly 100 acres in size at that time.
The Biscuit Fire was one of "hundreds" that sparked throughout Oregon
around the same time, Galloway said. Because of this, resources were
stretched thin on July 13 and no crews were assigned to the Sour
Biscuit blaze until July 14, and those crews basically attempted to
make roads into the area.
The first report of the Biscuit blaze was received at 3:15 p.m. from a
fixed-wing reconnaissance flight in the area. At 3:50 p.m., another
blaze was spotted at Carter Creek.
"There was confusion whether or not there were two fires at first,"
said Galloway. "Folks from the Six Rivers National Forest also saw
smoke in the area and reported it. It was determined later there was
only one fire (in the Biscuit area)."
Rick Addy, the federal manager for the Six River National Forest, said
interstate fire response is common, with some exceptions.
"The closest forces will respond to a fire, like with a lightning
strike, and after the initial attack they take care of theirs and we
take care of ours," Addy said. "Except for aircraft. They have to be
coordinated because it's not safe to mix aircraft. There's a real
safety issue involved."
Galloway said there was no aircraft assigned to the Biscuit blaze on
July 14 when the helicopter aid was declined.
Blackburn said an offer from ground crews, with the Gasquet Ranger
District in the Six Rivers National Forest, to attack the blaze was
also declined in Oregon's Region Six. Galloway said he could find no
official mention of this offer.
Galloway said his reports mention no managers' names or offices where
the decisions originated from.
Further complications arose with the Sour Biscuit Fire between July 27
and Aug. 1, after the fire entered into California. Blackburn said
helicopters were idled in Gasquet while a change of command was being
prepared and aircraft communication frequencies were in limbo.
"Nothing was happening here because everything was coming out of
Oregon," Blackburn said. He said at 10 a.m. on Aug. 1, he watched
opportunities to fight the blaze being squandered because crews were
told to wait until 6 p.m.
"They were flying into the Shelley Creek Fire with water and Linda
Szczepanik (incident commander of Shelley Creek) was trying to get
frequencies released for the Biscuit Fire. I stood there and watched,
but she couldn't get the frequencies released. So there's another eight
hours lost for Sour Biscuit."
Galloway said it will be at least another week before he can compile a
chronology for communications and decisions from fire managers for late
July and early August.
Meanwhile, Blackburn said local counties must be proactive if they want
to avert similar problems in the future. Blackburn said a meeting is
being coordinated for late September between Del Norte County and the
Oregon counties of Curry and Josephine to reach agreements with Forest
Service Regions Five and Six, the California Division of Forestry, the
Oregon Division of Forestry along with local fire officials and
legislators.
"We have a good opportunity here to resolve any future problems," said
Blackburn. "I'm not calling this meeting to say 'you screwed up' or 'he
screwed up.' I'm saying 'What can we do to see that this never happens
again?'"
The Sour Biscuit Fire, which eventually burned more than 48,000 acres
in Oregon and California, later merged with the larger Florence Fire in
Oregon. The combined fire was renamed the Biscuit Fire and is currently
responsible for nearly 400,000 acres of scorched forestland.
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MY NOTE: As of this date the Buiscuit Fire web site states that
499,570 acres have burned. 554 personnel are still working on the
fire. 68 injuries have been sustained so far. COST TO
DATE: $145,754,149/145.7 million dollars.
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Taken from "Local News Comes First" October 13, 2002
http://www.localnewscomesfirst.com/index.asp?go=story&storyid=3371
Biscuit Fire Fight Most Expensive Ever
Associated Press
Southern Oregon -- Southwest Oregon's Biscuit Fire has been contained
for more than a month, but it's not out yet. And the cost of
fighting it continues to grow.
The tab is already more than $150 million, making it the most expensive
fire in U.S. history.
The fire burned more than a half-million acres. It began July 13 with
a lightning strike. Fire officials expect it to burn into
November, when rainfall should extinguish what's left of it.