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=MPD= wrote:
Raymond Karczewski (arkent3@earthlink.net) wrote:
rk: My name, Raymond Ronald Karczewski backs up my words on every article that I write.
rk: The headlines civilized man must face via his SATANIC image pretty much say it all. Wars, famine, Political/Religious Enslavement, debasement of currency/monetary systems, destruction of the family unit, creating a world not of God's Children but of "Human Resources", an educational system designed to dumb down, not educate, not elevate consciousness, exploitation of masses of diploma'ed IGNORAMUSES via religious and politically-correct, conditioned mindsets, eternal violence/suffering/conflict of each and everyone fighting the demons set by mindcontrollers into their Intellectual dualistic system of thought which rules their consciousness, which results in the greatest drugged down population the world has ever known, broken men, women and children who fill beds as statistics in the ever growing industries of Mental Hospitals and Prisons, and one man who would dare to stand alone, balanced, and unshakable mirroring it is deemed by such IGNORAMUSES AS MENTALLY ILL!!?
rk: INDEED, HOW BASSACKWARD IS OUR HUMAN RACE?
rk: In past newsgroup/forum offerings, MPD="Multiple Personality Disorder", "Manchurian Candidate" a "Hapless Cult Victim" describes the consciousness of Government/media mind controller/disinformation agent ed wilkinson to a tee.
rk: wilkinson covers these newsgroups/forums under a host of phony handles and names. He now emerges in this particular forum under the handle of "MPD." This particular handle joined this forum less than 24 hours ago (wilkinson has posted under other anonymous handles on this same forum). mpd has posted 6 articles, two of which pertain to me.
rk: MPD's technique is to post under a multitude of phony names. He is a just another one of many anonymous government/media cowards who refuse to identify themselves and back up their words with integrity. Yet mpd readily offers up opinions with his "hit the ground running" so-called foreknowledge of Raymond Ronald Karczewski©.
rk: MPD intimates in his articles a background in the Mental Health Field, yet does not indicate from which spectrum his expertise arises -- counselor or patient???
rk: ed wilkinson's mother died a bitter, turned-away cult insider in service to West Coast mind control/media owner/hypnosis expert/guru ROY MASTERS. wilkinson's father -- a suicide. Some would call that a PROFILE worthy of needed mental health services. The demanded investigation ( http://www.petitiononline.com/RayNita1/petition.html ) into this government/media mind control/disinformation war waged against the computer using American public would establish the facts and end this SATANIC CONSPIRACY waged against the American People.
rk: Is there anyone out there who would can spot the obvious?
rk: Anybody on "Crack the Matrix Forum" http://www.elmundovc.com/phpbb/ taking any bets that the picture portraying =MPD= as a woman is a PHONEY?
Raymond Ronald Karczewski© -- A Living Christ
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Mon Jan 03, 2005 7:49 am
rk: Quote:
I am not a Teacher, Mind Controller, or Leader.
mpd: Then a normal person would go about their life and activities and not expend the energy and effort that you do with this "message". Normal, rational people do not spend time and money in an endeavor to which they have no interest or stake in, and you do expend a great deal of time and effort into your "activities".
mpd: The question is a good one..... why?
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=MPD=
Joined: 02 Jan 2005
Posts: 6
Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 7:25 am Post subject:
mpd: Ray is mentally ill LW, you will never get an answer from him, many many have tried before you. It is sad to watch a mind decay and become locked in a delusion. You cannot argue or win as he is not on the same plane of reasoning as you and I. If you have ever worked with the mentally handicapped, you would see his “condition” is not unique. I once knew a nice lady about 45, who was as unwavering as Ray in her locked psychological loop, only she was convinced and could explain for hours how someone had stolen her car, it consumed her ever waking moment. This delusion never let up for 5 yrs I was at that facility. After daily exposure to her talking most everyone would, more often than you would guess, say “maybe someone did steal her car, should we check?” The human mind is a fragile thing and it is a terrible thing to see it when it is damaged. Ray isn’t crazy or nuts, he has a real and treatable condition his children should have taken care of by now.
Its very sad.
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Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 8:05 am Post subject:
mpd: No, to force medication on a non-violent person who is "functional" is not a right anyone has in society. He may be annoying, but that’s not a crime nor should it be.
mpd: His children should care for their father. At his age and the state of his delusion, in time he will become very hard to take care of and stabilize. His condition should be treated and his mental state stabilized, but as I said, if he is not violent, and wants to live in a cave, this is his right. His children have a responsibility to investigate if their father has a progressive disorder that could become worse with time. Unfortunately to preserve everyone’s rights, we have to wait till Ray can no longer take being ignored by the sheriff or his neighbors and snaps on them before he can be properly cared for "via force" as you really wish me to say.
mpd: That’s the price we will all pay for freedom.... injured or dead innocents by rays hand before we can, or should force our treatments on him.
mpd: No injury no crime, right?
Raymond Karczewski (arkent3@earthlink.net)wrote:
rk: NOTE: "Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they tranple them under their feet, and turn agan and rend you." (Matt 7 : 6)
2ndmouse
Truth Seeker and Devil's Advocate
Tue Jan 04, 2005 1:46 pm
2m: > I second the opinion he is mentally ill.
2m: > and if you look on the net far and wide, he doesnt have a good name to begin with.
rk: See if you can find a legitimate person willing to identify themselves in the whole of your search "far and wide."
2m: > I'm trying really hard to give his "view" an even chance but as far as I can piece together its some offshoot of eastern mystisism with a christ flavoring stirred in.
2m: > I havent examined ray just examined his words with his name on them, and the more I find the harder it is to keep trying to give his view any credibnility.
rk: By what standards do you apply such judgment? Is it via the fact that YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND that which you are judging?
2m: > Ive wasted a great deal of time and thinking and ray hasnt given me any streight answers. The last handfull of sincere questions I asked this week he completely ignored (wait he did cross post them abotu 50 times to show otheres elsewhere how he is persicuted).
rk: So you admit that I did not ignore you. Intelligence is to water as IGNORANCE IS to horses. One can lead a horse to water but you can't make em drink.
2m: > Personally, when I am asking in a totaly curious and honest tone it really fucks me off when the poster takes a few lines of my questions and run off to the 10000 other groups and uses my questions to prop up his persicution sign.\
rk: Why, should sharing your words with the world trouble you ---UNLESS????!!!
rk: sorry, I don't do private conversations. If there's a message there for one, there's a message there for the world.
2m: > I think he is mentaly ill also.
rk: You don't have the capacity to make such a statement of one you admittedly do not understand. You can only display to the world your own spirit of limitation and ignorance.
2m: > I take it from your post you are a ray-ette then pepper? If you understand what he is trying to say, can YOU reform his philosophy in some understandable form for us?
rk: Again, how can you judge that which admittedly you do not understand?
rk: Do you not see IGNORANCE IN OPERATION?
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=MPD= Posted:
Tue Jan 04, 2005 2:28 pm
mpd: > No I am not a medical doctor, the issue of Ray’s mental illness is my own opinion.
rk: Opinion here, opinion there, no evidence to back up such opinions, share them with ignoramuses who also have no ability to discriminate and pretty soon you've got the SATANIC "BIG LIE" being sold to an ignorant, gullible, non-questioning public. How Disinformational of you!!!
mpd: > Is that way of saying it better? Only my opinion, not a fact. Pepper if you are implying I am guilty of some form of legal slander, you need to read Ray’s posts here and elsewhere better, if anyone is guilty of slander and even harassment, its ray.
rk: You are the one offering the opinion. Why don't you present the evidence in toto, of such mental illness and not just generalize or cut and paste statements out of context (or even forged) to support an 8-year-long Government/Media/Intelligence Community disinformation agenda?
mpd: > I posted a polite and no aggressive post here just to speak my mind on the subject or all things Ray.
mpd: > I don’t intend directly addressing Ray in this forum; he is not why I came.
rk: So you slink in the shadows behind the mask of anonymity and make libelous statements hoping to cover your butt with the rationalization of "OPINION?"
rk: Seems to be. Prior to Jan 3, 2005 you were not even a poster on this forum. On that day, you begin posting as an expert on Raymond Ronald Karczewski©'s mental health. Curious, is it not?
mpd: > I noticed ray here, and simply posted my opinion as maybe some of you don’t know his history. If you all can handle him good for you, I wouldn’t feed him, If I were you.
rk: But you're merely a shadowy, anonymous coward, with nothing of your own to offer, asking others to trust you. Without people like 2nd mouse, where would you SATANIC DISINFORMATION YAHOOS BE?
rk: Why don't you identify yourself and stand behind your "opinion?"
mpd: > 2ndmouse don’t get upset over it, you are one of many whom he draws in then uses their words as examples on more forums than you can imagine, you found only a few.
rk: They are his words though, are they not? I have not changed them one iota. Why is he ashamed of what he has written when he finally gets a good look at them? Aren't Mirrors of Truth Wonderful?
mpd: >Whatever you do, do not email him, your box will be full in no time. Pepper, if you know him so well, honor mouse’s request and explain the whole “concept” to him.
rk: Why don't you explain the whole concept to 2nd mouse yourself. You're just a government/media/disinformation pot stirrer, are you not?
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Pepper
Constitutional Warrior
Tue Jan 04, 2005 3:02 pm
p: > So, mouse, now you include me in a mini name calling because of what I said???? A Ray peppet or something like that? I am surprised. Well, since you obviously didn't read my post very well, let me reiterate the important part of it for you to restate correctly what I said and then I would be happy to hear your opinion on it.
p: > "I am curious, one of the things we all own that shouldn't be taken away from us is our good name. Its a form of theft. While you may not agree with Ray or you dislike his style or you believe he is crazy, then exercise your free, God given right to pass over his threads and his posting. "
rk: That is good advice. However, the flawed reactions of Satanic minions being what they are, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE for such simple advice to be followed. The pain of exposure by the Mirror of Truth is the Fire of HEll experienced by ignoramuses.
p: > I haven't said a word about his philosophy or anything else, I am speaking about ANYONE here who would be called names and determined to be mentally ill by those who are not qualified to make such a judgement. That and that only was my point. I don't find Ray any more offensive than I find you offensive and you have rabbited on about many subjects at length that were controversial. So, give me a friggen break.
p: > Now if you have something to say about what I really talked about then I would love to hear it. P
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2ndmouse
Truth Seeker and Devil's Advocate
Tue Jan 04, 2005 4:15 pm
Quote:
A Ray peppet or something like that?
2m: > read it again pepper... I typed "ray-ette". it wasnt name calling mini or otherwise. From your defense, I assumed you are in his cheering section thats all. If you took it as an attack, my appologies.
2m: > now to address your quote of your own words, listen up; I ask, really really nice to begin with for him to explain his views to me and I got a facefull of dirt.
rk: It has been said, cast not ye pearls before the swine for they will turn and rend you in defense of their ignorance. 2nd mouse you are a poster boy for ignorance of biblical proportions.
2m: > then I got pissy and ignored him, and then as I do get often I got curious at reading into it more and AGAIN asked nice. I got my postings cut up in half sentances to show people on other forums how he is persicuted. I dont know about YOU, but cutting up and cross posting a tiny bit of a conversation in fringe loon groups for NO reason other than to hold up a sign and say "look! another one hates me! look" and this is ALL he is doing with my post, or anyones is either mental illness or trolling. GOOD NAME? oh puh lese you have to be joking.
rk: Hell 2nd mouse, even you saw the real spirit of the message of your words as others see them, otherwise you would not be complaining about others seeing it. Do you expect that others would ignore them as if you did not say them?
2m: > The only reason I belive that IS his real name is because I emailed the shirrif in question and ask if this person lived there and was real or some fiction. (I was assured, he is indeed a live breathing pain in there ass).
rk: YOU BET, even the JOSEPHINE COUNTY OREGON DISTRICT ATTORNEY CLAY E. JOHNSON told an investigative reporter that I, Raymond Ronald Karczewski was A PAIN IN THE ASS!!
rk: I am out of Jail, no charges hanging over my head, after they originally went after me for 35 years as a PAPER TERRORIST. THEY THREW ME OUT OF THEIR JAIL AFTER I STOOD UP TO THEM, AND AM NOW CONSIDERED A "PAIN IN THE ASS" by District attorney and Sheriff alike. I'll take that as a victory over the GATES OF HELL WHICH CERTAINLY HAVE NOT PREVAILED! What else is there for a simple man of Truth, a CHRIST?
rk: Truth is always considered A "PAIN IN THE ASS" TO SATANIC ILLUSION.
rk: 2nd mouse, Like all IGNORAMUSES, you search blindly for TRUTH while it is there for you to see, right under you nose. Yet you want it explained. Do you understand, 2nd mouse, you would not see the TRUTH if is snuck up behind and bit you in your thinking apparatus?
2m: > When I put out my hand for you to shake it and you piss on my hand.... dont expect me to be nice. Stupid me I put out my hand TWICE, ray is right I am STUPID!! I am a moron! I let him piss on me twice!
rk: Hell, that's all Ive been saying all along. You're an IGNORAMUS. The moisture in your hands comes from you, not me! Hell, isn't it?
2m: > if it was so unbelievably funny I would be outraged! But all I can do is laugh at myself..... I must be getting old and slow.
rk: My point exactly!!
2m: > I dunno what you mean about MPD's name calling or slander thefirst post up there was more bleeding misplaced pity than anything. saying someone is mentally ill isnt an insult its an observation.
"charlie manson is mentally ill"
did I just slur charlies good name?
rk: No, you just demonstrate to the world just how easily your world view is formed by information fed you by outside media authorities. What do you actually know of "charlie manson" of your own first hand understanding? The fact is, I have refused to be another outside authority which would continue your conditioned ignorance, have I not? And you don't like it one bit, do you?
2m: > I mistook you ad a ray-ette or one of his followers, as you said "i know him better than those here slandering him" So I assumed you were pretty cozy with him.
rk: I mirror all who communicate with me. Some don't fare as well as others. I assure you pepper has not experienced what you have experienced with me.
2m: > if all you have done is read his words on the net, you didnt say that. ive spent many pots of coffee and hours reading thru his posting from alt.ufo to here.
rk: I HAVE NEVER POSTED TO alt.ufo, and to a large number of other newsgroups/forums where forgeries appear under my name. Yet you lack the intelligent discrimination to distinguish the original posts of a Christ from the fakes by SATANIC disinformation yahoos. How unaware is that?
2m: > Be happy you made quite a few of those repost if you are the "pepper" he was refering to. BTW, as I understand you to are this ED government mole too.
2m: > I read something the other night that dropped me off the chair. It had to do with stealth trucks stealing the gravel out of his driveway, funny stuff. Of course he denies ever posting that and to be fair i havent found the original post to see it.
rk: That's ONE OF THEM THAR FORGERIES I AM SPEAKING OF.
See what I mean about ignorance? The fact that any child can read is no guarantee that they COMPREHEND what they read.
2m: We need to have an ED meeting and get one fabricated ASAP.
2m: No hard feelings pepper, my mistake.
(to funny...)
rk: Such a glib and insincere apology. You expect to get off the hook placed in a loud mouthed IGNORAMUS by these government/media disinformation agents?
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=MPD=
Truth Seeker
Joined: 02 Jan 2005
Posts: 13
Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 2:53 pm Post subject:
Mouse;
You are on the right track. Check the sites below, and do further searches on Nonduality. The idea is neither new nor unique, but as you will discover a lot of new age religion cults have take ancient philosophies and packaged them for the new age movements. Some remove god from the equation, others make Christ the core of it, but when you peel off the confusing language and do some comparative research you will find its just another “feel good” new age “religion”. Anyone I have met who is deep into this, has all but lost their mind and a grasp on reality, to the point holding a normal daily conversation is impossible as this “religion” consumes them totally. You only need to examine some of the more popular cults of the past 20 years to understand what I mean. If you want more links to study PM me, I don’t care to feed Rays addiction in open forum.
http://nonduality.com/index.html
http://www.tantra.co.nz/meditation/
"DW Suiter" <dwsuiter@toast.net>
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 05:15:44 -0600
rk: Same Song, Different Verse. D.W. Suiter and I have never met personally, yet I have no question that he is indeed a Son Of God.
rk: Now if, only the rest of the world woke up. . . ???
Raymond Ronald Karczewski© -- A Living Christ
dws: > "Satan" is translated as "The false accuser of the brethren of Christ." Which also equates to liar.
dws: > The "brethren of Christ" are all who are Christ and brothers with Jesus of Nazareth. The Sons of God.
dws: > "Satan" is any person falsely accusing the Sons of God.
Those in fellowship with Satan are the "brethren of Satan."
They are the sons of the devil.
dws: > Jesus of Nazareth told the religionists who were confronting and falsely accusing him, their father was the devil, even though they said "Abraham" was their father.
dws: > The same principle applies in this day and hour. The religionists who falsely call God father, are sons of the devil; the brethren of Satan.
dws: > As in the days of Jesus of Nazareth, the religionists and the dullards, continue to falsely accuse the Sons of God. Simply because they are not of God and cannot understand the word of the Sons of God when they speak of the matters of God.
dws: > The same inane knee jerk responses are spewed out of their mouths when a Son of God presents a Word from God explaining the matters of God. The brethren of Satan and the dullards launch an attack on the speaker because they cannot intelligently respond to the Word a Son of God has given.
dws: > It is a pattern easily seen in this newsgroup. The dullards and brethren of Satan lack not only knowledge and understanding but the intelligence necessary to respond in an intelligent manner.
dws: > They are like dogs, nipping and gnashing their teeth. Animals, following the lower principles of the animal world; the beasts of the beast genus.
dws: > There are very few from this beast world who want to rise above their station in life, the life they choose. Consequently, the beasts procreate at a much faster rate than the Sons of God. Simply because the beasts prefer the life of the beast instead of the life God gives.
dws: > The beasts multiply rapidly, are creating the minds of their young to be as they are. They also are allowed to influence and be the teachers of the young of others, transforming the young of others to be beasts as they are. They are allowed to sow their seed in the children of all people. Their seed
comes in their word, the word that dominates the politics, the media, the entertainment world, the entire world. This word rules and controls social orders including religions.
dws: > It is what scripture calls "Wormwood." It is the "waters below." It is the enemy coming in as a flood for this word has flooded the social order and the minds of mankind.
dws: > This word structures and creates the minds of the young. The young learn the principles and ways of the beast. They are taught to reject and scoff at the Word of God coming from the Sons of God as the Seed of God.
dws: > But it will not remain this way. There are too many people who are placed in pain and sorrow by the beasts. Too many who are trodden down, who are hungry with no food, ill with no help, homeless with only the street to dwell in and sleep in. There are too many victims of the lawless ones, the perpetrators of "white collar crime."
dws: > These are beginning to seek a solution, an answer, and as the cause of the problem becomes apparent, they shall look for an escape from the beast world, which is the hell created by the sons of the devil.
dws: > They shall hear the Sons of God speak about the life God gives, a life of peace, love and joy, and by the strong desire for this life, shall come to God to be transformed out of the beast, the son of perdition, into the Son of God.
dws: > These shall have a prepared place for the Seed sown by the Sons of God. A place where the Seed takes root and grows, and eventually takes control of the mind.
dws: > And it shall be as has been foretold many times, there shall be a rising again of the Sons of God as was two thousand years ago. The breach shall be repaired and the way shall be restored in the minds of all desiring life from God. And the end times shall be.
dws: > A Day of God, which is a time, an advent, not twenty four hours, always begins in the darkness of the night. At mid-night. The Day God has declared, which is Day-time, a time of Light, comes after the great Light comes into the minds of mankind to remove the darkness, the darkened counsel of mankind. The Day does not come unannounced. The bright morning stars rising in the East, signal the coming of the great Light of Day. East, refers to the ancient ones of God. It is the place, East of Eden. This is where the Sons of God rise.
dws: > The stars give light, for they are the light bearers. These are the Sons of God, of the same Seed Abraham was of, the Seed from God. These are the heirs of the promise of God, having received the fulfilling of the promise of God to write and engrave the Word from God in them. These are the Living Stones in which God has written the Living Word.
dws: > For those able to see, these shed light on the truth of the matters of God and life, the reality. For those not able to see by the eyes of understanding, it shall remain dark to them, as they remain in the darkness of their minds. There shall be no enlightenment in them.
dws: > The Sons of God shall be known by the brightness of their coming, the brightness of the Light they give as they enlighten others who are able to see and understand what they say.
dws: > These are the true Angels, the true ministers and messengers of God. They are the Seventh Angel, those of the Seventh age, the age of maturity and completeness.
dws: > These shall teach the people how to receive the Spirit God is pouring out on all mankind. For those able to see, the Day shall be seven times brighter and for those who remain blind, the darkness shall remain seven times darker in this Day. For the brightness of the coming of the Son of God is the pure truth the Son gives in his word. He is able to shed Light on the matters of God so others may see and understand. But the blind cannot see what is illuminated by the Light. These continue to stumble along their way never seeing what lies ahead, nor who it is they are following.
dws: > The great whore, religion, shall be burned by the word and tongue of the Sons of God whose word is as fire, for their tongue or word they speak, is the flaming sword all must pass through in order to return to God. The tongue, or word, is used as a sword, to cut through to the heart of the matter. By this sword, the evil ones shall be slain, slain in the spirit. By
this sword, the whore shall burn and all who reveled in the riches they have compiled for their selves shall burn with her.
dws: > These Sons are the Angels of death, coming to slay the evil ones. Only those who eat the body of the lamb of God, the body of the Son of God, shall be passed over by the word that slays. They shall not be harmed for they are "sealed" by the Word from God.
dws: > But all others, shall be in the pit that now is ready to burn.
dws: > Some have already kindled a fire in different places. But the heat of the great Light that burns the dead is yet to come. It has not yet been unleashed.
dws: > And when he comes in all his brightness, who will be able to stand in his presence? Who will be able to relate with him in this brightness without dying? For those not of God shall burn. All who are of God shall pass through the sword of fire unharmed for the sword is designed to slay the evil ones in spirit, not the righteous ones.
dws: > When you see the evil ones, the religionists, the abominable ones, standing in the place God alone is to be honored in, look up; look up to the higher ways of God, for your redemption is near. For the abominable ones, the religionists, have seated their selves in the seat of honor as Teacher and
Creator of the mind and spirit of mankind, the seat only God is to be honored in. The abominable ones teach other to honor them, not God, to hear them, not God. Even the most abominable ones demand to be called "father." Indeed they are fathers for they father the sons of perdition. But God alone is Father to the Sons of God, the righteous ones. The Sons of God proclaim God as Father, as Teacher of truth, as Creator of the mind and spirit they possess.
dws: > It is the word from the Sons of God that divide the sheep from the goats, the righteous ones from the evil ones. And to the many who have said "Lord, Lord," the Son shall say, "Depart from me, I never knew you." To those who truly love God the Son shall say; "Come and take part with the others in the inheritance from God, the life given by God."
dws: > To those who are able to hear, hear what this word is saying. The enemy of God has come in as a flood, occupying the minds of mankind. The standard proclaimed by mankind is the lover of money, the self centered one with no love nor compassion for fellow man. This standard, is the image of man all are taught to honor and adore. It is the standard of success and excellence to the fallen ones. It is the image of Solomon.
dws: > But God shall raise up a new standard, the image of the Son of God as the one who is successful, the one to be honored and placed on the front page of Time magazine as the "Man of the year."
dws: > For the image of Solomon and the image of Jesus of Nazareth are images of two sons of David. The evil son and the righteous son. These two represent two different sons mankind may choose to be. The son of the devil, or the Son of God. If you love money and the ways Solomon chose, you shall be the son of evil, the son of the devil, the son of perdition, and this life you shall live. But if you love Jesus of Nazareth and all he stood for, then you shall become the Son of God and this life you shall possess.
dws: > Be forewarned and be ready. A thief in the night comes in the darkness when man is sleeping. So also the Son of God. He comes at a time of darkness when many are asleep in the spirit. "Watch ye therefore, for at a time when you say "not" he is here." For the world of mankind is in darkness and the world shall laugh and scoff at the idea of a real Son of God being present. But as the waters of the enemy of God came in as a flood, so also God shall bring another flood; the Word of God shall flood the world of mankind. For this water is the water from above, which baptizes those truly seeking God, and
by this water and this spirit from God, these are born again as the Sons of
God.
dws: > It is this word from the Sons of God that gather the sheep of God for these sheep hear the good shepherd and know his voice.
dws: > Come. Come out from among them and be separated unto God.
DW Suiter
Son of God
foolfortools wrote:
Raymond Karczewski (arkent3@earthlink.net)wrote:
Wed Jan 05, 2005 5:47 pm Post subject:
fft: > I'm still trying to figure out how Christ was crucified, died and was buried, on the third day he rose from the dead and sits on the right hand of God the Father.
rk: Immersed in SATANIC mythical phantasy, aren't you? Do not consider that state of dithered consciousness to be unusual, for ALL who live life filtered through their own Satanic conditioned Intellect are responsible for the confusion, conflict, opposition, and suffering on earth.
rk: The problem becomes fatal when ALL who do so can look at their own contribution to the mess they have made of the world they live in and then BLAME THE OTHER GUY!!
fft: > And now he's here on Earth posing as Ray???
rk: That's your particular phantasy. How does it serve you?
fft: >I thought there was only One Christ But according to Ray, everyone can be a Christ? I'm still trying to find that one in my KJV.
rk: Why have you placed your trust in a book written by dead human beings, yet arbitrarily deny the words spoken and written by a living being? Do you not see the simplicity of preference in operation? A dead book informs. One cannot argue with it. A living Being threatens your self-image, he pushes your buttons, he exposes your self-deceptions, he raises the Hell hidden behind your mask of civility.
rk: Do you not see, are you blind to the fact that in both cases you pridefully announce to the world your own fragmented (incomplete), limited, conditioned consciousness which is molded and manipulated by outside SATANIC authority forces which have caused you to function in a manner less than holistic (holistic-whole-complete-indivisible-one-TRUE)?
rk: Are you blind to the fact that these outside authority forces have caused you to be dependent and enslaved to the dictates of THOSE WHO CLAIM TO KNOW, a condition of consciousness which you claim you are incapable of?
rk: Do you not bleat of incompetency like your brother blind sheeple who also allow those who claim to know to rule over you?
rk: Isn't that a definition of today's NORMAL SOCIETY? Hasn't that been the definition of all SATANIC (THOUGHT-BASED/OPPOSITION RULED) civilized Societies on this Earth since the Dawn of Civilization? Look at the pages of history. Look at the Headlines of today. Hell, isn't it?
fft: > Perhaps Ray has the "earlier" version that none of the rest of us has.
rk: What I have, I have shared freely with ALL, on and off the Internet. The simple Truth is there for anyone who has the eyes to see and ears to hear. I have repeatedly given to the readers of these newsgroups/forums the key to Spiritual Liberation, with no strings attached. If you don't, can't, or won't recognize it, you simply aren't worthy of Spiritual Liberation. If that sounds harsh, you are now being introduced to the undeniable NATURE OF TRUTH!
fft: > To me, Ray sounds like one of those "Hellfire and Brimstone" preachers who say that everyone's going to Hell except them.
rk: On the contrary, EVERYBODY WHO LIVES IN THEIR CONDITIONED INTELLECT is already living in Hell and has NEVER KNOWN anything else but Hell!!
fft: > Everyone sins everyday including Ray anyone who says they don't sin is a Liar and the Truth isn't in them no matter what kind of "mirror" they're looking in.
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Mike G.
rk: Sin is contradiction, self-opposition. You are the source of your own Sin. You and the hundreds of anonymous cowards who lack the integrity to back your/their words with their true idenity will play Hell attempting to find "self-opposition" in the words and actions of this living, breathing, flesh-and-blood, sentient, natural Son of God.
rk: For the last eight years I have thrown out an Open-challenge to all to find a single CONTRADICTION IN ESSENCE in all of my writing on the Internet. Aside from forgeries and manufactured contradictions in essence made up by detractors who have attached my name to their deceptions, they have not found a single, legitimate CONTRADICTION IN ESSENCE in all of my writing.
rk: If that's not direct evidence of the TRUTH that I communicate, what is?
rk: It is that lack of opposition readily discerned by all in the words of this Son of God, this Christ, this simple man of Truth, which drives Satanic minions up the walls by exposing their habitual hypocrisy.
rk: What the faceless, nameless, anonymous, cowardly, pack-running, cheap shot hypocrites, who stalk my writings wherever they appear on the Internet, don't understand about themselves is their addiction to launching the most vicious, horrendous, defamatory, libelous, unfounded and baseless attacks against me and my family, and/or against any and all other messengers of Truth find through their failed efforts that they are but a hive of frantic, Satanic Minions who wouldn't make a pimple on a simple man of Truth's posterior.
Raymond Ronald Karczewski© -- A Living Christ
WARCHILD10 wrote:
Raymond Karczewski (arkent3@earthlink.net) wrote:
Wed Jan 05, 2005 8:15 pm
w: > You guys do know that arguing with old Ray is absolutely pointless.
rk: That is a True Statement. I have long ago understood the wisdom of "Resist Not Evil". I do not, will not argue with another for such is the way of SATANIC opposition eternally engaged in by prideful IGNORAMUSES.
rk: If another has not the integrity to stand up like a man, and with his/her true identity to back up his words, they are not worthy of dialogue/communication with one such as myself. Hint: the Title of this article says it all!!
rk: Look at the level of spirit of all who attack that which they do not understand. How wise is it for one to pander to such ignorance?
w: > because he believes all thought is satanic sin that though was the first sin. and since we cant help but think about what he is saying we are just sinning up a storm trying to disprove him.
rk: Precisely!! As for my reciprocal use of the flawed medium of thought in the performance of technical means of communication, how else does one reach down to such depth of ignorance shared by all SATANIC CONDITIONED THOUGHT-BOUND but to follow the advice of "WHEN IN ROME, DO AS THE ROMANS DO."
w: > Nice little paradox old ray is using there any thing you think up to say is wrong just because. Well you guessed it you had to think it up.
rk: You see, not one in a million is capable of understanding the SATANIC peril of thought. Have you not heard the one about "Oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive?"
w: > I also noticed that he tends to quote the bible only when it fits his needs and starts referring to it as a book written by dead men and is only so much satanic conditioned thought drivel.
rk: I quote the Bible to reach mechanical, belief ridden folk because that is all they know. You can see what happens when I expose the not-so-hidden conflict in such mechanical, belief-ridden intellects.
w: > Another thing that he will do is pick some thing you typed and then insult you on this point subtly shifting the flow of the conversation to put you on the defensive.
rk: If it is there, it is there. I do not make anything up, I merely mirror the Truth of what is manifest in the moment. The shock of it comes for hypocrites because the world of civilized man is composed of SATANIC worshippers of the THOUGHT of Truth, and thus miss the mark of ACTUAL, HOLISTIC TRUTH ITSELF -- AND THEY HAVEN'T A CLUE AS TO WHAT IS HAPPENING TO THEM.
w: > Nice trick by the way. ray has quite the talent at steering the conversation any way he wishes but well he is not the best false prophet I have had the displeasure of reading behind.
rk: All who live by comparison are IGNORAMUSES bent on argument.
w: > When I first saw Ray On this board I though hum some one to really debate with.
rk: Look to your first reaction and you will see that your own insecurity drove you in your desire to debate with others.
w: > but soon found that he has no original thoughts but mostly quotes others some in context and some out of context. Using there thoughts and words to his own ends.
rk: I assure you, that neither you, nor anyone else on this board or others, IS AWARE of where I am coming from. Out of such confusion comes the rest of the Satanic Nonsense observable on these groups/forums from belief-bound ignoramuses who can't help but expose themselves to the world.
rk: People who say they know where I am coming from are deluded, or psychological, projecting manipulative liars.
w: > I was sort of interested in the person behind the persona but it seams that we are not going to ever be able to hold a real conversation with a real person.
rk: The entity you have the opportunity to hold a real conversation is the closest you shall ever come to TRUTH as long as you remain trapped in such judgmental thought.
w: > you know some thing I think at some point Ray actually got a glimpse of how things really are but just was not ready for the truth but was so fascinated by what he saw that he has bin chasing that point in time again trying to recapture the feeling.
rk: If you only understood what operates in the statement above -- IF ONLY!!!
w: > And if you cant embrace the moment and then let it go then you will create you own personal hell trying to hold on to that fleeting moment. that is not the point man.
rk: "That is not the Point?" Is that your statement? Are you sure about that?
w: > There is no point in trying to convince some one that dose not want to open there mind to the real world but instead tries to see it threw closed eyes. And believes he knows the truth.
rk: Then why does the Satanic world of civilized man habitually live in such a way antithetical to Truth?
w: > No Ray is not insane He just believes he is right and we are wrong.
rk: Right and wrong has nothing to do with it, for such is a superficial determination of SATANIC dualistic consciousness.
rk: Rise above such superficial reactions and tell us what you see!
w: with the same conviction that most of us believe that we are right and the rag heads are the servants of the devil.
w: > Have fun with that as I know you will.
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w: > A fool proof plan fails to take in to account the ingenuity of fools.
rk: In the Spiritual Journey which begins in knowledge and ends in understanding, let this Christ be the first to tell you that YOU CAN'T GET THERE FROM HERE.
rk: If you want more, read my spiritual articles on http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialchst.htm
Raymond Ronald Karczewski© -- A Living Christ
w: > The POSSUM RULES
w: > Shit happens but it dose not spontaneously jump up in the fan by its self.
w: > Science is theory but Murphy is law.
Sparrow wrote:
Raymond Karczewski (arkent3@earthlink.net)wrote:
Thu Jan 06, 2005 7:23 am
s: > Since everyone else is chiming in on this, why not.
rk: Why are you so proud of demonstrating your "HIVE MENTALITY?"
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rk: Why have you placed your trust in a book written by dead human beings, yet arbitrarily deny the words spoken and written by a living being?
s: > Because we believe that, the one and only true Christ is Jesus Christ and that he actually lived and walked the earth and that he was crucified, dead and buried and on the third day he arose from the dead and ascended into heaven to sittith at the right hand of God, the Father Almighty, from whence he shall come to judge the quick and the dead. And I could be wrong but, someday you'll be dead too Ray so why are we supposed to believe your words but not the words of the true Christ, Jesus?
s: > And we aren't arbitrarily denying your words we just recognize bullshit when we see it.
rk: Sitteth? Sitteth? Right Hand? Father Almighty, Bullshit? Reread this post. Can you, with a straight face, state that your spiel, along with its attached judgment, is not clearly an identifiable, canned, repetitious, knee jerk, dogmatic Christian mantra?
rk: That is, UNLESS you are saying that your comments are an expression of your direct perception of your own personal resonance/experiences of at-onement with the unmistakable holistic (nondualistic) Truth and not just another Satanic, Intellectual example of rigid, mechanical, re-inforced Christian programming?
rk: Aside from your one-liner comparative judgment displaying your personal divisive judgement of two Christs, two simple men of Truth, neither of whom you can fathom or understand, what indeed have you offered in this post with its "Moment of Truth" opportunity for honest communication which would enable you to reveal and link the content of your own unique spiritual level with that of another?
rk: Do you now understand the the real spirit of the statement "CAST NOT YE PEARLS BEFORE THE SWINE!?" Do you get that it is merely a statement of fact and not a judgment to be taken personally unless a mirrored SATANIC MINION, in a fit of self-judgment, takes it that way. You see, there is also another truism which applies when it comes to identifying the collective hellbound: "If the shoe fits, wear it!!"
rk: In your experience with this "simple man of Truth," in these moments of Truth on the Internet, all those possessed of the Satanically Conditioned Hive Mentality are getting a glimpse of what you/they are in for at the "Last Judgment." Hell, isn't it?
Raymond Ronald Karczewski© -- A Living Christ
Kregener wrote:
Raymond Karczewski (arkent3@earthlink.net) wrote:
Thu Jan 06, 2005 8:56 pm
k: > What was the purpose of posting it here?
rk: The purpose is rather obvious, yet, as the question also reveals, that purpose is lost upon those who prefer to misuse this freedom protection platform/forum on the Internet for the collective mutual castration of the macho-posturing American Male who prefers to engage in idle, petty complaints/go-nowhere talk while they lose their freedom, their country.
rk: My posts have brought before this forum an actual, ongoing, government/media sponsored/supported mind control disinformation operation which has actually touched the consciousness of this group.
rk: I not only told you it was coming. I told you when it was here. I now point out their effectiveness against such posturing children whose heroic patriotic dreams are dashed by the simple spotlighting of their actual level of awareness. Look at the result. It has not awakened anyone on this forum, it has driven them further into their fears which only encourages sandbox play for arrested development infantile children who like to play at being adult.
rk: May I suggest to the forum moderator that he consider posting IP numbers in the headers of all posters. That, at least would be a start in exposing these multipost disinformation agents and answer the dumb question put forth by forum regular 2nd mouse when he says --"oh right... forgeries by the governement moles. posted in forums.... like your post above.... which I dont know if it is a real one or a forgery... how do we tell the difference between a real or a forgery whe we see it?"
rk: Ask yourselves, what can be done for anyone possessed of such a level of consciousness?
rk: His sentiment says it all. Is that the kind of guy you want watching your back when the shooting starts? Hell, isn't it?
rk: By the momentum of disinformation which has grown in exponential proportions, you "god lovin, apple pie eating, TV watchin, beer swillin, couch potato, drug, sex, and entertainment addicted, flag waving folks" don't stand a chance of saving your sovereignty, your freedom or your life.
Raymond Ronald Karczewski©--A Living Christ
